CHOOSE YOUR OWWN III - Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Day 3 Yeet Tally
Wonder (1) - dubz

1/8
yeet close in ~29 hours

 

[WildZoo]

I think it might be easier for you to tell me what from MK concerns you, and I can tell you my interpretation and why I think it’s coming from a village MK mindset. In general her overall tone and way of approaching the game, feels like a more village!MK approach. Idk it’s never been something I’ve been good at putting to words. The content she posts just feels like a genuine game solving effort to me.

It's not so much that I have specific concerns (besides wanting to follow up on shorty and Lawpy's concerns), it's that I just can't get a read on her because she's been here so sporadically. I think the only thing that really concerned me is that when we were arguing about what to do about chaos it felt a couple times like she was arguing against positions I wasn't even taking.

 

[WildZoo]

I mostly agree with this list. Obviously I have MK higher up. I’m curious though, you were ready to yeet genny yesterday but today you have her higher than Mayo who in my mind is pure neutral, since he hasn’t posted almost anything, or certainly not enough to get a good read. So I guess, do you disagree that Mayo is just Neutral and you’re putting him lower, or if he is Neutral, that would make genny a village lean, which feels like a big shift from your feelings about genny yesterday. Can you clarify your thoughts and feelings here?

I mean, I explained it in the post. Her posts here feel different from StardeWW after looking back at that game, and the tone to some of what she said yesterday felt like village frustration. Mayo is truly neutral.

 

[WildZoo]

From a numbers standpoint we've only found 2 scum and I would expect there to be at least 4, if not 5, so players that would otherwise be true neutral are going to be voteable for me today because I at least have some reason to give village points to others.

 

[WildZoo]

But it also spooks me a lot because it could be that remaining scum are just doing a really good job of looking for the other scum and I just have no idea how to distinguish that outside of slight tonal and individual player meta things.

 

[Zenge142]

It's not so much that I have specific concerns (besides wanting to follow up on shorty and Lawpy's concerns), it's that I just can't get a read on her because she's been here so sporadically. I think the only thing that really concerned me is that when we were arguing about what to do about chaos it felt a couple times like she was arguing against positions I wasn't even taking.

She’s usually only here sporadically. Reading her posts in this game I get a sense that she’s thinking things through. Wolf!MK feels more floaty. Like she’s just posting to post. Some of her posts this game like this one

They wouldn’t, unless they’re in a pack, but you seriously can’t tell me Lumi hasn’t been acting scummy? Like you only are pointing out options with lumi being village, and I don’t see why scum would kill lumi regardless of actual affiliation, because they are getting heat and as a bonus, if they are actually scum, then they have the mutual goal of killing villagers every night.
Are you village reading Lumi?

Seem like she’s actually thinking about the game and trying to solve it, and scum hunt. At least that’s how I’m reading it.

I don’t want to defend her too hard here because I honestly don’t know, and with multiball being what it is, maybe she’s good at replicating what I see as village tone because she’s actually working at hunting other scum factions. But in general her posts just read more like what I expect from her village meta.

 

[alleycat03]

I might have missed your answer earlier, but what weee the early pings?

Sorry I got distracted earlier and went garage sale shopping. I pointed out a couple of them on D1 but I will go back and find them now

 

[alleycat03]

I might have missed your answer earlier, but what weee the early pings?

Here are my posts I found with “Z, Zenge, ping” etc

So I’ve seen village PSV defend people who’s affiliation she doesn’t know, to her detriment. But that’s typically people from her noob class.

Defending Dubz feels a little different though. The “are you a night vig” question was concerning too.

Not sure I’m ready to scum read PSV but I wanted to note these.

