2011-2012 Albert Einstein Application Thread

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Hi guys,
Does anyone know what is the grading scheme for m1 and m2?
Thanks,
 
Debating on whether to attend interview on not. I was recently accepted into two excellent state schools so I'm finding it hard to justify moving out of state due to housing and tuition (46k vs 27k /year) costs.

I'd appreciate if somebody can give me more information about financial aid (how much grant/scholarship does Einstein offer?) and things that really set Einstein apart. I really really want to go but finances are playing a huge role at the moment!
 
UpQuark said:
Debating on whether to attend interview on not. I was recently accepted into two excellent state schools so I'm finding it hard to justify moving out of state due to housing and tuition (46k vs 27k /year) costs.

I'd appreciate if somebody can give me more information about financial aid (how much grant/scholarship does Einstein offer?) and things that really set Einstein apart. I really really want to go but finances are playing a huge role at the moment!
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Einstein has a service/research scholarship that is given to multiple students, in varying amounts, for all four years. I heard some people got $25,000 per year (I'm not sure if that's the highest amount). Also, housing at Einstein is dirt cheap, so the school may actually make some financial sense.

The students are what really set Einstein apart. There's a sense of community, level of friendliness, and lack of competition that make for a fantastic learning environment. Einstein also has an extensive global health program with lots of funding available, as well as numerous research opportunities.
 
velleityx said:
it's not that bad! when i went to my interview in november, a lot of the first year students were stunned at how early we were interviewing and mentioned that most of the people in their class got in with february - march interviews!
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Old Post, but great to know! I was complete 11/1 and my interview is early march, nonetheless there is still hope apparently. 🙂
 
thanks Obliquity, i'm actually in the same boat as upquark, um...anyone know how receptive is einstein to interview date changes after you confirm with them with an interview date already?
 
Just catching up on the thread right now, congrats to everyone accepted! 🙂

Awhile ago someone asked if there was a sim lab - there isn't one at the clinical skills center yet. You train on real people for the most part (teaching assistants for breast, vaginal and prostate exams) there is a sim lab i believe at Montefiore along with other things (a surgical lab too i hear) which people might use in third year, im not completely sure though.

Among other things that makes Einstein special is how involved the second year class is with the first year class. The second years put on a good portion of the orientation, are part of the big brother/big sister program, put on a party night called "around the world", are tutors for all the first year courses, and also run the first year anatomy course review sessions and do practice practicals for the first years.
 
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A couple questions for current students on housing-

How does housing assign apartments? Do you pick roommates or are you randomly assigned? When does this usually happen?

Which apartments having some living space, the two bedrooms or the three bedrooms?

Do some third and fourth years end up getting studios?
 
hurricane123 said:
A couple questions for current students on housing-

How does housing assign apartments? Do you pick roommates or are you randomly assigned? When does this usually happen?

Which apartments having some living space, the two bedrooms or the three bedrooms?

Do some third and fourth years end up getting studios?
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Assignments are random, but I think you could pick a roommate if you knew someone in the class (you can request 2 vs. 3 bedroom though). Also, you can switch apartments after you move in, so if you aren't happy, you can change things. (You can live with people of any class year). Assignments for first years come early in the summer if I remember correctly.

If the pending construction is completed, no apartments will have living rooms anymore. Currently, some three bedroom apartments have living rooms, but they don't conform to current fire code, so they are being consolidated into the adjacent bedroom. However, the kitchens are being enlarged slightly to create a common space.

There is a waiting list for studios, and I believe students get off the waitlist for studios by the fourth year, but not much earlier.
 
Obliquity said:
Assignments are random, but I think you could pick a roommate if you knew someone in the class (you can request 2 vs. 3 bedroom though). Also, you can switch apartments after you move in, so if you aren't happy, you can change things. (You can live with people of any class year). Assignments for first years come early in the summer if I remember correctly.

If the pending construction is completed, no apartments will have living rooms anymore. Currently, some three bedroom apartments have living rooms, but they don't conform to current fire code, so they are being consolidated into the adjacent bedroom. However, the kitchens are being enlarged slightly to create a common space.

