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Man, I really wish SIU would tell me if I have a chance of getting off the AWPA list. Like... am I gonna be one of the 10-30% that never get off? In a month, will I be celebrating? I just can't take the waiting. I can't think of almost anything else other than what may or may not happen in the next couple months. This cycle has worn me out 😬
 
IAintNeverSeen2Pretty... said:
Man, I really wish SIU would tell me if I have a chance of getting off the AWPA list. Like... am I gonna be one of the 10-30% that never get off? In a month, will I be celebrating? I just can't take the waiting. I can't think of almost anything else other than what may or may not happen in the next couple months. This cycle has worn me out 😬
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Is it really only 10-30% that dont get off? The three people that i know that applied last year all didnt get in. Ofc its only 3 people but i thought alot more ppl dont get off awpa. Jus asking becuse if its actually 10-30% then there might still be hope 🤞🏾🤞🏾😭😭
 
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Beth says that historically, it's 10-20% of people who don't get off. But it varies. Often it ends up being that only 70% of the people on AWPA get off. It really depends.
SGMED said:
Is it really only 10-30% that dont get off? The three people that i know that applied last year all didnt get in. Ofc its only 3 people but i thought alot more ppl dont get off awpa
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SGMED said:
Is it really only 10-30% that dont get off? The three people that i know that applied last year all didnt get in. Ofc its only 3 people but i thought alot more ppl dont get off awpa. Jus asking becuse if its actually 10-30% then there might still be hope 🤞🏾🤞🏾😭😭
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Do you mind sharing the stats of those on the list that didn’t get accepted but were AWPA?
 
SGMED said:
They’re mcat scores were a little lower, 505-507 but their gpas were around 3.6-3.7
SGMED said:
They’re mcat scores were a little lower, 505-507 but their gpas were around 3.6-3.7
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are you sure that was the reason or something else? only asking bc i know siu is big about their mission statement so it's like they are really looking for rural health and primary care folks. i only say that bc i know of folks accepted with way lower mcat scores like 500..
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anyone accepted that actually knows what can increase your place on that that AWPA list lol?
 
Last year I was not accepted from AWPA. I scored a 501 on the MCAT and had a 3.9 GPA.
This year was basically the same because I didn't retake the MCAT, but I did get more shadowing hours, a year more of work experience, and I graduated with my bachelors in medical science. I'm still hanging out on the AWPA list, so I guess I don't know what could've increased my rank. Maybe MCAT scores do mean more to them than they make it seem.
 
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Last year I was not accepted from AWPA. I scored a 501 on the MCAT and had a 4.9 GPA.
This year was basically the same because I didn't retake the MCAT, but I did get more shadowing hours, a year more of work experience, and I graduated with my bachelors in medical science. I'm still hanging out on the AWPA list, so I guess I don't know what could've increased my rank. Maybe MCAT scores do mean more to them than they make it seem.
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oh my that really sucks. i really thought from what it seems to me mcat scores dont matter as much to them, but maybe it does. i know they are more about their mission statement though, would you say you fit that rural health picture they are looking for? man this sucks lol
 
futurecoffeedoc said:
oh my that really sucks. i really thought from what it seems to me mcat scores dont matter as much to them, but maybe it does. i know they are more about their mission statement though, would you say you fit that rural health picture they are looking for? man this sucks lol
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I really wanna go here and increase my chances for next yr lol
 
futurecoffeedoc said:
oh my that really sucks. i really thought from what it seems to me mcat scores dont matter as much to them, but maybe it does. i know they are more about their mission statement though, would you say you fit that rural health picture they are looking for? man this sucks lol
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I feel like I do. I knew that I wanted to practice family medicine before I applied. I live in Quincy, IL which is in western Illinois. However, I was born in Peoria, IL so I don't know which they go off of. I've also completed two terms of service in the AmeriCorps. The goal of my first term of service was increasing literacy rates in rural Illinois and the goal of my second term of service was educating a rural Illinois area on public health topics (maternal/fetal health, obesity, west nile virus prevention, medication/drug safety, and sexual health).

Maybe I just interview terribly, but I don't know I feel pretty confident about my interview skills too.
 
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jschuaa said:
I feel like I do. I knew that I wanted to practice family medicine before I applied. I live in Quincy, IL which is in western Illinois. However, I was born in Peoria, IL so I don't know which they go off of. I've also completed two terms of service in the AmeriCorps. The goal of my first term of service was increasing literacy rates in rural Illinois and the goal of my second term of service was educating a rural Illinois area on public health topics (maternal/fetal health, obesity, west nile virus prevention, medication/drug safety, and sexual health).

