ATSU-KCOM Discussion Thread 2009-2010

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I'm interviewing next week and was wondering how many people typically interview each day?

Also, I wasn't planning on bringing anyone with me to the interview. Is that fairly normal or does everyone usually bring a guest?
 
I'm interviewing next week and was wondering how many people typically interview each day?

Also, I wasn't planning on bringing anyone with me to the interview. Is that fairly normal or does everyone usually bring a guest?


When I interviewed back in November, including myself, I believe there were ten people in my interview group.

Additionally,I did not bring a guest. However there were several individuals in my interview group that did and some that didn't.

I hope this information helps. KCOM is a great school and the faculty, staff, and student ambassadors are awesome. The whole interview experience is made to be as stress free as possible.

Good luck on your interview!! 😀
 
Cancelled my interview. Spot open on 14 Dec. Good Luck!
 
When I interviewed back in November, including myself, I believe there were ten people in my interview group.

Additionally,I did not bring a guest. However there were several individuals in my interview group that did and some that didn't.

I hope this information helps. KCOM is a great school and the faculty, staff, and student ambassadors are awesome. The whole interview experience is made to be as stress free as possible.

Good luck on your interview!! 😀

definitely helpful! Thanks!
 
I'm interviewing at ATSU-KCOM in January and I was wondering if someone could clarify for me how rotations work? Especially since the link on the website is down.

From what I've been able to gather here, you only spend 2 years at the Kirksville campus, and then you match into a hospital somewhere else for the 2nd to years. Are all of your non-elective rotations at that hospital? And then, in years 3 and 4, is there travel back to the campus, or does the hospital essentially become the home base for the remainder of your education?
 
Complete this week! Hoping for an interview! 🙂
 
I'm interviewing at ATSU-KCOM in January and I was wondering if someone could clarify for me how rotations work? Especially since the link on the website is down.

From what I've been able to gather here, you only spend 2 years at the Kirksville campus, and then you match into a hospital somewhere else for the 2nd to years. Are all of your non-elective rotations at that hospital? And then, in years 3 and 4, is there travel back to the campus, or does the hospital essentially become the home base for the remainder of your education?

Your first two years are in Kirksville, unless you stay in Kirksville for rotations. There are rotation sites in Pennsylvania, NJ, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona (off the top of my head, I may have missed a couple). Your second year the class will have a match for which rotation sites they want (everyone ranking a list of their top 6).

As far as the hospitals/regions, you will be based there. From what I know, there typically isn't too much travel (relatively -- no living out of a suitcase). Some sites (i.e. Utah, Arizona) are preceptor based and you may be scattered around a bit, but other places (St. Louis, Columbus, etc.) you do most all of your rotations at a specific hospital (Des Peres, Doctor's Hospital, etc.) You're not going to have to move again, if that's what you're asking. You will travel back to Kirksville 3rd year for testing.
 
Your first two years are in Kirksville, unless you stay in Kirksville for rotations. There are rotation sites in Pennsylvania, NJ, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona (off the top of my head, I may have missed a couple). Your second year the class will have a match for which rotation sites they want (everyone ranking a list of their top 6).

As far as the hospitals/regions, you will be based there. From what I know, there typically isn't too much travel (relatively -- no living out of a suitcase). Some sites (i.e. Utah, Arizona) are preceptor based and you may be scattered around a bit, but other places (St. Louis, Columbus, etc.) you do most all of your rotations at a specific hospital (Des Peres, Doctor's Hospital, etc.) You're not going to have to move again, if that's what you're asking. You will travel back to Kirksville 3rd year for testing.


Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know.
 
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So I'm a little confused.

You stay at Kirksville for your first two years? And then you are at another hospital for the 3rd and 4th years? When do you travel back to Kville for testing?
 
So I'm a little confused.

You stay at Kirksville for your first two years? And then you are at another hospital for the 3rd and 4th years? When do you travel back to Kville for testing?

Whenever testing requires it, I assume. This is very typical of DO schools. It is not every week, or anything like that.

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Did some searching and could not find a callback schedule.
 
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Your first two years are in Kirksville, unless you stay in Kirksville for rotations. There are rotation sites in Pennsylvania, NJ, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona (off the top of my head, I may have missed a couple). Your second year the class will have a match for which rotation sites they want (everyone ranking a list of their top 6).

