2014-2015 University of Cincinnati Application Thread

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Another UCCOM "rising M2" in the thread. I'll try to answer questions as they come up and of course feel free to PM as well.
 
Submitted secondary on 7/7, AMCAS was verified on 7/15. Lets hope for early II! Good luck everyone! 🙂
 
Does anyone know how this school looks at non-trad applicants?
 
minion16 said:
Does anyone know how this school looks at non-trad applicants?
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http://med.uc.edu/medicalstudentadmissions/profiles

Per the matriculant profile, they admit about 15-20 students over age 25 each year, which is about 10-12% of the cohort. I'm in the 30-35 range which has me a bit concerned as only 2 applicants were admitted in this range in 3 of the past 4 years. I have no idea if that means they don't like non-trads past a certain age or that there aren't that many of us in that age range who apply each year.
 
carparker said:
http://med.uc.edu/medicalstudentadmissions/profiles

Per the matriculant profile, they admit about 15-20 students over age 25 each year, which is about 10-12% of the cohort. I'm in the 30-35 range which has me a bit concerned as only 2 applicants were admitted in this range in 3 of the past 4 years. I have no idea if that means they don't like non-trads past a certain age or that there aren't that many of us in that age range who apply each year.
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My guess would be the latter. I am in the same boat as you. But life happens, people have families, bills, commitments, etc etc. Medical school and residency is a long tough road (I just watched my wife go through it all). It is a big ask for someone to decide to start in their 30s knowing that they will be past 40 before their training ends. Best of luck!
 
carparker said:
http://med.uc.edu/medicalstudentadmissions/profiles

Per the matriculant profile, they admit about 15-20 students over age 25 each year, which is about 10-12% of the cohort. I'm in the 30-35 range which has me a bit concerned as only 2 applicants were admitted in this range in 3 of the past 4 years. I have no idea if that means they don't like non-trads past a certain age or that there aren't that many of us in that age range who apply each year.
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Quite interesting! I believe there are quite a few non-trdas applying to med schools each year. I guess this school is not a big fan of non-trads then.
 
So in the "Review Profile" thing before submission, the PDF just shows "Letters" and then it goes to "Certify and Submit". Like theres no space indicating which letters I have sent even though my AMCAS is verified and I listed some letters to this school. Is that normal?

and also, Ive already added 3 letters to this school on AMCAS, but Im planning on getting 2 more. Should I submit now, add the letters later on...and just go as if it was nothing? Or do I submit now, add the letters later, and then send them an update email about me adding 2 letters?

Thank you!
 
sahmoc said:
what luck! I'm sorry. The worst part about it is that speeding tickets in Ohio are minor misdemeanors.
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I had no idea that speeding tickets in Ohio are minor misdemeanors!

I have gotten two speeding tickets while in Ohio. One was back in 2009 and the other was in 2010 or 2011, cant' remember exactly. I just paid the fine and didn't fight them. I am from Kentucky and have a KY license.

If these are misdemeanors, do I need to include that on my AMCAS application where it asks us if we have been convicted of a misdemeanor? I've already submitted my application! I'll obviously have to include that on my Cinci secondary.

Also curious if anyone knows if they are erased from your record after a certain amount of time? Maybe they aren't even on there.
 
medbound18 said:
I had no idea that speeding tickets in Ohio are minor misdemeanors!

I have gotten two speeding tickets while in Ohio. One was back in 2009 and the other was in 2010 or 2011, cant' remember exactly. I just paid the fine and didn't fight them. I am from Kentucky and have a KY license.

If these are misdemeanors, do I need to include that on my AMCAS application where it asks us if we have been convicted of a misdemeanor? I've already submitted my application! I'll obviously have to include that on my Cinci secondary.

Also curious if anyone knows if they are erased from your record after a certain amount of time? Maybe they aren't even on there.
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I had no idea in Ohio speeding tickets are considered misdemeanors... I have 4. I have submitted over 20+ secondaries and always answered no to no misdemeanors.

I will be pretty shocked if it shows up on a background check, pretty ridiculous.
 
medbound18 said:
I had no idea that speeding tickets in Ohio are minor misdemeanors!

I have gotten two speeding tickets while in Ohio. One was back in 2009 and the other was in 2010 or 2011, cant' remember exactly. I just paid the fine and didn't fight them. I am from Kentucky and have a KY license.

