2009-2010 University of Oklahoma Application Thread

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medapplicant88 said:
well it sounds right because the economy might have pinched the med school funds. Since the state funds the medical school essentially covering a huge portion of instate tuitions I'm sure that the state might have asked for some cuts from the medical school because there's like a huge budget crisis for the state. Their cutting pretty basic things just from public schools like teaching children spanish in Middle School (At least their strongly considering it).
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There will be the same number of seats. The number of seats they would have to cut for it to make a significant difference in their budget would not be worth it. They would cut down in other areas before they cut seats. Although the state subsidizes in-state tuition, tuition is still a source of revenue for the school. They would trim non-revenue generating expenditures, like overhead, first. IMO anyway.
 
just one said:
Absolutely not. The class size is set and funds will not change the seats offered this year. Actually the state has authorized an increase to around 200. It was in a Tulsa world article last year.

An associate professor for OU (surgeon) I talked to last week was telling me that funds from tuition and the state is around half of the budget.
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I think I misunderstood the process. I thought they would offer more spots and take into account that approximately X number of people would choose a different place.

I actually based this on the fact that a princeton review book 2010 said like over 200 offers were given. So I guess what that # really represents are offers including when a waitlisted person is offered.

So they only have approximately 160 official spots and if some of those 160 decide to go somewhere else than they'll start offering more spots.

However during the intro in the interview day I thought Dr. Baker said they would offer more than 160 spots initially but maybe I misheard.
 
This year it is supposed to be 165. In previous years it ranged from 160-170
 
I heard that there was 43 slots that needed to be filled. My source is the spouse of one of the interviewers. She said that at the meeting on that sunday, students that were in limbo (deffered) were assigned numbers (as not to allow any bias to be included in the decision making and that they then re-evaluated the students based on scores, GPA, interview performance and then the students were listed from 1 to 43 and that everybody else that wasnt on the accepted list was then ranked on the waitlist. hopes this helps😳
 
medapplicant88 said:
well it sounds right because the economy might have pinched the med school funds. Since the state funds the medical school essentially covering a huge portion of instate tuitions I'm sure that the state might have asked for some cuts from the medical school because there's like a huge budget crisis for the state. Their cutting pretty basic things just from public schools like teaching children spanish in Middle School (At least their strongly considering it).
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dude, you need to get over your obsession with cuts in the class b/c of the economy. It doesnt work like that. The number of seats accepted into each years class is pretty standard and doesnt change depending on funding. Also I guess you dont know that OU Medicine is pretty huge in the state of Oklahoma and the state will pull funding out of somewhere to keep them producing physicians for the state.
 
Well, we will find out in a couple of days
 
bellakk said:
dude, you need to get over your obsession with cuts in the class b/c of the economy. It doesnt work like that. The number of seats accepted into each years class is pretty standard and doesnt change depending on funding. Also I guess you dont know that OU Medicine is pretty huge in the state of Oklahoma and the state will pull funding out of somewhere to keep them producing physicians for the state.
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your right

I'm just disappointed that only like 40 seats are available to over 180 people.
 
iambatman872003 said:
I heard that there was 43 slots that needed to be filled. My source is the spouse of one of the interviewers. She said that at the meeting on that sunday, students that were in limbo (deffered) were assigned numbers (as not to allow any bias to be included in the decision making and that they then re-evaluated the students based on scores, GPA, interview performance and then the students were listed from 1 to 43 and that everybody else that wasnt on the accepted list was then ranked on the waitlist. hopes this helps😳
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thanks for that information and


I don't mean to pry however if you can answer do you know how many people were deferred to begin with by chance
 
At my interview in early Feb, they told me that letters would be going out on March 2nd, which is today. The last few times I applied and interviewed, it seemed like only 20 or so seats were actually available and the rest would have to be waitlisted or rejected. This time I've heard it's 45-ish seats, which is a huge improvement. I was waitlisted last year, but I have no idea if that helps or hinders my current status with them.
 
