2009-2010 University of Maryland Application Thread

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Entropic said:
Thanks for valuable info Premedchelli and Squall. Does anyone know if people who are accepted/rejected/waitlisted get a phone call, letter, or email?
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looks like acceptances have been getting phone calls and letters in the mail.

anyone hear back lately?
 
So I interviewed back in December (I'm OOS) and I received a letter soon after that said my application was placed on hold. It seems like that happens to a lot of OOS applicants. Does anyone know when or how I might get a status update, or should I just be patient and check the mail?

Thanks!
 
3cheers4snow said:
So I interviewed back in December (I'm OOS) and I received a letter soon after that said my application was placed on hold. It seems like that happens to a lot of OOS applicants. Does anyone know when or how I might get a status update, or should I just be patient and check the mail?

Thanks!
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how soon after?
 
They sent me a hold letter a month after I interviewed. I thought that was pretty soon after considering I interviewed right before the holidays....maybe not?
 
3cheers4snow said:
They sent me a hold letter a month after I interviewed. I thought that was pretty soon after considering I interviewed right before the holidays....maybe not?
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Exact same as me (interview nov. hold in dec)
Is it true that this is common for OOS applicants?
I hope so 🙂 ..When I got the letter I was thinking that they probably would want to give as many spots to deserved Maryland candidates before they started giving spots OOS, especially because its a public school...but that was all speculation and hopeful reasoning...
 
When you [all] say "hold," did your letter say that you were "on hold" or did it say that you were under "very active consideration"? Are these two the same or different?
 
My letter said that my application was on hold but still under very active consideration.
These forums sound like Sex and the City applying to medical school...analyzing every encounter...each word being scrutinized for any hidden meaning.
I will be so happy when it all ends 🙂
 
3cheers4snow said:
My letter said that my application was on hold but still under very active consideration.
These forums sound like Sex and the City applying to medical school...analyzing every encounter...each word being scrutinized for any hidden meaning.
I will be so happy when it all ends 🙂
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LOVE the comparison hahaha.

Although I'd also compare it to LOST because of the intense analysis of every single minute of the process.... much like when you are watching lost and have to keep replaying everything to try and predict what is going to happen next .... but (like this process) its very unpredictable.


either way - do holds find out on May 15 or after the interview results are all done? GOOD LUCK to people on hold, I know the wait is killing you but its ALMOST done! keep your heads up, and if you are already in to a school, don't sweat it too much! 🙂
 
Just checked out the 08-09 thread. I think they send out letters to people who are on hold around May 15th, and it tells you if you're in the top-half or bottom-half of the waitlist. Dr. Foxwell calls people who are accepted. That's what happened last year at least. There were something like 130 people on the waitlist and 20-30 got in. I'm not sure if anyone was accepted directly out of the hold.
 
Received financial award letter today.. , i was excited to see the amount i received in grants! quite a surprise.
 
Hey guys,

This morning I received an email called "2010-2011 UMB New Student Message" regarding general financial aid information for new students. Is this an automatic message for everyone who interviewed and filled out the FAFSA?

I interviewed in mid March and have yet to hear back from the school regarding their decision.
 
poorman said:
Hey guys,

This morning I received an email called "2010-2011 UMB New Student Message" regarding general financial aid information for new students. Is this an automatic message for everyone who interviewed and filled out the FAFSA?

I interviewed in mid March and have yet to hear back from the school regarding their decision.
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you might have to turn in your SS# or other stuff to them before they can move on.
 
VOP said:
you might have to turn in your SS# or other stuff to them before they can move on.
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The email wasn't asking for anything. It even said not to respond to it. It contained links to general financial aid info and a newsletter.

It seems like just a general letter that would be sent to all people who completed the FAFSA stuff, and I normally wouldn't think much of it, but the phrase "new student" and such throws me a little bit. It also says that the staff at the fin. aid office "wishes me a successful academic year at UMB." It's obviously a blanket email, though (not personalized at all for me specifically).
 
poorman said:
The email wasn't asking for anything. It even said not to respond to it. It contained links to general financial aid info and a newsletter.

It seems like just a general letter that would be sent to all people who completed the FAFSA stuff, and I normally wouldn't think much of it, but the phrase "new student" and such throws me a little bit. It also says that the staff at the fin. aid office "wishes me a successful academic year at UMB." It's obviously a blanket email, though (not personalized at all for me specifically).
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Hey poorman,

I haven't received any emails from them about financial packages and I did submit my FAFSA on time. This is really weird..
 