As far as the hospitals/regions, you will be based there. From what I know, there typically isn't too much travel (relatively -- no living out of a suitcase). Some sites (i.e. Utah, Arizona) are preceptor based and you may be scattered around a bit, but other places (St. Louis, Columbus, etc.) you do most all of your rotations at a specific hospital (Des Peres, Doctor's Hospital, etc.) You're not going to have to move again, if that's what you're asking. You will travel back to Kirksville 3rd year for testing.

"The Arizona program is a heterogeneous mixture of preceptor-based rotation sites and hospital-based rotation sites.

source: http://www.atsu.edu/kcom/admissions/pdfs/SiteGuide2009.pdf
 
Whenever testing requires it, I assume. This is very typical of DO schools. It is not every week, or anything like that.

*edit*

Did some searching and could not find a callback schedule.

KCOM isn't typical though because they do have their own hospital that can support a certain number of students ... most DO schools do not have this luxury. Also, the relations they have with affiliates is so established that are able to send students all over the nation as they request it. Schools that aren't established or have to send students all over aren't able to do it like KCOM.
 
Also, the relations they have with affiliates is so established that are able to send students all over the nation as they request it. Schools that aren't established or have to send students all over aren't able to do it like KCOM.

Would you mind elaborating on this a little? For example, how would they differ from say DMU or KCUMB, which also send students all over (often to the same sites)?
 
I had my first interview at KCOM and was accepted the following week. I withdrew all my apps except from DMU and attended their interview. I was accepted there a couple of weeks ago and was left with a tough decision.. Both schools were at the top of my list as I sent out applications. After careful consideration, I have finally decided on KCOM!! My deposit has been turned in and I'm very excited to be a part of the class of 2014!!
 
Would you mind elaborating on this a little? For example, how would they differ from say DMU or KCUMB, which also send students all over (often to the same sites)?

Need to state a few disclaimers first ...

1. I am a pre-med and I am a little biased in this situation
2. I did not interview at DMU or KCUMB, but I am aware of how they do their rotations (for the most part).

Here is why I think KCOM is unique in the rotation aspect:

NorthEast Regional Medical Center. I interviewed at schools that had amazing rotations (CCOM), I interviewed at schools that had really, really close affiliates and hospitals where school sponsored residency programs were based (lots actually), but I did not interview at another osteopathic school with a hospital literally connected to the medical school. The day of my interview, I was walking through the school with a representative from the admissions office, down hallways, past students, etc, then we walked through one door and BAM in the middle of a hospital. I even went to undergrad at a huge research university, hospital ranked top of tops, etc, and the hospital was still across the street from the school. It was seriously amazing that not only was the hospital (and huge patient clinic) part of the campus, but this hospital also housed KCOM students and numerous residency programs (derm, gas, facial plastic surgery, etc), and was the only hospital essentially in NorthEastern Missouri. Pretty insane.

Now, the rebuttal here is that the hospital only has rotation spots for a small number of KCOM students. This is true, but I have a theory. People can doubt me here, err whatever, but I personally think this is simply a demand situation (IE it isn't there), and KCOM knows people want to/maybe should get out of Kirksville to do their rotations. As great as some of the pathology may be coming into that hospital, K-Ville is a small town, and I think a big draw of KCOM is getting those first two years at a world renowned university, then going to places like Des Peres or essentially anywhere else in the nation for SOLID rotations. Furthermore, the school recently built a technology center and raised 12 million dollars in donations from alumni alone. The school listens to it students and clearly has support from alumni, staff, the community, students, etc, if the demand was really there and people were dying to stay ... I really think they could do something to get a LOT more people in NE Regional. Personally, I just don't think there really is a need for it, and I think the majority of people want to do their rotations elsewhere in all these awesome regional sites.

