2021-2022 Midwestern University (Chicago, Illinois) CCOM

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What is the proper way to withdraw my application from here?
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Can anyone find the match list for CCOM? I can't seem to...
 
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Congrats to everyone on IIs/A's! I'm currently an M1 here so feel free to dm if you have any questions and I will try to answer with what I've learned in my couple months here
 
rosief said:
I feel like I'll be on the same boat. Haven't gotten anything back from the school except for confirmation of my secondary app. When did you submit?
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I was marked complete 7/17. Went to one of their virtual admissions events too. Hopefully you’ll have better luck! ❤️
 
Pre-II rejection today. 513, 3.5 GPA, 3.7 sGPA. Weak clinical experience. I should have applied earlier... Good luck to everyone that got the invite!
 
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fontenotza said:
Labor Day.
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Don't beat yourself up over it. I applied end of June and I still got Pre-II rejected today 🙁 I had similar stats to you (MCAT 51* and cGPA and sGPA 3.8*). It was a bummer for sure but I'm telling myself the best thing to do now is to hold my head high and focus on other schools. Wishing you and everyone the best - it's a long cycle, hang in there 🙂
 
Would anyone who interviewed mind sharing when the day ended? I know it starts at 8am but I am trying to see if I can afford to not take a full day off of work. Thank you!
 
wannabeanMD1999 said:
Does anyone know if they use PBL or case-based learning? TIA
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Current student here.

The only PBL-ish thing we've done so far is that we have a biochem workshop most weeks. We work in groups of 6-7, going through a few cases and answering questions. Usually takes 2hrs. Rest of the curriculum is pretty traditional.

As far as cases go, we have a class called PSP (Patient symptom presentations) that gives you the basics of common presentations/complaints, and runs through the HPI, ROS, Physical exam findings, test/lab results etc. It ties into the overall "symptom of the week" on the schedule. Many lectures include clinical cases sprinkled in for some context as well.
 
I just got ACCEPTED! This was my second time applying here and the first time I didn't even get an interview or anything. It was hard because I thought I'd get in but nothing happened. Since then I did improve my MCAT and today I just got accepted. For anyone that is scared, just keep at it and hope for the best, if it doesn't work out this cycle, do your best to improve and try once more!
 
Can a current CCOM student answer what grading system the college uses (letter grade or pass/fail) and if students are internally or externally ranked? Thanks!
 
student premed said:
Can a current CCOM student answer what grading system the college uses (letter grade or pass/fail) and if students are internally or externally ranked? Thanks!
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We have letter grades with +/-. Minimum passing for pretty much every class is a 70% (C). The class ahead of us petitioned to change to pass/fail last year (and presented plenty of research in support of the practice) and was rejected by admin. Admin's response was that it will help distinguish students now that step 1 is p/f. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

From what I remember hearing, I think we can eventually see our ranks but not until later on. If any other student knows more about that please chime in.
 
Irish_ said:
We have letter grades with +/-. Minimum passing for pretty much every class is a 70% (C). The class ahead of us petitioned to change to pass/fail last year (and presented plenty of research in support of the practice) and was rejected by admin. Admin's response was that it will help distinguish students now that step 1 is p/f. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

From what I remember hearing, I think we can eventually see our ranks but not until later on. If any other student knows more about that please chime in.
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Thank you! I appreciate the response. Can I ask, how are rotations? Are CCOM’s rotations as great as everyone says they are?
 
For anyone that has received a recent interview, what was the last available date to register?
 
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student premed said:
Thank you! I appreciate the response. Can I ask, how are rotations? Are CCOM’s rotations as great as everyone says they are?
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Not to rotations yet, but it was the reason I chose CCOM over the other DO schools I was accepted to. I didn't want the chance of having to leave for rotations like a lot of other DO schools.

The list I've seen includes sites all around Chicagoland with a good mix of big/teaching hospitals (Cook County, Good Sam, Christ, Lutheran, MacNeal, Franciscan, Swedish. From the upperclassmen/graduates I've talked to, you can shape your rotations mostly how you want. So if you want to spend a bunch of time at County in your 3rd year, for example, you can. Or if you want to chill in the suburbs nearby, you can do that too.
 
Irish_ said:
Not to rotations yet, but it was the reason I chose CCOM over the other DO schools I was accepted to. I didn't want the chance of having to leave for rotations like a lot of other DO schools.

The list I've seen includes sites all around Chicagoland with a good mix of big/teaching hospitals (Cook County, Good Sam, Christ, Lutheran, MacNeal, Franciscan, Swedish. From the upperclassmen/graduates I've talked to, you can shape your rotations mostly how you want. So if you want to spend a bunch of time at County in your 3rd year, for example, you can. Or if you want to chill in the suburbs nearby, you can do that too.
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Wonderful! Thanks for the response
 
Hi, Idk if this question has been asked before, but is the matriculation agreement and $200 binding to the school?
 
lord-bhabu said:
Hi, Idk if this question has been asked before, but is the matriculation agreement and $200 binding to the school?
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From what I remember, the $200 is non-refundable, but transferable between CCOM and AZCOM. It goes towards tuition if you end up matriculating there.
 