There is a waiting list for studios, and I believe students get off the waitlist for studios by the fourth year, but not much earlier.
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Do you know how/where my wife and I would get placed if we decided to stay in the on-campus housing? I can't imagine they'll make us room with someone else, but a 3-4 year waitlist for studios is pretty extreme (I know, it's not extreme for NYC).
 
YuriOrlov said:
Do you know how/where my wife and I would get placed if we decided to stay in the on-campus housing? I can't imagine they'll make us room with someone else, but a 3-4 year waitlist for studios is pretty extreme (I know, it's not extreme for NYC).
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I should have mentioned, that only applies to single students. Married students, those with children, and other situations have special consideration and most, if not all, are assigned appropriate housing from the get-go.
 
Obliquity said:
Assignments are random, but I think you could pick a roommate if you knew someone in the class (you can request 2 vs. 3 bedroom though). Also, you can switch apartments after you move in, so if you aren't happy, you can change things. (You can live with people of any class year). Assignments for first years come early in the summer if I remember correctly.

If the pending construction is completed, no apartments will have living rooms anymore. Currently, some three bedroom apartments have living rooms, but they don't conform to current fire code, so they are being consolidated into the adjacent bedroom. However, the kitchens are being enlarged slightly to create a common space.

There is a waiting list for studios, and I believe students get off the waitlist for studios by the fourth year, but not much earlier.
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Just an FYI a lot of the third years got a studio the begining of this year.

And yea, any married couples or people with children get studios from the start - there is no waitlist for that.
 
I just received an interview invite for March. Can anyone tell me what the interview process was like and how to prepare for it? It is probably somewhere in the thread but I did not find it in all of these pages.
 
Also just got an interview invite, but decided to withdraw it. Hope someone else on here gets it! Good luck!
 
13294 said:
I just received an interview invite for March. Can anyone tell me what the interview process was like and how to prepare for it? It is probably somewhere in the thread but I did not find it in all of these pages.
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Super laid back interview day. You meet at the main office at the start of the day and either take a tour then interview with one faculty member or vice versa. If you feel you don't "click" with your interviewer, they say the best thing to do is report to the admissions office immediately afterwards to ask for another interview (they say they might be able to accommodate that day). My interview was relaxed, mostly discussing my path to medicine, the state of health care today, and some random other subjects all related to my application. Oh - also, my interview was off campus (they provided a shuttle). Getting there and back was super easy, and I hear it's the same for any other sites you may have to interview at. Good luck!
 
Is Einstein under the block system? How often are the test? How many tests do you take each time?
 
ahhhhhhhhhh said:
Is Einstein under the block system? How often are the test? How many tests do you take each time?
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You take exams once a month - first year you will usually take two exams at once with study days in between them (you never have two exams scheduled on two consecutive days). You take two courses at once throughout both first and second year.

Second year is the same except some of our exams are staggered even more.

Quite honestly - its as a chill as it can get.
 
zebalong said:
You take exams once a month - first year you will usually take two exams at once with study days in between them (you never have two exams scheduled on two consecutive days). You take two courses at once throughout both first and second year.

Second year is the same except some of our exams are staggered even more.

Quite honestly - its as a chill as it can get.
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Don't make fun of the question, but do you think it may be too relaxed? I almost had the impression at Tulane (wasn't around enough first and second years at Einstein) that things were so relaxed, in comparison to some other schools, that it may sacrifice step 1 scores. Thoughts?
 
BSU said:
Don't make fun of the question, but do you think it may be too relaxed? I almost had the impression at Tulane (wasn't around enough first and second years at Einstein) that things were so relaxed, in comparison to some other schools, that it may sacrifice step 1 scores. Thoughts?
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From the webpage:
"As of January 1, 2010 the passing score is 188. The national average is about a 222. Einstein's average is typically a bit higher than that."
 
Just a few more questions.

I told people that Einstein has a true pass/fail grading system, but no one believes me. They said that no one school has a true pass/fail, and that they just tell that to prospective students. I know that this topic has been brought up a couple of times, but can a medical student or someone talk a little more on this. If it is true pass/fail, how do they consider for academic achievements for the AOA?

