Does anyone know when the prerequisite completion date is?
Just wondering, did anyone else have an interview that was only 30 min long? Should I be worried??Anyone moved off of the waitlist yet?
Just wondering, did anyone else have an interview that was only 30 min long? Should I be worried??
My dad just called me from home and said it came today. I live less than 2 hours from Detroit. We have three weeks from the acceptance date (Nov 26) to submit a form and some sort of letter of intent (my dad confused me on what exactly this is). No money deposit!
Still nothing from Wayne State even though I sent my secondary in 4 months ago...silent rejection? 29/3.89
The wait is killing me. Still waiting on II, I have a 3.9 GPA and a 33 MCAT but I'm OOS. My secondary was received on 23/10. Do I have a chance this late in the game?
Edit: I'm Canadian.
The wait is killing me. Still waiting on II, I have a 3.9 GPA and a 33 MCAT but I'm OOS. My secondary was received on 23/10. Do I have a chance this late in the game?
Edit: I'm Canadian.
I think you still have a shot. You got a secondary so you at least made the first screen. Your stats are better than mine and I got accepted (also Canadian). I think my ECs are fairly strong though. They admit I think 1/6th or 1/7th of the class every month so there's plenty of time left still.
Can any current students comment on the pros/cons of the school as they have spent more time here?
I understand that a huge pro is the clinical experience during M3/M4. The large class size could be a pro/con depending on how you look at it. However, I have heard a lot from current students/recent past students/interview day tour guides how the "administration" is probably their biggest complaint. In addition, many of the good faculty members have left since Oakland opened up? Have any of y'all seen the effects of this? Thank you very much!
Still waiting to receive mine. What is the deadline to hold a spot? I hope I get my packet on Monday. If I don't, can't they send me the 'Hold a spot' form electronically?Just got the acceptance packet in the mail today. OOS. Interviewed on 11/10
That tuition tho...
Current students: When does Wayne State announce it's grants and scholarships to its accepted students? (as in full scholarship, half scholarship etc...)
They sent me mine electronically because they had issues getting it sent in time.Still waiting to receive mine. What is the deadline to hold a spot? I hope I get my packet on Monday. If I don't, can't they send me the 'Hold a spot' form electronically?
I am pretty sure you should be able to send them the signed form through email since this is what I had done. I had the same concern with the speed of the postal service.Still waiting to receive mine. What is the deadline to hold a spot? I hope I get my packet on Monday. If I don't, can't they send me the 'Hold a spot' form electronically?
I actually consider the administration a pro, but admittedly it depends on your perspective. There are annoying things that happen -- things that sometimes don't happen on time, course pack issues, variability with quality of instructors -- but for the very large majority of the time (in my opinion) the administration is receptive to (reasonable) complaints and responds accordingly. Cases in point --> there was some controversy around here recently regarding whether or not M3/M4s would be excused from their clinical duties if there was a snow day and the school closed down. In November, the school changed their policy to state that clinical students were still expected to make it to the hospital. Senates from the different years took issue with this, and argued the case that if the weather is bad enough to close the school down, then M3s/M4s should also be excused from making it to their clinical campuses. This is due in large part to the fact that there is a solid chunk of students who don't live within walking distance to the hospitals, and there was concern that this setup would put undue pressure on them to drive in risky weather to look good on rotations. I know that the cases built by the students went a long way in the school changing the policy back to excusing students from clinical duties in the event of severely inclement weather. I'm not arguing for or against any points in regards to this, but I bring it up to point out that our senate was able to take a stand on something and help to change policy on something.
Another example is in regards to year 2. The original schedule for year 1 was something like immunology/micro paired with psych to start the year, followed by pharmacology and pathobiology (our pathology course). The school changed the schedule around for my year -- class of 2016 -- to pair micro and pharm together, two considerably challenging classes. This stressed a lot of people in my year out, and there were quite a few individuals who felt like this was much too rigorous of a schedule to start, with exams every Monday and essentially no time off for months. Class of 2016 senate (of which I am not a part) suggested a new schedule where the courses were taken one at a time, to ease the issue of having to cram for one class right when you were done studying for the other class's exam you just finished. So while there was some going back and forth as far as I know, the school agreed upon the changed schedule and micro is now taken in its entirely before pharm starts. The class of 2017 still had stress during that part of the year due to the nature and volume of the material, but it at least seemed to me much more reasonable than what my class experienced.
I also know that some changes are being made to sort of ongoing issues regarding exam reviews. When I was in years 1 and 2, there was nothing in place to allow us to review exam answers on things we missed after we completed the exam. So we could know our score, but we never really got any feedback on what we missed. For a large portion of us, myself included, we found that this was interfering with our learning process. I don't know a large amount of the details on this, but I do know they've started to allow students to review missed exam questions in the computer labs after the exams are over. Due to the class size that you've already mentioned, it can be difficult logistically to balance monitoring/cutting down on cheating (people have been caught and expelled fairly recently) and making sure the learning needs are met of the vast majority of students for whom integrity isn't an issue. It's a work in progress but worth talking to someone in 1st or 2nd year to see how that change is coming along. I do not believe it's available for every class as of yet.
