2011-2012 Mount Sinai Application Thread

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I love this school, but I haven't heard anything since I completed around 8/21. : (
 
Hey I read Mount Sinai's website about having to submit your recs through your schools committee if your school has one.

I definitely did not know that. I had my recs send in individual letters. Does anyone know how important it is to send the committee letter?

Thanks!
 
How did you all know you were complete? I got an Application Received email the day I submitted, but haven't heard anything since. Submitted 8/23. Thanks!
 
How did you all know you were complete? I got an Application Received email the day I submitted, but haven't heard anything since. Submitted 8/23. Thanks!

I had to call, they have Mondays and Wednesdays 2-4pm set aside for app status questions.
 
can we assign more than 2 letters of rec?
 
Hi everyone, has anyone attended an interview at Mount Sinai so far? I've just received an invite and I'm wondering what to expect.
 
Hey guys,

I am an MS1 at Sinai this year, and I hope to serve as a resource to applicants here because I know how frustrating it is when there is a lack of information and the ridiculous rumors that gets propagated by neurotic SDN-premeds sometimes. I noticed that some other threads are staffed by current students, and so I thought - why not?

I also love Sinai, and turned down better-ranked schools to come to Sinai last cycle. Seriously, this has got to be the most underrated school in the Top 20.

First of all, congrats to those who got an interview! I can tell you that interviews start this Wednesday, and will be held every weekday except Mondays till March. The brief breakdown in the day (if it is unchanged from last year) is that you will begin with a talk by the senior faculty (which is usually pretty awesome). Then, you will have a 2-hour window where you do your interviews of 30 minutes each. When you're not having interviews, current students (like us!) will cycle in and out of the room to talk to you guys. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have during that time. After your interviews are done, I think you go to lunch with current students + these students lead you on a tour of the school and the hospital. After that, I think there is a financial aid session or something like that. You will end around early/mid-afternoon.

Interviews are open-file, and are conducted by physicians and/or fourth year students (if I recall correctly).

To answer a question fielded previously, our affiliate hospitals are Mount Sinai Hospital, Mount Sinai Queens, Englewood (New Jersey), Atlantic Health Systems (New Jersey), Elmhurst (Queens, located in the "most diverse zip code in the US"), and the Bronx VA.

Good luck guys! Hope to see some of you here at interviews this year! : )
 
Been complete since 8/16 and haven't gotten an invite yet.

Because I stuck it to the man for the word limit. =O

There must be some weight in this... mine was one word over the limit as well. :laugh::laugh:
 
Hey guys,

I am an MS1 at Sinai this year, and I hope to serve as a resource to applicants here because I know how frustrating it is when there is a lack of information and the ridiculous rumors that gets propagated by neurotic SDN-premeds sometimes. I noticed that some other threads are staffed by current students, and so I thought - why not?

I also love Sinai, and turned down better-ranked schools to come to Sinai last cycle. Seriously, this has got to be the most underrated school in the Top 20.

First of all, congrats to those who got an interview! I can tell you that interviews start this Wednesday, and will be held every weekday except Mondays till March. The brief breakdown in the day (if it is unchanged from last year) is that you will begin with a talk by the senior faculty (which is usually pretty awesome). Then, you will have a 2-hour window where you do your interviews of 30 minutes each. When you're not having interviews, current students (like us!) will cycle in and out of the room to talk to you guys. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have during that time. After your interviews are done, I think you go to lunch with current students + these students lead you on a tour of the school and the hospital. After that, I think there is a financial aid session or something like that. You will end around early/mid-afternoon.

Interviews are open-file, and are conducted by physicians and/or fourth year students (if I recall correctly).

To answer a question fielded previously, our affiliate hospitals are Mount Sinai Hospital, Mount Sinai Queens, Englewood (New Jersey), Atlantic Health Systems (New Jersey), Elmhurst (Queens, located in the "most diverse zip code in the US"), and the Bronx VA.

Good luck guys! Hope to see some of you here at interviews this year! : )

Great reassurance and information, thank you! 🙂
 
whats the school culture like? any thoughts on sinai vs cornell or sinai vs. columbia for that matter?