To follow up on my previous question, I just got my acceptance letter in the mail today. I didn't receive a call from Dr. Foxwell, though. Maybe it has something to do with me being OOS?

The moral of the story is that the financial aid office is on top of things, apparently--I got the fin. aid email before I even knew I was in :laugh:
 
poorman said:
To follow up on my previous question, I just got my acceptance letter in the mail today. I didn't receive a call from Dr. Foxwell, though. Maybe it has something to do with me being OOS?

The moral of the story is that the financial aid office is on top of things, apparently--I got the fin. aid email before I even knew I was in :laugh:
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Congrats dude
 
What happened to those on hold last year? And does that put you on the end of the waitlist if you are waitlisted cuz they couldn't decide till later?

jussst wondering.
 
premedchelli said:
What happened to those on hold last year? And does that put you on the end of the waitlist if you are waitlisted cuz they couldn't decide till later?

jussst wondering.
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Last year people on old were told their wait list status around May 15th via a letter from Dr. Foxwell. I'm not sure what you mean by the bottom of the waitlist, everyone on the waitlist is there because they couldn't decide till later lol ...in the case of UMaryland, hold pretty much = waitlist from what I gather.
 
joshg said:
Last year people on hold were told their wait list status around May 15th via a letter from Dr. Foxwell. I'm not sure what you mean by the bottom of the waitlist, everyone on the waitlist is there because they couldn't decide till later lol ...in the case of UMaryland, hold pretty much = waitlist from what I gather.
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ok so heres what i mean by bottom of the waitlist.

Lets say John Doe gets on the waitlist in September and Jane Doe gets a hold notice. Then on May 15th Jane is notified that she is waitlisted. I figured Jane would be lower than John cuz she was notified later. So thats what I was thinking.

Dunno how the situation of waitlisting works with UMD though so thats pretty much what I'm asking - if you are on hold and THEN waitlisted does that mean you are lower in the waitlist cuz you are notified of being waitlisted later?

But you (joshg) just said they tell you where you are in the waitlist in May so I'm :xf::xf:hoping :xf::xf:that ppl on hold still have a chance of being in the top portion of the waitlist

can anyone verify any of this?
 
premedchelli said:
ok so heres what i mean by bottom of the waitlist.

Lets say John Doe gets on the waitlist in September and Jane Doe gets a hold notice. Then on May 15th Jane is notified that she is waitlisted. I figured Jane would be lower than John cuz she was notified later. So thats what I was thinking.

Dunno how the situation of waitlisting works with UMD though so thats pretty much what I'm asking - if you are on hold and THEN waitlisted does that mean you are lower in the waitlist cuz you are notified of being waitlisted later?

But you (joshg) just said they tell you where you are in the waitlist in May so I'm :xf::xf:hoping :xf::xf:that ppl on hold still have a chance of being in the top portion of the waitlist

can anyone verify any of this?
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No one is waitlisted straight out I've looked into that. It's either accept, reject, or hold. And I don't think I've heard of anyone getting rejected actually but I'm sure it happens.

Best of luck to you 🙂 Hopefully we're both in the top half! That's what they tell you around May 15th, top or bottom half. If you're in the top half you have about a 1/3 chance of coming off of the waitlist. I think.
 
premedchelli said:
ok so heres what i mean by bottom of the waitlist.

Lets say John Doe gets on the waitlist in September and Jane Doe gets a hold notice. Then on May 15th Jane is notified that she is waitlisted. I figured Jane would be lower than John cuz she was notified later. So thats what I was thinking.

Dunno how the situation of waitlisting works with UMD though so thats pretty much what I'm asking - if you are on hold and THEN waitlisted does that mean you are lower in the waitlist cuz you are notified of being waitlisted later?

But you (joshg) just said they tell you where you are in the waitlist in May so I'm :xf::xf:hoping :xf::xf:that ppl on hold still have a chance of being in the top portion of the waitlist

can anyone verify any of this?
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No one who interviewed at Maryland has been placed on the waitlist yet. Everyone who's interviewed has either been accepted or placed on hold (I'm 99% sure no one gets rejected post interview unless they were really REALLY bad). But people on hold generally get rereviewed after the interview season is over (so around now) and since the class is usually full at this time they are all placed on the waitlist (though I have heard of a few getting accepted after being placed on post interview hold but they were the minority). I have heard that waitlist at maryland is prioritized by GPA and MCAT but I think I just read that on a thread on sdn so I really don't know for sure.