Phange said:
At my interview in early Feb, they told me that letters would be going out on March 2nd, which is today. The last few times I applied and interviewed, it seemed like only 20 or so seats were actually available and the rest would have to be waitlisted or rejected. This time I've heard it's 45-ish seats, which is a huge improvement. I was waitlisted last year, but I have no idea if that helps or hinders my current status with them.
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Yeah there's been a debate on this thread earlier about whether this is a benefit or not. I think it is. Because in past years they gave away 140 seats to the October November and few January interview leaving 20 spots for the remaining 160 (approximate) interviewed.

And now it's doubled of course that means about 180 are deferred so the percentage is higher but still its tough odds. I think the that means they get to choose people who have 3.8 and 30 or higher (OU averages MSAR) from this deferred list.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only person going crazy by this process
 
I can speak from experience. Last year I was waitlisted and, from what they told me, about 60-ish people were on the wait list and about 40 were taken off the waitlist. Of course, that didn't exactly make me feel rosy about my status with them. If there are 180 people deferred, with 40 taken as acceptances, that leaves 140 people vying for 60 wait list spots and 40-ish potential accepts.

Not great odds. Wish I knew if OU placed any kind of priority on previously-waitlisted applicants.
 
just one said:
I'm glad I'm not the only person going crazy by this process
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I definitely want to apologize I've realized I've saturated the last couple of pages with comments drawing straws that the impact of the economy to trying to estimate postal delivery.

I've analyzed this to a real obsession. Hopefully the results come tomorrow.
 
Phange said:
I can speak from experience. Last year I was waitlisted and, from what they told me, about 60-ish people were on the wait list and about 40 were taken off the waitlist. Of course, that didn't exactly make me feel rosy about my status with them. If there are 180 people deferred, with 40 taken as acceptances, that leaves 140 people vying for 60 wait list spots and 40-ish potential accepts.

Not great odds. Wish I knew if OU placed any kind of priority on previously-waitlisted applicants.
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Did you retake the MCAT before applying this year?
 
I know the pain. Every day I updated my waitlist estimate sheet last year. As the numbers grew more and more against me, the less I wanted to deal with it... but obsession is obsession and it drives you in good times and bad. I'm pretty optimistic about my chances this time, but I don't think I could handle another half-year on a wait list. I'd rather see the Big Red Envelope and enjoy the feeling that others before me have experienced.
 
medapplicant88 said:
Did you retake the MCAT before applying this year?
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No, but my MCAT was a 30. That said, I have nearly finished my MPH with a high GPA and I got a TON of healthcare-related work and volunteer experience. I feel like my application as a whole was much stronger this time than last time, especially since I'm in my last semester of my MPH and all my letters of Rec actually came from respected professors at OUHSC.
 
Phange said:
No, but my MCAT was a 30. That said, I have nearly finished my MPH with a high GPA and I got a TON of healthcare-related work and volunteer experience. I feel like my application as a whole was much stronger this time than last time, especially since I'm in my last semester of my MPH and all my letters of Rec actually came from respected professors at OUHSC.
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If your MCAT was so high what hurt your application last year?
 
medapplicant88 said:
If your MCAT was so high what hurt your application last year?
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Almost certainly my undergraduate GPA. I also am pretty certain that only being halfway through a Master's (like I was last year) would be a red flag to interviewers that you have a committment in another graduate-level field that needs to be finished or addressed.

This time I was able to show my performance in my MPH curriculum and explain how I believe it'll be of value to the College of Medicine. I'm hoping that it actually matters to them, but either way I don't regret getting my MPH as I've learned a wealth of information as well as developed a better understanding of Public Health and especially the tools necessary to promote wellness.
 
just one said:
I'm glad I'm not the only person going crazy by this process
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you are definitely not alone. if this process doesn't make you at least a little crazy, you don't deserve a spot...
 
