2010-2011 University of Alabama Thread

[piper19]

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alienshards and hp, so are yall saying that yall do think they will make it through the upper tier?

 

[HP9965]

No it is not normal to have that many- most years lose only 1-2. But like I said a lot were for different medical reasons or personal reasons, so don't be so quick to judge and say you would gladly have taken their place... life is complicated, and things happen when you least expect it... and no we did not lose 22- we have lost exactly 14 ppl-

like I said good luck! i know the waiting sucks, i was in the same boat last year

Surely you understand why it is frustrating for us that 14 spots are taken by dropouts regardless of their reasons for doing so.

 

[HP9965]

alienshards and hp, so are yall saying that yall do think they will make it through the upper tier?

I hesitate to make any judgment, but, assuming a wait list of ~100, even if Uab cut significantly back on oos state acceptances, I would be shocked if they didn't make it through most if not all the upper tier. That's worst case scenario.

 

[nossan]

Remember when UASOM determines the length of the waitlist, they have all that information locked down. It is in their best interest to make sure that the list more than adequately meets THEIR worst case senario. Having said that, I'm sure they want to meet that goal with the shortist list possible - to minimize unnecessary heartbreak.

They know the number of OSS, which OSS and IS are holding dual acceptances, who sits on more desirable waitlists, perhaps even who will be recieving money that may tip the scales on a decision.

I would like to think that the later the waitlist is released, the more accurate the number is. I would be feeling pretty good, even in the middle tier.

 

[Calfox21]

What did you major in?

I was a biomedical engineer. Great for Birmingham (with all the medical research), bad for Huntsville (primarily aerospace/mechanical/chemical engineering).

Thanks. I'll look up the day camp though. That might be a good way to go ahead and move down to Birmingham at the beginning of the summer.

 

[HP9965]

I'm sure that is the worst case senario. Remember when UASOM determines the length of the waitlist, they have all that information locked down - not just our best guess. It is in their best interest (neccessity) to make sure that the list more than adequately meets THEIR worst case senario. Having said that, I'm sure they want to meet that goal with the shortist list possible - to minimize unnecessary heartbreak.

They know the number of OSS, which OSS and IS are holding dual acceptances, who sits on more desirable waitlists, perhaps even who will be recieving money that may tip the scales on a decision. There must be a fairly proven formula. Take that number and add a cushion of nossan + 10 others and you have the waitlist.

I would like to think that the later the waitlist is released, the more accurate the number is. I would be feeling pretty good, even in the middle tier.

Their worst case scenario(they take everyone off the waitlist and have to start calling rejected applicants) is very different from our worst-case scenario (they take 10 or less people off the waitlist).

 

[piper19]

I hesitate to make any judgment, but, assuming a wait list of ~100, even if Uab cut significantly back on oos state acceptances, I would be shocked if they didn't make it through most if not all the upper tier. That's worst case scenario.

do we know for sure that uab cut back on oos acceptances?

 

[HP9965]

do we know for sure that uab cut back on oos acceptances?

No, but that MS1 came in and said that last year is considered sort of a debacle among admissions circles due to them admitting too many oos students. However, Alienshards pointed out that an increase in oos state acceptances has been a multi-year trend, which is backed up by the data. I don't know anything for sure, but, even assuming a return to 2006 levels of OOS acceptances and 14 students returning from leaves of absence, that still leaves spots for all of the upper third. Knock on wood.

 

[Chalen23]

Hey guys! Just wanted you all to know I've been thinking about you and I truly hope I get to see everyone in class next year. I know some of you will be trying to find housing soon so I thought I would let everyone know that I am looking for a female roommate. I own a townhouse and listed the room at $350 including utilities (it was built in the late 90's and is very nice). I am willing to bring the price down if needed. I know medical school will be expensive and that most of us won't be making money for quite a while. Therefore, I'm hoping this may help someone to keep costs down. I have placed the listing on the UASOM facebook page in case anyone is interested. If there are those that don't like facebook, my number is (402)770-7857. Please feel free to call if you have any questions. I wish you all the best of luck!!

-Chaeli

 

[auburnO5]

Looks like alienshards is taking the early lead for annoying class gunner 🙄

I would try to stress as little as possible at this point guys, it is still early. As somebody already said, it really seems like at least half of our class (MS1) got in off the waitlist.

