2013-2014 University of Michigan Application Thread

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Really don't think this is true. I didn't get asked this by any of my interviewers nor did I hear about anyone else being asked this. You must have just gotten unlucky to have 3 interviewers to ask you this. Michigan knows that people will attend Harvard, UCSF, Hopkins, UPenn over them. That's why they offer full tuition scholarships to those who get accepted to schools like that.

On the other hand what if you do get asked what your top choice school is? Say you're dating some girl and she asks you "am I your top choice for a girlfriend?" What do you think will happen if you say "no, some other girl is"? You answer the question by saying Michigan, if it is indeed your top choice. If it isn't, then you can say something like oh it's definitely one of my top choices and then you can explain why (i.e. the things Michigan has to offer) and that kind of answer would make you look so much better.

👍 I imagine interviewers ask that question to gauge interest, so I was planning on a verbal version of the generic "Why X?" prompt. Of course, I'd need an II first before being able to do any of that :laugh:
 
Really don't think this is true. I didn't get asked this by any of my interviewers nor did I hear about anyone else being asked this. You must have just gotten unlucky to have 3 interviewers to ask you this. Michigan knows that people will attend Harvard, UCSF, Hopkins, UPenn over them. That's why they offer full tuition scholarships to those who get accepted to schools like that.

On the other hand what if you do get asked what your top choice school is? Say you're dating some girl and she asks you "am I your top choice for a girlfriend?" What do you think will happen if you say "no, some other girl is"? You answer the question by saying Michigan, if it is indeed your top choice. If it isn't, then you can say something like oh it's definitely one of my top choices and then you can explain why (i.e. the things Michigan has to offer) and that kind of answer would make you look so much better.

This times 100.

I was never asked if Michigan was my number one choice.
 
To all of those who have scheduled an interview: have you had any difficulty submitting your HIPPA certificate? I did not know what to write when it asked for my UMID.
 
OHMYGOODNESS Interview Invite via status change this morning!! Michigan tweeted they're sending out today "bonus IIs" so I checked and IT WAS THERE!! :soexcited:

I don't have my committee letter packet in yet, so I guess they look at applications once secondaries are complete! AHHH!!!

EDIT: it looks like my letter came in this morning, so nevermind about the above comment; but they must review applications beforehand because that was a really quick turnaround if they don't do that..
RE-EDIT: yeah..so when you're delirious from excitement, you tend to see things, hahah. So Michigan doesn't have my letters; they haven't been sent yet. I just saw the heading of "Letters of Recommendation received via AMCAS " and missed the circle underneath that said it hadn't been received. Oops!
 
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OHMYGOODNESS Interview Invite via status change this morning!! Michigan tweeted they're sending out today "bonus IIs" so I checked and IT WAS THERE!! :soexcited:

I don't have my committee letter packet in yet, so I guess they look at applications once secondaries are complete! AHHH!!!

EDIT: it looks like my letter came in this morning, so nevermind about the above comment; but they must review applications beforehand because that was a really quick turnaround if they don't do that..

They send interview invites based on the primary app. I got an II without sending in my secondary....still gotta do that haha. Congrats though! When are you going?
 
Congrats!!! What options did they give you for interview dates? I'm curious how far out they are, since it looks like the 9/6 day is already full.

And I haven't submitted HIPAA yet
 
They send interview invites based on the primary app. I got an II without sending in my secondary....still gotta do that haha. Congrats though! When are you going?

I signed up for the 13th! 😀 That was the earliest of the three consecutive Fridays offered
 
To all of those who have scheduled an interview: have you had any difficulty submitting your HIPPA certificate? I did not know what to write when it asked for my UMID.

You can just leave the field blank, according to one of my friends (incoming med student who did not have a UM ID).
 
You can just leave the field blank, according to one of my friends (incoming med student who did not have a UM ID).
Thanks for the quick reply! Do you just email it to them after filling it out?
 
To all of those who have scheduled an interview: have you had any difficulty submitting your HIPPA certificate? I did not know what to write when it asked for my UMID.

Is there anything that needs to be sent besides the HIPAA certificate before the interview?
 
Yep!



On the status page it also says "MIC Received" but I'm not sure what this is...

