2013-2014 Wayne State University Application Thread

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Hi guys, I have a question for the current students at Wayne. What is the approximate cost of books and equipments for first year? Trying to make a budget list...
 
This really depends on you. Textbooks are definitely optional, as it's entirely possible to get through the first year of classes learning entirely out of the course pack that is given to you at the start of each unit. Other people might be able to help me out here, but I don't think that anything is truly mandatory for first year except a stethoscope -- the one they recommend you get is around 130-160 dollars if I am remembering correctly, but no one is going to bat an eye if you show up with a cheaper one. I do think that some essential books would be an anatomy atlas and possibly a Gray's Anatomy for Students (I used both, my Gray's is a Kindle edition so it was cheaper than the print version, and I still reference both from time to time), but you will get a feel for how much you will need outside material. The school will tell you that certain things are mandatory (the anatomy atlas is one of those things) but there really isn't such a thing as a mandatory textbook. Oh, there's also a "mandatory" dissection guide but with 6 people at a cadaver and plenty of people trying to get rid of their old ones, it's not really essential for everyone at the table to have one of their own. That said, it's pretty useful to have a clean copy to study at home, but I have to say that halfway through anatomy many students were not doing this. A lot of tablemates will share the costs and get one per side -- both new ones and used ones (dirty copies to keep in the cadaver lab) are sold during orientation at much reduced prices for the used copies.

Other people may differ from me on this one but here's what I suggest based on my experience:

Highly recommended: Anatomy Atlas (Netters, the one from Thieme, etc), Grant's Dissector (to feel prepared for anatomy lab)

Medium recommended: Gray's Anatomy (if you like further explanation of things that they don't really explain in depth in lecture), Physiology Textbook from Boron and Boulpaep

Low priority: biochemistry textbook, neuroscience, anything else

Basically, depending on what sort of student you are going to turn out to be, I would say you could spend anywhere from 100-300 bucks on books, but potentially zero dollars.

Anthrax said:
Hi guys, I have a question for the current students at Wayne. What is the approximate cost of books and equipments for first year? Trying to make a budget list...
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togaedere said:
This really depends on you. Textbooks are definitely optional, as it's entirely possible to get through the first year of classes learning entirely out of the course pack that is given to you at the start of each unit. Other people might be able to help me out here, but I don't think that anything is truly mandatory for first year except a stethoscope -- the one they recommend you get is around 130-160 dollars if I am remembering correctly, but no one is going to bat an eye if you show up with a cheaper one. I do think that some essential books would be an anatomy atlas and possibly a Gray's Anatomy for Students (I used both, my Gray's is a Kindle edition so it was cheaper than the print version, and I still reference both from time to time), but you will get a feel for how much you will need outside material. The school will tell you that certain things are mandatory (the anatomy atlas is one of those things) but there really isn't such a thing as a mandatory textbook. Oh, there's also a "mandatory" dissection guide but with 6 people at a cadaver and plenty of people trying to get rid of their old ones, it's not really essential for everyone at the table to have one of their own. That said, it's pretty useful to have a clean copy to study at home, but I have to say that halfway through anatomy many students were not doing this. A lot of tablemates will share the costs and get one per side -- both new ones and used ones (dirty copies to keep in the cadaver lab) are sold during orientation at much reduced prices for the used copies.

Other people may differ from me on this one but here's what I suggest based on my experience:

Highly recommended: Anatomy Atlas (Netters, the one from Thieme, etc), Grant's Dissector (to feel prepared for anatomy lab)

Medium recommended: Gray's Anatomy (if you like further explanation of things that they don't really explain in depth in lecture), Physiology Textbook from Boron and Boulpaep

Low priority: biochemistry textbook, neuroscience, anything else

Basically, depending on what sort of student you are going to turn out to be, I would say you could spend anywhere from 100-300 bucks on books, but potentially zero dollars.
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Thanks! That was very helpful! I looked at Wayne's website and they listed books an supplies at $1200-1300.
 
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Another thing I forgot to mention is that you will need an anatomy dissecting kit. They sell used ones during orientation as part of a fundraiser for student organizations (the students put on the sale), but you can also get a new one for sure also during orientation, sold by the Wayne State bookstore, and they aren't that expensive. What you will need: 2 hemostats, a blunt probe, scissors, a scalpel with blades, pair of tweezers, possibly a sharp probe (not sure what they tell you to get, but if it's anything beyond this list you don't need it). The Wayne bookstore sells them too if you want them new, but we're talking like 20 bucks max.

But yeaaaahhh, 1200-1300 is pretty ridiculous.

