2015-2016 Virginia Commonwealth University Application Thread

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I agree with you on the first-come, first serve review process for applicants. But I think you're putting too much stock on the timing for review rather than having a successful review and then having a successful interview. Ironically enough, it's to your advantage to interview later in the cycle when you're competing for acceptances with "less stellar" applicants, which allows you to set yourself apart from the pack with greater experience under your belt. Just my $0.02.

I'm sorry, but then why the heck would we put so much effort into applying early and getting everything done early when people who do everything later are rewarded? The whole point of applying early is to get your app reviewed when there are the highest # of seats open. Unless you're telling me they section off "X" # of seats specifically for OOS that IS students can't touch. If that's the case, I feel I can understand their way of doing things. Otherwise, your argument really doesn't hold water. By the time they look at our apps there might only be like 10 seats left. Even if I'm "stellar" compared to the other applicants, which I doubt I would be (LizzyM only ~73-74, strong EC's, nothing spectacular), I wouldn't like my chances. Sure, life's not fair, but it almost feels like they're going out of their way at this point to alienate OOS students. I guess it's good practice for keeping cool later on in life. Thanks VCU!
 
I'm sorry, but then why the heck would we put so much effort into applying early and getting everything done early when people who do everything later are rewarded? The whole point of applying early is to get your app reviewed when there are the highest # of seats open. Unless you're telling me they section off "X" # of seats specifically for OOS that IS students can't touch. If that's the case, I feel I can understand their way of doing things. Otherwise, your argument really doesn't hold water. By the time they look at our apps there might only be like 10 seats left. Even if I'm "stellar" compared to the other applicants, which I doubt I would be (LizzyM only ~73-74, strong EC's, nothing spectacular), I wouldn't like my chances. Sure, life's not fair, but it almost feels like they're going out of their way at this point to alienate OOS students. I guess it's good practice for keeping cool later on in life. Thanks VCU!

This is because the way VCU offers acceptances is a somewhat non-traditional. If you have the time to dig through threads, you'll find a court-case proceeding that outlines how the school offers them, which is based off of a composite priority score. Your interview date is sometimes a marker of that priority score, but not necessarily. It's to your benefit to get your application in as quickly as possible because interview slots are rolling.

It would appear that seats are cordoned off specifically for IS and OOS, as our class is about 108 IS 108 OOS and may differ slightly depending on how the waitlist shakes out. Only a quarter of the seats are distributed each of the four major acceptance dates (50-60 seats), and then it moves to waitlist distribution.
 
This is because the way VCU offers acceptances is a somewhat non-traditional. If you have the time to dig through threads, you'll find a court-case proceeding that outlines how the school offers them, which is based off of a composite priority score. Your interview date is sometimes a marker of that priority score, but not necessarily. It's to your benefit to get your application in as quickly as possible because interview slots are rolling.

It would appear that seats are cordoned off specifically for IS and OOS, as our class is about 108 IS 108 OOS and may differ slightly depending on how the waitlist shakes out. Only a quarter of the seats are distributed each of the four major acceptance dates (50-60 seats), and then it moves to waitlist distribution.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I know about the priority score (another VCU student kindly explained it to me earlier), but by the nature of rolling admissions, wouldn't it be advantageous to have our applications looked at earlier?

So assuming at this point a hypothetical OOS student receives an II, and the next available date is in Nov/Dec, this student may have already missed the first major acceptance date, meaning they only have 3 of the 4 pools left to be considered + WL. Assume, the same student receives the II a month from now, maybe they will have missed the first two dates, meaning they are only looked at for the last 2 pools/WL. Then it really doesn't matter if our priority score is high or low in the sense that we will still only be considered for the remaining acceptance pools. Unless you're telling me that they might not fill up all the cordoned seats for OOS students in prior pools and take OOS students who were interviewed after those acceptance dates.

The whole point of submitting early is to make sure that we are looked at as many times as possible (unless, of course, we are rejected outright). People have been complete since early/mid July who have files that haven't even been LOOKED at yet. We might be missing one or more of these 4 acceptance dates simply because we're OOS. That's what's really galling.