Hopefully that gives you some examples to consider. Personally, I find the administration responsive, accommodating, and for the most part reasonable. I am on the more involved side when it comes to student organizations and am fairly proactive, and I've learned that being patient, professional, and respectful when speaking with administration goes a long way. I happen to know that some folks do tend to get annoyed when students address complaints in an entitled or kind of whiny way, but I haven't really experienced egregious disregard for complaints and I find the administration very approachable. Hope that helps.
Oh, and I can't really speak to the faculty changes as many of our instructors have been here for years (I wouldn't know the difference), but I should say that we have some extremely strong faculty (including our pathology course director Dr. Bosch who is cherished among the students), some kind of medium faculty, and a handful of lecturers who are kind of difficult to get through. Most of the course directors are well-liked, work hard, and have a good system going, but there are some difficult patches in our curriculum (physiology is a little touch and go. Biggest holes I would say are in cardiac and GI physio, although I think cardiac is just cus it's tough and there's not enough time to cover it. GI probably needs the most overhaul). Overall, though, coming from a third year perspective and a non-science background before school, I would say that our curriculum is strong. It also prepared me very well for the step one exam.
That's my take!
thanks! did they acknowledge receiving it? I guess I'm just being paranoid. I don't want there to be a slip up because of this form being overlooked in my fileI am pretty sure you should be able to send them the signed form through email since this is what I had done. I had the same concern with the speed of the postal service.
Yes they did.thanks! did they acknowledge receiving it? I guess I'm just being paranoid. I don't want there to be a slip up because of this form being overlooked in my file
Yeah they did. I would suggest just calling the admissions office and asking them. They are usually friendly and very clear about everything.thanks! did they acknowledge receiving it? I guess I'm just being paranoid. I don't want there to be a slip up because of this form being overlooked in my file
thanks I just called and the confirmed they received itYeah they did. I would suggest just calling the admissions office and asking them. They are usually friendly and very clear about everything.
I actually consider the administration a pro, but admittedly it depends on your perspective. There are annoying things that happen -- things that sometimes don't happen on time, course pack issues, variability with quality of instructors -- but for the very large majority of the time (in my opinion) the administration is receptive to (reasonable) complaints and responds accordingly. Cases in point --> there was some controversy around here recently regarding whether or not M3/M4s would be excused from their clinical duties if there was a snow day and the school closed down. In November, the school changed their policy to state that clinical students were still expected to make it to the hospital. Senates from the different years took issue with this, and argued the case that if the weather is bad enough to close the school down, then M3s/M4s should also be excused from making it to their clinical campuses. This is due in large part to the fact that there is a solid chunk of students who don't live within walking distance to the hospitals, and there was concern that this setup would put undue pressure on them to drive in risky weather to look good on rotations. I know that the cases built by the students went a long way in the school changing the policy back to excusing students from clinical duties in the event of severely inclement weather. I'm not arguing for or against any points in regards to this, but I bring it up to point out that our senate was able to take a stand on something and help to change policy on something.
Another example is in regards to year 2. The original schedule was something like immunology/micro paired with psych to start the year, followed by pharmacology and pathobiology (our pathology course). The school changed the schedule around for my year -- class of 2016 -- to pair micro and pharm together, two considerably challenging classes. This stressed a lot of people in my year out, and there were quite a few individuals who felt like this was much too rigorous of a schedule to start, with exams every Monday and essentially no time off for months. Class of 2016 senate (of which I am not a part) suggested a new schedule where the courses were taken one at a time, to ease the issue of having to cram for one class right when you were done studying for the other class's exam you just finished. So while there was some going back and forth as far as I know, the school agreed upon the changed schedule and micro is now taken in its entirely before pharm starts. The class of 2017 still had stress during that part of the year due to the nature and volume of the material, but it at least seemed to me much more reasonable than what my class experienced.
I also know that some changes are being made to sort of ongoing issues regarding exam reviews. When I was in years 1 and 2, there was nothing in place to allow us to review exam answers on things we missed after we completed the exam. So we could know our score, but we never really got any feedback on what we missed. For a large portion of us, myself included, we found that this was interfering with our learning process. I don't know a large amount of the details on this, but I do know they've started to allow students to review missed exam questions in the computer labs after the exams are over. Due to the class size that you've already mentioned, it can be difficult logistically to balance monitoring/cutting down on cheating (people have been caught and expelled fairly recently) and making sure the learning needs are met of the vast majority of students for whom integrity isn't an issue. It's a work in progress but worth talking to someone in 1st or 2nd year to see how that change is coming along. I do not believe it's available for every class as of yet.