Maybe I just interview terribly, but I don't know I feel pretty confident about my interview skills too.
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Holy cow you’ve done so much for the community. I would think that would guarantee you an A. My fingers are crossed you!
 
Are there any current students that can comment on the work load over winter break? My parents are planning a trip and it wouldn't be worth going if I will be busy studying!
 
jschuaa said:
I feel like I do. I knew that I wanted to practice family medicine before I applied. I live in Quincy, IL which is in western Illinois. However, I was born in Peoria, IL so I don't know which they go off of. I've also completed two terms of service in the AmeriCorps. The goal of my first term of service was increasing literacy rates in rural Illinois and the goal of my second term of service was educating a rural Illinois area on public health topics (maternal/fetal health, obesity, west nile virus prevention, medication/drug safety, and sexual health).

Maybe I just interview terribly, but I don't know I feel pretty confident about my interview skills too.
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yeah that makes no sense at all and just confuses me because I agree with the other girl, i wouldve assumed you got accepted. maybe your letters of rec? idk thats really odd..
 
futurecoffeedoc said:
yeah that makes no sense at all and just confuses me because I agree with the other girl, i wouldve assumed you got accepted. maybe your letters of rec? idk thats really odd..
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SIU is more holistic than most other schools, but they are still a university and they still do care about MCAT and GPA. jschuaa is definitely within the range of accepted candidates for MCAT, and he has a great GPA that's well above SIU's average. SIU also definitely loves rural commitment since most of downstate IL is so rural and all the other medical schools in the state are in the northern third of IL.

I've worked with rural communities for 3 years and have a 3.97 GPA with 184 credit hours and a 509 MCAT. Still hanging out on AWPA. AWPA movement is supposed to pick up at the end of April/beginning of May. Definitely not worried yet. We aren't at the "panicking" point of the cycle yet lol
 
IAintNeverSeen2Pretty... said:
SIU is more holistic than most other schools, but they are still a university and they still do care about MCAT and GPA. jschuaa is definitely within the range of accepted candidates for MCAT, and he has a great GPA that's well above SIU's average. SIU also definitely loves rural commitment since most of downstate IL is so rural and all the other medical schools in the state are in the northern third of IL.

I've worked with rural communities for 3 years and have a 3.97 GPA with 184 credit hours and a 509 MCAT. Still hanging out on AWPA. AWPA movement is supposed to pick up at the end of April/beginning of May. Definitely not worried yet. We aren't at the "panicking" point of the cycle yet lol
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Yeah I agree! I had 3.92 GPA and 507 MCAT with over 3 years experience working in healthcare (pharmacy tech, home health caregiver, phlebotomist/lab assistant) and was a D1 student athlete all 4 years of undergrad along with research and working with populations living below the poverty line. Still waiting on an A but remaining hopeful. 🤞🏼
 
Anyone get placed on ranked alternate status? Aka the soft rejection? Why do they place applicants in this category when it basically means they have no chance of getting accepted?
 
dralan1010 said:
Anyone get placed on ranked alternate status? Aka the soft rejection? Why do they place applicants in this category when it basically means they have no chance of getting accepted?
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sorry to hear 🙁 it's really just to cover their tails in the unlikely event that everyone they have already accepted, or will accept from AWPA, turns down the offer
 
ice cheems said:
sorry to hear 🙁 it's really just to cover their tails in the unlikely event that everyone they have already accepted, or will accept from AWPA, turns down the offer
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I would suggest a Ranked Alternate List is to create additional opportunities for those highly competitive applicants. Certainly, just about everyone that even applies is highly qualified in their own right. Everyone applying has research, direct patient contact hours, commitment to the underserved through volunteerism, shadowing, outstanding LORs and High GPAs in competitive majors from rigorous universities and strong MCAT scores the average being 511.2 for matriculants across the 150 MD Schools. In summary, competition is very tough and it is a triumph to even get an interview invite. Hang in there, good things will happen and stay positive you have done great to get this far in the process!
 
I recieved an acceptance to the Lincoln Scholars Program today and was wondering if anyone else got an A or if you recieved an acceptance to the LSP earlier?
 
phosphofructokinase-1 said:
Does anyone know SIU's requirements for the Choose Your Medical School Tool?
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MSAR says you are supposed to Commit to Enroll by 4/30, which is super early...

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IAintNeverSeen2Pretty... said:
MSAR says you are supposed to Commit to Enroll by 4/30, which is super early...

