2016-2017 Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences Application Thread

Discover Your Odds of Getting into Medical School
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Froggy25 said:
II for Oct 13th! Very excited, first of the cycle for me. Technically complete 8/12 and II on 8/26, but I received it 90 minutes after emailing my LOA so I'm kind of wishing I would have done that sooner lol.

2.95 cGPA
3.58 post-bac
511 MCAT
very non-trad with significant military experience
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congratulations 🙂
 
DrDwayneJohnson said:
So should I get my LOA sent in now? I was under the impression that it's sent after one is accepted. My source very well could have been wrong, though.
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I think it's better to do these things earlier rather than later. From what I remember reading on their website, USUHS won't send an offer of admission until they have the LOA, though you can interview without it on file. My perspective: why wait? I don't see anything to be gained by waiting, and I would hate to have an admission letter held up / slip away because USUHS is unsure if your unit/service will release you. If you're AD, my guess is that it will take awhile to get to space command and back, based on my previous experience with HQMC and Army HRC.
 
Rejected from here today. Good luck everyone.
 
Judson said:
Rejected from here today. Good luck everyone.
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sorry to hear that.. med school admissions is just so competitive these days! i have heard of people applying to med schools multiple times and getting in even on the fifth time. good luck with your other apps!
 
(hopefully not a silly question) Will service likely be partially overseas? Or is this just variable and depending on the situation?
 
ArmyGator said:
Ok people - here's the low down. USUHS is the best thing that will ever happen to you, and you all are smart, talented, and determined applicants - perfect for the school. When two perfect people are meant for each other, the universe and all its splendor brings them together. Bottom line up front, you'll make it. Believe in yourself, and believe in your strengths you so beautifully conveyed in your applications. I would say best of luck, but you don't need it. So I'm gonna close with saying that I can't wait till you are here apart of the team.
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such great words! just got my secondary today hope its not too late, and judging from your username youre a fellow florida gator?
 
First rejection, came in a letter in the mail today. Complete 07/12. Best of luck to everyone else applying and thanks for having the courage to serve this great nation in the military.


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HIV said:
First rejection, came in a letter in the mail today. Complete 07/12. Best of luck to everyone else applying and thanks for having the courage to serve this great nation in the military.


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Sorry to hear. Did you interview fairly early? and stats?
 
HIV said:
It was pre-interview rejection. cGPA 3.8 sGPA 3.75 MCAT 510 and 8 years of service in the National Guard.
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... weird

How were your EC's? Almost seems like yield protection
 
freak7 said:
... weird

How were your EC's? Almost seems like yield protection
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I have a red flag. Criminal charges from 6 years ago and they thought it could interfere with my ability to commission as an officer. Thankfully other schools are more forgiving and I have two interviews. But, I am disappointed that my chances to serve as a physician in the military greatly decreased. Hopefully, I can get a waiver approved after I get accepted elsewhere and take another route to becoming a physician in the military.
 
theonlytycrane said:
noobie question: What's yield protection?
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%Yield = 100(matriculants/offers)

If you interview someone with super high stats who basically would not accept your offer due to likely acceptances elsewhere, then you waste everybody's time and lowering your yield. It's easier/faster to just reject them outright with the knowledge they'll still probably get in somewhere else.
 
jhg1232 said:
such great words! just got my secondary today hope its not too late, and judging from your username youre a fellow florida gator?
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I don't think it is too late other wise they wouldn't have sent it to you! But, do get it done ASAP. And yes, I just came from UF, I miss that place especially being able to run the stadium.. any-who, go Gata!!
 
Practicing for my upcoming interview.............

Interviewer: What was the most difficult part of the application process?

Me: Hmmm....that's a good question. I've got to say filling out Form SF-86 and SF-86A. Finding all my living info for the past 7 years (6 locations), people who would verify my, all the countries I've travelled to in the past 7 years (8+), remember the dates of everywhere I've worked and finding people to verify that (mainly the addresses and phone numbers). Compared to this, I would say the rest of the application process has gone quite smoothly.

Winning answer, right??
 
purplefrog13 said:
Practicing for my upcoming interview.............

Interviewer: What was the most difficult part of the application process?

Me: Hmmm....that's a good question. I've got to say filling out Form SF-86 and SF-86A. Finding all my living info for the past 7 years (6 locations), people who would verify my, all the countries I've travelled to in the past 7 years (8+), remember the dates of everywhere I've worked and finding people to verify that (mainly the addresses and phone numbers). Compared to this, I would say the rest of the application process has gone quite smoothly.

Winning answer, right??
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Could be a winning answer...or a whining answer...
 
purplefrog13 said:
Practicing for my upcoming interview.............

Interviewer: What was the most difficult part of the application process?