Of course, all this might be moot if OOS and IS acceptances are on completely different tracks and are considered for different seats and there's no overlap like you alluded to. If half of the class is "reserved" for OOS, I'd expect to see a little more movement for the OOS applications. I could count on my fingers the # of OOS II's that have been handed out to members on this forum. Something seems fishy to me. Maybe there'll be a giant batch of OOS II's soon. If that's the case, mea culpa, and please accept my apologies. It's still nonetheless frustrating to know that you can do everything early and have everything submitted early just to be passed over because you're OOS.
 
As an OOS applicant I just want to say how much I respect this school's commitment to their IS students. It costs a lot more to train a doctor than what tuition actually is. Most OOS don't even want to practice in the state that they go for school so why should the local taxpayers feel the burden of sending a bunch of people through school? Most of my state's schools don't even give preference to in state applicants which really quite upsetting and makes it extremely difficult to get into med school.

It seems that VCU may balance things giving preference to a certain number of IS applicants on a rolling basis all the while going through OOS applicants more slowly. Once their IS quota has been filled they may start filling spots however they like. However they do it, I'm just happy VCU admits SO MANY OOS people. Most state schools have a 80/20 split - 50/50 is fairly unheard of! Not to mention all the schools that won't even give you a CHANCE to apply (East Tennessee, UW, or Nevada).
 
As an OOS applicant I just want to say how much I respect this school's commitment to their IS students. It costs a lot more to train a doctor than what tuition actually is. Most OOS don't even want to practice in the state that they go for school so why should the local taxpayers feel the burden of sending a bunch of people through school? Most of my state's schools don't even give preference to in state applicants which really quite upsetting and makes it extremely difficult to get into med school.

It seems that VCU may balance things giving preference to a certain number of IS applicants on a rolling basis all the while going through OOS applicants more slowly. Once their IS quota has been filled they may start filling spots however they like. However they do it, I'm just happy VCU admits SO MANY OOS people. Most state schools have a 80/20 split - 50/50 is fairly unheard of! Not to mention all the schools that won't even give you a CHANCE to apply (East Tennessee, UW, or Nevada).

Wouldn't an 80/20 split be a greater commitment to IS students? This seems disingenuous... Admitting 50/50 being a public school seems like a smaller commitment. If they really wanted to train local docs who will stay in the area, I don't understand the 50/50 split in matriculants/acceptances. I highly doubt they would have trouble finding enough qualified applicants.

This just seems like a superficial commitment to IS students while hoping OOS students who use VCU as a backup will withdraw. I don't necessarily think that's a bad idea if their mission is to train doctors who will stay local, but their mission statement says nothing about that. Perhaps it's being alluded to in the phrase "it is our mission to develop more health care practices to address the needs of the diverse populations we serve", but that would be a pretty vague allusion to geography/location of the doctors they train.

EDIT: I'm not saying this is a bad thing for us OOS applicants, but just seems disingenuous to claim they are more committed to IS students when they accept 50/50. Just IMO
 
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I know about the priority score (another VCU student kindly explained it to me earlier), but by the nature of rolling admissions, wouldn't it be advantageous to have our applications looked at earlier?

So assuming at this point a hypothetical OOS student receives an II, and the next available date is in Nov/Dec, this student may have already missed the first major acceptance date, meaning they only have 3 of the 4 pools left to be considered + WL. Assume, the same student receives the II a month from now, maybe they will have missed the first two dates, meaning they are only looked at for the last 2 pools/WL. Then it really doesn't matter if our priority score is high or low in the sense that we will still only be considered for the remaining acceptance pools. Unless you're telling me that they might not fill up all the cordoned seats for OOS students in prior pools and take OOS students who were interviewed after those acceptance dates.

The whole point of submitting early is to make sure that we are looked at as many times as possible (unless, of course, we are rejected outright). People have been complete since early/mid July who have files that haven't even been LOOKED at yet. We might be missing one or more of these 4 acceptance dates simply because we're OOS. That's what's really galling.