Also, I am interested in ECHO. I was wondering if anyone know if anyone that is interested can volunteer as many times as they want. What do first and second year usually do in ECHO? The reason I asked is that at another school, first and second year only get a certain amount of days in the clinic.

Does Einstein use iTunesU to capture audio and video with picture? Some schools have just the powerpoint slide with audio but students cannot see what the professors are pointing at. What about the technology? Some schools have virtual microscope or other online resources for students to enhance their skills, and I was wondering how Einstein is.

For the medical spanish class, how often do these classes meet and do they require a large time commitment?

Does Einstein have any longitudinal clinical experience?
 
ahhhhhhhhhh said:
Just a few more questions.

I told people that Einstein has a true pass/fail grading system, but no one believes me. They said that no one school has a true pass/fail, and that they just tell that to prospective students. I know that this topic has been brought up a couple of times, but can a medical student or someone talk a little more on this. If it is true pass/fail, how do they consider for academic achievements for the AOA?

Also, I am interested in ECHO. I was wondering if anyone know if anyone that is interested can volunteer as many times as they want. What do first and second year usually do in ECHO? The reason I asked is that at another school, first and second year only get a certain amount of days in the clinic.

Does Einstein use iTunesU to capture audio and video with picture? Some schools have just the powerpoint slide with audio but students cannot see what the professors are pointing at. What about the technology? Some schools have virtual microscope or other online resources for students to enhance their skills, and I was wondering how Einstein is.

For the medical spanish class, how often do these classes meet and do they require a large time commitment?

Does Einstein have any longitudinal clinical experience?
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Einstein does indeed have a true pass/fail system, it's not just something that is told to prospective students. However, this is only for the first two (pre-clinical) years. AOA is calculated based on graded third and fourth year performance. I have never heard of a medical school being pass/fail for third and fourth years. Whenever a school says it is pass/fail, it is almost always referring to the pre-clinical years.

ECHO has a schedule - I think you wind up volunteering 4-5 times a semester. I'll let another student comment on what first and second year students do there - it's quite hands on if you want it to be.

Einstein currently is audio-only, however, that isn't because the technology here isn't up to par - it was done to encourage lecture attendance. However, the admin is rethinking this (and is very open to student input) and I think it is probable that video or audio with slides will be coming next year (unknown whether it's via iTunesU). Einstein has an extensive virtual microscope collection for histology (in addition to learning on real light microscopes). Einstein has moved to a paperless curriculum, meaning all classes have electronic course materials, along with a print allowance.

Not sure about the medical Spanish class.

Einstein is a big proponent of early and often clinical experiences. A central part of first year is a course that runs from September - March, where every Monday each student goes to a clinical site and practices interviewing, oral presentations, and the chest and abdomen physical exam. The site and physician preceptor are kept the same throughout the course, allowing students to develop a professional relationship with a medical colleague and develop clinical skills in the first few months of school. I'm not sure about second year (I'm an MS1).

Edit: Also, as for the previous question about the relaxed atmosphere - you have to remember, everyone here is extremely smart and motivated. Just because the atmosphere lacks the competitive tension present at some schools doesn't mean students aren't working hard. Rather, it allows everyone to help each other, resulting in a stronger class overall. And yes, Einstein's board scores are indeed above average.
 
Thanks so much! I grew up in the Bronx, right around Albert Einstein so it shouldn't be hard to find. I hope I relax, I really want to get into this school. It is my number one choice.
 
nucleophilic said:
Super laid back interview day. You meet at the main office at the start of the day and either take a tour then interview with one faculty member or vice versa. If you feel you don't "click" with your interviewer, they say the best thing to do is report to the admissions office immediately afterwards to ask for another interview (they say they might be able to accommodate that day). My interview was relaxed, mostly discussing my path to medicine, the state of health care today, and some random other subjects all related to my application. Oh - also, my interview was off campus (they provided a shuttle). Getting there and back was super easy, and I hear it's the same for any other sites you may have to interview at. Good luck!
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Thanks a bunch! I am super excited.
 