I was also unsure of what that was? Also is the hosting site working for anyone? Its telling me that there are no hosts available 🙁

EDIT: Their interview site clarifies what MIC is:
" Log on to your status page to see what is required BEFORE you come to Ann Arbor. You will need to provide a HIPAA certificate, photo, secondary, LORS and complete the Michigan Interview Confirmation (MIC) form. The MIC will not appear on your status page until 30 days before your interview. This is your final confirmation that you are coming to interview at Michigan!"
 
Another Friday the 13th person! See you there and congrats!

Damn everyone at these first few Michigan interviews have killer stats, but only 2/3rds of us will get an outright acceptance, the rest waitlisted. I quit.
 
I was also unsure of what that was? Also is the hosting site working for anyone? Its telling me that there are no hosts available 🙁
Here's an email I got after inquiring about MIC:

Hi ____,

You may have noticed a message stating "There was an error registering you to take the Michigan Interview Confirmation". However, you are not yet required to complete the MIC. We are currently investigating why this error message is being displayed.

Normally, the Michigan Interview Confirmation link does not appear until one month prior to your scheduled interview date. Your scheduled interview date does not fall within this window. Once active, a new row with the MIC link will be displayed on the 'Home/Status' tab within the Admissions web application.

Thanks,

Andy Vella
 
OHMYGOODNESS Interview Invite via status change this morning!! Michigan tweeted they're sending out today "bonus IIs" so I checked and IT WAS THERE!! :soexcited:

I don't have my committee letter packet in yet, so I guess they look at applications once secondaries are complete! AHHH!!!

EDIT: it looks like my letter came in this morning, so nevermind about the above comment; but they must review applications beforehand because that was a really quick turnaround if they don't do that..

Ahhh! "Bonus II" for me this morning via status change too! So so excited.
 
Damn everyone at these first few Michigan interviews have killer stats, but only 2/3rds of us will get an outright acceptance, the rest waitlisted. I quit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those amazing odds!? You essentially have a 67% shot at being accepted while most other top 10 schools interview way more applicants so your post-interview odds are MUCH lower there (ex, Columbia, Harvard, etc).

Still never-racking, but I'd take these odds over the other schools any day 🙂
 
heads up to some of you guys: I had my secondary and letters in last weekend and wasn't marked complete due to a letter that I had assigned as "no longer sending" on my AMCAS. Called the Admissions Office yesterday and they said that they would get make sure to straighten everything out. My status is now complete.
 
:laugh: 👍 Per Michigan's twitter feed :

SDN-Typically not a good place for sound advice, i.e.-we will not ask you to rank your med schools-interview well and wide-options!
 
Oh my goodness. :laugh: I love U Mich's AdCom. 😍

Also ...

I LOVE YOU, U MICH! I'D LIKE AN II. PM FOR MY ACMAS ID!!!

😛

LOLLL A for Effort my friend!
and yeah, UMich AdCom is the best damn
 
Congrats to those who got invites!

I'm a prior applicant (who just finished year 1 elsewhere), here to give what I honestly believe to be an absolutely crucial piece of advice for everyone who ends up interviewing here. And that advice is: BE PREPARED TO TELL MICHIGAN THAT THEY ARE YOUR #1 CHOICE. Sorry for the caps, but it's that important.

I was in-state for Michigan. I went to Michigan undergrad. My stats were top-tier quality, and I had all the sexy ECs. I got an auto-invite! (I also went on to interview at 4 other top-tier schools.) All 3 of my interviews at Michigan seriously went extremely well...

Despite all of those details being strongly in my favor, I was left to bleed out on the wait list for the duration of the cycle. Looking back, I believe there was only one point on which I could have been viewed as being less than an optimal choice for Michigan, and because that point is one that was clearly of the utmost importance to them, I am led to believe that it is the primary reason I was not accepted.

Obviously that reason is that when I was asked what my top choice is, I evidently didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. My approach, I am ashamed to say, was to actually be honest, if you can believe that. I mean, who wouldn't go to Harvard if they got in? And if you take the time and money to apply to a school, and accept their invitation to interview, isn't it quite obvious that you are very interested in attending? I thought that honesty would be the best policy in interviews, and that interviewers would have to respect that, but I was wrong in Michigan's case at least.

Anyway, what will happen during your interview is that all 3 interviewers will without fail ask you what school is your top choice (they have a work sheet to fill out), and if they are like my interviewers, they will already assume that your answer is going to be Michigan (Michigan's motto is that they are the 'leaders and best,' and I can't even count how many times the admin told us that during his presentation). They are doing you dirty here, folks, because if you would choose to go to the number 1 school in the nation over the number 10 school in the nation if given the choice, there is no right answer for you - either you lie, or you keep a clean conscience and hope you get in elsewhere.