If these are misdemeanors, do I need to include that on my AMCAS application where it asks us if we have been convicted of a misdemeanor? I've already submitted my application! I'll obviously have to include that on my Cinci secondary.

Also curious if anyone knows if they are erased from your record after a certain amount of time? Maybe they aren't even on there.
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skywayz said:
I had no idea in Ohio speeding tickets are considered misdemeanors... I have 4. I have submitted over 20+ secondaries and always answered no to no misdemeanors.

I will be pretty shocked if it shows up on a background check, pretty ridiculous.
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I also didn't list it on my AMCAS. I had no idea until I was was filling out this secondary. I've only had one other secondary specify to include speeding tickets if they were considered misdemeanors. All other schools said to leave them out. :shrug:
 
Mayday_ said:
I also didn't list it on my AMCAS. I had no idea until I was was filling out this secondary. I've only had one other secondary specify to include speeding tickets if they were considered misdemeanors. All other schools said to leave them out. :shrug:
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I did the exact same thing... Realistically a school won't even know your background check until you have accepted their tentative offer of enrollment. I would be really surprised if they care that much about a speeding ticket that they revoke your acceptance.

But on that note I am going to try and get them expunged off my record lol
 
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medbound18 said:
I had no idea that speeding tickets in Ohio are minor misdemeanors!

I have gotten two speeding tickets while in Ohio. One was back in 2009 and the other was in 2010 or 2011, cant' remember exactly. I just paid the fine and didn't fight them. I am from Kentucky and have a KY license.

If these are misdemeanors, do I need to include that on my AMCAS application where it asks us if we have been convicted of a misdemeanor? I've already submitted my application! I'll obviously have to include that on my Cinci secondary.

Also curious if anyone knows if they are erased from your record after a certain amount of time? Maybe they aren't even on there.
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This is just my feelings/thought process on it obviously, but I looked really in depth to the issue after reading about it on Harvard's website for their pre-med applicants. It was a powerpoint outlining all the sections on AMCAS and giving directions on how to fill it out. For the misdemeanors section it said something along the lines of- Note: Speeding tickets in Ohio are considered misdemeanors. I then read through a lot of law advice forums and on Ohio traffic laws websites and fund this to be true.

So what does this mean? To disclose or not? I searched for any information I could find on how not answering could affect my application. I found some old threads on SDN and looked at a few pre-law forums on the subject. There were some mixed reviews, but I decided to look at worse case scenario because this is medical school and (hopefully) my future.

Option 1: Disclose on AMCAS misdemeanor section, and explain but not focus on it because it is not a big deal (but no excuses).
Worst case scenario- every single medical school you apply to instantly puts you on their do not accept list because you were one of the unlucky ones who got caught speeding (obviously if you were going 90 in a 35 or something this might not just be the case).
Best case scenario- No medical schools care because everybody speeds at some point, even doctors.

Option 2: Do not include it on AMCAS and have it show up on a background check listed as misdemeanor.
Worst case scenario- They revoke your acceptance because as far as they know this is a display of dishonesty which is a huge red flag for medical schools (by far worse than the speeding ticket itself). On top of that, you can essentially be blacklisted from all medical schools for future cycles. Remember this is WORST case scenario.
Best case scenario- The medical schools ask you about it and are understanding that you did not realize speeding tickets in Ohio were misdemeanors and let you join their medical school class.

For me, I chose the former. I did this because of the the very uncertain risk of getting any potential acceptance revoked due to unintentional dishonesty. I decided they probably would not care and the risks were too high. So, on my AMCAS application there is a big YES next to misdemeanors which sucks, but they do a little reading see a speeding ticket and hopefully move on. I do not re-include it on the secondary if the school says...excluding minor traffic violations. I include it if they are asking for any and all traffic violations excluding parking tickets or however it is phrased.

I can't tell you the outcome yet because the cycle has just started, but so far I have two interviews (you can pretty easily find out where if that makes a difference to you) and have not been rejected or placed on hold anywhere. I think this is at least somewhat evidence that they don't really care.

For you since you have already submitted, I honestly have no idea what I would advise, besides perhaps contacting the admissions office (maybe anonymously) at a few of the schools you are applying and ask them.

Also, I don't know this for certain, but I don't think you can ever erase your driving record. The one you can obtain from the DMV goes back three years, but I am not sure if the AAMC background checks go farther.