I went through this last cycle. I'll also claim that my acceptance pattern was
Columbia:waitlisted
Sinai and Cornell: accepted
Matriculated: sinai M1 currently

So, columbia is the highest ranked in NYC, great school, loved it, location was the worst of the three though. I can't say much more cause i didn't actually get in, even though the dean told me I would... long story...

I chose sinai over cornell for a few reasons:

-Mainly, cornell, last year anyway, wasn't true pass/fail. Your transcript that residencies see is P/F, but they use your grades year 1 and 2 to internally rank you when time comes around for AOA and dean's letters.

-Sinai has a better location in my mind. You're ON central park and its awesome to go running eat lunch there, study there, etc. You're next to the 6 train so you can get anywhere you need. Cornell is 68th and the water... so you're closer downtown, but in the city, proximity to train matters more. oh yea, and if we go down you get upper east side food and restaurants, go north and you have east harlem cuisine which is essentially the entire world lol.

-both schools favor their own for residences, so cornell will bump you into presbyterian easier, and sinai will get you back into sinai. For me, i like cardio related stuff, so thats part of it

-sinai loves their students, we have no affiliated undergrad so its all about us. They make changes every year based on what we want. changes to the lounge, the classes, the activities, everything.

ALSO, your exams are honor code, you take them WHEREVER, WHENEVER, you want over the allotted time. (and people REALLY stick to the honor despite what people may say... think about it, its a bunch of really smart super nice kids, they have a fit if you even ask what you might need to know more)

oh yea, and your anatomy professor is Joy Reidenberg, who dissects everything with Richard Dawkins on "inside Natures Giants"

as far as cornell, i got a terrible vibe. the kids AND a professor there were arrogant about themselves, saying its a tough choice between them and columbia, but its no brainer between cornell and sinai... it seemed like a school based around its name, not its students.
 
I went through this last cycle. I'll also claim that my acceptance pattern was
Columbia:waitlisted
Sinai and Cornell: accepted
Matriculated: sinai M1 currently

So, columbia is the highest ranked in NYC, great school, loved it, location was the worst of the three though. I can't say much more cause i didn't actually get in, even though the dean told me I would... long story...

I chose sinai over cornell for a few reasons:

-Mainly, cornell, last year anyway, wasn't true pass/fail. Your transcript that residencies see is P/F, but they use your grades year 1 and 2 to internally rank you when time comes around for AOA and dean's letters.

-Sinai has a better location in my mind. You're ON central park and its awesome to go running eat lunch there, study there, etc. You're next to the 6 train so you can get anywhere you need. Cornell is 68th and the water... so you're closer downtown, but in the city, proximity to train matters more. oh yea, and if we go down you get upper east side food and restaurants, go north and you have east harlem cuisine which is essentially the entire world lol.

-both schools favor their own for residences, so cornell will bump you into presbyterian easier, and sinai will get you back into sinai. For me, i like cardio related stuff, so thats part of it

-sinai loves their students, we have no affiliated undergrad so its all about us. They make changes every year based on what we want. changes to the lounge, the classes, the activities, everything.

ALSO, your exams are honor code, you take them WHEREVER, WHENEVER, you want over the allotted time. (and people REALLY stick to the honor despite what people may say... think about it, its a bunch of really smart super nice kids, they have a fit if you even ask what you might need to know more)

oh yea, and your anatomy professor is Joy Reidenberg, who dissects everything with Richard Dawkins on "inside Natures Giants"

as far as cornell, i got a terrible vibe. the kids AND a professor there were arrogant about themselves, saying its a tough choice between them and columbia, but its no brainer between cornell and sinai... it seemed like a school based around its name, not its students.

OMG! That sounds perfect! This is for sure my ideal #1 school. This is exactly the type of environment that I am looking for. If only I could get in. :xf: Are you guys close to Broadway? I want to see Book of Mormon sooooo badly!!!!
 
OMG! That sounds perfect! This is for sure my ideal #1 school. This is exactly the type of environment that I am looking for. If only I could get in. :xf: Are you guys close to Broadway? I want to see Book of Mormon sooooo badly!!!!

we're on 98th street and Madison, so we're not close to the Broadway you're thinking of, no school is. but thats where being near the subway comes in handy. and book of mormon is sold out for MONTHS.... sorry. i want to see it as well...

also, i kinda realized i sounded like i was knocking cornell. Cornell was absolutely beautiful and has research out the wazoo from sloan and rockefeller. And they do PBL.

sinai is almost all lecture, with small group discussions for each class that usually discuss an associated illness (for example, in molec. cell, we had a small group dedicated to sickle cell anemia and we went over a patients results and then discussed the biochemistry behind what was going on and how it creates clinical health problems like clots, etc)
we're also building a new research center that'll be open next year or so bring a ton more research here.