Me: Hmmm....that's a good question. I've got to say filling out Form SF-86 and SF-86A. Finding all my living info for the past 7 years (6 locations), people who would verify my, all the countries I've travelled to in the past 7 years (8+), remember the dates of everywhere I've worked and finding people to verify that (mainly the addresses and phone numbers). Compared to this, I would say the rest of the application process has gone quite smoothly.

Winning answer, right??
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Welcome to the military. Get used to telling everyone your SSN
 
It was just my attempt at being funny....

not one of my strengths!
 
Not the best with military forms. For the SECNAV form, it states that we must present some ID material near the end of the form (i.e. A or B AND C). I have all the material, but are we supposed to scan it and incorporate it in the .pdf itself or simply bring it with us when we interview? Both?

Also, does anyone know if there is a dinner the night before the interviews? There was a few years ago, I believe.
 
sentra_hero said:
Not the best with military forms. For the SECNAV form, it states that we must present some ID material near the end of the form (i.e. A or B AND C). I have all the material, but are we supposed to scan it and incorporate it in the .pdf itself or simply bring it with us when we interview? Both?

Also, does anyone know if there is a dinner the night before the interviews? There was a few years ago, I believe.
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For the SECNAV....the form instructions are very explicit on not sending in your forms of ID. The SECNAV form itself has a certain date range before your interview that it needs to be sent in. If you open the instructions form, it should tell you.

I got an email for a dinner the night before my interview. I would assume they are going to continue that.
 
What are the general differences between Army and Navy route at USU? I have an interview on 10/13 and want to get a better idea on what to expect from these different pathways. Thanks in advance for anyone's input/advice!
 
zr_3535 said:
What are the general differences between Army and Navy route at USU? I have an interview on 10/13 and want to get a better idea on what to expect from these different pathways. Thanks in advance for anyone's input/advice!
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In general, the biggest difference between Army and Navy is the Navy's General Medical Office (GMO) track that half to two thirds of medical graduates go off to do following internship year. The Army for the most part trains straight through much like the civilian world.
 
Red Lobster Actual said:
In general, the biggest difference between Army and Navy is the Navy's General Medical Office (GMO) track that half to two thirds of medical graduates go off to do following internship year. The Army for the most part trains straight through much like the civilian world.
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That was my understanding as well, but a few people have told me about the BrigadeSurgeon tour that most army docs do at some point after residency. Do you know any specifics about this?
 
purplefrog13 said:
That was my understanding as well, but a few people have told me about the BrigadeSurgeon tour that most army docs do at some point after residency. Do you know any specifics about this?
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Yea...so the Brigade Surgeons are pretty high ranking medical officers (O-4 and above) working at that level of organization so you would be in charge of the health of thousands of soldiers. From what I have heard this is mostly an administrative position as you plan for and maintain the medical readiness of the brigade.

There are also Battalion Surgeons that are more junior officers that take care of about 1000 soldiers. These medical officers are functionally equivalent to the Navy's GMOs. The difference being is that in the Army you can be tasked with this billet after residency training. Brigade Surgeons too now that I think about it. Another caveat is that the first billet one receives post residency will be in your specialty. So the brigade or battalion surgeon tours might show up in one's later career in the Army.

Unfortunately I'm Navy so besides this small spiel I do not know much more about these tours. Hopefully one of my Army colleagues can comment on this.
 
Anyone complete since like.... June or July that still hasn't gotten a rejection or II?
 
Hey all, was wondering what my chances of acceptance are. No military experience (you all can enjoy the irony of that), but I genuinely feel that serving this country as a medical officer is the ultimate service and am seriously considering USUHS as my first choice. I was just made aware of this school today, submitted my primary app (initially verified 7/12) and could have well-written secondaries submitted by the end of the week. Anyone care to weigh in? Please be honest & realistic!

MCAT: 515 (131,125,131,128)
UG: Molecular Biology - 3.52 (strong upward GPA trend; averaged 3.79 junior/senior year with many more UD courses; B.S - 4 years)
G: Physiology - 3.68 (M.S - 1 year)
LizzyM Score: ~70-71 (not sure how graduate GPA factors into the score)
Moderate Research Experience - Poster Presentation in 2014
70 Hours in Emergency Department
80 Hours of M.D Shadowing (70/80 shadowing in operating room)
First Application to USUHS; Overall Re-applicant
 
HopefulPilot said:
~32% of matriculants have prior military experience so the majority are like you

I'd shadow a military doc or at least talk to one about their experience before committing to 14+ years on active duty
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Noted. Thank you! How are my chances as far as applying this late in the cycle?
 