Anthrax said:
Thanks! That was very helpful! I looked at Wayne's website and they listed books an supplies at $1200-1300.
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IS 3.81 28 waiting for an interview. Wayne state has been my number once choice since I was in 6th grade. I hope to hear soon, gotta believe! I believe my EC are top notch, so hopefully that helps 😀
 
Does anyone know how often they send out interview invites?
 
They said they are doing interviews until the end of March. Fingers crossed.
 
I just got an II but I am contemplating withdrawing bc of OOS costs. Can someone who is OOS and had a few choices weigh in on why they chose Wayne State instead of another school? Thanks in advance!!
 
sdbeachsun said:
I just got an II but I am contemplating withdrawing bc of OOS costs. Can someone who is OOS and had a few choices weigh in on why they chose Wayne State instead of another school? Thanks in advance!!
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Are you already holding an acceptance?
 
sdbeachsun said:
Yes. The other school's OOS cost there is cheaper so I think its wise to pass on this II.
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You might get a scholarship, who knows. Although technically I'm competing against you, heh.
 
sdbeachsun said:
I just got an II but I am contemplating withdrawing bc of OOS costs. Can someone who is OOS and had a few choices weigh in on why they chose Wayne State instead of another school? Thanks in advance!!
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Honestly, I would go with the cheaper school. As long as you like the other school, it seems like a no brainer. Remember, even a little bit of a difference in tuition (then added interest) really adds up. A doctor is a doctor at the end of the day. Your recidency is where you learn almost everything you need to know (many physicians have told me this. They all recommend going cheap as possible.)

Oh and for a scholarship, good luck. I like to think scholarships in general are like zebras. We know they exist, but how often do you see one? It's extremely likely that the first batch admitted will get most scholarships because they have some of the best numbers ect.
 
Thank you to everyone who has chimed in! Ultimately, I decided to withdraw my app for this school so hopefully my II will go to someone else!! <3
 
Looks like the original commenter already made up his/her mind but yeah I would definitely say for everyone reading that because the OOS price tag is so hefty here at Wayne you probably won't find very many OOS people at all who matriculate who had other options. I can name one off the top of my head but he was weighing between two similarly priced out of state schools. An option that some take is to defer acceptance and establish residency, which you can only establish if you live in Michigan for a year not being enrolled in school. Depends on if you want to wait another year, but if it's going to save you 30,000 dollars a year then you might think it's worth it.

badd99 said:
Honestly, I would go with the cheaper school. As long as you like the other school, it seems like a no brainer. Remember, even a little bit of a difference in tuition (then added interest) really adds up. A doctor is a doctor at the end of the day. Your recidency is where you learn almost everything you need to know (many physicians have told me this. They all recommend going cheap as possible.)

Oh and for a scholarship, good luck. I like to think scholarships in general are like zebras. We know they exist, but how often do you see one? It's extremely likely that the first batch admitted will get most scholarships because they have some of the best numbers ect.
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Does anybody have any admission statistics on this school (preferably differentiating between OOS and IS)- #applied, #secondaries sent, #interviewed, #accepted, etc.?

Thanks!!!
 
jilljack593 said:
Thanks for the input. However, I'm looking for something more detailed. Maybe somebody with USnews subscription can chime in.
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I found this on a different thread:

(USnews Fall 2001)

****FORMAT Applied Interviewed Accepted Enrolled *****
Wayne State University Admissions
Total: 2,759 629 433 256 In state: 1,016 553 373 227
Out of state: 1,743 76 60 29 Women:1,297 299 205 120
Minorities: 743 140 93 57 International: 143 9 6 3
Acceptance rate: 15.7%
 
Does anyone know when the last acceptance date is (I'm interviewing in March) and when second look day is?
 
II this past week! IS 3.72 27. Wayne is my top choice, so I'm super excited!!!! I'll be interviewing 3/31. Any good info about the interview process here? So far, I've heard it's very laid back and conversational; I'm definitely looking forward to it 🙂
 
jilljack593 said:
Thanks for the input. However, I'm looking for something more detailed. Maybe somebody with USnews subscription can chime in.
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This is what I pulled from USNew&World Report.
Total applicants
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In-state applicants
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Out-of-state applicants
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Women applicants
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TakeAWalk said:
II this past week! IS 3.72 27. Wayne is my top choice, so I'm super excited!!!! I'll be interviewing 3/31. Any good info about the interview process here? So far, I've heard it's very laid back and conversational; I'm definitely looking forward to it 🙂
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I absolutely loved it!!! They just want to learn about you. Why medicine, why Wayne State, elaborate on your application. Very nice interview process, and then they give you a date and time for your decision!! Have fun, I'm really going to get accepted here... I will find out Wednesday at 2pm... 😵
 
Like someone else asked, when is second look day this year? I have heard that last year is was May 2nd. Anyone know the date this year? I didn't get any emails yet. Also, what exactly is second-look day at Wayne in terms of activities?
 