Neither school is 'better': I just liked Sinai a ton more is all...
 
we're on 98th street and Madison, so we're not close to the Broadway you're thinking of, no school is. but thats where being near the subway comes in handy. and book of mormon is sold out for MONTHS.... sorry. i want to see it as well...

also, i kinda realized i sounded like i was knocking cornell. Cornell was absolutely beautiful and has research out the wazoo from sloan and rockefeller. And they do PBL.

sinai is almost all lecture, with small group discussions for each class that usually discuss an associated illness (for example, in molec. cell, we had a small group dedicated to sickle cell anemia and we went over a patients results and then discussed the biochemistry behind what was going on and how it creates clinical health problems like clots, etc)
we're also building a new research center that'll be open next year or so bring a ton more research here.

Neither school is 'better': I just liked Sinai a ton more is all...

Thanks for the insight. I'm itching to see BOM. I even wrote about Avenue Q in my primaries, which was written by the same guy who wrote BOM. I've wanted to see that musical since 2008...back when the working title was Mormon Musical. It's gonna be so good when I get to see it...eventually.

I definitely think that being next to the subway is a major advantage. Quick question though...is all parking valet? I heard some rumors that parking is all valet and that cars get all banged up in NY. Any truth to those rumors?
 
Thanks for the insight. I'm itching to see BOM. I even wrote about Avenue Q in my primaries, which was written by the same guy who wrote BOM. I've wanted to see that musical since 2008...back when the working title was Mormon Musical. It's gonna be so good when I get to see it...eventually.

I definitely think that being next to the subway is a major advantage. Quick question though...is all parking valet? I heard some rumors that parking is all valet and that cars get all banged up in NY. Any truth to those rumors?

Valet is like someone parks for you. Parking is mostly in parking garages in nyc, theres no room for cars on the street. At night you can find some spots and even then only park overnight. BUT, you're not going to have a car. Nobody does, and theres 0 need for a car in NYC. So it shouldn't matter to you.
 
Valet is like someone parks for you. Parking is mostly in parking garages in nyc, theres no room for cars on the street. At night you can find some spots and even then only park overnight. BUT, you're not going to have a car. Nobody does, and theres 0 need for a car in NYC. So it shouldn't matter to you.

I know there is no need for a car in NYC, but this new car just got unveiled at Frankfurt and I've been waiting for that car for about a full year now...in the worst case scenario, I'll just leave the car in Cali. These are all just minor details that can be hashed out later. Lemme get in first :xf: ....if I even get in...sigh...
 
BOM is great and now it's easier to get tickets. I laugh every time I think about it. you can take the number 6 right to 42nd street and its a short walk. You dont want to have a car. I live in the city and my mom has a car in the garage and it has so many nicks it looks like it has the measles. I would be happy to endure getting a root canal every week for a year to go to either mt sinai or cornell. I live near cornell and it's 8 blocks to the subway but when the 2nd ave subway happens, (2016) it will be great. Of course hopefully by then we will all have graduated from med shcool. The busses are handy gettin west. You can take the 66th right to lincoln center.
 
I can't promise that I'll be checking this often enough to be useful, but MS2 here that will also try to answer Qs.
 
wait just kidding. wrong school. embarrassing hahaha. yay! keep hope alive!!!
 
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I submitted my secondary on 9/2, and never got a 'complete' email. I called the office today and was told that my file is complete, and that I can check my status on the website. But on my website there is no way to actually check my status. They directed me to contact EMBARK help, which was just an email address- no actual phone number to talk to anyone.

Is anyone else having this issue? The woman on the phone couldn't answer how I would receive updates about my application status- hopefully there will be emails because I have no way of checking the website.:idea:
 
I submitted my secondary on 9/2, and never got a 'complete' email. I called the office today and was told that my file is complete, and that I can check my status on the website. But on my website there is no way to actually check my status. They directed me to contact EMBARK help, which was just an email address- no actual phone number to talk to anyone.