SergeantBuzzKill said:
Noted. Thank you! How are my chances as far as applying this late in the cycle?
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I would say submit and find out. It costs nothing to do that. Judging chances right now is hard to do because guessing into how the admissions committee make decisions is a crap shoot. If you are going for MD I would apply broadly because it is getting late and the more lines you have out the better chance you'll get a bite.
 
jcve34 said:
I would say submit and find out. It costs nothing to do that. Judging chances right now is hard to do because guessing into how the admissions committee make decisions is a crap shoot. If you are going for MD I would apply broadly because it is getting late and the more lines you have out the better chance you'll get a bite.
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That makes sense to me. Just for clarification, most of my applications are complete (primary + secondary submitted: ~20), as I submitted my primary app back in June. However, I just discovered this school yesterday and love the opportunities it provides. I always wanted to enlist and this seems like the perfect fit.
 
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SergeantBuzzKill said:
That makes sense to me. Just for clarification, most of my applications are complete (primary + secondary submitted: ~20), as I submitted my primary app back in June. However, I just discovered this school yesterday and love the opportunities it provides. I always wanted to enlist, but didn't want my intellect to go to waste. This seems like the perfect fit.
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Yes, because there are absolutely no enlisted jobs that require a person to be intelligent...
That attitude will do you no favors in the military.
 
SergeantBuzzKill said:
That makes sense to me. Just for clarification, most of my applications are complete (primary + secondary submitted: ~20), as I submitted my primary app back in June. However, I just discovered this school yesterday and love the opportunities it provides. I always wanted to enlist, but didn't want my intellect to go to waste. This seems like the perfect fit.
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TurtleAL312 said:
Yes, because there are absolutely no enlisted jobs that require a person to be intelligent...
That attitude will do you no favors in the military.
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Yeah you are in for a rude awakening. Any decent NCO will make you feel stupid as an officer when you mess up. Trust me I've had to question my intelligence a few times because of those run ins.
 
TurtleAL312 said:
Yes, because there are absolutely no enlisted jobs that require a person to be intelligent...
That attitude will do you no favors in the military.
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I did not mean any disrespect, all I meant was that I could (probably) do more with my particular skills in the medical field and didn't know until now that I could bridge the two. I now realize that my language could and should have been more carefully examined. I am in NO WAY indicating that enlisting suddenly categorizes you as unintelligent. That was my mistake, and I take full responsibility for how I came off.
 
SergeantBuzzKill said:
That makes sense to me. Just for clarification, most of my applications are complete (primary + secondary submitted: ~20), as I submitted my primary app back in June. However, I just discovered this school yesterday and love the opportunities it provides. I always wanted to enlist, but didn't want my intellect to go to waste. This seems like the perfect fit.
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Not to belabor the point as others are already letting you know, but you'll want to divorce yourself from that notion and any others that may even hint at not respecting those you seek to treat.

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T800'sThumb said:
Not to belabor the point as others are already letting you know, but you'll want to divorce yourself from that notion and any others that may even hint at not respecting those you seek to treat.

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I have family members/friends that currently serve and have served for the US Army/NG; I respect soldiers much more than you think. It really was an issue of bad wording. Hopefully my interpersonal skills in medicine will more than make up for my dumb@ss writing skills.
 
SergeantBuzzKill said:
I have family members/friends that currently serve and have served for the US Army/NG; I respect soldiers much more than you think. It really was an issue of bad wording. Hopefully my interpersonal skills in medicine will more than make up for my dumb@ss writing skills.
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I've belabored the point.

I don't think you actively disrespect enlisted; I'm just trying to caution you from going down this thread of thought. Specifically, i want to warn against doing this in your secondary and, hopefully, your interviews.

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Hey all! I turned in my secondary about two weeks ago and emailed my photograph. Are we supposed to receive a complete email from our advisor?
 
michellesuzie said:
Hey all! I turned in my secondary about two weeks ago and emailed my photograph. Are we supposed to receive a complete email from our advisor?
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No, but if you want a completion status update just email admissions or your assigned contact.
 
michellesuzie said:
Hey all! I turned in my secondary about two weeks ago and emailed my photograph. Are we supposed to receive a complete email from our advisor?
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If you request confirmation thru email they will email you back to confirm, but only after your AMCAS has been verified, too
 
HopefulPilot said:
Uber onto base shouldn't be an issue for Cac holders right?
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Correct, as long as one person in the vehicle has a CaC. With that said though, the Uber wont be allowed on base to pick you up. You'll have to catch the shuttle out to the metro stop most likely and get picked up there
 
HopefulPilot said:
Uber onto base shouldn't be an issue for Cac holders right?
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That's what I thought too, but on Walter Reed's website (found it on the Gate Schedule page), it says that all vehicles without military stickers, including taxi cabs, will be searched regardless if an occupant has a military ID. Not a big deal though, I would just give yourself a little extra time if you're coming in in the morning. They might not even do it and just say that they do.
 
What is it like to serve as a physician in the Public Health Service?

What about practicing psychiatry in the uniformed services? How does psychiatry practice and experience differ from one branch to another?
 
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