Of course, all this might be moot if OOS and IS acceptances are on completely different tracks and are considered for different seats and there's no overlap like you alluded to. If half of the class is "reserved" for OOS, I'd expect to see a little more movement for the OOS applications. I could count on my fingers the # of OOS II's that have been handed out to members on this forum. Something seems fishy to me. Maybe there'll be a giant batch of OOS II's soon. If that's the case, mea culpa, and please accept my apologies. It's still nonetheless frustrating to know that you can do everything early and have everything submitted early just to be passed over because you're OOS.

It is theoretically advantageous to be interviewed earlier, assuming you don't improve your application or interviewing skills by the end of the cycle. Your priority score is fixed after the interview. When the school gives out a round of acceptances, it will take the 50-60 best priority scores (1 being perfect, 5 being not recommended for admission) (exception being md/phd acceptances, which I presume are from another committee). This is why timing of interview doesn't matter as much. You could interview next week and get a 3 for your priority score, and some else could interview in March and get a 2.5 overall --> the 2.5 applicant is going to get the spot over the 3, despite time of interview. This "similar" to non-rolling schools in that timing of interview isn't nearly as important as interview performance and overall file review. Under this system, you are not missing "look at opportunities" because you only get looked at once.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with the Admissions Committee in any way, nor do I know the intricacies of their rating system. All the information I've presented so far should be given by Dean Whitehurst-Cook to each interview group.
 
Wouldn't an 80/20 split be a greater commitment to IS students? This seems disingenuous... Admitting 50/50 being a public school seems like a smaller commitment. If they really wanted to train local docs who will stay in the area, I don't understand the 50/50 split in matriculants/acceptances. I highly doubt they would have trouble finding enough qualified applicants.

This just seems like a superficial commitment to IS students while hoping OOS students who use VCU as a backup will withdraw. I don't necessarily think that's a bad idea if their mission is to train doctors who will stay local, but their mission statement says nothing about that. Perhaps it's being alluded to in the phrase "it is our mission to develop more health care practices to address the needs of the diverse populations we serve", but that would be a pretty vague allusion to geography/location of the doctors they train.

Also, keep in mind that Virginia has 5 medical schools (UVA (50/50), VCU (50/50), EVMS (50/50), VTC (25/75), and VCOM (unsure)), so overall there are 250+ in-state seats for Virginians.
 
Wouldn't an 80/20 split be a greater commitment to IS students? This seems disingenuous... Admitting 50/50 being a public school seems like a smaller commitment. If they really wanted to train local docs who will stay in the area, I don't understand the 50/50 split in matriculants/acceptances. I highly doubt they would have trouble finding enough qualified applicants.

This just seems like a superficial commitment to IS students while hoping OOS students who use VCU as a backup will withdraw. I don't necessarily think that's a bad idea if their mission is to train doctors who will stay local, but their mission statement says nothing about that. Perhaps it's being alluded to in the phrase "it is our mission to develop more health care practices to address the needs of the diverse populations we serve", but that would be a pretty vague allusion to geography/location of the doctors they train.
Ya it would be a greater commitment and if Virginia needed it to be 80/20 I'm sure they would do that - however, with the comment from ffxfreak13 I'm sure they don't. No need to speculate or berate though - just wanted to spread some positivity around 🙂 Life sucks but the mind can make it quite lovely
 
It is theoretically advantageous to be interviewed earlier, assuming you don't improve your application or interviewing skills by the end of the cycle. Your priority score is fixed after the interview. When the school gives out a round of acceptances, it will take the 50-60 best priority scores (1 being perfect, 5 being not recommended for admission) (exception being md/phd acceptances, which I presume are from another committee). This is why timing of interview doesn't matter as much. You could interview next week and get a 3 for your priority score, and some else could interview in March and get a 2.5 overall --> the 2.5 applicant is going to get the spot over the 3, despite time of interview. This "similar" to non-rolling schools in that timing of interview isn't nearly as important as interview performance and overall file review. Under this system, you are not missing "look at opportunities" because you only get looked at once.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with the Admissions Committee in any way, nor do I know the intricacies of their rating system. All the information I've presented so far should be given by Dean Whitehurst-Cook to each interview group.

