2010-2011 University of Alabama Thread

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Hang in there guys, it could be another month.... or two. I would be really shocked if the entire upper third and most of the middle third didn't get in (and you never know about the lower third).

I have no inside information or anything, that's just the way it typically works (as I'm sure all of you know).

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Hang in there guys, it could be another month.... or two. I would be really shocked if the entire upper third and most of the middle third didn't get in (and you never know about the lower third).

I have no inside information or anything, that's just the way it typically works (as I'm sure all of you know).

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There appears to be a lot less movement than last year. I've been trying to stay positive, but there is no disputing the facts. There are fewer people that we know of who have gotten in off the wait list this year than at this point last year and that's the case even with more people reporting their position on the wait list here on sdn. The observed trickle of wait list movement cannot be explained by statistical anomaly anymore.
 
There appears to be a lot less movement than last year. I've been trying to stay positive, but there is no disputing the facts. There are fewer people that we know of who have gotten in off the wait list this year than at this point last year and that's the case even with more people reporting their position on the wait list here on sdn. The observed trickle of wait list movement cannot be explained by statistical anomaly anymore.


You're in the upper third... you'll be good.
 
You're in the upper third... you'll be good.

I appreciate the sentiment, but you must forgive me for being a little restless until I am holding an acceptance letter. There were 4 sdners taken off the wait list during this week last year and that was with only 8 reporting to be on the upper third. I'm sorry for being a Debbie downer, but the timing of this decision has profound implications in my personal life.
 
There appears to be a lot less movement than last year. I've been trying to stay positive, but there is no disputing the facts. There are fewer people that we know of who have gotten in off the wait list this year than at this point last year and that's the case even with more people reporting their position on the wait list here on sdn. The observed trickle of wait list movement cannot be explained by statistical anomaly anymore.


yeah im getting pretty nervous too, i was definately expecting more than just one to get in this week
 
There appears to be a lot less movement than last year. I've been trying to stay positive, but there is no disputing the facts. There are fewer people that we know of who have gotten in off the wait list this year than at this point last year and that's the case even with more people reporting their position on the wait list here on sdn. The observed trickle of wait list movement cannot be explained by statistical anomaly anymore.

Did someone say statistics?

I said we'd know more by this friday, so here's what we know:

I've done some calculations. I can't guarantee they're correct. The theories are sound (i think) but I might have messed something up in excel.

Again, assumes perfectly random distribution, etc.

Here's what I did:

Assume upper waitlist of 33.
calculated how far the waitlists have probably moved (using the deck of cards analogies, and the ways of constructing two decks, one accepted and one not yet accepted, given the accepted/still waiting data. There are some weighted averages thrown in there too.)

(for 2010, it's 21.5 spaces. For 2011, it's 10.6 spaces. )

Then I figured out the probabilities that the waitlists are offset, and found what the most likely offset was, and came up with 11.9 spaces behind.

Therefore it seems that the two years not not progressing similarly.

Major contributors to this result that have not been addressed are the disparities in the number of people reporting upper third on SDN-- 19 this year, only 12 last year (I'm assuming only the known acceptances were listed as upper third.) The data 'sampling' method is horrible has has introduces lots of errors that I don't know how to correct for.

So what does this mean? Nothing. There are really too many confounding variables and simply not enough data to positively say the waitlist is moving slower, but the magic 8-ball is saying all signs point to yes.
 
It might be better to wait until after May 15th before freaking out, especially for people on the upper tier.
 
It might be better to wait until after May 15th before freaking out, especially for people on the upper tier.


Even with a drastic drop in movement of 50% to below the values of the past 5 years, upper tier is still completely in.
 

Last year's waitlist movement was around 90. historically the 5 year low was 56 or so. A drastic drop of 50%, to 45, still encompasses all of upper tier, which we assume to be 33 people.

Basically, all the data points to upper tier being safe. But like others, until I hold an acceptance in hand, I won't feel safe.
 