Good luck Ditto I'm pulling for you

 

[alienshards]

Looks like alienshards is taking the early lead for annoying class gunner 🙄

I would try to stress as little as possible at this point guys, it is still early. As somebody already said, it really seems like at least half of our class (MS1) got in off the waitlist.

Good luck Ditto I'm pulling for you

Oh yes. Trouble is, you won't know who I am. I'm a secret gunner.

Anyways, we look to be on schedule. We'll know better in a week how things stand.

 

[HP9965]

Oh yes. Trouble is, you won't know who I am. I'm a secret gunner.

Anyways, we look to be on schedule. We'll know better in a week how things stand.

I'm lucky that I haven't gotten that reputation yet. Isn't tomorrow when scholarships are released, potentially spurring some wait list movement?

 

[alienshards]

I'm lucky that I haven't gotten that reputation yet. Isn't tomorrow when scholarships are released, potentially spurring some wait list movement?

Well, it's the deadline for scholarships. They don't wait until Apr. 15th to start giving them out though. Probably sometime next week they'll tell people that all scholarships are given one (based on looking at the pattern of acceptances). An MS1 who applied for scholarships would probably better be able to tell us.

 

[minhaj]

Hey guys, there is no reason to believe that UASOM is going to decrease the number of OOS acceptances. bamapremed what is your source?

 

[HP9965]

Hey guys, there is no reason to believe that UASOM is going to decrease the number of OOS acceptances. bamapremed what is your source?

Do you expect similar wait list movement?

 

[bamamed86]

No it is not normal to have that many- most years lose only 1-2. But like I said a lot were for different medical reasons or personal reasons, so don't be so quick to judge and say you would gladly have taken their place... life is complicated, and things happen when you least expect it... and no we did not lose 22- we have lost exactly 14 ppl-

like I said good luck! i know the waiting sucks, i was in the same boat last year

Very true... As one of the 14 people that took a leave of absence from the class of 2014 I would much rather be studying for the GI module final than on a LOA but I did not have a choice just as the other 13 - I truly believe that none of us wanted to leave - we just had to do what was best for us at the time. And for what it is worth to everyone on the waitlist - according to the Fun 1 exam schedule and the ICM group list there were 179 people in our class at the beginning of Fun 1. So I am -cautiously- assuming that LOAs are not taking away any of the original 176 seats - but that is just from looking at the lists that we were given so take it for what it is worth - I make no guarantees. I hope that LOAs don't take away any of the 176 seats - I would hate to be the reason 1 person did not get in. Best of luck to everyone on the waitlist and see you in July!

 

[Pluto or Astro]

Accepted:
Gnocchi Monster's friend (A: 4/7, 1st tier)
BamaMed19's friend (A: 4/13, 1st tier)

Upper Tier:
virginiagirl
Bambalam
NeverDefeated
RTR10
Ditto1114
premed3753
piper19
HP9965
alienshards
aeea
AUpremed22
spate36
pikpik55
Pluto or Astro

Middle Tier:
Putters
AUGuy
Remedy27
GnocchiMonster
WillCall
buckmaster11
ruraldoc7
preMDala
Dapado33
rrroddy

Bottom Tier:
YH5
BamaMed19
OdoyleRulez
jmb222
nossan

 

[alienshards]

Very true... As one of the 14 people that took a leave of absence from the class of 2014 I would much rather be studying for the GI module final than on a LOA but I did not have a choice just as the other 13 - I truly believe that none of us wanted to leave - we just had to do what was best for us at the time. And for what it is worth to everyone on the waitlist - according to the Fun 1 exam schedule and the ICM group list there were 179 people in our class at the beginning of Fun 1. So I am -cautiously- assuming that LOAs are not taking away any of the original 176 seats - but that is just from looking at the lists that we were given so take it for what it is worth - I make no guarantees. I hope that LOAs don't take away any of the 176 seats - I would hate to be the reason 1 person did not get in. Best of luck to everyone on the waitlist and see you in July!

My understanding is the availability of clinical spots limits the class size.

 

[nossan]

Good morning everyone. Welcome Pluto or Astro. Are there any other middle and bottom tiers out there that would like to be added - it does become relevent later on.

I'm ready for a SDNer to get an acceptance! I'm sure it will start rolling next week - but today would be nice. C'mon Ditto!

 

[Ditto1114]

To all the SDN lurkers that just joined!