I'm not sure if it is true but I heard that the admissions committee meets once a week every thurs. Since they already met before Jan 15th I am hoping they keep that up and send out acceptances again today.
 
They are sending out more acceptances now! I just got my email. 🙂
 
I'm nervous I interviewed way back in early Sept like the 7th I think it was and I still haven't heard! Going nuts
 
BSU said:
Don't make fun of the question, but do you think it may be too relaxed? I almost had the impression at Tulane (wasn't around enough first and second years at Einstein) that things were so relaxed, in comparison to some other schools, that it may sacrifice step 1 scores. Thoughts?
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By relaxed don't take it as in we just slack off. There is plenty to learn and plenty to do for different classes (in school exams, clinical visits, group work, and preparing for the step for the MS2s). It is nice that Einstein respects the amount of balancing and time management needed in order to excel in all of those different areas and gives us a schedule and the support to do so. Our step 1 scores are definitely up to par we were told the averages for last years class and it was above the average for the US allopathic schools with a nice std. deviation - one guy scored a 270.

But let me emphasize - step one scores are by FAR more a product of the individual then by the school. For example: the people who are starting to study in Jan. will probably score higher then the people who wait until the dedicated study time. That is a personal preference along with future goals - im sure people shooting for competitive specialties will start studying earlier.
 
Thanks zebalong and Obliquity for taking the time to answer. Congrats to those accepted today!
 
I had a question for any one who recieved the Save The Date email a few weeks ago or was accepted today. Is there anyway to reserve your spot or do we have to wait until the 15th? I didn't see any clear way to accept admission decision in the email. Also are we supposed to RSVP to the save the date email? Thanks!
 
kelsmil3 said:
I had a question for any one who recieved the Save The Date email a few weeks ago or was accepted today. Is there anyway to reserve your spot or do we have to wait until the 15th? I didn't see any clear way to accept admission decision in the email. Also are we supposed to RSVP to the save the date email? Thanks!
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I'm not sure about RSVPing, but they only want us to let them know if we are not interested in attending before January 15th. We can't accept the seat until after.
 
Thanks!!

BSU said:
I'm not sure about RSVPing, but they only want us to let them know if we are not interested in attending before January 15th. We can't accept the seat until after.
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Congrats to all who were accepted today.....if u don't mind,when were your interview dates?
 
Any one else interview in early Sept and not hear anything yet?
 
Ok so I got an interview invite for late March 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂. Applied late in the cycle, was complete by mid November so does anyone know how soon after your interview do you get an acceptance/rejection??

PS. Sorry if this was asked already I couldn't find it in the thread
 
So I received an interview invite from Einstein. The email says "Provide us with dates starting with march 19th." I dont know what that means. Can I pick any date, as long as its after march 19? Can I pick march 20? 21? 22? This doesnt make sense. Surely they cant hold interviews every day? How do I know what days they are holding interviews?
 
batista_123 said:
So I received an interview invite from Einstein. The email says "Provide us with dates starting with march 19th." I dont know what that means. Can I pick any date, as long as its after march 19? Can I pick march 20? 21? 22? This doesnt make sense. Surely they cant hold interviews every day? How do I know what days they are holding interviews?
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Yup, any week day. The interview day is very informal, do they don't need a lot of prep. Plus about 1500 interview, so I'm sure there's at least a few every day.
 
batista_123 said:
So I received an interview invite from Einstein. The email says "Provide us with dates starting with march 19th." I dont know what that means. Can I pick any date, as long as its after march 19? Can I pick march 20? 21? 22? This doesnt make sense. Surely they cant hold interviews every day? How do I know what days they are holding interviews?
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I'm pretty sure that's how that works. My invite said the same thing. I emailed back with several dates that week and they responded to confirm my first choice. Just don't choose a weekend (I think the invite mentions that too).
 
For those going to the Einstein accepted student dinner in Manhattan later this month: The invite says to bring family, would it be appropriate to bring my girlfriend? Seems like it but thought I'd ask others' opinions first.
 
Hey guys, i just got accepted yesterday! The famous email titled "einstein-save the date" haha...good luck to all in the process!
 
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