But wouldn't we need to be interviewed first to be assigned a priority score (i.e. be put into the pool of possible acceptances)? Say I get a score of 3, and I get an acceptance with the first round, and then someone else later on gets a 2. That person would still only be eligible for the 2-4th rounds of acceptances despite having a better priority score than me. Does that make sense? I hope I'm making my scenario clear. If that's the case, then being interviewed late is still a pretty big disadvantage.

Also, keep in mind that Virginia has 5 medical schools (UVA (50/50), VCU (50/50), EVMS (50/50), VTC (25/75), and VCOM (unsure)), so overall there are 250+ in-state seats for Virginians.

Yeah, but aren't these schools targeting different groups of applicants? A Virginian may apply to all of these schools but only get an acceptance to one of these schools. I find it hard to believe that a state as large as Virginia can only muster 500 ish qualified applicants (I'm assuming not everyone from Virginia will stay in Virginia).
 
Ya it would be a greater commitment and if Virginia needed it to be 80/20 I'm sure they would do that - however, with the comment from ffxfreak13 I'm sure they don't. No need to speculate or berate though - just wanted to spread some positivity around 🙂 Life sucks but the mind can make it quite lovely

My apologies if it seemed like I was berating you or the school--that was not my intention. I just find it difficult to understand how anyone can defend their policy of tossing aside OOS applicants for 2+ months.

EDIT: Also sorry for the double post.
 
But wouldn't we need to be interviewed first to be assigned a priority score (i.e. be put into the pool of possible acceptances)? Say I get a score of 3, and I get an acceptance with the first round, and then someone else later on gets a 2. That person would still only be eligible for the 2-4th rounds of acceptances despite having a better priority score than me. Does that make sense? I hope I'm making my scenario clear. If that's the case, then being interviewed late is still a pretty big disadvantage.

More desirable applicants are interviewed earlier, as with every school in the US. What you're asking makes perfect sense. However, when a school interviews ~1000 applicants to only accept ~220 over 4 rounds, there aren't going to be many statistical outliers of individuals getting perfect file reviews who interview at the end of the season. That's why you can interview in September and not hear back til the end of the cycle, there are just that many desirable applicants.

Yeah, but aren't these schools targeting different groups of applicants? A Virginian may apply to all of these schools but only get an acceptance to one of these schools. I find it hard to believe that a state as large as Virginia can only muster 500 ish qualified applicants (I'm assuming not everyone from Virginia will stay in Virginia).

Yes and no. You can go by USNWR rankings if you want to judge each school. UVA has the most NIH dollars, EVMS targets the Hampton Roads area as per their charter, VTech is Scientist-Physicians, etc. All depends on preferences for location, "brand name," and scholarship dollars.
 
Yes and no. You can go by USNWR rankings if you want to judge each school. UVA has the most NIH dollars, EVMS targets the Hampton Roads area as per their charter, VTech is Scientist-Physicians, etc. All depends on preferences for location, "brand name," and scholarship dollars.

I'm not looking at USNWR rankings to judge these schools, I'm looking at their funding, their students, their GPA/MCAT averages, their missions, etc. Of course there's some overlap and they're all great schools in their own way, but by your own explanation you have defined the separation in student bodies for these schools. Again, I don't mind that VCU is 50/50, in fact, that's good for me. I just don't think it's a good or fair policy to antagonize so many of your possible OOS students this way. Maybe you see it differently, but let's just agree to disagree.

Either way, I appreciate you taking so much time out of your day to explain all this. Funny enough, it makes me feel that the student body at VCU is a great one, even if I don't agree with VCU's admission's policies.
 