I was a biomedical engineer. Great for Birmingham (with all the medical research), bad for Huntsville (primarily aerospace/mechanical/chemical engineering).

Thanks. I'll look up the day camp though. That might be a good way to go ahead and move down to Birmingham at the beginning of the summer.

I'm not sure if there are a lot of opportunities like this in Huntsville, but the pharmaceutical company I work for always hires temps during our peak manufacturing times (spring/summer) from Kelly Scientific. www.kellyscientific.com

You could also try Lab Corp www.labcorp.com if you want something more clinical.

Good luck Ditto I'm pulling for you

C'mon Ditto!

Ya'll are too sweet! If I get in drinks soon, drinks on me at J. Clyde!

 

[HP9965]

Very true... As one of the 14 people that took a leave of absence from the class of 2014 I would much rather be studying for the GI module final than on a LOA but I did not have a choice just as the other 13 - I truly believe that none of us wanted to leave - we just had to do what was best for us at the time. And for what it is worth to everyone on the waitlist - according to the Fun 1 exam schedule and the ICM group list there were 179 people in our class at the beginning of Fun 1. So I am -cautiously- assuming that LOAs are not taking away any of the original 176 seats - but that is just from looking at the lists that we were given so take it for what it is worth - I make no guarantees. I hope that LOAs don't take away any of the 176 seats - I would hate to be the reason 1 person did not get in. Best of luck to everyone on the waitlist and see you in July!

If you could not have done otherwise, you have nothing to apologize for. Please understand, however, that it is frustrating to be reminded that 14 people will likely not receive admission due to a random fluctuation in the number or LOAs (14 instead of 2ish). Best of luck to you.

 

[Calfox21]

I'm not sure if there are a lot of opportunities like this in Huntsville, but the pharmaceutical company I work for always hires temps during our peak manufacturing times (spring/summer) from Kelly Scientific. www.kellyscientific.com

You could also try Lab Corp www.labcorp.com if you want something more clinical.

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out.

 

[RTR10]

I WAS JUST ACCEPTED!!!!!! The wait is over! I will be turning down my acceptance to South, so I hope that helps one of you guys out!! Good luck to everyone... You guys have been great! I'm looking forward to meeting my classmates in July.😀

 

[alienshards]

I WAS JUST ACCEPTED!!!!!! The wait is over! I will be turning down my acceptance to South, so I hope that helps one of you guys out!! Good luck to everyone... You guys have been great! I'm looking forward to meeting my classmates in July.😀

Congrats!

*check's email furiously.* Nothing yet...

But congrats!

 

[BamaMed19]

Accepted:
Gnocchi Monster's friend (A: 4/7, 1st tier)
BamaMed19's friend (A: 4/13, 1st tier)
RTR10 (A: 4/15, 1st tier)

Upper Tier:
virginiagirl
Bambalam
NeverDefeated
Ditto1114
premed3753
piper19
HP9965
alienshards
aeea
AUpremed22
spate36
pikpik55
Pluto or Astro

Middle Tier:
Putters
AUGuy
Remedy27
GnocchiMonster
WillCall
buckmaster11
ruraldoc7
preMDala
Dapado33
rrroddy

Bottom Tier:
YH5
BamaMed19
OdoyleRulez
jmb222
nossan

 

[Ditto1114]

I WAS JUST ACCEPTED!!!!!! The wait is over! I will be turning down my acceptance to South, so I hope that helps one of you guys out!! Good luck to everyone... You guys have been great! I'm looking forward to meeting my classmates in July.😀

Congrats!!! 👍 I'm glad to see some SDNer's being accepted!!

 

[HP9965]

Congrats!!! 👍 I'm glad to see some SDNer's being accepted!!

True. The list is moving at approximately the same rate as last year. Hopefully, another sdner will be admitted today or monday.

 

[aeea]

A friend of mine just got in, she was upper 1/3

 

[HP9965]

A friend of my just got in, she was upper 1/3

Was it rtr10? Just to make sure we aren't double counting.

 

[RTR10]

Thank you all! I'm pretty sure you guys can expect the normal waitlist movement this year (like last year). My brother is a first-year at UAB, and he was very confident in telling me that. I'm not sure if I'm being double counted. It seems like I've told the whole world in the past hour, so it's possible, but it is likely that the acceptance is a second person...it depends on who aeea is... Again, I wish you all the very best of luck

 

[aeea]

Was it rtr10? Just to make sure we aren't double counting.