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I had thought there was a "Plan to Enroll" and "Commit to Enroll" due April 30th for a single school. In terms of calendar, it may not be that early, the large majority of students know their first choice of all Acceptances they have currently received (Plan to Enroll) if you are still waitlisted on a more preferred school. If you get an acceptance off the waitlist for a more preferred school after April 30th you change your plan to enroll setting to the new school. If you are not waitlisted on a school you prefer to your current acceptance then you pretty much know where you are going and by selecting (commit to enroll) you really help the school plan their class. Institutional aid is already out by then and the COA is transparent.
 
WHOSrgn said:
I had thought there was a "Plan to Enroll" and "Commit to Enroll" due April 30th for a single school. In terms of calendar, it may not be that early, the large majority of students know their first choice of all Acceptances they have currently received (Plan to Enroll) if you are still waitlisted on a more preferred school. If you get an acceptance off the waitlist for a more preferred school after April 30th you change your plan to enroll setting to the new school. If you are not waitlisted on a school you prefer to your current acceptance then you pretty much know where you are going and by selecting (commit to enroll) you really help the school plan their class. Institutional aid is already out by then and the COA is transparent.
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I believe that "Commit to Enroll" does not even open up until the 30th. For me "Plan to Enroll" was the only option.
 
WHOSrgn said:
I had thought there was a "Plan to Enroll" and "Commit to Enroll" due April 30th for a single school. In terms of calendar, it may not be that early, the large majority of students know their first choice of all Acceptances they have currently received (Plan to Enroll) if you are still waitlisted on a more preferred school. If you get an acceptance off the waitlist for a more preferred school after April 30th you change your plan to enroll setting to the new school. If you are not waitlisted on a school you prefer to your current acceptance then you pretty much know where you are going and by selecting (commit to enroll) you really help the school plan their class. Institutional aid is already out by then and the COA is transparent.
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I believe that "Commit to Enroll" does not even open up until the 30th. For me "Plan to Enroll" was the only option.
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You're supposed to narrow down to 3 acceptances by 4/15. You're supposed to Plan to Enroll at 1 school by 4/30. Commit to enroll deadlines are set by individual schools and usually aren't until summertime because there's usually waitlist movement through at least May. Once you select "Commit to enroll," you are giving up your position on any waitlists and any other acceptances. It's the end of the line. Plan to enroll means you can still get off a waitlist and choose that new school.

I also do not have "commit to enroll" as an option yet. I agree - I believe it doesn't open up until 4/30.

I will probably go ahead an email SIU admissions sometime this week or next to ask for clarification, so I don't mess anything up lol
 
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they're talking about the Lincoln Scholar Program, which if I remember correctly is the one where you stay in Carbondale all four years and have a focus on rural/primary care (?)
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It is rural based, yes, and they focus on family medicine, pediatrics, internal medicine, and general surgery.
 
For those of you who interviewed for the LSP, how was it like compared to the first interview we had to do?

Thank you!!
 
glycolysis! said:
For those of you who interviewed for the LSP, how was it like compared to the first interview we had to do?

Thank you!!
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It was more structured for me than the regular interviews. My interviewers for the regular MD program didn't really have any prepared questions. The interviews were just like "tell me about yourself" and then " what questions do you have." The LSP interview had some prepared questions and some situation-based "what would you do?" type questions. Nothing out of left field, but more structured than the previous interviews.
 
glycolysis! said:
For those of you who interviewed for the LSP, how was it like compared to the first interview we had to do?

Thank you!!
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I had multiple questions all on the subject of "Why rural/underserved medicine?" which makes since as thats the mission of LSP. I agree with IAintNeverSeen2Pretty that it is more structured like the interviewers have a list of questions to get answers for. I recommend looking over the LSP curriculum and seeing the difference between it and the traditional path so you can discuss why LSP is an even better fit for you.

Good Luck!
 
Is it too late to apply to the Lincoln scholars program?
 
SGMED said:
Is it too late to apply to the Lincoln scholars program?
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I do not know, but LSP is rolling admissions so the sooner you apply the better. I would call the admissions office and they will answer or redirect you to LSP for them to answer.
 
SGMED said:
Yea i just called them and they said they were still taking applications so i might apply for it tonight! Thanks guy
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so i sent in my application like 2 hours and they already said i would get an interview. Did that happen for anyone else who applied to the LSP program? I am jus surprised it was so fast. Also does being in the program mean you have to commit to rural medicine? My entire med school application was focused on rural medicine and Its genuinely my passion but I am just wondering how the program works. Also does being in the program mean you can only apply to internal med and primary care residencies?
 
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