No one, no matter how good their stats are or whether they're IS or OOS, is entitled to anything in this process. All of this complaining about not being reviewed "just because" you're OOS comes off as extremely entitled. Remember that VCU typically fills the class with 50% OOS students and they will not overfill the class, meaning that if you receive an II even as late as February/March, you are interviewing for a seat, not for a spot on the waitlist. The OOS waitlist moves considerably, as well. Just hang tight and realize that this will be over before you know it, and you'll have your answer soon.
 
No one, no matter how good their stats are or whether they're IS or OOS, is entitled to anything in this process. All of this complaining about not being reviewed "just because" you're OOS comes off as extremely entitled. Remember that VCU typically fills the class with 50% OOS students and they will not overfill the class, meaning that if you receive an II even as late as February/March, you are interviewing for a seat, not for a spot on the waitlist. The OOS waitlist moves considerably, as well. Just hang tight and realize that this will be over before you know it, and you'll have your answer soon.
As an applicant we are "entitled" to be reviewed.
 
No matter what the stats are they have to look at our applications before a decision is to be made. So for us to ask them for them to review our application is not entitlement.
 
No one, no matter how good their stats are or whether they're IS or OOS, is entitled to anything in this process. All of this complaining about not being reviewed "just because" you're OOS comes off as extremely entitled. Remember that VCU typically fills the class with 50% OOS students and they will not overfill the class, meaning that if you receive an II even as late as February/March, you are interviewing for a seat, not for a spot on the waitlist. The OOS waitlist moves considerably, as well. Just hang tight and realize that this will be over before you know it, and you'll have your answer soon.

Careful, you might fall off that high horse. If I've paid my application fees, yes I'm entitled to at least be reviewed. What the outcome of that review is, is another matter. No one is saying they're entitled to an acceptance. But yes, I expect them to look at my application thoroughly and completely.
 
No one, no matter how good their stats are or whether they're IS or OOS, is entitled to anything in this process. All of this complaining about not being reviewed "just because" you're OOS comes off as extremely entitled. Remember that VCU typically fills the class with 50% OOS students and they will not overfill the class, meaning that if you receive an II even as late as February/March, you are interviewing for a seat, not for a spot on the waitlist. The OOS waitlist moves considerably, as well. Just hang tight and realize that this will be over before you know it, and you'll have your answer soon.

you must be really pleasant to talk to at parties
 
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I'm not looking at USNWR rankings to judge these schools, I'm looking at their funding, their students, their GPA/MCAT averages, their missions, etc. Of course there's some overlap and they're all great schools in their own way, but by your own explanation you have defined the separation in student bodies for these schools. Again, I don't mind that VCU is 50/50, in fact, that's good for me. I just don't think it's a good or fair policy to antagonize so many of your possible OOS students this way. Maybe you see it differently, but let's just agree to disagree.

Either way, I appreciate you taking so much time out of your day to explain all this. Funny enough, it makes me feel that the student body at VCU is a great one, even if I don't agree with VCU's admission's policies.

I'm happy to be of any help. Our class has got along phenomenally thus far and I've made some pretty good friends already (and knew no one before arriving for orientation).

Just to clarify my earlier point, EVERYONE who interviews at VCU is interviewing for a seat, not a waitlist spot. VCU will not overfill the class at any time (unlike many other schools), which is why they're "stingy" with releasing initial acceptances. I am confident that everyone who submitted a complete application will receive a fair and thorough review by the Admissions Committee, although it may not be the speediest process. Coming from someone who received their first acceptance this past March, I'd rather have the delayed gratification than a hasty "maybe.
 
I'm happy to be of any help. Our class has got along phenomenally thus far and I've made some pretty good friends already (and knew no one before arriving for orientation).

Just to clarify my earlier point, EVERYONE who interviews at VCU is interviewing for a seat, not a waitlist spot. VCU will not overfill the class at any time (unlike many other schools), which is why they're "stingy" with releasing initial acceptances. I am confident that everyone who submitted a complete application will receive a fair and thorough review by the Admissions Committee, although it may not be the speediest process. Coming from someone who received their first acceptance this past March, I'd rather have the delayed gratification than a hasty "maybe.

thanks for the kind words of encouragement! It is so debilitating to wait as an OOS at this school, I just am so nervous about a rejection because I spent a week on VCU's secondary prompt.
 
