Basics 2.0: The Hubris of the Champions - Game Thread

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cubsrule4e said:
Well you could be lying about being the bus driver, but then how what that have happened.

What would happen if both coop and genny are wolves and you switched them? Only 1 is performing the NK action, is genny even 100% cleared through that or am i just starting to way overthink things now?

@genny whats your ability?
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If you really want to get into the weeds, the only way genny is not clear is if the n1, 2, 3 JOAT also decided to bus drive that night and switched genny with someone else who was the real nightkill target.
 
WildZoo said:
Man, remember the days when WW was about lynching wolves? Those were good times.
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PippyPony said:
Maybe you should start the trend again
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WildZoo said:
Again, hilarious. My list is also only two people.

1. Nelly
2. Nav


Apparently nobody listens to me in these games anymore. I'm not a fancy enough player.
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WildZoo said:
I need to remember to make a list of all the ridiculous things people have said I would do as a wolf, just so I can lose some games trying them out
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genny said:
I could see you doing that as a wolf.....
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Can anyone see a downside to having the last two people role reveal? I have a few theories involving roles that I’d like at least 15 minutes to ponder through.
 
I got some info from Nav last night and honestly I'm not really sure what to do with it, because obviously he was village but I also think it's pretty far fetched
 
He told me he was going to seer Cubs last night. There's a scenario where Cubs could actually be a wolf, I'm just not sure I believe it.

I don't know if it was a feint move, or if he was actually thinking Cubs is the wolf
 
  • Night 3 macho affiliation seer - Nav - n3: target unknown
  • Night 1, 4 1x ninja protector - cubs - n1: pippy
  • Night 2, 3 regretful tracker -
  • Night 2 delayed watcher -
  • Night 3 babysitter - miz - n3:
  • Night 2 vigilante - dolphin - n2: cubs
  • Night 2, 3 loyal jailkeeper - pip - n2: cubs, n3:
  • Night 1, 3 1x strongarm roleblocker -
  • Night 2 busdriver - dubz - n2: genny and coop
  • Even Day super saint - zig
  • Night 2,3,4 JOAT (Babysitter, Tracker, Role Blocker) -
  • Night 1,2,3 JOAT (Watcher, Jailkeeper, Bus Driver) -
 
WildZoo said:
I don't know why anyone would be surprised that he told the two of you different things. 4D chess and all that.

Did he say the scenario where cubs could be a wolf @PippyPony?
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Why would he want to seer a 99% cleared villager even if theres a crazy 1% scenario I could be a wolf over pippy or dubz? Makes no sense whatsoever
 
cubsrule4e said:
Why would he want to seer a 99% cleared villager even if theres a crazy 1% scenario I could be a wolf over pippy or dubz? Makes no sense whatsoever
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The scenario actually fits beautifully but you really haven’t been playing like a wolf IMO. Coopah started a stupid lynch against you d1 and you guys bantered back and forth about it for a while. I don’t think that would be smart between the two wolves. You also shifted the vote somewhat away from me yesterday. That’s v vs v, you shouldn’t care about that as a wolf unless you wanted to keep the sketchier person (me) around today in hopes of me getting lynched today.

@PippyPony can you copy/Paste the whole thing? Is that mod allowed? I’d like to see the whole thing.
 
@WildZoo i don’t see you being the wolf. To my knowledge you didn’t know Nav was the seer yesterday and had absolutely no reason to NK one of the sketchiest people on the list who was already offering to off himself anyway. Your bus driver action also makes no sense to me (especially) as a wolf.

Both genny and cubs were cleared unless we get pretty deep into the weeds. Coopah did set cubs up to be the one who was shot, which does make that theory a bit more likely to me.

My current reads are pip>cubs>WZ>genny
 
Will have quotes soon, I'm rereading for coop interactions and any other fun stuff. Also currently looking at reasons why genny may have been the original n2 kill target. May have had to do with PM partners (coop and miz) but she seemed ok with both of them at the time so that's a little weird.
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
@WildZoo i don’t see you being the wolf. To my knowledge you didn’t know Nav was the seer yesterday and had absolutely no reason to NK one of the sketchiest people on the list who was already offering to off himself anyway.
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How did you know he was the seer and/or what dubz knows? There was no communication link between you and Nav.

And can you honestly not think of a reason why someone would kill a seer? Like come on now, you are smarter than that.
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
@WildZoo i don’t see you being the wolf. To my knowledge you didn’t know Nav was the seer yesterday and had absolutely no reason to NK one of the sketchiest people on the list who was already offering to off himself anyway. Your bus driver action also makes no sense to me (especially) as a wolf.

Both genny and cubs were cleared unless we get pretty deep into the weeds. Coopah did set cubs up to be the one who was shot, which does make that theory a bit more likely to me.

My current reads are pip>cubs>WZ>genny
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Pocket attempt noted 😛
 
PippyPony said:
I doubt it would be very specific if so, the rules of this seem to be similar to last game.

Why?
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Because if her shot was blocked then the whole thing falls apart since we don't have watcher or tracker results
It just popped into my head when I was looking over the plan posts again and cross-referencing with which actions could have been used on n2.

Not something I really want to worry about today, just saying things as I think about them
 
I don't know. I feel like it has to be Miz based on process of elimination right now, and Nav was just like weirdly heavily pocketed. If Dubz and Cubs and I are all village, then killing him last night sets up a series of mislynches that would result in the game being over.
 
PippyPony said:
How did you know he was the seer and/or what dubz knows? There was no communication link between you and Nav.

And can you honestly not think of a reason why someone would kill a seer? Like come on now, you are smarter than that.
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I guessed yesterday but wasn’t sure until cubs told us Nav revealed. I’m not sure what WZ knew or not, but I know that he told cubs he was seer. Did he also tell you?

And obviously I can think of reasons why the seer would get killed. This doesn’t have to deal with that. This has to deal with whether or not someone was aware he was the seer. And cubs 100% did know.
 
cubsrule4e said:
Whos after miz and why?
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After that I think I would be looking at you or Dubz :shrug:

Dubz is going to hate this but I do think that bus driver thing could have been done as a bus that she was hoping would carry her through end game. She would have had much more control over that situation because other roles were tied up elsewhere or were not acting (for example, she agreed that it made sense for the blocker not to act...which it did, but it could have also been a good opportunity for a one-shot ability).

I do wish genny would come on to contribute, would be helpful.
 
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