Now, how is this different than schools that ship people all over to meet core rotations??? KCOM is essentially giving you the choice of where you want to go and how you want to do it. They are not saying look, we couldn't find you an OB/GYN rotation in the same state as our school, so you have to go half way across the nation to get one ... good luck. They are saying, we have thousands of OB positions in our numerous regional sites ... where do you want to go? Or, do you want to stay in the area OR even try to stay at our home hospital? They have had a LONG time to build up these solid relations with hospitals in different regions, and it shows. Personally, to me, this is a good thing. I'm from the Western part of the US, but have been told by multiple people that KCOM rules. There are also residency programs I am very interested in out here where I'm fromish. So, I am now able (theoretically) to go to KCOM for two years, study my butt off, then, if luck smiles in me in the lottery (something like 90 ++ percent of the students get one of their top 2 choices, then there is a swap period, then you can appeal, it goes on and on ... super student friendly school), boom, I'm out here for my last two, setting up my life, doing audition rotations etc.

This is how I see it as different and unique. KCOM just gives you a super established, professional feel, and it makes one feel confident about their rotations. Clearly I am very pro KCOM, so I hope my response didn't come off as some advertisement. Hopefully this helped, go check it out and see what you think. Good luck.
 
Thanks JP, that was helpful.
 
Appreciate your input, JP. Good points.

So, I realize this is a bit far-fetched, but I figured I'd put the offer out there to see if I can help anyone out. My interview is Jan 22nd, but I have family just outside of St. Louis, and so am flying in probably the 20th (and not leaving again until the 24th, but that's beside the point). I'll be borrowing my dad's car and driving up to Kirkville the afternoon of the 21st, staying with a student, then driving back to the St. Louis the afternoon/evening of the 22nd. Since my car won't be rented (so I don't have to be on a tight timeline) and I'm fairly familiar with the St. Louis area, I wanted to offer a ride up to Kirksville and back for anyone who is also interviewing the 22nd. I can pick up & drop off at the airport, no problem. Can also pick up from hotel/whatever in Kirksville on interview morning.

I'm going through the flight+car rental+hotel circus with other schools, so I know what an expensive hassle it is (but so worth it in the end, right guys?). Since this is sort of "home-turf" for me, I figured I'd see if anyone could use a break. Bonus: the ~3 hour car ride will be more interesting with someone to talk to! PM me if your schedule lines up & you're interested.
 
KCOM isn't typical though because they do have their own hospital that can support a certain number of students ... most DO schools do not have this luxury. Also, the relations they have with affiliates is so established that are able to send students all over the nation as they request it. Schools that aren't established or have to send students all over aren't able to do it like KCOM.

I get what you are saying JP, but that is not quite the question I was answering. I was trying to figure out how often you have to return to Kirksville during your 3rd and 4th years for callback.

I completely agree that KCOM has one of the more extensive lists of clinical sites. However, NERM has not affiliation with KCOM other than the rotations. This was stressed during my interview. The physicians love the students, and you can pretty much shadow whenever you want (as I understand it), and it is great having a hospital so close, but there is no official affiliation.

Don't get me wrong, the large list of rotation sites is one of the major draws for me at KCOM.
 
I get what you are saying JP, but that is not quite the question I was answering. I was trying to figure out how often you have to return to Kirksville during your 3rd and 4th years for callback.

I completely agree that KCOM has one of the more extensive lists of clinical sites. However, NERM has not affiliation with KCOM other than the rotations. This was stressed during my interview. The physicians love the students, and you can pretty much shadow whenever you want (as I understand it), and it is great having a hospital so close, but there is no official affiliation.

Don't get me wrong, the large list of rotation sites is one of the major draws for me at KCOM.

Oh sorry about that, I didn't see what question you were answering. I'm not positive how often you have to come back to KCOM 3/4 years. Also, I really don't see how NERM isn't affiliated with the school?? I never heard that once during my interview and it is literally connected to the school. It's also connected to the clinic, which I believe has a KCOM logo on the front? The hospital also houses all of KCOM's residencies. I mean, maybe KCOM's name isn't on the hospital, but it is the closest connection I've seen and during my whole interview day it was referred to as 'the hospital.' Shrug??
 
Just wanted to add to what Kev said ... technically, I suppose NERM isn't 'KCOM's hospital,' but looking back on my big post, it doesn't change anything that I said. Also, here is what KCOM/NERM had to say about their reciprocity during rotations:

"NRMC shares its campus with the founding osteopathic medical school and offers access to resources for research and the basic sciences."

So yeah, it isn't KCOM's hospital, but like Kev said, definitely very unique, adds to their 3/4 year, and doesn't change my opinion/thoughts about anything.
 