I'm only saying that for the OOS schools I applied to because I already have feedback. I have been reviewed and already received feedback beyond the "complete" messages the OOS schools initially sent (except VCU of course). I can see it on the portals. It means I was reviewed based of chronological order of when my app was submitted. I did my research based off past forums and what each of the schools say on their websites. I've already interviewed at two OOS schools before any IS school had contacted me but those were for various reasons of completion like a letter of recommendation.

Congratulations though on the 4% II! Good luck!
Oh cool. Hopefully by this time next month we'll both have acceptances 🙂 Good luck! The wait is killer
 
I'm happy to be of any help. Our class has got along phenomenally thus far and I've made some pretty good friends already (and knew no one before arriving for orientation).

Just to clarify my earlier point, EVERYONE who interviews at VCU is interviewing for a seat, not a waitlist spot. VCU will not overfill the class at any time (unlike many other schools), which is why they're "stingy" with releasing initial acceptances. I am confident that everyone who submitted a complete application will receive a fair and thorough review by the Admissions Committee, although it may not be the speediest process. Coming from someone who received their first acceptance this past March, I'd rather have the delayed gratification than a hasty "maybe.

Are you saying there is no waitlist? I don't understand how a school can have a 1:1 interview to seat spot if they interview 600+ for 200-ish seats. Not trying to spark another argument, just genuinely curious how that works. If you're not offered a spot are you automatically rejected? Sounds like it'd be pretty easy to have a class that isn't full if that's the case...
 
Are you saying there is no waitlist? I don't understand how a school can have a 1:1 interview to seat spot if they interview 600+ for 200-ish seats. Not trying to spark another argument, just genuinely curious how that works. If you're not offered a spot are you automatically rejected? Sounds like it'd be pretty easy to have a class that isn't full if that's the case...

Every person who interviews has the opportunity to "claim" a seat if they have a high enough priority score that places them in the top 50-60 applicants for the next acceptance date. You'll find that toward the end of the season some schools have offered out all of their seats before completing all of their interviews. When this happens, the school will sometimes inform the applicant before the interview. Other times, they will not. Hence, you might see some very frustrated posts around the February-March timeframe about applicants being informed AT the interview that all the seats are currently filled and they are interviewing for waitlist positions. Not cool if you ask me.
 
Every person who interviews has the opportunity to "claim" a seat if they have a high enough priority score that places them in the top 50-60 applicants for the next acceptance date. You'll find that toward the end of the season some schools have offered out all of their seats before completing all of their interviews. When this happens, the school will sometimes inform the applicant before the interview. Other times, they will not. Hence, you might see some very frustrated posts around the February-March timeframe about applicants being informed AT the interview that all the seats are currently filled and they are interviewing for waitlist positions. Not cool if you ask me.

So I'm assuming there are no more interviews after that last acceptance date?
 
So I'm assuming there are no more interviews after that last acceptance date?

I think interviews end early March and the last pre-waitlist acceptance date is mid-March.

If I remember from last year, UCincinnati and MCW let their pre-interview applicants know that they were having some waitlist only interview days.
 
I believe there are approx 108 spots reserved in the class for OOS. Traditionally, how far down on the list does the school need to go to fill the OOS quota? In other words, how many total acceptances are offered to interviewed OOS candidates ? I would think it would be significantly more than for IS. Any reply with accurate info would be appreciated.
 
