2012-2013 University of Colorado Application Thread

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music2doc said:
Elections are in November. 😉
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Colorado matters, too. In-staters must ask whether they wish to follow California into the fiscal abyss. You, dear reader, can be the deciding vote...for the state, for the nation, for the world!

:: fireworks ::
 
music2doc said:
Elections are in November. 😉
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This isn't about elections. This is an ideological issue. CU is the only medical school in the state, it's very existence is predicated on creating physicians for the state of Colorado not on raising money by the truckloads. Sending high caliber IS students OOS and accepting OOS students who are less likely to stay in CO is not how you accomplish this.
 
init2winit said:
Does anyone know the timeline at this school? At one point I think CU was turning things around in 2-3 weeks. I've yet to receive an II and I've been complete for several weeks. I am OOS and my stats are not top-notch...wondering if the rejection is coming (though I have yet to see rejections on this thread?)
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I received an interview last Friday with <3.8 GPA and <32 MCAT. I'm also OOS, so you definitely have a shot. It's not all about numbers. 🙂
 
AlltheAbove said:
I received an interview last Friday with <3.8 GPA and <32 MCAT. I'm also OOS, so you definitely have a shot. It's not all about numbers. 🙂
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Thanks for the post/information 🙂 When were you complete?
 
LOVE this school - just waiting for an II. OOS student, but spent 6 six in Colorado working as an EMT in an ER and teaching EMS courses at a college. Really,really love the Urban Track. This is the school that will break my heart if I don't at least get an II.
 
I'm taking another math course this semester just so I would be eligible here. No love from them though 🙁
 
Interview invite just now!! May have to reschedule for a later date than 10/29 though...
 
annonymous819 said:
This isn't about elections. This is an ideological issue. CU is the only medical school in the state, it's very existence is predicated on creating physicians for the state of Colorado not on raising money by the truckloads. Sending high caliber IS students OOS and accepting OOS students who are less likely to stay in CO is not how you accomplish this.
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>isn't about elections

>in a thread for a publicly funded state school

Pretty sure ideological issues are what people (hopefully) vote on in elections. You want to make sure the school has enough funding so that it doesn't have to rely on the extra money from OOS students? Then vote accordingly.

Pro tip: One party places a higher priority on education spending.
 
Question for a current medical school student. Do you know of any international students, especially non canadian, in your class? Would like to know if colorado is open to applications from this group. Thanks!
 
Member 999999 said:
>isn't about elections

>in a thread for a publicly funded state school

Pretty sure ideological issues are what people (hopefully) vote on in elections. You want to make sure the school has enough funding so that it doesn't have to rely on the extra money from OOS students? Then vote accordingly.

Pro tip: One party places a higher priority on education spending.
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Pretty shallow analysis, doncha think, old chap?

Higher education is in a bit of an existential crisis right meow, trying to sort out whether it wants to be populist or elitist (pro tip: can't be both).

If we do pursue both, simple economics dictates that tuition costs will continue to rise and rise and school budget margins will continue to get slimmer and slimmer. Making easy money available to people to get an increasingly worthless degree that won't allow them to get a job to pay back the easy money sounds insane to me, but the demagogues will keep spouting off the ole "we put a higher priority on education spending" line. Then one starts to look at who might be benefitting from this setup...
 
It's not a shallow analysis at all, actually. One of the key ideological gaps between the two major political parties is whether such funding should come from public or private sources. I'm sorry if you're confusing basic with shallow. With lack of public funds, free market forces take over (accepting more OOS students at higher tuition rates, and actually raising tuition costs for all students). It is literally a Keynesian vs Friedman situation. I'm not touting the superiority of one over the other, as you are suggesting I am, I'm just stating facts.

Also, your populist vs elitist assessment of higher education is a false dichotomy. It's absurd for some simple reasons:

-Populism/Elitism falls on a spectrum. It's not an either/or situation.