So to summarize the waitlist has not been made yet.
 
PsxDcSquall said:
No one who interviewed at Maryland has been placed on the waitlist yet. Everyone who's interviewed has either been accepted or placed on hold (I'm 99% sure no one gets rejected post interview unless they were really REALLY bad). But people on hold generally get rereviewed after the interview season is over (so around now) and since the class is usually full at this time they are all placed on the waitlist (though I have heard of a few getting accepted after being placed on post interview hold but they were the minority). I have heard that waitlist at maryland is prioritized by GPA and MCAT but I think I just read that on a thread on sdn so I really don't know for sure.

So to summarize the waitlist has not been made yet.
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so this WHOLE time i thought there was a waitlist already and holds were a back up waitlist lol. ok this makes me feel slightly better...

yes joshg, I am keeping my fingers crossed that we all eventually get in.
 
still awaiting verification about my waitlist question - does UMD rank according to GPA and MCAT?

thankss
 
premedchelli said:
still awaiting verification about my waitlist question - does UMD rank according to GPA and MCAT?

thankss
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First of all, I do not have a factual answer to your question (which obviously is of no help). Secondly, I don't think anyone outside of the admissions committee knows the answer either so you are not likely to get a definitive answer on this board. Given that aspect, I thought about it logically and came up with the following.

1. Case against ranking according to GPA and MCAT - these are only two aspects of an application and doesn't consider the interview at all (a very important component). Why would those of us on the waitlist only be ranked in this manner? Additionally, I have heard of other schools placing a ranking based on an "interview score." I'm not sure this is much better, but it brings me to number 2 below.

2. Case for ranking according to GPA and MCAT - there are so many factors that you eventually have to find an efficient way to truly rank the candidates, which this would accomplish. This would not be the best way to rank candidates (due to all other factors), but at some point a ranking must be done and a way to do so is necessary. I have interviewed candidates for positions during my career and we do eventually create a way to rank those for positions, but the interview was always the most important aspect to us.

My overall guess would be that the GPA and MCAT probably play a role, but that the interview itself may be more important since we were all qualified enough to get an interview. Like I said, I have no idea, but felt detailing my thought process may be helpful to you. Regardless of how it is ranked, it truly doesn't matter at this point as I don't think there is anything we can do (there is no changing GPA and MCAT or your interview at this point). I know this is frustrating (myself included), but I guess we simply have to continue to wait. One more month (very short in the scheme of things) and we will have our answer.

Hope this helps!
 
Hi -

I'm an accepted OOS student (interview 3/26, acceptance letter 4/10, no phone call) - I was wondering if there is anywhere I can find the daily schedule for first/second year students. I know for some schools I've found daily class schedules online, but I can't find it anywhere for UMD.

Also does anyone know if I can claim residency during my second year and how to do so? Do most of the OOS students end up claiming residency? Even though I live in Baltimore for school, I'm a dependent, and don't pay taxes here. I'd like to save $60,000 if I can!

As for Baltimore, even though I'm OOS I graduated and currently live near a Baltimore college. Baltimore is dangerous, to be honest, I wouldn't live across MLK, if you live right around campus I wouldn't be worried about violent crime as much as car break ins, petty crimes (I got my car broken into in an apartment garage in Roland Park which is an extremely safe neighborhood in Bmore). I'm looking more into federal hill, because I don't mind being a few miles away, and I like the neighborhood.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
I'm looking for the exact same thing. The ABCD grading scale doesn't sound fun but perhaps it can be made up for with a decent schedule?
 
My thoughts on the ABCDF grading scale is this - when I heard this on the interview day I was completely turned off. But when you think about it, I have an acceptance at a H/HP/P/LP/F school which is essentially the same. Also, it seems that there is no curve at MD, whereas at many of the H/HP/P/LP/F schools, or at least what I know of, there is a grading scale that, for example, says only 10% get honors. I think thats worse. The students at the interview seemed fine with it - but does anyone know how they really feel? Also at any true P/F schools (which is not an option for me as far as I know right, and there are very few of them) the students were telling me the most important thing to them is P/F and if they could give us one piece of advice it would be to go to a P/F school.

As far as the daily schedule goes - we were told at interview that there are only lectures in the morning, one afternoon there is a lab, and four afternoons off. However, we were never told what exactly constitutes the morning - 9-12 or 8-2 is very different.
 