No one, no matter how good their stats are or whether they're IS or OOS, is entitled to anything in this process. All of this complaining about not being reviewed "just because" you're OOS comes off as extremely entitled. Remember that VCU typically fills the class with 50% OOS students and they will not overfill the class, meaning that if you receive an II even as late as February/March, you are interviewing for a seat, not for a spot on the waitlist. The OOS waitlist moves considerably, as well. Just hang tight and realize that this will be over before you know it, and you'll have your answer soon.
Pardon me? If I paid money to have my application reviewed, then I deserve to have my application reviewed. It is disingenuous for an institution to accept money for applications only to have those applications sit on a desk collecting dust. Expecting to receive the service for which I paid money for is not entitled, especially when I had to work my butt off to afford these applications. Further, I'm not even waiting for a decision on an interview invite or rejection, but a priority score. Who knows how much longer I'll have to wait to find out where I stand for an interview? Perhaps my application will get reviewed sometime in November, but by that point I'll have already seen at least seven other schools and will have given up on VCU. If the review process for OOS is so slow that it debilitates OOS students from fairly assessing the school (we're interviewing them as much as they're interviewing us!), then they should be upfront about that so we can make an informed decision about where to invest our limited application money.

And this isn't just about how backlogged VCU is. I understand that medical schools fall behind and I will never be upset over backlog. However, when VCU failed to notify me that I was granted a supplemental, was rude to me when I called to ask about the supplemental, skipped over my application to review applicants who submitted after me and then told me they will not even consider accommodating ITA requests, I have started to feel like applying here was a waste of time and money.
 
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man.. yall need to relax a bit

Like if you already applied and paid the application fee, there isnt much else you can do but wait. Take a nap, watch Netflix, go to a bar, get some pizza, hang with friends, ask that cute girl/guy in your physics lecture out on a date, go skydiving, like damn enjoy life and get your mind off it
 
man.. yall need to relax a bit

Like if you already applied and paid the application fee, there isnt much else you can do but wait. Take a nap, watch Netflix, go to a bar, get some pizza, hang with friends, ask that cute girl/guy in your physics lecture out on a date, go skydiving, like damn enjoy life and get your mind off it

rachiie has a legitimate complaint.

She'll land at a much better school than VCU, though - so it's not like she's only complaining because VCU is her only hope. 😛
 
rachiie has a legitimate complaint.

She'll land at a much better school than VCU, though - so it's not like she's only complaining because VCU is her only hope. 😛
I actually really liked VCU at the beginning of the cycle and this school was one of my top choices until recently. I've had some time to fall in love with other schools though and my interview funds are running quite low. I'm disappointed that I submitted my supplemental early enough so that I could plan a way to afford traveling here for an interview, if offered one, but it seems like now I won't even be able to afford to travel here by the time they get around to my application.

I don't post on here for the purpose of bashing VCU. Each school that I've interviewed at has asked me to review their interview day for the purpose of improving it for the next year. I hope that VCU can see how frustrated their applicants are with their review process and correct this next year. It's important for the school to realize that their applicants weren't notified of their supplemental application and that they feel disrespected when they call the school. It's also important for them to realize that other schools are more efficient with processing applications and VCU is losing applicant interest with the way they process applications.
 
Below is my latest status:

"The committee's file review indicates that they are interested in your candidacy. However, due to the increase in the applicant pool this year, it is clear we MAY be unable to interview all the candidates at your priority score. If we do find that we are unable to grant an interview, you will be notified by e-mail in March."

What the heck is that all about? Is this their way of dragging me along all cycle without outright rejecting me?
 
Below is my latest status:

"The committee's file review indicates that they are interested in your candidacy. However, due to the increase in the applicant pool this year, it is clear we MAY be unable to interview all the candidates at your priority score. If we do find that we are unable to grant an interview, you will be notified by e-mail in March."

What the heck is that all about? Is this their way of dragging me along all cycle without outright rejecting me?

Bro, if you read just a little through this thread, you'll see that many people who have gotten your status have received an II later. You're in a good spot.
 
Why don't they just review a file and decide whether or not to extend an II? That makes more sense than playin' games with various ambiguous statuses lol.

Jesus I am turning into the next Jalby. Time to leave this thread.
 
OOS non-trad here. I just submitted my secondary tonight. It didn't take them long to send it out because they got my primary on 9/10.

I know it's not an II, but maybe they're picking up the pace now?
 
OOS non-trad here. I just submitted my secondary tonight. It didn't take them long to send it out because they got my primary on 9/10.

I know it's not an II, but maybe they're picking up the pace now?