Sorry for the monologue, hopefully it is helpful to some future applicants! Good luck with the rest of your applications!

TLDR: I put it on AMCAS because I felt it was too risky not to. My advice would be to call a few admissions offices and see what they think.
 
sahmoc said:
This is just my feelings/thought process on it obviously, but I looked really in depth to the issue after reading about it on Harvard's website for their pre-med applicants. It was a powerpoint outlining all the sections on AMCAS and giving directions on how to fill it out. For the misdemeanors section it said something along the lines of- Note: Speeding tickets in Ohio are considered misdemeanors. I then read through a lot of law advice forums and on Ohio traffic laws websites and fund this to be true.

So what does this mean? To disclose or not? I searched for any information I could find on how not answering could affect my application. I found some old threads on SDN and looked at a few pre-law forums on the subject. There were some mixed reviews, but I decided to look at worse case scenario because this is medical school and (hopefully) my future.

Option 1: Disclose on AMCAS misdemeanor section, and explain but not focus on it because it is not a big deal (but no excuses).
Worst case scenario- every single medical school you apply to instantly puts you on their do not accept list because you were one of the unlucky ones who got caught speeding (obviously if you were going 90 in a 35 or something this might not just be the case).
Best case scenario- No medical schools care because everybody speeds at some point, even doctors.

Option 2: Do not include it on AMCAS and have it show up on a background check listed as misdemeanor.
Worst case scenario- They revoke your acceptance because as far as they know this is a display of dishonesty which is a huge red flag for medical schools (by far worse than the speeding ticket itself). On top of that, you can essentially be blacklisted from all medical schools for future cycles. Remember this is WORST case scenario.
Best case scenario- The medical schools ask you about it and are understanding that you did not realize speeding tickets in Ohio were misdemeanors and let you join their medical school class.

For me, I chose the former. I did this because of the the very uncertain risk of getting any potential acceptance revoked due to unintentional dishonesty. I decided they probably would not care and the risks were too high. So, on my AMCAS application there is a big YES next to misdemeanors which sucks, but they do a little reading see a speeding ticket and hopefully move on. I do not re-include it on the secondary if the school says...excluding minor traffic violations. I include it if they are asking for any and all traffic violations excluding parking tickets or however it is phrased.

I can't tell you the outcome yet because the cycle has just started, but so far I have two interviews (you can pretty easily find out where if that makes a difference to you) and have not been rejected or placed on hold anywhere. I think this is at least somewhat evidence that they don't really care.

For you since you have already submitted, I honestly have no idea what I would advise, besides perhaps contacting the admissions office (maybe anonymously) at a few of the schools you are applying and ask them.

Also, I don't know this for certain, but I don't think you can ever erase your driving record. The one you can obtain from the DMV goes back three years, but I am not sure if the AAMC background checks go farther.

Sorry for the monologue, hopefully it is helpful to some future applicants! Good luck with the rest of your applications!

TLDR: I put it on AMCAS because I felt it was too risky not to. My advice would be to call a few admissions offices and see what they think.
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In Ohio speeding tickets are considered minor misdemeanors. AFAIK on AMCAS they ask for specifically "misdemeanors", I feel like you could argue minor part changes the classification making it not apply. Furthermore I have lived in Ohio for 24 years, I just found out yesterday traffic tickets are misdemeanors... I talked to two other friends one who was accepted in medical school and starts tomorrow who got a speeding ticket, and another who is applying this cycle and they were completely in shock this ******ed state considers that **** a criminal act. Point is I am pretty damn sure the majority of people in this state are ignorant of this fact, and well there isn't an epidemic of Ohioians getting screwed on their medical school applications because of speeding tickets lol, we would of heard about it, we have like 6 med schools and lots of in state applicants.

Lastly I kind of agree with the dishonesty part... My plan, is if I get any acceptances or wait-lists to inform the schools prior to the background check via email or phone call of my situation, how I was ignorant of the fact that I had a speeding ticket misdemeanor. Chances are they will be shocked that such a stupid law exists. But if I put myself in the position of an adcom... if you get invited to join a medical school out of the hundreds of other applicants you had compete with, after two applications and and interview, I highly doubt they would revoke said acceptance because you were speeding. Like that would be the most hypocritical decision in the world, because everyone has gone over the speed limit one point in their life and to say no to someone for such a major commitment would be shocking.