So when they ask you where you want to go (they WILL ask you), tell them what they need you to say, and give them convincing reasons. The only other advice I would give for Michigan's interview is to hang around and chat for a long time at the end of the day (they'll have soda and desserts set up for everyone). It seems very informal, and a number of people will leave immediately, but you are certainly being critiqued even at this point - so hang around, chat with other applicants, chat with students if they are around, and definitely chat with the admin.

Alright, that's all I have to say. Good luck with the whole process, everyone, I hope you all get into your top choices!

Rising M2 here. I was really surprised and sorry to read about your experience. I hope that you're in a great place at your current school. The admissions process can be so confusing and random - there's probably no perfect method of reviewing several thousand applicants and select the "best" 350. If the process were repeated, the group of accepted students would probably be different every time.

Personally, no one asked me what my top choice while I was interviewing at Michigan or anywhere else. Many schools asked me things like "why do you think school X would be a good fit for you?" - this is a different question and I see it as a fair one. I don't recall whether anyone at Michigan asked, but if they had, I would have had a thorough answer prepared. That was my approach for every med school interview.

As for informal mingling sessions, I participated during M1 year and my understanding is that the goal is for applicants to get to know Michigan better and have plenty of opportunities to ask questions of current students. No one ever asked me to report on applicants after these sessions and I've never heard of anything like that. On the flip side, if an applicant said something seriously concerning or offensive (such as racism, severe rudeness/hostility, etc.), I would report that info to admissions of my own volition. I wouldn't try to trap anyone into saying something terrible, I'd just notice it if they did. Thankfully I've never had something like that happen.

So my advice to applicants would be to stick around for the end-of-the-day session if you find it helpful, otherwise feel free to head out. We hope that the interview day is fun, but we know it can also be quite tiring!
 
I signed up for the 13th! 😀 That was the earliest of the three consecutive Fridays offered

Will also be there on the 13th! I've heard amazing things about Ann Arbor!
 
Got an II today! I haven't even started my secondary yet and no letters yet as well.. I am OOS/3.9/39 and I think my ECs are pretty good. Still can't believe it though! Signed up for the 13th. What an honor!
 
Evidently others on this thread interviewed at Michigan and were not asked what their top choice school was, so my situation will not likely be experienced by all who interview here this year. However, the fact that it happened to me means that it will surely happen to others, and it is certain to happen at other schools too. With that said, you applicants need to be prepared to answer that question before every interview, and obviously your answer needs to enhance your interviewer's impression of you.

If you give an honest answer, and say that your dream school is elsewhere (though you would LOVE to attend their school, it's definitely a top choice, it would be a perfect fit because X, blah blah blah...), it will likely hurt you in the interviewer's eyes, because you would prefer another school to the one they are so proud of, and would even REJECT their school in the best case scenario; and if it doesn't hurt you, it at least doesn't help you, because while others are scoring bonus points, and improving the light in which they are viewed by their interviewers, you are falling on your sword for the sake of honesty, and a pipe dream that even you know will almost certainly never come true (if your top choice is Harvard, for example).

At the most basic level, I believe it to be an egregiously unfair question to ask an applicant, because whether purposeful or unconscious, it is impossible for an interviewer, and the eventual room full of adcoms who will decide your fate, to look at your application without some degree of prejudice if you would reject their school for another if given the chance. They are playing a game with you when they ask that question, whether they know it or not, and so you need to play it right back; you worked too hard for all those years to allow them to unfairly discriminate against you on the basis of a simple preference, which will most likely prove inconsequential, rather than solely consider the GPA, MCAT score, and publications (or whatever your achievements are) for which you bled so much to earn.

I realize that this is a very cynical perspective, but it will in no way compare with your level of cynicism if you answer the question honestly and end up with nowhere to matriculate at the end of the cycle. I should also say that I do NOT favor an 'all is permitted' approach to the application process; for example, I believe it would be highly unethical to tell multiple schools that they are your number one choice in your secondaries or update letters, and it should go without saying that you should never lie about or embellish your achievements at any point. In this specific case only would I advise applicants to give a dishonest answer, simply because they are being asked a dishonest question. This goes for all schools obviously, not just Michigan, and I don't mean to bad mouth Michigan either (one or two other schools asked me the same question) - I only share my opinion here because I would hate for any worthy applicant to put him/herself at an unfair disadvantage, and feel like they've screwed up the rest of their life if they don't get in anywhere (because that's what it will feel like).
 