-You lump ALL institutions of higher education into one bloc. How can "higher education" be in an existential crisis if it is composed of thousands of different schools all with different missions, serving different demographics with different expenses, enrollment, tuition rates, and available public funds. But sure, somehow they're all in the same boat.

Just out of curiosity, please explain how "simple economics" would dictate that tuition costs would continue to rise. I do not follow. Also, your argument that easy money makes for an increasingly worthless degree doesn't make any sense either. From what I understand, medical tuition in Germany is completely subsidized by the state, yet they still are able to produce well-trained physicians.

And the "we put a higher priority on education spending" is not just a line, as you state. There is actual legislation passed, allocating actual dollars to higher education. The overwhelming majority of such legislation is proposed by one party. Again, facts.

Hopefully this analysis was a little less "shallow."
 
Member 999999 said:
It's not a shallow analysis at all, actually. One of the key ideological gaps between the two major political parties is whether such funding should come from public or private sources. I'm sorry if you're confusing basic with shallow. With lack of public funds, free market forces take over (accepting more OOS students at higher tuition rates, and actually raising tuition costs for all students). It is literally a Keynesian vs Friedman situation. I'm not touting the superiority of one over the other, as you are suggesting I am, I'm just stating facts.

Also, your populist vs elitist assessment of higher education is a false dichotomy. It's absurd for some simple reasons:

-Populism/Elitism falls on a spectrum. It's not an either/or situation.

-You lump ALL institutions of higher education into one bloc. How can "higher education" be in an existential crisis if it is composed of thousands of different schools all with different missions, serving different demographics with different expenses, enrollment, tuition rates, and available public funds. But sure, somehow they're all in the same boat.

Just out of curiosity, please explain how “simple economics” would dictate that tuition costs would continue to rise. I do not follow. Also, your argument that easy money makes for an increasingly worthless degree doesn’t make any sense either. From what I understand, medical tuition in Germany is completely subsidized by the state, yet they still are able to produce well-trained physicians.

And the “we put a higher priority on education spending” is not just a line, as you state. There is actual legislation passed, allocating actual dollars to higher education. The overwhelming majority of such legislation is proposed by one party. Again, facts.

Hopefully this analysis was a little less "shallow."
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I would prefer not to get into a raging political debate over the internet; it is never productive.

My point is that CU is a state school which accepts tax payer dollars to educate the citizens of Colorado. If they want to pursue the profit motive, go for it, free market ftw. But don't accept tax payer dollars to educate Colorado citizens and then abandon that mission to chase truckloads of cash from OOS kids.
 
Do tell, in which way have I made this a political debate? I don't believe I have, as I restricted my post to simple facts regarding each party's approach to education funding. I made no statements regarding the superiority of one ideology over the other, you are free to decide for yourself which method you think is most effective.

Unfortunately you're also falling prey to a false dichotomy. It's not "accept tax payer dollars to educate Colorado citizens" vs "don't accept tax payer dollars and educate OOS students." Again, it is a spectrum. CUSOM, as with all state medical schools, probably will never accept 100% IS or 100% OOS students. The balance of IS vs OOS acceptances is directly related to the amount of public funds available. Greater public funding allows for a higher percentage of IS acceptances or lower tuition rates for IS students, or some combination of the two.

You say you want higher IS acceptances. This most practical way to achieve that goal is by increasing public funding to the school. There is nowhere else that money can come from, unless you would rather raise tuition rates on IS students. The Democratic Party platform proposes increased education spending, while the Republican Party platform calls for public spending cuts. Again, (and I cannot stress this enough apparently) it's not good vs evil, it's different ideologies. These are the publicly stated positions of each party, not my own.

Also your statement that the school intends to "abandon that mission to chase truckloads of cash" is a gross exaggeration. In what way is cutting in-state acceptance from 70% to 60% "abandoning" the mission to educate doctors for Colorado? 60% may not be ideal, but it is still a significant contribution to educating physicians for Colorado.

In short, you get what you pay for.
 