Is anyone else having this issue? The woman on the phone couldn't answer how I would receive updates about my application status- hopefully there will be emails because I have no way of checking the website.:idea:

I don't think that there is a status check on the Embark website. I submitted over a month ago and received 1 "submitted" email and 2 "received" emails. The "received" emails said the exact same thing. It seems like its just a waiting game to see if you get an interview or not.
 
i don't think that there is a status check on the embark website. I submitted over a month ago and received 1 "submitted" email and 2 "received" emails. The "received" emails said the exact same thing. It seems like its just a waiting game to see if you get an interview or not.
no status check!
 
Interview invite! So excited! It's one of my top choices, and I'm so close now that I am in East Harlem. Good luck everyone :luck:! I've been waiting for this one for a while so hang in there.
 
Hey Doodl3s, did you apply to the PORTAL program last cycle? If you did do you have any info on it? It seems like a great educational opportunity and financial one too.
 
Hey Doodl3s, did you apply to the PORTAL program last cycle? If you did do you have any info on it? It seems like a great educational opportunity and financial one too.

The PORTAL program is to gain a Masters in Clinical Research. It sounds nice, and I looked into it. I had a bit of clinical research and publications going in so I thought I would like it. First off, it's medical school, and you have to take extra classes while there. Then you do one year of research, a scholarly year, that you don't pay for. But it's really just you doing research... I'm not totally sure on stipends.

Also, I've spoken to the kids who are in. It's one of those things you did in college to do more, or 'honors' ya know? Theres not TOO many applications for it in the real world, other than knowing a little more about clinical research. I'm MS1, and already talking with a guy about getting a first authorship on clinical research, and i'm not in PORTAL....

AND, i believe you can still start the program in the first few weeks of classes once you're accepted if you're really nice to the director of it and talk with them. Either way, ask questions to the school about it.

tl,dr: I don't see a real use for it in the future...
 
The PORTAL program is to gain a Masters in Clinical Research. It sounds nice, and I looked into it. I had a bit of clinical research and publications going in so I thought I would like it. First off, it's medical school, and you have to take extra classes while there. Then you do one year of research, a scholarly year, that you don't pay for. But it's really just you doing research... I'm not totally sure on stipends.

Also, I've spoken to the kids who are in. It's one of those things you did in college to do more, or 'honors' ya know? Theres not TOO many applications for it in the real world, other than knowing a little more about clinical research. I'm MS1, and already talking with a guy about getting a first authorship on clinical research, and i'm not in PORTAL....

AND, i believe you can still start the program in the first few weeks of classes once you're accepted if you're really nice to the director of it and talk with them. Either way, ask questions to the school about it.

tl,dr: I don't see a real use for it in the future...

Just an aside, how hard is it to get an opportunity like this? Did you have to work hard to get it? And how long will the project take? I know how important research is for residency, so jw.
 
Just an aside, how hard is it to get an opportunity like this? Did you have to work hard to get it? And how long will the project take? I know how important research is for residency, so jw.

OMG, dude, let me say this. and EVERY student at sinai will tell you this:

they LOVE their students at Sinai. They have you rate every class you take and they make changes based on those critiques every year. They even replaced a professor for us because last year students all rated this person both boring and unable to convey the science... and there is no affiliated undergrad.

all this translates to, is that it is so easy to get research and shadow. If you ask prprestigious surgeons that you've never met by e-mail, they will say "sure thing, come in whenever"... and then when you ask "whats best for you", they go "what do you mean, tomorrow morning at 8..."

and we're building a new research building. Sinai is probably the best medical school with relations with its students.😍
 
when does the interview day end? whens the earliest i can book a return flight? and easiest airport to get to from mt sinai?
 
They even replaced a professor for us because last year students all rated this person both boring and unable to convey the science...

Who was it?

Also, to answer the interview question, you finish around 3pm I believe. The closest airport is LGA, which with no traffic is 15 min or less cab ride from the school, with a fare of about $20 including tip (when you're going, it will probably be closer to 30 mins and $25-30). If you're going to take public transit, LGA vs. JFK is a bit of a toss up. JFK is longer, more expensive (~$10) and more complicated (1hr15-1hr30, 3 different trains), but it's all trains so traffic isn't a concern. LGA can be just under 1hr, is cheaper ($2.25) and is just one train and one bus, but if traffic is bad, it could take just as long as JFK or maybe longer? You'll be leaving right at the very very beginning of rush hour, so I would probably still go with LGA.

