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for those who have interviewed, what was your impression of Yale?
Now that I've concluded all the interviews I received, and am unlikely to get any more, Yale is my number one choice out of all the schools that offered me an interview.for those who have interviewed, what was your impression of Yale?
no, I mean what your impression was of the school. if you have a moment please let me know why it's your number one.Now that I've concluded all the interviews I received, and am unlikely to get any more, Yale is my number one choice out of all the schools that offered me an interview.
I'm current living in an unhealthy mixture of hope that Yale will accept me, and dread that it will not.
If you mean what my interview day impression of Yale was, see my MDApps.
My answer will not be very helpful to you, but here goes: Yale is my number one choice because my gut says so. In all my interviews, I was upfront about dermatology being my specialty of choice, despite advice I got from SDN not to do so (I have an acceptance, so at least one school did not care). Each school I interviewed at has a strong dermatology program or at least a good track record of students landing dermatology residencies, Yale included. People don't like New Haven, but it's close enough to NYC that New York is a train ride away, and I can live with that. Accessibility to a larger city is what tipped the balance between Yale and Duke, another good school in a location I do not like.no, I mean what your impression was of the school. if you have a moment please let me know why it's your number one.
I thought it was a fantastic school. It's very much a "make your own journey/mark" place. You can do nearly anything you want and pursue nearly anything you wish. So many resources and opportunities available, research-wise and clinical-wise. The school is very appreciative of applicant's individual journeys and experiences. Each student has something new and different to contribute and everyone seemed incredibly passionate about so many different things. Yale really supports following your own passions and you becoming your own doctor, I felt.for those who have interviewed, what was your impression of Yale?
Now that I've concluded all the interviews I received, and am unlikely to get any more, Yale is my number one choice out of all the schools that offered me an interview.
I'm current living in an unhealthy mixture of hope that Yale will accept me, and dread that it will not.
If you mean what my interview day impression of Yale was, see my MDApps.
Everyday I wake up and want to throw up. If I had a uterus, I would think I was pregnant.Preach! I have also made the cardinal sin of having a top choice medical school and live in a constant state of nausea about getting a decision.
Man, if I were pregnant I would name my baby Yale and send in the birth certificate as an LOIEveryday I wake up and want to throw up. If I had a uterus, I would think I was pregnant.
I do know a guy named Yale. He went to Princeton.Man, if I were pregnant I would name my baby Yale and send in the birth certificate as an LOI
What are MD Apps?Thank you so much!
Edit: Your MD Apps is very interesting to read. Thanks for the write-up!
definitely one of my top choices after interviewing! 1) The Yale System is almost too good to be true haha incredibly flexible curriculum that trusts the students to pursue their own passions. no mandatory classes or exams 😱 2) Required thesis that will make you more competitive for residency (they have an amazing match list) 3) The faculty and students that I interacted with all seemed very down to earth and couldn't stop talking about how great Yale is - it's a top tier school without the pretension 😉for those who have interviewed, what was your impression of Yale?
does no one else feel like there is maybe too much flexibility? like can there be some structure if you seek it?definitely one of my top choices after interviewing! 1) The Yale System is almost too good to be true haha incredibly flexible curriculum that trusts the students to pursue their own passions. no mandatory classes or exams 😱 2) Required thesis that will make you more competitive for residency (they have an amazing match list) 3) The faculty and students that I interacted with all seemed very down to earth and couldn't stop talking about how great Yale is - it's a top tier school without the pretension 😉
Everything exists, it is just all optional. Lectures, quizzes, small group sessions. Mandatory test at the end of each block. Mandatory clinical experience stuff. Mandatory research. There's a lot given for those who seek itdoes no one else feel like there is maybe too much flexibility? like can there be some structure if you seek it?
fair enoughEverything exists, it is just all optional. Lectures, quizzes, small group sessions. Mandatory test at the end of each block. Mandatory clinical experience stuff. Mandatory research. There's a lot given for those who seek it
I do know a guy named Yale. He went to Princeton.
Are the two of you talking 'bout the same guy? Yale Fan went to Harvard undergrad, now at Princeton for PhD. What a noob amiriteI actually know a guy named Yale Fan (Chinese family name). He went to Harvard.
Don't know but they interview MWF until the bitter last day in February so it just depends how far ahead they issue IIs. From what I have seen/heard, 2 weeks is the bare minimum notification time offered to applicants, but this has nothing to do with Yale specifically, just a very informed guessIs Yale still sending out IIs?