Hopefully that gives you some examples to consider. Personally, I find the administration responsive, accommodating, and for the most part reasonable. I am on the more involved side when it comes to student organizations and am fairly proactive, and I've learned that being patient, professional, and respectful when speaking with administration goes a long way. I happen to know that some folks do tend to get annoyed when students address complaints in an entitled or kind of whiny way, but I haven't really experienced egregious disregard for complaints and I find the administration very approachable. Hope that helps.
Oh, and I can't really speak to the faculty changes as many of our instructors have been here for years (I wouldn't know the difference), but I should say that we have some extremely strong faculty (including our pathology course director Dr. Bosch who is cherished among the students), some kind of medium faculty, and a handful of lecturers who are kind of difficult to get through. Most of the course directors are well-liked, work hard, and have a good system going, but there are some difficult patches in our curriculum (physiology is a little touch and go. Biggest holes I would say are in cardiac and GI physio, although I think cardiac is just cus it's tough and there's not enough time to cover it. GI probably needs the most overhaul). Overall, though, coming from a third year perspective and a non-science background before school, I would say that our curriculum is strong. It also prepared me very well for the step one exam.
That's my take!
You wouldn't happen to be a student interviewer would you? Because I was told the exact same scenarios from my student interviewer. It made me extremely excited to hear from Wayne. It would be extremely difficult to choose between Wayne and MSU CHM if offered both, but these issues have kind of helped with the decision and seeing how receptive the administration is.
It's just really weird that this is the same thing I was told during my interview date. lol.
No i am not a student interviewer! Haha, that's hilarious.
To expound a little bit (I'm good at expounding) --> I can see why there's the perception of a difficult administration given the size of the school. A lot of our logistical issues do seem to be a direct byproduct of the fact that we have so many people in our class. However, that dissipates when you realize that administrators respond to emails basically immediately, and going in to see them to talk is also really easy. I'm not saying it doesn't take work, but it does seem like the people who have working relationships with administrators talk more highly of them. Which is to not say that we don't see that there are flaws, we just learn how to anticipate these things and work with people rather than against them.
The wait is killing me. Still waiting on II, I have a 3.9 GPA and a 33 MCAT but I'm OOS. My secondary was received on 23/10. Do I have a chance this late in the game?
Edit: I'm Canadian.
The wait is killing me. Still waiting on II, I have a 3.9 GPA and a 33 MCAT but I'm OOS. My secondary was received on 23/10. Do I have a chance this late in the game?
Edit: I'm Canadian.
First time poster, long time reader! I always found timeline posts helpful, so I will share mine for those still waiting..
9/20- Secondary received by Wayne State
12/10- Interview offered
GPA-3.7 MCAT-30 with good extracurriculars, IS
Good luck, everyone! Hoping you all get good news soon! Stay Positive!
I'm new to this forum business.
I was wondering if any WSU med student, those who have already been accepted, or those who have received an interview, can shed light on the interview process of WSU. Is it just a one-on-one interview? What kind of questions do they ask? How should someone prepare? What gets you in?
Thanks in advance!!!
The interview was very very laid back. I didn't have any "hard" questions. It was more focussed on the application yourself. What I viewed the interview as was more of a "get to know the real you" versus "how does he compare against the other applicants." My interviewer just asked about things from my application, and then finally, "Why Wayne?" That was it. It still lasted an hour and 25 minutes. It was just one-on-one. Ten thousand times easier than an MMI. Just know your application, and know WHY WAYNE!!!!
At the end he asked me, "Do you have anything else that you can think of that you would want me to advocate for you to the committee about?"
I answered, then it was done. I had the tour next and it was fairly simple and easy.
Is there anything unique about Canadians interviewing?
I don't know if there is anything unique when Canadians interview. As a Canadian, I would like to know and appreciate it if someone can answer this question.
Thanks for your answer. I did feel the same way when they sent out the letter. However, the fact that they still reject about 2/3 interviewees seems like they're looking for something. Were there any ethical scenarios thrown at you? I assumed there would be because of the secondary. Also, I wonder if your interview was relatively easy because you had high stats and good extracurriculars?
Check your inbox.I don't know if there is anything unique when Canadians interview. As a Canadian, I would like to know and appreciate it if someone can answer this question.
Thanks for your answer. I did feel the same way when they sent out the letter. However, the fact that they still reject about 2/3 interviewees seems like they're looking for something. Were there any ethical scenarios thrown at you? I assumed there would be because of the secondary. Also, I wonder if your interview was relatively easy because you had high stats and good extracurriculars?
^ I don't think Canadian students are considered any less than OOS US students. There are quite a bit of Canadian students. I think OOS/Canadian stats and acceptance rates are usually clumped together.
Im Canadian and I just got an II! 🙂 Going on Jan 7. Any tips?
Im Canadian and I just got an II! 🙂 Going on Jan 7. Any tips?
They sent me an interview date, I couldn't see any of the available dates. Good luck!!!Congrats! What kind of interview dates were available?