Irish_ said:
From what I remember, the $200 is non-refundable, but transferable between CCOM and AZCOM. It goes towards tuition if you end up matriculating there.
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You get $100 back if you reject the offer 30 days before classes start.
 
I’m going to recommend people avoid this school for the high tuition costs. They are outrageous and cannot be justified... especially for a DO school? Who does this school think they are to charge these kind of fees? This isn’t not Harvard medical school. They are taking advantage of you and you will struggle your entire life trying to manage these loans. Maybe if you match into orthopedics you will be fine but for those who go into primary care? Goodluck. Enjoy your debt that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Shame on this school for ripping of students that want to be a doctor. I can’t recommend this school at all and am disgusted.
 
med789 said:
I’m going to recommend people avoid this school for the high tuition costs. They are outrageous and cannot be justified... especially for a DO school? Who does this school think they are to charge these kind of fees? This isn’t not Harvard medical school. They are taking advantage of you and you will struggle your entire life trying to manage these loans. Maybe if you match into orthopedics you will be fine but for those who go into primary care? Goodluck. Enjoy your debt that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Shame on this school for ripping of students that want to be a doctor. I can’t recommend this school at all and am disgusted.
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I just wanna point out that even though the price is steep, it’s pretty obvious why the school charges this tuition. Have you ever been to Dothan, AL or Erie, PA? That alone causes many applicants to apply since they wanna be in the 3rd largest metro in America as opposed to the middle of nowhere, which is where most DO schools usually are. On top of that this school sets up 3rd/4th year rotations for you so that you never have to leave the Chicago area and there is far more and easier access to research here. Being a DO still means you’re at a disadvantage to US MDs, but CCOM makes it far more easier for you to beef up your application with research, LOR, and audition rotations so you can be competitive for match without over complicating your life as a med student which is already hard. Plus it helps that it’s the 3rd oldest school and established.
 
orangetoblue said:
I just wanna point out that even though the price is steep, it’s pretty obvious why the school charges this tuition. Have you ever been to Dothan, AL or Erie, PA? That alone causes many applicants to apply since they wanna be in the 3rd largest metro in America as opposed to the middle of nowhere, which is where most DO schools usually are. On top of that this school sets up 3rd/4th year rotations for you so that you never have to leave the Chicago area and there is far more and easier access to research here. Being a DO still means you’re at a disadvantage to US MDs, but CCOM makes it far more easier for you to beef up your application with research, LOR, and audition rotations so you can be competitive for match without over complicating your life as a med student which is already hard. Plus it helps that it’s the 3rd oldest school and established.
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Because the schools sets up the rotations for you they can charge these astronomical prices? What kind of logical thinking is this... it’s the responsibility of the medical school to set up rotations for you. That’s why you pay tuition... why should you be punished with higher tuitions costs just to have the DO letters behind your name? At the end of the day you can say how great this school is and research blah blah blah. You will still be a DO student who pays 115K a year. Anybody with a sound financial mind would not step foot on this campus. Again though, many gullible 21 year olds who are desperate to become a doc will sign up for this school without thinking about the ramifications. Makes me sick to my stomach.
 
med789 said:
Because the schools sets up the rotations for you they can charge these astronomical prices? What kind of logical thinking is this... it’s the responsibility of the medical school to set up rotations for you. That’s why you pay tuition... why should you be punished with higher tuitions costs just to have the DO letters behind your name? At the end of the day you can say how great this school is and research blah blah blah. You will still be a DO student who pays 115K a year. Anybody with a sound financial mind would not step foot on this campus. Again though, many gullible 21 year olds who are desperate to become a doc will sign up for this school without thinking about the ramifications. Makes me sick to my stomach.
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These tuition costs cannot be justified no matter what you say about this school. Absolutely disgusting. @Goro am I wrong??
 
med789 said:
These tuition costs cannot be justified no matter what you say about this school. Absolutely disgusting. @Goro am I wrong??
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You're not wrong. While CCOM is one of the better DO schools, the tuition is not in comparison to that "better".

This is why I always add the caveat of "but watch tuition" when I have CCOM on my school lists.
 
med789 said:
I’m going to recommend people avoid this school for the high tuition costs. They are outrageous and cannot be justified... especially for a DO school? Who does this school think they are to charge these kind of fees? This isn’t not Harvard medical school. They are taking advantage of you and you will struggle your entire life trying to manage these loans. Maybe if you match into orthopedics you will be fine but for those who go into primary care? Goodluck. Enjoy your debt that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Shame on this school for ripping of students that want to be a doctor. I can’t recommend this school at all and am disgusted.
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I agree with some of your points, but my first thought upon reading this was "Somebody got rejected!"
 
Goro said:
I agree with some of your points, but my first thought upon reading this was "Somebody got rejected!"
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Unlike most pre-meds I deeply investigated schools before I had the itch to decide to fork over money to programs (I did not apply to CCOM). Many students don’t do this and rush through the process only to end up in disastrous situations. Bummer!
 
med789 said:
Unlike most pre-meds I deeply investigated schools before I had the itch to decide to fork over money to programs (I did not apply to CCOM). Many students don’t do this and rush through the process only to end up in disastrous situations. Bummer!
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Some are forced to apply broadly to become a doctor. Perspective my dude!
 
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