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Evidently others on this thread interviewed at Michigan and were not asked what their top choice school was, so my situation will not likely be experienced by all who interview here this year. However, the fact that it happened to me means that it will surely happen to others, and it is certain to happen at other schools too. With that said, you applicants need to be prepared to answer that question before every interview, and obviously your answer needs to enhance your interviewer's impression of you.

If you give an honest answer, and say that your dream school is elsewhere (though you would LOVE to attend their school, it's definitely a top choice, it would be a perfect fit because X, blah blah blah...), it will likely hurt you in the interviewer's eyes, because you would prefer another school to the one they are so proud of, and would even REJECT their school in the best case scenario; and if it doesn't hurt you, it at least doesn't help you, because while others are scoring bonus points, and improving the light in which they are viewed by their interviewers, you are falling on your sword for the sake of honesty, and a pipe dream that even you know will almost certainly never come true (if your top choice is Harvard, for example).

At the most basic level, I believe it to be an egregiously unfair question to ask an applicant, because whether purposeful or unconscious, it is impossible for an interviewer, and the eventual room full of adcoms who will decide your fate, to look at your application without some degree of prejudice if you would reject their school for another if given the chance. They are playing a game with you when they ask that question, whether they know it or not, and so you need to play it right back; you worked too hard for all those years to allow them to unfairly discriminate against you on the basis of a simple preference, which will most likely prove inconsequential, rather than solely consider the GPA, MCAT score, and publications (or whatever your achievements are) for which you bled so much to earn.

I realize that this is a very cynical perspective, but it will in no way compare with your level of cynicism if you answer the question honestly and end up with nowhere to matriculate at the end of the cycle. I should also say that I do NOT favor an 'all is permitted' approach to the application process; for example, I believe it would be highly unethical to tell multiple schools that they are your number one choice in your secondaries or update letters, and it should go without saying that you should never lie about or embellish your achievements at any point. In this specific case only would I advise applicants to give a dishonest answer, simply because they are being asked a dishonest question. This goes for all schools obviously, not just Michigan, and I don't mean to bad mouth Michigan either (one or two other schools asked me the same question) - I only share my opinion here because I would hate for any worthy applicant to put him/herself at an unfair disadvantage, and feel like they've screwed up the rest of their life if they don't get in anywhere (because that's what it will feel like).

I believe you had that experience and am sorry, but I just love how the admissions twitter called you out.
 
Complete yesterday and got an II this afternoon! First II of the cycle for me and I'm somewhere between excited and super nervous lol. Can't wait to see what Ann Arbor has to offer 😀

*Edit* After checking the Twitter feed, I discovered that I, too, am one of the lucky Bonus II's! Anybody else here choose the 20th?
 
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Sidenote: 😕 at the ratio between SDNers reporting 10:10 Tuesday/3:33 Thursday IIs this week versus bonus Friday IIs today. Maybe they forgot the actually send out the invites yesterday and decided to call it bonus Friday?? :laugh:
 
Anyone know how they offer interviews without complete files? I have pretty high stats (3.92, 40 mcat) and I've been complete for over a week.
 
I believe you had that experience and am sorry, but I just love how the admissions twitter called you out.

For those who have not seen it, the Michigan admissions Twitter account tweeted the following: "SDN-Typically not a good place for sound advice, i.e.-we will not ask you to rank your med schools-interview well and wide-options!"

I fully expected them to comment, because they have referenced SDN in the past. What's funny though is how ironically wrong the tweet is (grammar aside) - they claim that SDN is a poor source of information, and proceed to tell you they will not have you rank your schools, which is exactly what every single one of my interviewers did. They might tweet more accurately in this case: "Michigan admissions - not a great place for sound advice."

But honestly, I would take them at their word and expect that this infamous question will not be on their worksheets, though it is highly likely at any school that an interviewer will ask it of their own accord.
 