So I am in the class of 2015 and have been stopping by just to see how the class filling was going....and I have to say that with all of the statistical analysis you guys have been doing, I might be in over my head with you all being in my class. But seriously, I wish the best for all of you. Hope it all works out well and you get your way on July 25th. Much love
 
A slight change of topic. For those that were accepted in March or later, have any of you received your campus assignment? I got the email on March 11th, but haven't heard anything on which campus I'll get. Anybody out there that was accepted earlier and still hasn't heard? Thanks.

Good luck to all those waiting!
 
A slight change of topic. For those that were accepted in March or later, have any of you received your campus assignment? I got the email on March 11th, but haven't heard anything on which campus I'll get. Anybody out there that was accepted earlier and still hasn't heard? Thanks.

Good luck to all those waiting!

Hey McScoots! It took me nearly 2 1/2 months to get my official letter and campus assignment. I called UASOM and they said not to worry as long as you have put down your deposit, but it may take a while to get the letter.

Also, I made a post about a room for rent a while ago. I have posted some pictures on http://www.flickr.com/photos/62146569@N06/. Please let me know if there are any questions. Good luck to everyone on the wait list. I hope to see all of you this summer!
 
Accepted:
Gnocchi Monster's friend (A: 4/7, 1st tier)
BamaMed19's friend (A: 4/13, 1st tier)
RTR10 (A: 4/15, 1st tier)
aeea's friend (A: 4/15, 1st tier)
virginiagirl (A: 4/15, 1st tier)
alienshards' friend (A: 4/20 1st tier)

Upper Tier:
Bambalam
NeverDefeated
Ditto1114
premed3753
piper19
HP9965
alienshards
aeea
AUpremed22
spate36
pikpik55
Pluto or Astro
bulldog11

Middle Tier:
Putters
AUGuy
Remedy27
GnocchiMonster
WillCall
buckmaster11
ruraldoc7
preMDala
Dapado33
rrroddy

Bottom Tier:
YH5
BamaMed19
OdoyleRulez
jmb222
Spibumosa
nossan

Welcome Spibumosa!
 
I am so ready to start hearing good news this morning!
 
A slight change of topic. For those that were accepted in March or later, have any of you received your campus assignment? I got the email on March 11th, but haven't heard anything on which campus I'll get. Anybody out there that was accepted earlier and still hasn't heard? Thanks.

Good luck to all those waiting!

I'm still waiting on mine too. Got the email on the 11th of March as well.

Would REALLY like to have that letter! See you in the "Fall"~

Peaches😍
 
I just recently joined SDN and applying this summer. I have been busy reading this thread and I am dreading the application process... But I was looking for some help on a decision that I am going to have to make. I was wondering are my chances significantly better getting in as an ED applicant at UAB or should I just stick with applying as a regular applicant and just getting in at another school. I'm a 31Q/3.8/tons of extracurricular and shadowing. Any help would be much appreciated, and good luck to all of you!
 
I'm throwing out a new, "un-quantifiable" theory. Only 1/2 half of the top tier SDN'ers are active on this thread. Is it possible that we have 1, even 2 unreported acceptances? The joining of the list didn't seem as, umm, "organic" as last year. It's way too early for a roll call, but that could explain a possible disparity.

I'm just trying so hard to be a believer.
 
I'm throwing out a new, "un-quantifiable" theory. Only 1/2 half of the top tier SDN'ers are active on this thread. Is it possible that we have 1, even 2 unreported acceptances? The joining of the list didn't seem as, umm, "organic" as last year. It's way too early for a roll call, but that could explain a possible disparity.

I'm just trying so hard to be a believer.

It's possible. Virginiagirl didn't report for a whole weekend. If and when I get in, this will be my 3rd or so stop on my way to telling the world. Believe me, I would love for them to be in the middle tier by May 15th so that everyone has a good shot. Personally, regardless of whether or not I get in, finding out after a certain date poses quite the quandary for me.
 
I'm throwing out a new, "un-quantifiable" theory. Only 1/2 half of the top tier SDN'ers are active on this thread. Is it possible that we have 1, even 2 unreported acceptances? The joining of the list didn't seem as, umm, "organic" as last year. It's way too early for a roll call, but that could explain a possible disparity.