I disagree with calling the schools now, even anonymously, there is literally nothing else you can do at this point. I am going to do some more research and talk to a lawyer, I believe you can get the records expunged/sealed. I will post more information when I do.
 
heymeg said:
I feel like I remember being told that any minor moving violations would be expunged from your record when you turned 18 (assuming you were a minor when you got the ticket), but I don't remember who told me or if that's complete BS. This is in Ohio. Anybody know anything about this? Because I def wrote that the ticket was expunged when I turned 18 on all my apps that specifically asked about speeding tickets, and now I'm wondering if that's just not true lol.
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No idea. I really don't think it matters... A lot of people get moving traffic violations, and I am sure at least 10%+ of premeds from Ohio have gotten one. I did some research in past threads and haven't heard anyone actually not go to medical school because of a speeding ticket.
 
Don't overthink it. They are not going to throw out the application of an otherwise good applicant just because of a speeding ticket. However, if you have the least bit of doubt, then disclose all info. I imagine they would be very quick to dismiss someone who lied on their application.
 
Thank you very much! The three earliest dates are 9/16, 9/22, and 10/10. I hope to see some more IIs coming your way soon! 🙂
 
OMG, congratulations!!! Good luck to everyone else on this here thread, too. 🙂
 
Congrats everyone!!!! 🙂 I'm crossing my fingers that I can join y'all in celebrating in a few days/weeks/months haha. Cinci has such a great children's hospital, so I'd love the chance to do rotations there!
 
heylollipop said:
I received an email about a status change, but I cannot find my status on the UC website. Anyone knows how to navigate the site? http://medonestop.uc.edu
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Log in. Click something like, 'online application manager'. Click 'MD Program' under current status.

Neurotic time. For the people who have gotten an II: the status says to confirm eight days prior to the interview date. Are you all taking this literally, as in, we are not supposed to confirm before then (ie. now)?
 
toostressful said:
Log in. Click something like, 'online application manager'. Click 'MD Program' under current status.

Neurotic time. For the people who have gotten an II: the status says to confirm eight days prior to the interview date. Are you all taking this literally, as in, we are not supposed to confirm before then (ie. now)?
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skywayz said:
Login and click MD application under the "current status" header.
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Thanks guys.
 
Do you guys think it is worth applying with a 30 MCAT and 3.6 gpa OOS?
 
II!!! LizzyM 77, OOS. Also, I have a question guys about the new additional information essays they have us write. They ask about how you studied for the MCAT. How much detail did you guys put. I feel like I just want to say "I read books, I took practice exams, and then I took the exam." 😛
 
Congrats on the IIs! New M1 here, feel free to ask me any questions. I'm from OOS so I don't know much about the city or curriculum (yet), but I'm happy to help with any application or MMI concerns. Good luck, everyone!
 
njoymusic2 said:
Congrats on the IIs! New M1 here, feel free to ask me any questions. I'm from OOS so I don't know much about the city or curriculum (yet), but I'm happy to help with any application or MMI concerns. Good luck, everyone!
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If you wouldn't mind sharing your impression of MMIs and what you suggest as far as preparation goes that would be really helpful 🙂
 
The MMI here is pretty relaxed and is not meant to stress you out, so don't worry if you haven't read up on healthcare reform or taken a bioethics course (I've done neither of those). As long as you clearly articulate the pros/cons and consider each scenario from different perspectives, you'll be just fine.

Many Canadian and British med schools use MMI so there are lots of prompts and sample answers online that will give you a good idea of what to expect. It's also fun to practice with friends!

Here's a video that was helpful for both MMI and traditional interviews.

(part 1)
(part 2)
 
njoymusic2 said:
The MMI here is pretty relaxed and is not meant to stress you out, so don't worry if you haven't read up on healthcare reform or taken a bioethics course (I've done neither of those). As long as you clearly articulate the pros/cons and consider each scenario from different perspectives, you'll be just fine.

Many Canadian and British med schools use MMI so there are lots of prompts and sample answers online that will give you a good idea of what to expect. It's also fun to practice with friends!

Here's a video that was helpful for both MMI and traditional interviews.

(part 1)
(part 2)
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Thank you so much! I will definitely be watching those tonight.
 
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