Still patiently waiting since 8/19 for a secondary 🙁
 
just checked my portal and i got the "The committee's file review indicates that they would like to consider your file further" message. i guess that's a good sign? haven't been outright rejected yet :laugh:

i checked the portal yesterday and it just had the usual "file complete" message that it has had for the past few weeks so i guess my status just changed within the past 24 hours!
 
just checked my portal and i got the "The committee's file review indicates that they would like to consider your file further" message. i guess that's a good sign? haven't been outright rejected yet :laugh:

i checked the portal yesterday and it just had the usual "file complete" message that it has had for the past few weeks so i guess my status just changed within the past 24 hours!

Complete?!
 
She has "7 II's", I'd be too happy to care about this school with that many II's.
Nah, this was her top choice.

VCU's not the only school putting early applicants on perpetual hold, so hold your z-snaps. Just ignore the speculations and move past this thread.
This will be my last post on this thread as well (unless I get an II of course : P . )
 
thanks for the kind words of encouragement! It is so debilitating to wait as an OOS at this school, I just am so nervous about a rejection because I spent a week on VCU's secondary prompt.

Waiting for *any* reply from each school is nerve-wracking. I still remember having my email minimized on the computer and freaking out whenever Inbox(1) came up haha. Your application is submitted and now it's out of your hands for the time being. Do everything you can to better yourself in the meantime, whether through classes, exercise, socializing, reading, spelunking, etc. It's a long process that'll be FAR more enjoyable if you're able to appreciate the ride.
 
Waiting for *any* reply from each school is nerve-wracking. I still remember having my email minimized on the computer and freaking out whenever Inbox(1) came up haha. Your application is submitted and now it's out of your hands for the time being. Do everything you can to better yourself in the meantime, whether through classes, exercise, socializing, reading, spelunking, etc. It's a long process that'll be FAR more enjoyable if you're able to appreciate the ride.
YES. I didn't want to return to this thread but I caved...
 
Waiting for *any* reply from each school is nerve-wracking. I still remember having my email minimized on the computer and freaking out whenever Inbox(1) came up haha. Your application is submitted and now it's out of your hands for the time being. Do everything you can to better yourself in the meantime, whether through classes, exercise, socializing, reading, spelunking, etc. It's a long process that'll be FAR more enjoyable if you're able to appreciate the ride.

Honestly, I understand and I should be doing that. Moreover, I should be happy with my 2 IIs, but when one puts in that much effort into a secondary, I think there is a reason to feel uptight and want the love to be reciprocated.
 
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Pardon me? If I paid money to have my application reviewed, then I deserve to have my application reviewed. It is disingenuous for an institution to accept money for applications only to have those applications sit on a desk collecting dust. Expecting to receive the service for which I paid money for is not entitled, especially when I had to work my butt off to afford these applications. Further, I'm not even waiting for a decision on an interview invite or rejection, but a priority score. Who knows how much longer I'll have to wait to find out where I stand for an interview? Perhaps my application will get reviewed sometime in November, but by that point I'll have already seen at least seven other schools and will have given up on VCU. If the review process for OOS is so slow that it debilitates OOS students from fairly assessing the school (we're interviewing them as much as they're interviewing us!), then they should be upfront about that so we can make an informed decision about where to invest our limited application money.

And this isn't just about how backlogged VCU is. I understand that medical schools fall behind and I will never be upset over backlog. However, when VCU failed to notify me that I was granted a supplemental, was rude to me when I called to ask about the supplemental, skipped over my application to review applicants who submitted after me and then told me they will not even consider accommodating ITA requests, I have started to feel like applying here was a waste of time and money.

lol didn't you say you were a fap recipient? wouldnt that negate your entire first paragraph? Also, I doubt the admissions office is incompetent. I'm sure they have actually reviewed your file, I'm sure they have reviewed mine as well. People who submitted after us have received status updates, so what does this tell you? The reviewer most likely passed up on our file, werent interested after their initial review, and put us in a pile to re-review at a later time. just chill out
 
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