We are, indeed, talking about the same man.Are the two of you talking 'bout the same guy? Yale Fan went to Harvard undergrad, now at Princeton for PhD. What a noob amirite
We are, indeed, talking about the same man.
Everything exists, it is just all optional. Lectures, quizzes, small group sessions. Mandatory test at the end of each block. Mandatory clinical experience stuff. Mandatory research. There's a lot given for those who seek it
No, I do not agree. There are fewer blocks than most schools, thus fewer mandatory assessments. Most schools don't just have an end of block test, they also have many midterms/quizzes in between. Also, the assessments and clinical experiences are the only mandatory thing to do in preclinical years. Most other schools have some mix of required small group, PBL, lectures, some sort of required structured class time.Would you not agree then that the Yale system is just a glorified true pass/fail system?
This is because, as you said, there is a mandatory exam at the end of each block. I understand that the passing barrier might be a little lower than that of most schools but how is that different from a true pass/fail school that just takes tests at the end of blocks?
No, I do not agree. There are fewer blocks than most schools, thus fewer mandatory assessments. Most schools don't just have an end of block test, they also have many midterms/quizzes in between. Also, the assessments and clinical experiences are the only mandatory thing to do in preclinical years. Most other schools have some mix of required small group, PBL, lectures, some sort of required structured class time.
Above all, what Yale students and YSM purport as "the Yale system" is not just the curriculum structure. It is more of a school philosophy that says, "you can do whatever the **** you want in medical school," which is wayyyyyy different than what most schools could even come close to saying. There is no AOA, 70% get honors in clinicals, you can do a DIY curriculum across the University for a tuition-free 5th year. These are things very few other med schools in the country can match.
Who cares, I don't think this is widely publicized knowledge anyway so if the PDs don't know then grrrrrrrrreatThe 70% honors is so high. Doesn't the somewhat devalue the honors designation (not that I am complaining)?
Our only conclusion is that every YSM student (and HMS/SMS, which also does not have AOA) is AOA-level 😉now that I think about it..having no AOA really takes stress off.
No, I do not agree. There are fewer blocks than most schools, thus fewer mandatory assessments. Most schools don't just have an end of block test, they also have many midterms/quizzes in between. Also, the assessments and clinical experiences are the only mandatory thing to do in preclinical years. Most other schools have some mix of required small group, PBL, lectures, some sort of required structured class time.
Above all, what Yale students and YSM purport as "the Yale system" is not just the curriculum structure. It is more of a school philosophy that says, "you can do whatever the **** you want in medical school," which is wayyyyyy different than what most schools could even come close to saying. There is no AOA, 70% get honors in clinicals, you can do a DIY curriculum across the University for a tuition-free 5th year. These are things very few other med schools in the country can match.
Please stop! I'm practically drooling at this point!To add to the beauty of the curriculum described above, their clinicals are not separated by the common specialties. They combine surgery with emergency, ob with pediatrics, etc. and ther are no SHELF exams!
The exams are all taken truly anonymous with each student assigned a code that no administrators know is linked to you unless you fail two qualifiers. Then they work with you to get you up to speed. The faculty and staff are extremely invested in your success.
Any current MS's know when second look is? Trying to plan around the potential of a Yale acceptanCe before definitely booking flights for other SLW's.
Would you not agree then that the Yale system is just a glorified true pass/fail system?
This is because, as you said, there is a mandatory exam at the end of each block. I understand that the passing barrier might be a little lower than that of most schools but how is that different from a true pass/fail school that just takes tests at the end of blocks?
No, I do not agree. There are fewer blocks than most schools, thus fewer mandatory assessments. Most schools don't just have an end of block test, they also have many midterms/quizzes in between. Also, the assessments and clinical experiences are the only mandatory thing to do in preclinical years. Most other schools have some mix of required small group, PBL, lectures, some sort of required structured class time.
SLW was April 16-18 last year, which gives you a sense of when it normally is. I am not sure if Admissions has picked a date for SLW, but I can ask. (I'll be helping plan, so I should know when my life is going to get hectic anyway.)
What I tell my tour groups is that Yale actually is not pass / fail. Rather, regardless of whether you pass the qualifier (the mandatory end of block test at the end), you pass. Now, if you fail the qualifier, you do have to speak to the course director about what areas you need to work on moving forward. While it may be a subtle difference to some of you, I think it is important to note that there is no failing a master course (our block classes).