Starting to feel a bit anxious here... IS, 3.9, 34T and I submitted the secondary the first day it was available. I haven't heard a peep and I'm starting to feel worried. I thought I'd have a very comfortable shot but now I'm very anxious. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm almost tempted to contact admissions but I know that's probably not the right course of action (not to mention it would be very presumptuous).
 
Question for those who have already received II, is there any reason to check the status page after it says your file is complete? I mean, will there be a line stating that you were invited for interview or does that info come solely through email?
 
Wassupboy said:
Question for a current medical school student. Do you know of any international students, especially non canadian, in your class? Would like to know if colorado is open to applications from this group. Thanks!
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Everyone who I know of (I'm an M1) that was born outside the US has lived in the States since childhood so is probably a citizen or permanent resident. I could be wrong, but I don't know specifically of any international students--not even Canadians.
 
TheMightySmiter said:
Everyone who I know of (I'm an M1) that was born outside the US has lived in the States since childhood so is probably a citizen or permanent resident. I could be wrong, but I don't know specifically of any international students--not even Canadians.
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Shucks to hear that. I guess bright side is I save on secondary fees. Thanks for answering
 
Starting to feel a bit anxious here... IS, 3.9, 34T and I submitted the secondary the first day it was available. I haven't heard a peep and I'm starting to feel worried. I thought I'd have a very comfortable shot but now I'm very anxious. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm almost tempted to contact admissions but I know that's probably not the right course of action (not to mention it would be very presumptuous).
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I'm in the exact same boat. Similar stats, in state, and I've heard nothing. I was going to wait a little longer to start bugging admissions, just be patient and wait it out. But if you do end up contacting them, let us know what they say!
 
Jas1360 said:
Question for those who have already received II, is there any reason to check the status page after it says your file is complete? I mean, will there be a line stating that you were invited for interview or does that info come solely through email?
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The status page does get updated with the II. I didn't notice the timing relative to the email though.
 
hmoactktey said:
I'm in the exact same boat. Similar stats, in state, and I've heard nothing. I was going to wait a little longer to start bugging admissions, just be patient and wait it out. But if you do end up contacting them, let us know what they say!
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Last year I was complete in late August and received an interview invite in mid-November. I was starting to freak! But they seem to interview OOS students heavily for the first couple months. Don't despair! Bugging the admissions office probably won't help much, they don't have many people and likely will not give you any info. Just be patient; I know it sucks, I was in this exact boat last year.
 
Jas1360 said:
Question for those who have already received II, is there any reason to check the status page after it says your file is complete? I mean, will there be a line stating that you were invited for interview or does that info come solely through email?
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The adcom gives you another login page to confirm, reschedule, or withdraw your interview in addition to the secondary page update.
 
does this school silent reject? how long the time frame between secondary submitted and interview invite? been complete since early August, but heard nothing...
 
Member 999999 said:
It's not a shallow analysis at all, actually. One of the key ideological gaps between the two major political parties is whether such funding should come from public or private sources. I'm sorry if you're confusing basic with shallow. With lack of public funds, free market forces take over (accepting more OOS students at higher tuition rates, and actually raising tuition costs for all students). It is literally a Keynesian vs Friedman situation. I'm not touting the superiority of one over the other, as you are suggesting I am, I'm just stating facts.

Also, your populist vs elitist assessment of higher education is a false dichotomy. It's absurd for some simple reasons:

-Populism/Elitism falls on a spectrum. It's not an either/or situation.

-You lump ALL institutions of higher education into one bloc. How can "higher education" be in an existential crisis if it is composed of thousands of different schools all with different missions, serving different demographics with different expenses, enrollment, tuition rates, and available public funds. But sure, somehow they're all in the same boat.

Just out of curiosity, please explain how "simple economics" would dictate that tuition costs would continue to rise. I do not follow. Also, your argument that easy money makes for an increasingly worthless degree doesn't make any sense either. From what I understand, medical tuition in Germany is completely subsidized by the state, yet they still are able to produce well-trained physicians.