Hi guys,

What is the second-look day? It doesn't take place at Canadian schools and I only applied to a few US schools so I am not familiar with it.
 
TakeAWalk said:
II this past week! IS 3.72 27. Wayne is my top choice, so I'm super excited!!!! I'll be interviewing 3/31. Any good info about the interview process here? So far, I've heard it's very laid back and conversational; I'm definitely looking forward to it 🙂
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Congrats! Speaking from my interview experience at Wayne, this has to be my most comfortable interview. Just know yourself, your application, and your experiences inside out to present yourself as a solid candidate. The interview is entirely focused on you. No tricky questions. Again, speaking personally, my interviewer was very friendly, open, respectful, and interactive.

Edit: Forgot to add that you should try and show as much as possible how well of a fit you are for the Detroit community and for Wayne State. Review their website to see what the school offers in terms of academic curriculum, research activities, community outreach opportunities, and student life and show how well you fit in terms of these factors. Of course you may have other reasons as well...
 
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bearded frog said:
Canadian, invitation to interview last week. Already accepted at OUWB, which I loved, so they're gonna have to sell me pretty hard to make up for the ~$20000 extra tuition a year.
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When are you interviewing, if you don't mind sharing?
 
So does Wayne offer acceptances to people on the alternate list on each decision release date? Or at least an update on where they stand (still on the alt list or rejected)? Or is it more like a "you're stuck on the alt list until we let you know, whenever we feel like it"?
 
TheThirdLevel said:
So does Wayne offer acceptances to people on the alternate list on each decision release date? Or at least an update on where they stand (still on the alt list or rejected)? Or is it more like a "you're stuck on the alt list until we let you know, whenever we feel like it"?
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They let you know where you are on each date, for example I was waitlisted a few decision dates ago, and for each one afterwards so far, I've been emailed saying my status has not changed
 
spiker268 said:
They let you know where you are on each date, for example I was waitlisted a few decision dates ago, and for each one afterwards so far, I've been emailed saying my status has not changed
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Thanks!
 
No change. Anybody get off alternate list?
 
Do they just construct a huge alternate list instead of saying yes/no? I'm quite confused about their system
 
SiyingLi said:
Do they just construct a huge alternate list instead of saying yes/no? I'm quite confused about their system
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No they accept 1/7 of the class on each decision date. There have to be a number of people who are accepted but haven't posted.
 
Have not heard a peep since submitting in like July.. odd
 
SIGINT said:
No they accept 1/7 of the class on each decision date. There have to be a number of people who are accepted but haven't posted.
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Yeah, what he said. Most of the waitlist movement happens in May/June, after the May 15th deadline for holding onto only 1 acceptance.

Myself - I've been on the alternate list since the first decision date. They really only accept 3-5 off the waitlist each round before May/June, so your best bet is to sit tight until then. It's not fun, I know :/ but that's how it is, I think.
 
Kinch said:
Have not heard a peep since submitting in like July.. odd
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Yes, with your stats and instate status, that is really odd. Your stats are really close to mine, and I'm on the perpetual Alternate list at Wayne, but we are both already accepted to U of M. The randomness of this process is truly bewildering.
 
Backtothebasics8 said:
Like someone else asked, when is second look day this year? I have heard that last year is was May 2nd. Anyone know the date this year? I didn't get any emails yet. Also, what exactly is second-look day at Wayne in terms of activities?
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Not sure when second look day is this year, but just so everyone is aware they only extend an invite to people with multiple acceptances, but you do get to bring 2 guests with you if you'd like (parents, etc). Could be different this year but for last year they had different activities for the guests. While the accepted med students toured the clinical skills center and got hands on experience with some surgical skills (laparoscopic stuff, suturing, etc), sim patients, and more, the guests had several informative lectures on living in Detroit, safety, and a tour of the medical school. There was lunch provided and a lot of the school clubs and groups had a fair set up where both guests and the accepted students could learn more information about extracurricular opportunities. Overall I really enjoyed the second look day! And there is an essay competition for students that attend the day (write it beforehand and turn in when you arrive) with the chance to win full and partial scholarships (extra incentive to attend!).
 
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