Just wanted to add to what Kev said ... technically, I suppose NERM isn't 'KCOM's hospital,' but looking back on my big post, it doesn't change anything that I said. Also, here is what KCOM/NERM had to say about their reciprocity during rotations:

"NRMC shares its campus with the founding osteopathic medical school and offers access to resources for research and the basic sciences."

So yeah, it isn't KCOM's hospital, but like Kev said, definitely very unique, adds to their 3/4 year, and doesn't change my opinion/thoughts about anything.

Exactly what I was getting at JP: technically not affiliated, but a huge perk and tons of added benefit.
 
You come back once after your third year. You may do testing after your fourth year, but I'm not certain. The hospital is not owned by the school, but the clinic is. The hospital houses all the residencies, plus ~13 students each year. Also, many of the physicians from the hospital are KCOM faculty.
 
Appreciate your input, JP. Good points.

So, I realize this is a bit far-fetched, but I figured I'd put the offer out there to see if I can help anyone out. My interview is Jan 22nd, but I have family just outside of St. Louis, and so am flying in probably the 20th (and not leaving again until the 24th, but that's beside the point). I'll be borrowing my dad's car and driving up to Kirkville the afternoon of the 21st, staying with a student, then driving back to the St. Louis the afternoon/evening of the 22nd. Since my car won't be rented (so I don't have to be on a tight timeline) and I'm fairly familiar with the St. Louis area, I wanted to offer a ride up to Kirksville and back for anyone who is also interviewing the 22nd. I can pick up & drop off at the airport, no problem. Can also pick up from hotel/whatever in Kirksville on interview morning.

I'm going through the flight+car rental+hotel circus with other schools, so I know what an expensive hassle it is (but so worth it in the end, right guys?). Since this is sort of "home-turf" for me, I figured I'd see if anyone could use a break. Bonus: the ~3 hour car ride will be more interesting with someone to talk to! PM me if your schedule lines up & you're interested.

Ahhh Salora! This is such a nice offer! This would've been perfect except I'm flying in on Wed. the 20th for my interview on the 21st. I'll let you know if I can change my date to the 22nd, but assuming otherwise - does anyone want to split the costs of a car rental and do the same thing but just a day before?

I'd like to get to K C O M sometime in the afternoon on the 20th so I/we'd have time to check it out, find the building for the interviews, etc. And I'd like to leave the day after our interview - the 22nd so I/we could get a feel for Kirksville, check out the A.T. Still museum etc. before returning to the airport for a late afternoon/evening flight.

Private Message me if you'd be interested! Very excited to interview here! 🙂
 
Does anyone know if the acceptance rate after interview has been posted on here anywhere? Or if u know do u mind posting it please? Thanks everyone!
 
Ahhh Salora! This is such a nice offer! This would've been perfect except I'm flying in on Wed. the 20th for my interview on the 21st. I'll let you know if I can change my date to the 22nd, but assuming otherwise - does anyone want to split the costs of a car rental and do the same thing but just a day before?

I'd like to get to K C O M sometime in the afternoon on the 20th so I/we'd have time to check it out, find the building for the interviews, etc. And I'd like to leave the day after our interview - the 22nd so I/we could get a feel for Kirksville, check out the A.T. Still museum etc. before returning to the airport for a late afternoon/evening flight.

Private Message me if you'd be interested! Very excited to interview here! 🙂

Thanks BB! It's a bummer that we're a day apart! Do let me know if they will slide your interview... Otherwise I'm still on the lookout for a road-trip-buddy.

All my already-in-med-school friends (as well as the med students here) advise us to "enjoy this time before med school"... and I'm trying to. Really. But effing hell! How are we supposed to relax when *everything* is up in the air?! "So, where are you going to be in 8 months?" "Oh I dunno... any of a DOZEN places spread ALL OVER THE COUNTRY." I have the feeling my window-of-relaxation isn't going to start until I get at least one acceptance...Gah.

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Sorry... guess I have the Thursday morning twitches.
 
Thanks BB! It's a bummer that we're a day apart! Do let me know if they will slide your interview... Otherwise I'm still on the lookout for a road-trip-buddy.