Assuming RTR is from Univ. Alabama...my friends is from UAB

also RTR said she was in at USA and my friend is not
so that is 2 for today that we know of

 

[RTR10]

I suppose the "RTR" gave it away! You guys can add two to the acceptance list for today. The waitlist is on the move👍 I hope every last one of you gets an acceptance!! 🙂

 

[nossan]

Accepted:
Gnocchi Monster's friend (A: 4/7, 1st tier)
BamaMed19's friend (A: 4/13, 1st tier)
RTR10 (A: 4/15, 1st tier)
aeea's friend (A: 4/15, 1st tier)

Upper Tier:
virginiagirl
Bambalam
NeverDefeated
Ditto1114
premed3753
piper19
HP9965
alienshards
aeea
AUpremed22
spate36
pikpik55
Pluto or Astro

Middle Tier:
Putters
AUGuy
Remedy27
GnocchiMonster
WillCall
buckmaster11
ruraldoc7
preMDala
Dapado33
rrroddy

Bottom Tier:
YH5
BamaMed19
OdoyleRulez
jmb222
nossan

Congratulations RTR!

 

[aeea]

Does anyone know if they pull from the waiting list based on gender/ISvsOOS/minority status or just the next in line
Looking at the facebook page UASOM Class of 2015...it looks girl heavy
I am not sure if that is just who has joined the page or what?

 

[alienshards]

All that stuff probably factors into the numerical interview score. Once your score is set, I doubt it's changed.

Anyways, it's looking like it's better to be the friend of an SDNer than an SDNer.

 

[HP9965]

All that stuff probably factors into the numerical interview score. Once your score is set, I doubt it's changed.

Anyways, it's looking like it's better to be the friend of an SDNer than an SDNer.

Do you think the wait list could be bigger this year? Not that that would be too much of a problem (I see no reason why UAB would make the wait list bigger unless that had reason to suspect it would move more).

 

[alienshards]

Do you think the wait list could be bigger this year? Not that that would be too much of a problem (I see no reason why UAB would make the wait list bigger unless that had reason to suspect it would move more).

It's certainly possible. I suspect it's a bit of an issue for an admissions committee if you nearly go through your entire waitlist. You need a bit of a cushion. I'd think the target would be upper third and middle third. (then again, I'm not in admissions, so as most of my conclusions, this is speculation). Waitlist movement increased in the last two years, which may have prompted an expansion of the waitlist.

It's certainly possible that instead of reducing OOS acceptances, the waitlist was increased (say, from 100 to 120). Either change makes sense for admissions, and is not positive for waitlisters.

We will see though, by mid May, how things are going. Next week will give us a better idea as well.

 

[VanBrown]

My understanding is the availability of clinical spots limits the class size.

The people that accredit the school set the # that the school can have

 

[VanBrown]

Does anyone know if they pull from the waiting list based on gender/ISvsOOS/minority status or just the next in line
Looking at the facebook page UASOM Class of 2015...it looks girl heavy
I am not sure if that is just who has joined the page or what?

no, it's based on who has the next highest score...

also, none of your demographic stuff goes into your "score"

 

[Calfox21]

no, it's based on who has the next highest score...

also, none of your demographic stuff goes into your "score"

Now that's just patently untrue. It may be a pink elephant that no one wants to talk about, but your demographics do play into your score. It's no coincidence that they usually have close to a 50/50 split for girls to guys. They may not be pulling preferentially from the waitlist, but all that went into deciding your number on the list in the first place.

 

[HP9965]

no, it's based on who has the next highest score...

also, none of your demographic stuff goes into your "score"

Van brown, I was perusing last years thread and noticed you were able to get some info on the wait list. Do you think it will move similarly?

 

[Calfox21]

no, it's based on who has the next highest score...

also, none of your demographic stuff goes into your "score"

In retrospect, I think I misunderstood about the question a bit. I still say that demographics are included in your score (because unless the stats have changed a bunch in the past few years, the majority of the upper tier should be men). I'd have to defer to alien (he seems to be the resident statistics guru) about whether they could construct the list so that they could just go straight down it without skewing the class profile too badly.

 

[alienshards]

In retrospect, I think I misunderstood about the question a bit. I still say that demographics are included in your score (because unless the stats have changed a bunch in the past few years, the majority of the upper tier should be men). I'd have to defer to alien (he seems to be the resident statistics guru) about whether they could construct the list so that they could just go straight down it without skewing the class profile too badly.