Use 1468 Madison Ave as the address for Sinai in googlemaps if you want to check everything out yourself.
 
Also, to answer the interview question, you finish around 3pm I believe.

When I called to schedule and asked, they said it usually ends around 1:30p and rarely ends after 2:00p.
 
When I called to schedule and asked, they said it usually ends around 1:30p and rarely ends after 2:00p.

You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. There is lunch/tour of the student housing, library, and 1st year floor from 12-1, and then there's a tour of the clinical areas that follows immediately after, and, as you said, rarely goes past 2.
 
what flight time out of new york would work? 6:00pm safe?
 
what flight time out of new york would work? 6:00pm safe?
That sounds safe to me. If you take maximum margins and say the day ends at 2:30p, then you don't get to the airport until 4:00p, that still gets you there by the 2 hour check-in mark.
 
so is the subway/bus system pretty easy to figure out? (especially the bus part)
 
so is the subway/bus system pretty easy to figure out? (especially the bus part)

Where are you trying to go to? Only LGA requires the bus, and it's the M60 that you take on East 125th St. After your interview, head over to either the 103rd St. or the 96th St. station (both are on Lexington, the 103rd will be a bit closer if you're coming from the main building). Take the 6 train up to the 125th stop, and follow the signs for M60 LGA airport. The M60 is generally very reliable, and the 6 train comes often.

If you're going to JFK, you can be in the subway system the whole time. The subway ride is kind of long though.
 
Where are you trying to go to? Only LGA requires the bus, and it's the M60 that you take on East 125th St. After your interview, head over to either the 103rd St. or the 96th St. station (both are on Lexington, the 103rd will be a bit closer if you're coming from the main building). Take the 6 train up to the 125th stop, and follow the signs for M60 LGA airport. The M60 is generally very reliable, and the 6 train comes often.

If you're going to JFK, you can be in the subway system the whole time. The subway ride is kind of long though.

change of plans. headed to columbia after mt sinai.
 
Interview invite! Very excited about this school. Got the "received" e-mail back on 8/12
 
tuition free? like case western's CCLCM?
 
Interview Invite!! Definitely one of my top choices. I am really stoked for this!

I feel I am getting so lucky this cycle, this is the 3rd time my application has had ~ a 2week turn around. Complete on 9/19 and got an interview invite 10/3. If your wondering, California applicant, 3.67, 39R.
 
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btw.... After this I really don't think I'll be able to afford another trip to NY, but I'm still waiting to hear from 4 other schools there (SUNY Downstate, Columbia, NYMC, Einstein). I submitted my apps for all of these fairly recently tho, anyone know how these schools feel about in the area interviews? My interview with Sinai isn't until Nov. 3rd so hopefully that gives more time for schools to check out my app.
 
btw.... After this I really don't think I'll be able to afford another trip to NY, but I'm still waiting to hear from 4 other schools there (SUNY Downstate, Columbia, NYMC, Einstein). I submitted my apps for all of these fairly recently tho, anyone know how these schools feel about in the area interviews? My interview with Sinai isn't until Nov. 3rd so hopefully that gives more time for schools to check out my app.

I sent SUNY Downstate an in-the-area email and they responded a few days later with an interview invite. Not sure about the rest of the schools though.
 
I have a problem because I have not heard anything from Mt. Sinai but I want to go back to where I live which is outside of the US. When I leave the US, probably in November, I will not come back for any additional interviews because it is just too far.

If I leave I think I will have to withdraw my application from all the schools I have not heard from. I would too sad to get an interview after I left.

I got the application complete email from Mt. Sinai on August 18th. I also sent them an update recently saying that I will be leaving so if they want to interview me it would be best to know now. I got no response at all 🙁. Don't they usually respond to those? At least to say it was put in my file.

Do people ever get interview invites long after they were complete? Is there any chance I will leave and then get an invite?
 
Interview Invite! So excited. As a nyc resident this is a dream.
 
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