I'm just trying so hard to be a believer.

I hope so, it does seem like the same people posting regularly. I am worried about the size of the list, given our big turnout on the number of sdners (esp. on upper third) and no reports of rejection from any applicants when the list came out. Hopefully this is just coincidence as I as see no reason for them to increase the size of the list.
 
HP9965 - Without giving anything away, how close is your "need to find out deadline?" I have a friend, on a higher tier, who has to give another program a definitive answer in about 3 weeks - it's excruciating!

While I know this a longshot, Dr. Smith did give Tully Mars some insight into the liklihood of his getting in last year. You could wait until the last minute, and plead your case.

piper19 - I'm with you. There was such a definitive cluster of rejections last year that I'm afraid it became a "let's just put them all on the list" kinda thing this year - making the list a little longer.

This is classic anxiety from a "no information" situation.
 
HP9965 - Without giving anything away, how close is your "need to find out deadine?" I have a friend, on a higher tier, who has to give another program a definitive answer in about 3 weeks - it's excruciating!

While I know this a longshot, Dr. Smith did give Tully Mars some insight into the liklihood of his getting in last year. You could wait until the last minute, and plead your case.

piper19 - I'm with you. There was such a definitive cluster of rejections last year that I'm afraid it became a "let's just put them all on the list" kinda thing this year - making the list a little longer.

This is classic anxiety from a "no information" situation.

My deadline is about 2 weeks, and it has nothing to do with contingent acceptance at another program. The problem is largely financial/logistical.

Edit: Also, I highly doubt that the waitlist is significantly longer. Judging by the slower movement, there will likely be less waitlist acceptances this year. Surely UAB will have foreseen this or at least avoided drawing the opposite conclusion. Therefore, the list is likely the same size or smaller. The increase in # of SDNers reporting is significant across the board and likely reflects the growing popularity of this website rather than greater waitlist size. If I had to guess, I would say that the upper third will be about 66% done by the time May 15th rolls around. I have nothing to base this off of.
 
My deadline is about 2 weeks, and it has nothing to do with contingent acceptance at another program. The problem is largely financial/logistical.

Edit: Also, I highly doubt that the waitlist is significantly longer. Judging by the slower movement, there will likely be less waitlist acceptances this year. Surely UAB will have foreseen this or at least avoided drawing the opposite conclusion. Therefore, the list is likely the same size or smaller. The increase in # of SDNers reporting is significant across the board and likely reflects the growing popularity of this website rather than greater waitlist size. If I had to guess, I would say that the upper third will be about 66% done by the time May 15th rolls around. I have nothing to base this off of.

I agree it doesnt really make sense for them to extend the waitlist, I was just noticing a couple of unsettling occurences. Also, I like many of you do not place much stock in the facebook group, but it is hard to ignore the low number of people in the group. While it may be nothing, it could be that many of the accepted are still weighing their options (hopefully).
 
The only people who are going to report rejections are posters who posted during secondaries or interviews. That's usually not a very big pool. Who is going to join SDN just to post that they have been rejected? I agree with the sentiment that the high number of waitlisters is probably caused by the increasing popularity of this site and forums in general. If I had to guess, I'd say that the waitlist is probably the same size as last year. They used a decent percentage, but weren't in danger of running out either.
 
I know that we have already determined that most acceptances happen on Fridays and Mondays, but with no movement this past Friday or Monday...let's hope for some news today!
 
I know that we have already determined that most acceptances happen on Fridays and Mondays, but with no movement this past Friday or Monday...let's hope for some news today!

My intuition is that we wont see much until the week before and after May 15th (the 15th is a sunday this year). Expect big movement on the 16th, which should cover the remainder of the upper third and maybe some middle.
 