Phange said:
Almost certainly my undergraduate GPA. I also am pretty certain that only being halfway through a Master's (like I was last year) would be a red flag to interviewers that you have a committment in another graduate-level field that needs to be finished or addressed.

This time I was able to show my performance in my MPH curriculum and explain how I believe it'll be of value to the College of Medicine. I'm hoping that it actually matters to them, but either way I don't regret getting my MPH as I've learned a wealth of information as well as developed a better understanding of Public Health and especially the tools necessary to promote wellness.
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It's so tough to get in. I've actually taken the MCAT three times. tried to bring my GPA up which I've found is tremendously difficult.

I wish I could do things differently. Hopefully a lot of people go elsewhere lol. however OU offers a generous tuition which is hard to turn down especially when you have to think about out of state fees.
 
medapplicant88 said:
It's so tough to get in. I've actually taken the MCAT three times. tried to bring my GPA up which I've found is tremendously difficult.

I wish I could do things differently. Hopefully a lot of people go elsewhere lol. however OU offers a generous tuition which is hard to turn down especially when you have to think about out of state fees.
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It is really tough. And, as they tell you in the workshops, they don't look for the positives in your application, they look for the negatives. Positives are assumed to be there; everyone has them and they're expected. Negatives are the real point of separation between good applicants and average ones. There's nothing I can to do improve my undergraduate GPA. Despite making a 3.8+ in my Master's, it's never going to change how I performed in undergraduate studies.

Maybe I'm stubborn, but this is my fourth application to OU. I interviewed all four times. First two resulted in rejections, third resulted in a waitlist, and I'm about to find out the fourth. If nothing else, I've proven to them that I don't give up. I do everything they ask me to do, as far as application improvement goes. I suppose by eliminating the "human element" from their acceptance process it greatly hurts my chances, but I'll let you know when the mail comes later this week!
 
Phange said:
It is really tough. And, as they tell you in the workshops, they don't look for the positives in your application, they look for the negatives. Positives are assumed to be there; everyone has them and they're expected. Negatives are the real point of separation between good applicants and average ones. There's nothing I can to do improve my undergraduate GPA. Despite making a 3.8+ in my Master's, it's never going to change how I performed in undergraduate studies.

Maybe I'm stubborn, but this is my fourth application to OU. I interviewed all four times. First two resulted in rejections, third resulted in a waitlist, and I'm about to find out the fourth. If nothing else, I've proven to them that I don't give up. I do everything they ask me to do, as far as application improvement goes. I suppose by eliminating the "human element" from their acceptance process it greatly hurts my chances, but I'll let you know when the mail comes later this week!
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Did you just try OU or any other medical schools?
 
medapplicant88 said:
Did you just try OU or any other medical schools?
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The past three times I only tried OU. Given that I want to go into preventive primary care, I decided that Oklahoma State offered a program that might fit me as well, so I applied to them. They were extremely friendly and their offer for an interview was within a week after I finished my application. I have to admit their sincerity and respect for applicants is second-to-none, and I was very impressed with the entire program. The DO mentality is really forward-thinking as far as prevention and wellness go.
 
Phange said:
The past three times I only tried OU. Given that I want to go into preventive primary care, I decided that Oklahoma State offered a program that might fit me as well, so I applied to them. They were extremely friendly and their offer for an interview was within a week after I finished my application. I have to admit their sincerity and respect for applicants is second-to-none, and I was very impressed with the entire program. The DO mentality is really forward-thinking as far as prevention and wellness go.
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Did you get in?
 
does anyone know if the groups of derferred students are different whether you are in-state or oos?
 
wilso3 said:
does anyone know if the groups of derferred students are different whether you are in-state or oos?
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Not sure however it seems like someone earlier described the process on this thread. i think they rank all the deferred like 1,2,3,4 and the top 40 get accepted.
 
medapplicant88 said:
Not sure however it seems like someone earlier described the process on this thread. i think they rank all the deferred like 1,2,3,4 and the top 40 get accepted.
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Just wondering since I know they limit their oos interviews so greatly
 
Well, today's the day for most of us in Oklahoma. Good luck to all of you, and hope that your mailbox is filled with red instead of white!
 