I have some friends that go there, and some say they are done usually by noon and have the rest of the day to study/relax/etc
 
Here is a document that covers FAQ's about changing state residency in Maryland (every state is different).

http://www.umaryland.edu/orr/images/residency frequently asked questions.doc

Regarding class schedules. The school of medicine booklet I got on interview day says "The freshman and sophomore years are characterized by two hours of lecture per day, and two hours of small group or laboratory per day." This is what I remember them saying during the interview as well. I think lecture/labs run from 8-12, and then you have the afternoon free except for 1 day a week of Intro to Clinical Medicine (correct me if I'm wrong).

Hope that helped (and hope it is accurate!)
 
smz813 said:
My thoughts on the ABCDF grading scale is this - when I heard this on the interview day I was completely turned off. But when you think about it, I have an acceptance at a H/HP/P/LP/F school which is essentially the same. Also, it seems that there is no curve at MD, whereas at many of the H/HP/P/LP/F schools, or at least what I know of, there is a grading scale that, for example, says only 10% get honors. I think thats worse. The students at the interview seemed fine with it - but does anyone know how they really feel? Also at any true P/F schools (which is not an option for me as far as I know right, and there are very few of them) the students were telling me the most important thing to them is P/F and if they could give us one piece of advice it would be to go to a P/F school.

As far as the daily schedule goes - we were told at interview that there are only lectures in the morning, one afternoon there is a lab, and four afternoons off. However, we were never told what exactly constitutes the morning - 9-12 or 8-2 is very different.
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A typical day is 8-12. One day a week they have something called ICM (introduction to clinical medicine) which eats up a few hours in the afternoon but still 4 days a week being done at 12 is pretty nice.
 
Thanks for the info peeps, good to know I'm not the only one considering these things. Hopefully a student there will see these posts sometime soon and post something official.

On to the next question, relative to other schools what do we all know about the clinical experience in the first two years? I've read a little about the Intro to Medicine but that seems more about how to be a doctor than any actual clinical experience..
 
Ok, some answers:

No one outside the admissions committee knows exactly how the waitlist is constructed but obviously its ranked - otherwise how would they determine who to call when a spot opens up? The number of people taken off the waitlist varies year-to-year. I think there were quite a few last year (I've heard up to 30?) but the couple of years before that it was fewer, maybe ten or less.

Class schedule during MSI&II: 8-12 with ICM one afternoon a week, as stated. During MSI, your lectures will be 8-10 with lab or small group 10-12. During MSII this switches and you have small group 8-10 and lecture 10-12. All the lectures are recorded as .AVI files (as well as .mp3 if you wanted an audio only file) and uploaded to Medscope right after lecture - most lectures are not mandatory attendance but the same is not true for small groups. I hesitate to use the word "free" to describe time outside of formal class time. Rather, I stress that Maryland's model is to provide you with multiple types of learning resources and you are given the freedom to choose which modalities work best for you outside of your formal class time requirements.

There are occasionally other activities/responsibilities in the afternoon but these are pretty infrequent during MSI. They increase during MSII but your schedule will still mostly be the 8-12 with ICM once a week.

ICM: Dependent on who your ICM preceptor is but expect that this will be a 1pm-5pm time commitment. During MSI you will focus on learning to take a proper, thorough history. During MSII you will focus on learning to do both full and focused physical exam.

Grading: The stated information regarding no curve and the fact that there is no difference between a letter grading system and the H/HP/P/LP/F system is correct. You're not competing with anyone except yourself during MSI & II. As such, I think how you feel about the letter grading system entirely depends on how you deal with stress and pressure. Many people entering medical school have received few grades below an A in their life but the fact of the matter is that here the average exam score for almost every exam as well as every final course grade during MSI&II is in the B range. Its going to be a paradigm shift getting used to the fact that for most of you Bs will become the norm. If you qualify for Honors in a block based on grade, some blocks will require an extra project to get the Honors, some will not, its entirely dependent on the course director. Additionally, your performance will measured against that of your classmates at ANY school you go to. When you apply for residency, the Dean's letter for almost every school, no matter if its P/F, H/HP/P/LP/F, or A/B/C/D/F, will contain histograms of your academic performance compared with your class. Do not think for a second that just because a school is P/F that you won't be compared against your classmates in this fashion - in fact, if this information is not included in your Dean's letter, many residency program directors find it difficult to determine where a candidate stands in relation to other candidates and there is the potential that it could work against you. Look at the General Residency and sub-specialty forums on SDN - there are some residency program directors who post and you can do a simple search to find this information. AProgDirector is such user. You can't ask MSI and MSII students for this information because most of them haven't even thought about the Dean's letter or residency applications let alone know what is contained therein. Even an MSIII probably won't have that much good info. Only the MSIVs at a school who have started, are going through, or have gone through the residency application process can give you reliable information about what is contained in the Dean's Letter and how that school handles the information gained through their grading system. IMHO, the danger of P/F is that is can lull you into the belief that you won't be compared against your contemporaries but in reality this information starts being recorded the day you walk into medical school and will continue in residency and beyond. Start getting used to the idea now.