All my already-in-med-school friends (as well as the med students here) advise us to "enjoy this time before med school"... and I'm trying to. Really. But effing hell! How are we supposed to relax when *everything* is up in the air?! "So, where are you going to be in 8 months?" "Oh I dunno... any of a DOZEN places spread ALL OVER THE COUNTRY." I have the feeling my window-of-relaxation isn't going to start until I get at least one acceptance...Gah.

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Sorry... guess I have the Thursday morning twitches.

Know exactly how you feel. It's hard for me to concentrate on work and preparing lesson plans when I have to prepare for interviews, make travel arrangements, etc.

I wish I could road trip w/you, but my interview is 1/14. 🙁
 
Anyone recently complete, hear back from them?

I have been complete for about a week here.
 
I withdrew today, got in at one of my top choices!

Good luck to everyone, I hope you can take my spot! 🙂
 
This is probably a stupid question, but I can't find any specific information on it. Where should I have my letters of recommendation sent? There was no specific address on the secondary application email I received, and I couldn't find one on the website either except for:

Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine
800 W. Jefferson St.
Kirksville, MO 63501

Is this the correct address? Should I include "Office of Admissions" in the address as well?

Thanks in advance!
 
This is probably a stupid question, but I can't find any specific information on it. Where should I have my letters of recommendation sent? There was no specific address on the secondary application email I received, and I couldn't find one on the website either except for:

Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine
800 W. Jefferson St.
Kirksville, MO 63501

Is this the correct address? Should I include "Office of Admissions" in the address as well?

Thanks in advance!

Yeah, that's fine. You can just do something like:

Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine
attn: Office of Admissions
800 W Jefferson St
Kirksville, MO 63501

Shouldn't be a problem. Or you can just call someone in admissions to double check. Probably the nicest admissions people you'll ever encounter!!
 
I have an interview at KCOM on 12/18. Is anyone else interviewing that day? 🙂
 
Awesome! What have you been doing to prepare for the interview? It's my first one and I'm very nervous!


This will be my first one as well....I have been reading SDN, interview feedback, going over my application and reading more about osteopathic medicine. What about you?
 
Awesome! What have you been doing to prepare for the interview? It's my first one and I'm very nervous!


I just interviewed at KCOM last Friday. Everything was very relaxed and I really loved the school.(Now I am Hoping to get in!!) No need to be nervous! Good Luck!
 
Does anyone still read this post?! I have an interview Jan 29th and I'm pretty sure it'll be the first one. I have to schedule another one tomorrow so not sure yet. I'm definitely driving and spending the night in a hotel. I feel like it's just a courtesy interview to be waitlisted bc I would've expected the class to be filled?? Anyone....Bueler.. thanks
 
Okay disregard the "does anyone still read..." I've been looking at this site way too long:laugh:
 
Does anyone still read this post?! I have an interview Jan 29th and I'm pretty sure it'll be the first one. I have to schedule another one tomorrow so not sure yet. I'm definitely driving and spending the night in a hotel. I feel like it's just a courtesy interview to be waitlisted bc I would've expected the class to be filled?? Anyone....Bueler.. thanks

I honestly don't believe the class is full yet or will be full by the time you interview. Their deadline is in March-ish? Therefore they will be interviewing a little past then, so those of us interviewing before then (especially several months before then) should be okay...

Have faith!!!
 
This will be my first one as well....I have been reading SDN, interview feedback, going over my application and reading more about osteopathic medicine. What about you?
I've been preparing the same way, I hope it will be as laid back as everyone says it is! Where will you be staying?
 
I just interviewed at KCOM last Friday. Everything was very relaxed and I really loved the school.(Now I am Hoping to get in!!) No need to be nervous! Good Luck!
Thanks! When do you expect to hear back from them? I read they usually tell you within a week or so...
 
Does anyone know if KCOM has a class of 2014 Facebook page set up yet? I have been trying to fine one. If so, could you post the link?
 
Does anyone know if KCOM has a class of 2014 Facebook page set up yet? I have been trying to fine one. If so, could you post the link?

After you get accepted you will get an invite to the group.
 
Thanks! When do you expect to hear back from them? I read they usually tell you within a week or so...

We were told that decisions would go out in 2-3 weeks but I am hoping that find out sooner!
 
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