Mine usually shows between 11:30 and 1:30
 
No, I think this cruel and evil setup is gonna make me wait another day. Still doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting at home waiting
 
just one said:
No, I think this cruel and evil setup is gonna make me wait another day. Still doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting at home waiting
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Emory didn't mind sending me a rejection by email lol a couple days ago. I don't even know why I applied there.

I wouldn't mind a letter by email. It's so quick. Just one word Accepted, Rejected, or Waitlist.
 
I think with technology, email or website login followed by mail would be great
 
wilso3 said:
Yes im out of state, and Oklahoma is my top choice
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Just curious, what state are you from and why is OU your top? For me it's top due to location and family. But I only applied to two schools
 
just one said:
I think with technology, email or website login followed by mail would be great
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I'm actually 50 miles away from my mailbox. I actually commute from Edmond so I would love to just go home and wait FOR* the mailman but imagine the box being void of a letter and missing classes and doing the same thing tomorrow.

I'm actually hoping somebody checks their mailbox and posts their good news here so I'd actually know there's a possibility of mail.

What I'm afraid of is if the OUHSC has the same system that the Norman campus does in which they have like a mailing center where things get "processed" and then finally it gets to the post office which means that it would take two days rather than one or maybe even longer.
 
OU used to send you a letter if you were rejected within two weeks of your interview. I kinda miss that. I think OU takes some kind of pride in the "classic" style of receiving information via mail; this is true even for undergraduate. I can't say it's fun all the time, but I do get a rush from looking in the mailbox.
 
just one said:
Just curious, what state are you from and why is OU your top? For me it's top due to location and family. But I only applied to two schools
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I'm from Oklahoma, and I honestly don't have a top choice. I'd go to whatever school takes me and if I did have choices I would strongly consider OU because of finances, familiarity with the state, and it's not a bad school.

My family is actually thinking about moving from Oklahoma. However its just early preliminary thinking. Both my parents are immigrants and so we have no family in the United States. the UK, India, South Africa are the main areas of family. So If i got into Oklahoma I'd be happy.
 
Phange said:
OU used to send you a letter if you were rejected within two weeks of your interview. I kinda miss that. I think OU takes some kind of pride in the "classic" style of receiving information via mail; this is true even for undergraduate. I can't say it's fun all the time, but I do get a rush from looking in the mailbox.
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These last couple months, they've flown by despite a long time, and now these last couple days felt like the Earth has come to a standstill personally.
 
medapplicant88 said:
These last couple months, they've flown by despite a long time, and now these last couple days felt like the Earth has come to a standstill personally.
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Yeah, I know the feeling. This is my fourth time. I'm hoping today is a literal "red letter day" because I desperately don't want to be waitlisted again. Now THAT was brutal.
 
Phange said:
Yeah, I know the feeling. This is my fourth time. I'm hoping today is a literal "red letter day" because I desperately don't want to be waitlisted again. Now THAT was brutal.
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I can only imagine what waitlisting would feel like. That's like OU letter day except you'd be checking the mail every day lol.
 
medapplicant88 said:
Did they note your perserverence in the interview?
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They did, but I don't know how much it actually helps. It seems like they go to great lengths to eliminate the "human element" from the decision-making process. Which is a shame, because anyone who gets to interview four times and who was waitlisted the last time should probably get at least a courtesy nod. At least, that's my two cents :laugh::meanie:
 
Phange said:
They did, but I don't know how much it actually helps. It seems like they go to great lengths to eliminate the "human element" from the decision-making process. Which is a shame, because anyone who gets to interview four times and who was waitlisted the last time should probably get at least a courtesy nod. At least, that's my two cents :laugh::meanie:
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How do they remove the human element? They look at the files don't they February 21st?
 
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