In-state status: Very difficult but not impossible to get. Most of the people I know who were able to do it did so by purchasing a house or condo and had spouses. The link provided by another poster is a good one. You should absolutely try to get in-state status if you think you have a shot at it but you should definitely not come here expecting it will happen. Almost everyone that is OOS stays OOS.

"Clinical Experience During MSI & II:" By far my least favorite phrase to exit the mouth of any pre-med but I had the same questions before I was on the other side of the coin. dmexs, I'm curious what kind of clinical experience you are looking for if you do not consider "learning to be a doctor" via ICM actual clinical experience? What do you think you'd be able to do for clinical experience if you haven't even learned the basics of taking a history and physical? You need to learn the language of medicine before you can seriously participate in the clinical aspects of medicine. You'll have patient interaction weekly through ICM. During orientation, they send the new MSIs into the hospital to hang out with a patient care team for a few hours. Its always enlightening for all parties involved. Unless you have prior experience working in healthcare (which the majority of new medical students do not) you'll quickly realize you have difficulty following simple conversations about patients during rounds. For the MSIIIs and MSIVs, its always amazing to see the evidence of how big the learning curve is because we all remember that orientation activity and how bewildering it felt, which lies in start contrast to your comfort level and ability to speak the language which develops in part during MSI&II but mostly during MSIII and MSIV. There's peds pals as an extra-curricular where you go play with the kids on the peds floor a couple hours a week but I wouldn't consider that "clinical experience" because you are there as a diversion from their hospitalization rather than a member of the team taking care of them.
 
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wow didn't expect so many posts in the past day, regarding my question about w/l (which was all they up there lol )

thanks for all those who responded 🙂

and I wouldn't worry about the grading scale, med schools everywhere are competitive, they have to be able to compare you to your peers somehow. its all relative (in my opinion).
 
Wow LucidSplash, thanks for the wealth of information, just what I was looking for.

As far as the schedule goes, I'm guessing your 8-12 days are MWF but what happens on Tuesday and Thursday? Like most other PBL schools you do about 2 cases per week in small group and have a faculty proctor?

For those interested in the schedule like me I found the following through MedScope:
http://medweb1.umaryland.edu/medscope.net/schedule.aspx?1
http://medscope.umaryland.edu/main/schedules/10-11ms1_calendar.html

For the clinical experience, admittedly it's just a question I've heard I should ask of any school I'm considering. Aside from patient histories and basic clinical skills some of my other favorite schools had a type of shadowing experience where students get to sample various specialties?
 
dmexs said:
Wow LucidSplash, thanks for the wealth of information, just what I was looking for.

As far as the schedule goes, I'm guessing your 8-12 days are MWF but what happens on Tuesday and Thursday? Like most other PBL schools you do about 2 cases per week in small group and have a faculty proctor?
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Uh, no. This is your M-F schedule. Maryland is not a PBL school. Small groups will almost always augment the lecture material, not replace it. Small groups are not uniformly formatted - it will depend on the academic block (class) and the section. Sometimes it will be questions, sometimes clinical correlates, sometimes presentations, sometimes lab, occasionally cases. The persons leading the small groups will also vary - sometimes academic (non-clinical) faculty, sometimes clinical faculty, frequently residents/fellows (especially in 2nd year).

dmexs said:
For those interested in the schedule like me I found the following through MedScope:
http://medweb1.umaryland.edu/medscope.net/schedule.aspx?1
http://medscope.umaryland.edu/main/schedules/10-11ms1_calendar.html

For the clinical experience, admittedly it's just a question I've heard I should ask of any school I'm considering. Aside from patient histories and basic clinical skills some of my other favorite schools had a type of shadowing experience where students get to sample various specialties?
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I know all pre-meds are told to ask this question and I certainly did when applying. What I'm saying is IMHO it is a stupid question. IMHO, beyond learning to do a proper H&P, "Clinical Experience" during MSI&II is largely meaningless and a waste of time. Its a buzz phrase that all pre-meds ask about and thus all medical schools have some sort of answer for it. But really, until you've learned the basic language of medicine and physiology, its a dog and pony show with preceptors as the ringmaster and patients as the "attractions." Again, this is all strictly my opinion. Not to mention, all these "clinical experiences" are generally only with primary care which is a pretty limited view of medicine.