What happens on May 15th...what deadline is it?
I guess I should know but I do not
 
What happens on May 15th...what deadline is it?
I guess I should know but I do not

If I am correct, I am pretty sure it is typically the last day you can withdraw your acceptance and still get your deposit back. 🙂
 
If I am correct, I am pretty sure it is typically the last day you can withdraw your acceptance and still get your deposit back. 🙂

This is correct, but here area few more details:

As per the AAMC's recommendation, an applicant holding multiple acceptances is strongly encouraged to withdraw from every school but one on May 15th. They can, however, remain on any number of waitlists. The incentive to get your deposit back really drives the movement, and people holding multiple acceptances even withdrawing from a couple causes a huge cascade of waitlist movement around the country. Last year, they had just started taking the middle third when may 15th hit. In the following week almost everyone on the middle third was admitted, and they started taking from the lower third by early June.
 
My intuition is that we wont see much until the week before and after May 15th (the 15th is a sunday this year). Expect big movement on the 16th, which should cover the remainder of the upper third and maybe some middle.

remember though that the whole upper third was in last year a few days before May 15th hit, and many (if not most) got accepted in April with a few in early May, so I would still hope that we are going to see a good number of acceptances before that week before/after May 15th time period (hope is the key word).
 
another day of hitting the refresh button, another night of worry, hopefully another day-- tomorrow full of good news
 
well that makes it almost a week with no word...its time for somebody to call down there and see whats going on...not it!
 
well that makes it almost a week with no word...its time for somebody to call down there and see whats going on...not it!

Bold prediction. We will se some movement this week and next.
 
I guess the middle tier should start looking for another option. I was really optimistic when the waitlist came out because of the movement from the past couple of years. I'll keep hope but at this pace it will be lucky to get middle tier movement.
 
I'm feeling this: 1 acceptance today, a little cluster on Thursday/Friday, and we're back in business. I think there was some kind of "Easter came late" variable:xf:.
 
I am hoping that some accepted, out of state students are watching the weather...they should not risk this Alabama weather just for school...right?
 
I'm feeling this: 1 acceptance today, a little cluster on Thursday/Friday, and we're back in business. I think there was some kind of "Easter came late" variable:xf:.

wouldn't suprise if we didnt hear much today with the weather being a little rough, but i am hopeful
 
wouldn't suprise if we didnt hear much today with the weather being a little rough, but i am hopeful

I wouldn't count on getting anything today guys. the weather is terrible. i am in volker right now (medical school office is in this building) and the office of med school has been closed for the most of the day. The whole building is closed at the moment.
 
Good Morning - I hope all of you currently in Alabama stayed safe and are well. The images on the news this morning are terrifying.
 
I hope everyone is ok. I don't have power and there are trees down all over, but no major damage. My thoughts are with everyone in Tuscaloosa, North/West Birmingham, and Cullman. 🙁
 
I just received this message from UAB Hospital and thought I'd pass it along.

"Today we will be holding an EMERGENCY BLOOD DRIVE. If you are able to safely get to UAB, we ask that you come down to volunteer at the blood drive or donate blood. UAB is the only Level 1 Trauma Center in the state, therefore, we are receiving some of the badly injured and need lots of donations.

Thank you and again we hope everyone is okay."
 
I just received this message from UAB Hospital and thought I'd pass it along.

"Today we will be holding an EMERGENCY BLOOD DRIVE. If you are able to safely get to UAB, we ask that you come down to volunteer at the blood drive or donate blood. UAB is the only Level 1 Trauma Center in the state, therefore, we are receiving some of the badly injured and need lots of donations.

Thank you and again we hope everyone is okay."

I got the same email and went by and donated.

They will be open from 11a-6pm (?) until next Tuesday I believe.
They're in the North Pavillion of University Hospital (above the ER).
 
I watched the Tuscaloosa tornado descend about 700 yards from where I work. It didn't hit us, but it demolished everything about a half mile north of us. They blocked off most of the roads when I was going home because of bodies that were thrown from vehichles. I went down McFarland and was just about the last one through before they closed it off. You can't even recognize parts of it.
 
From the Royal Wedding message: Today is a day of Hope
 
Some campus assignments were released today. I saw it online (go to your online app and check status). Not sure if campus assignment will help the waitlist or not. B'ham here I come!
 
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