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it's hard to say whether or not that specific answer precluded you from attending Michigan, or if it was something else altogether - but you certainly believe it to be so, so let's take it at face value. it's neither wrong nor right that they asked you that question (schools have an interest in accepting students who are excited to attend and who can boost their yield, but it's also kind of a dodgy question), but the point is, how you answered that question is incredibly important. you can say, for instance, "out of respect for the other schools, i'm not going to precisely rank them or even state definitively that i have a ranking, but i'll just say that Michigan is absolutely one of my favorite schools - I love the [insert specific details here, here, and here] - and would be honored to have the opportunity to attend." you can show your interest in the school without having to declare that it's your top pick (who really knows at that point anyways?).

finesse in these interpersonal situations will get you pretty far, and i'm sure we'll have to do it a lot as doctors.
 
Sidenote: 😕 at the ratio between SDNers reporting 10:10 Tuesday/3:33 Thursday IIs this week versus bonus Friday IIs today. Maybe they forgot the actually send out the invites yesterday and decided to call it bonus Friday?? :laugh:

Hahah that's what I was thinking! On a side note, anyone interviewing on the 27th?
 
it's hard to say whether or not that specific answer precluded you from attending Michigan, or if it was something else altogether - but you certainly believe it to be so, so let's take it at face value. it's neither wrong nor right that they asked you that question (schools have an interest in accepting students who are excited to attend and who can boost their yield, but it's also kind of a dodgy question), but the point is, how you answered that question is incredibly important. you can say, for instance, "out of respect for the other schools, i'm not going to precisely rank them or even state definitively that i have a ranking, but i'll just say that Michigan is absolutely one of my favorite schools - I love the [insert specific details here, here, and here] - and would be honored to have the opportunity to attend." you can show your interest in the school without having to declare that it's your top pick (who really knows at that point anyways?).

finesse in these interpersonal situations will get you pretty far, and i'm sure we'll have to do it a lot as doctors.

That would be a great way to answer the question, but it's interesting to note that your suggested answer is a non-answer, which again speaks to the scumbag nature of the question.
 
That would be a great way to answer the question, but it's interesting to note that your suggested answer is a non-answer, which again speaks to the scumbag nature of the question.
sure. you'll have to do it a lot in life.
 
Hey everyone, current student here. Excited for the new admissions cycle! I wanted to wish you all the best with the admissions process. Feel free to ask any questions about UMMS or med school admissions in general and I will try my best to answer them.
 
Hey everyone, current student here. Excited for the new admissions cycle! I wanted to wish you all the best with the admissions process. Feel free to ask any questions about UMMS or med school admissions in general and I will try my best to answer them.

Hi AnnArborite, do you have any general tips for the UMMS interview? Are the interviewers generally physicians, do they do a lot of ethical questions, etc?
 
Hi AnnArborite, do you have any general tips for the UMMS interview? Are the interviewers generally physicians, do they do a lot of ethical questions, etc?

Incoming M1 here. Your three interviewers generally will be a physician, a med student, and an alumni. They're very chill interviews and I did not get any difficult questions. They mostly just ask you about something they found interesting on your app and ask you to talk about it a little more. The interviewers just want to get to know you as a person; they're not out to pressure you or make you nervous.
 
Incoming M1 here. Your three interviewers generally will be a physician, a med student, and an alumni. They're very chill interviews and I did not get any difficult questions. They mostly just ask you about something they found interesting on your app and ask you to talk about it a little more. The interviewers just want to get to know you as a person; they're not out to pressure you or make you nervous.

Thanks stkjhu, that helps a lot! 🙂
 
Incoming M1 here. Your three interviewers generally will be a physician, a med student, and an alumni. They're very chill interviews and I did not get any difficult questions. They mostly just ask you about something they found interesting on your app and ask you to talk about it a little more. The interviewers just want to get to know you as a person; they're not out to pressure you or make you nervous.

Spot on! The interviews are very relaxed and mostly conversational. I do not recall getting any ethical questions and the interview is usually a combination of an alumni, med student, or faculty though not necessarily one of each (ie. some people had a med student and two alumni). Best advice I can give you is to be yourself and know your app well (you will most likely be asked to elaborate on stuff you've mentioned in your app, particularly your significant activities)
 
Anyone hear anything? their twitter is quiet, makes me think they're dispensing with the scheduled invites.
 
Anyone hear anything? their twitter is quiet, makes me think they're dispensing with the scheduled invites.

Nah, total silence for me. Starting to think I won't be interviewed here 🙁
 
Nah, total silence for me. Starting to think I won't be interviewed here 🙁

It's disquieting. I suspect they're going in descending order of gpa but that's just pure hopeful speculation on my part, and doesn't bode well for you, with your highfalutin grades. Back to waiting I guess.
 
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