OSA can set you up with a mentor if you want one and you have a specialty in mind - then you can meet with your mentor every so often and spend some time in the hospital with them if that's what you want. There's no formal shadowing experiences to sample the various specialties - but you can set that up on your own if you just show interest. Some of my classmates did that I think. But IMHO, this is only really useful in the specialties you do not experience 3rd year because its almost impossible to get a real idea of how you'd enjoy a specialty until you've spent time actually "doing it" - insomuch as you can as an MSIII. Otherwise, the core 3rd year rotations - Surgery, Internal Medicine, OB/Gyn, Peds, Neurology, Family Medicine, Psychiatry - are your best bet for "sampling" those specialties (and their associated sub-specialties).
 
I know that UMD requires that you purchase their own computer. Does anyone know what type of computer it is?
 
I recall that the financial aid lady mentioned the laptop being a Lenovo Thinkpad, but I'm not sure which exact model is required.
 
Daisy184 said:
I know that UMD requires that you purchase their own computer. Does anyone know what type of computer it is?
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You purchase the laptops through the school, money gets taken out of your loan, grant...
it's in their website
 
I thought they said IBM... or maybe thats what people had in years past?
 
LucidSplash said:
Uh, no. This is your M-F schedule. Maryland is not a PBL school. Small groups will almost always augment the lecture material, not replace it. Small groups are not uniformly formatted - it will depend on the academic block (class) and the section. Sometimes it will be questions, sometimes clinical correlates, sometimes presentations, sometimes lab, occasionally cases. The persons leading the small groups will also vary - sometimes academic (non-clinical) faculty, sometimes clinical faculty, frequently residents/fellows (especially in 2nd year).



I know all pre-meds are told to ask this question and I certainly did when applying. What I'm saying is IMHO it is a stupid question. IMHO, beyond learning to do a proper H&P, "Clinical Experience" during MSI&II is largely meaningless and a waste of time. Its a buzz phrase that all pre-meds ask about and thus all medical schools have some sort of answer for it. But really, until you've learned the basic language of medicine and physiology, its a dog and pony show with preceptors as the ringmaster and patients as the "attractions." Again, this is all strictly my opinion. Not to mention, all these "clinical experiences" are generally only with primary care which is a pretty limited view of medicine.

OSA can set you up with a mentor if you want one and you have a specialty in mind - then you can meet with your mentor every so often and spend some time in the hospital with them if that's what you want. There's no formal shadowing experiences to sample the various specialties - but you can set that up on your own if you just show interest. Some of my classmates did that I think. But IMHO, this is only really useful in the specialties you do not experience 3rd year because its almost impossible to get a real idea of how you'd enjoy a specialty until you've spent time actually "doing it" - insomuch as you can as an MSIII. Otherwise, the core 3rd year rotations - Surgery, Internal Medicine, OB/Gyn, Peds, Neurology, Family Medicine, Psychiatry - are your best bet for "sampling" those specialties (and their associated sub-specialties).
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would you recommend not shadowing any doctors then? or do residencies still look for that kinda stuff?
 
VOP said:
would you recommend not shadowing any doctors then? or do residencies still look for that kinda stuff?
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I would say that, at Maryland, unless you are interested in doing residency in something outside one of the core 3rd-year clerkships, there is little use in "shadowing" once you're in medical school. Residency programs care about your grades, your USMLE scores, your clinical evaluations, your letters of recommendation, sometimes research, your extra-curriculars (but not nearly as important as when you're applying for medical school) and your personal statement (some read it some don't).

"Shadowing" becomes an outmoded term as soon as you start MSIII. Possibly as early as when you start MSI and have your structured ICM time.
 
Wow, this thread kinda makes me feel like a real piece of **** for getting outright rejected post-interview.

It's strange because I though that both of my interviews went very well. Although, I do think that maybe I rubbed Dr. Foxwell the wrong way during a brief discussion that we had at the end of the interview day.

I was OOS, but still a very competitive applicant in other respects. Currently hold multiple acceptances, so I couldn't have been that much of an ******* while I was there...

But hey, c'est la vie. Good Luck guys; I really liked it there.
 
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