And the "we put a higher priority on education spending" is not just a line, as you state. There is actual legislation passed, allocating actual dollars to higher education. The overwhelming majority of such legislation is proposed by one party. Again, facts.

Hopefully this analysis was a little less "shallow."
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Oh goodness. You have three posts and they're all pertaining to this topic, so I'm wary of walking into the potential buzz saw of an education policy wonk.

It's undoubtably an involved debate--higher education in this country--and I'm down to throw in my two cents, but I dunno if this thread is the most auspicious place for it. Who knows, tho? Sounds like the convo is important for CUSOM's decision-process and I'm sure there are a lot of informed people who could weigh in on the matter.

If not, we can go with private messages 😉

OW! OW!
 
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.oops...I forgot how to use this site. Please forgive me!
But now that I've posted...I'm an MSII in the CU UNITE (urban underserved track)...let me know if you have any questions!
 
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Sorry if this has been asked before, does anyone know if they are receptive to in the area emails?
 
I'm sick of hearing about how great this school is at my other interviews, so I threw a Hail Mary and added this school to my AMCAS today.
 
Aaahhhhhhhh just got an II here! It's my first one and I'm dying of relief! Good to know my home state loves me back 🙂
 
Laurlaur said:
Aaahhhhhhhh just got an II here! It's my first one and I'm dying of relief! Good to know my home state loves me back 🙂
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Same here got my first II too, My secondary was submitted on 8/11.
Such a relief to finally hear back from somewhere!!!😀😀😀
if anyone is interested here are my stats
IS, cGPA 3.8, sGPA 3.94, MCAT Ver 10, PHY 10, BIO 11, strong ECs
 
Big, big congrats! Lots of good thoughts sent your way - along with a little jealousy 🙂 All in good nature! Best of luck to you!!!!
 
Thank you! Best of luck to both of you too 🙂 my interview date is in mid-November so there's still plenty of time it would seem.
 
Laurlaur said:
Thank you! Best of luck to both of you too 🙂 my interview date is in mid-November so there's still plenty of time it would seem.
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My interview date is mid-November too! Any chance you'll be interviewing on 11/17?
 
got ii today for 10/29 🙂 home state showing me some love! submitted secondary on 10/02. Good luck everyone!

when does CU-SOM send out notifications for the first batch of acceptances?
 
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StrikeX2 said:
got ii today for 10/29 🙂 home state showing me some love! submitted secondary on 10/02. Good luck everyone!

when does CU-SOM send out notifications for the first batch of acceptances?
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Last year, they sent out about 10-15% of acceptances at random points during the application cycle. The rest they'll do in early March.
 
TheMightySmiter said:
No, they really don't accept any updates whatsoever.
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You can bring an update to your interview, however, and it will be considered with your application when it is reviewed by the admissions committee post-interview.
 
You can bring an update to your interview, however, and it will be considered with your application when it is reviewed by the admissions committee post-interview.
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They're really not open to updates. I brought an updated transcript (showing completion and grades for two recent classes) to share with my interviewers and neither would take it.

I have some strong ties to CO and on their secondary they didn't ask about ties. I guess it is a non-factor in add missions.
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Unfortunately, ties are a non-factor. The good news for you is that they are accepting a greater percentage of OOS applicants than ever before.
 
LingoLaine said:
They're really not open to updates. I brought an updated transcript (showing completion and grades for two recent classes) to share with my interviewers and neither would take it.



Unfortunately, ties are a non-factor. The good news for you is that they are accepting a greater percentage of OOS applicants than ever before.
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They will accept things at the interview, although I don't think they add them to your file. I know I gave my interviewers copies of my work at CUSOM last year and they took it. A transcript, though, probably doesn't add much of anything to a person's file at that point since the chance it would change your GPA at all (unless in a downward fashion) is pretty much zero.
 
Hey has anyone who interviewed 10/5 or later, heard anything?
 
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