It's definitely doable to get a distribution you want with a straight list that you follow. It's just a matter of making the average stats for each subgroup the same as the whole group. However, this requires a pretty blatant manipulation of attractiveness scores based solely on demographics, which doesn't seem likely.

What's more likely is that when the adcom is voting on a candidate (and thus giving them their interview score), there would a bit of unspoken pressure to give slightly higher scores to "desirable" demographics.

Now, this isn't as precise as a statistical method, but it also doesn't leave a paper trail that says "we favor people based on race/ sex"

So a candidate's numerical score is based off of GPA, MCAT, and interview, and as you can see, demographics officially play "no part" in the score. However, it would influence the interview section, and thus influence the candidate's numerical score.

At least, that's how I would do it, if I were in charge of an admissions department and was told I needed to ensure a diverse class without leaving a paper trail.

 

[HP9965]

It's definitely doable to get a distribution you want with a straight list that you follow. It's just a matter of making the average stats for each subgroup the same as the whole group. However, this requires a pretty blatant manipulation of attractiveness scores based solely on demographics, which doesn't seem likely.

What's more likely is that when the adcom is voting on a candidate (and thus giving them their interview score), there would a bit of unspoken pressure to give slightly higher scores to "desirable" demographics.

Now, this isn't as precise as a statistical method, but it also doesn't leave a paper trail that says "we favor people based on race/ sex"

So a candidate's numerical score is based off of GPA, MCAT, and interview, and as you can see, demographics officially play "no part" in the score. However, it would influence the interview section, and thus influence the candidate's numerical score.

At least, that's how I would do it, if I were in charge of an admissions department and was told I needed to ensure a diverse class without leaving a paper trail.

I think as far as the wait list goes, they only tell you what third you're on in order to preferentially assign alternates that fit the demographic profile of the student that withdrew.

 

[piper19]

I think as far as the wait list goes, they only tell you what third you're on in order to preferentially assign alternates that fit the demographic profile of the student that withdrew.

I disagree, if they're trying stay with in demographics then they do so by predicting how far they will make it into the waitlist, and creating the list accordingly. At this point, I'm almost positive that all of our names are on a list and as one accepted person drops then the next person in order on the list is accepted.

 

[HP9965]

I disagree, if they're trying stay with in demographics then they do so by predicting how far they will make it into the waitlist, and creating the list accordingly. At this point, I'm almost positive that all of our names are on a list and as one accepted person drops then the next person in order on the list is accepted.

Judging by last years thread, it appears that UAB sends out waitlist acceptances in bursts, primarily on Mondays and Fridays. I understand Mondays (they are not in the office over the weekend and must account for withdrawn acceptances come monday), but why do you think they delayduring the week? My theories are as follows:
1. They look at the third of the waitlist they are currently in and accept a student with a similar demographic and scholastic profile as the student that withdrew.
2. They make some attempt to conserve campus assignment preferences.

 

[piper19]

Judging by last years thread, it appears that UAB sends out waitlist acceptances in bursts, primarily on Mondays and Fridays. I understand Mondays (they are not in the office over the weekend and must account for withdrawn acceptances come monday), but why do you think they delayduring the week? My theories are as follows:
1. They look at the third of the waitlist they are currently in and accept a student with a similar demographic and scholastic profile as the student that withdrew.
2. They make some attempt to conserve campus assignment preferences.

its possible, but i think its unlikely, but what do i know? nothing but speculation, i wish they gave us more to go on! Either way hopefully we will see significant movement this week

 

[aeea]

I am ready to start hearing some good news today...Here is to all us...Cheers!

 

[HP9965]

I am ready to start hearing some good news today...Here is to all us...Cheers!

Amen to that. It's 39 degrees and snowing here in Chicago, and nothing would be better than getting a letter that tells me I never have to come back. Good luck to everyone this week. Last year, 5 SDNers came off the waitlist this week.

 

[Ditto1114]

Amen to that. It's 39 degrees and snowing here in Chicago, and nothing would be better than getting a letter that tells me I never have to come back. Good luck to everyone this week. Last year, 5 SDNers came off the waitlist this week.

It's in the 60s and sunny down here. 😛 I love Chicago! I do not miss the 6-months of winter, though. When you get in and come back to Bham can you bring me a Portillo's dog?