This is pretty accurate, but I would just clarify that we do have other items that are mandatory. For those who are particularly interested, there should be a list of what is required for a class to be mandatory on the YSM Curriculum website. For example, our Team Based Learning (TBL) sessions are mandatory (although they occur once every few weeks). Additionally, our Professional Ethics and Responsibility (PER) was also made mandatory recently. That being said, we only have one or two mandatory classes a week, generally, which is great.
Didn't want to nitpick, but I didn't want any of you to get here and say that it wasn't what you were expecting. 😉
Overall, super impressed with y'all's knowledge about Yale, and I'm looking forward to meeting many of you at SLW and in years to come. I know it's a hard wait, but it'll come quicker than you think. If any of you have questions or thoughts, let me know! I love to chat about YSM, so I'll do my best to answer any questions that come up!
Yes, theoretically. But you will not be allowed to consistently score below par and make a habit out of it.Just to clarify: so theoretically someone could score 0% on all the qualifiers (and then study a bunch and do really well on step 1) and nobody outside Yale would know?
Just to clarify: so theoretically someone could score 0% on all the qualifiers (and then study a bunch and do really well on step 1) and nobody outside Yale would know?
As @WesternBlot said, this won't really happen.The students who got selected into Yale are not exactly the types that would sleep well without at least trying to do well.Just to clarify: so theoretically someone could score 0% on all the qualifiers (and then study a bunch and do really well on step 1) and nobody outside Yale would know?
Do all that you can for financial aid ASAP.Hello all, this may be a stupid question but I missed the financial aid portion of the interview day (because interviews went longer than expected).
Do we apply for financial aid/scholarships when we are accepted or do we apply for them now?
Apply now - fill out your FAFSA and submit your Need Access form. Try to do your taxes before doing the FAFSA so it links straight to your tax return.Hello all, this may be a stupid question but I missed the financial aid portion of the interview day (because interviews went longer than expected).
Do we apply for financial aid/scholarships when we are accepted or do we apply for them now?
Apply for them asap. Yale has a very thoughtful fin aid algorithm that gets better every year:Hello all, this may be a stupid question but I missed the financial aid portion of the interview day (because interviews went longer than expected).
Do we apply for financial aid/scholarships when we are accepted or do we apply for them now?
nah don't tell us this. just gives false hope.I just want to point out that when they say decisions come out on march 10th it is usually announced a week earlier. Speaking from personal experience.
Don't troll.I just want to point out that when they say decisions come out on march 10th it is usually announced a week earlier. Speaking from personal experience.
0/10 job, get outta hereI just want to point out that when they say decisions come out on march 10th it is usually announced a week earlier. Speaking from personal experience.
*sounds airhorn*0/10 job, get outta here
How is it your personal experience if you got an II this cycle? And apparently got into medical school last cycle based on your post history? lollllllllllllll
Based on last year's cycle, March 10/11 was the expected date and, sure enough, the first posted acceptance was on March 10.I just want to point out that when they say decisions come out on march 10th it is usually announced a week earlier. Speaking from personal experience.
You're right. I guess I do need to explain my situation to give u some context. I am an international student. I applied to medical schools two years ago and was waitlisted at Yale but got accepted to another medical school. Unfortunately I didn't qualify for any financial aid at the school so I had to turn it down. So I applied to Yale again this year. That's why I know so much about Yale. Because I've gone thru it before (unsuccessfully). I hope this clears things up.0/10 job, get outta here
How is it your personal experience if you got an II this cycle? And apparently got into medical school last cycle based on your post history? lollllllllllllll
Ok cool but one year of their announcing earlier does not mean it "usually" happens like that. "Usually" means there is a trend of something happening. YSM does not have a trend of announcing earlier than they say.You're right. I guess I do need to explain my situation to give u some context. I am an international student. I applied to medical schools two years ago and was waitlisted at Yale but got accepted to another medical school. Unfortunately I didn't qualify for any financial aid at the school so I had to turn it down. So I applied to Yale again this year. That's why I know so much about Yale. Because I've gone thru it before (unsuccessfully). I hope this clears things up.
Well, here's to hoping it's early this year too!Ok cool but one year of their announcing earlier does not mean it "usually" happens like that. "Usually" means there is a trend of something happening. YSM does not have a trend of announcing earlier than they say.
You're in a tough spot, though, sending good wishes your way. Life is tough for internationals in our magnificent country...