Starting to get a tiny bit paranoid about Z, which is *checks watch* right on schedule for when I usually get freaked out by him

My response to that post ^

PSV and shorty I'm feeling okay about rn, but I don't remember seeing why PSV is voting for Lawpy

I'm agreeing with a lot of Dubz's posts, but wolf!dubz is very hard to differentiate from village!dubz

Lawpy feels fine too, has some unique insight and contributions

Zenge is lurky with random thoughts, some pingy and some valid points

Alissa's posts have been a bit pingy

Chaos and Lumi are both scummy based on their fake claims

Vis feels fine right now

MKG is a bit scummy, but I know I am **** at reading her, so take that with a grain of salt

True has been kinda pingy, especially early on, so going to keep an eye on him

Nothing game related is coming to mind about WO2, but didn't see anything scummy yet from him

Wonder's alignment is contingent upon the lumi flip, but I am thinking she is pro-village based on her claim of black goo

No posts yet from Stagg

Genny has been entertaining but nothing AI yet


I think that's everyone, I'm sorry if someone wasn't memorable enough in my brain and I forgot them

Other post I had about him pinging me slightly and just general feels from D1

I feel like D1 Zenge can be very triggering for me. However, one thing I can say for sure is that I’m not feeling as bad about him in this game as I did during anniversary. I had decided he was scum for several days before Samac forced him into our bloc. Then he skeletonized me so I ended up being correct. I think the paranoia plus True trying to blame him is definitely coloring my read of him.

 

[alleycat03]

She’s usually only here sporadically. Reading her posts in this game I get a sense that she’s thinking things through. Wolf!MK feels more floaty. Like she’s just posting to post. Some of her posts this game like this one

Seem like she’s actually thinking about the game and trying to solve it, and scum hunt. At least that’s how I’m reading it.

I don’t want to defend her too hard here because I honestly don’t know, and with multiball being what it is, maybe she’s good at replicating what I see as village tone because she’s actually working at hunting other scum factions. But in general her posts just read more like what I expect from her village meta.

This is a good way to describe it. One thing I recall a lot from England wolf!MKG is that she would pop in frequently to tell us what she was doing IRL and how busy she was. Reminds me of what True did in literary WW with giving a lot of real-life updates and giving excuses. Both of them were genuinely busy and were both wolves (and True did something similar during this game), but the way people approach the thread and trying to be here all the time is different as a wolf vs a villager. I haven’t really seen that same “covering for my absences” attitude here from mkg, so maybe she’s just more carefree since she’s villaging and isn’t too worried.

I know it’s been a bit, but didn’t @WildZoo read RvB not that long ago? I remember getting some notifications this spring. Anything you recall about her wolfing there?

I tried to block it out of my mind because of the Samac betrayal, so I am not much help.

 

[WildZoo]

I know it’s been a bit, but didn’t @WildZoo read RvB not that long ago? I remember getting some notifications this spring. Anything you recall about her wolfing there?

I did reread it but I don't remember any helpful meta things anymore

 

[alleycat03]

it felt a couple times like she was arguing against positions I wasn't even taking.

Hmmm, that’s a good point and a solid way to describe that interaction from my outsider viewpoint.

But it also spooks me a lot because it could be that remaining scum are just doing a really good job of looking for the other scum and I just have no idea how to distinguish that outside of slight tonal and individual player meta things.

This is a problem with multiball. I think the main reason I was first suspected in CYO II is because shorty (and pleasy I think?) could tell how weird I was acting. I was genuinely scum hunting, but I wasn’t replicating what they’re familiar with in regards to my typical village meta.

 

[alleycat03]

I did reread it but I don't remember any helpful meta things anymore

This isn’t good because both of us have self-admitted Swiss cheese brains. I re-read England not that long ago (maybe during SPN or literary?) so some of it is still in my head but not a ton of it.

 

[alleycat03]

This is wild to me. shorty, Lawpy, and PSV have been dead since N1 and are 3 of the top 5 posters. No wonder we almost all feel like we need to hear more from Mayo and wonder. They’ve each made 1% or less of the posts on this thread. Not calling them out, just putting into perspective how much they’ve posted compared to Dubz and the rest of the active players.

Spoiler: Post counts

 

[Zenge142]

This is wild to me. shorty, Lawpy, and PSV have been dead since N1 and are 3 of the top 5 posters. No wonder we almost all feel like we need to hear more from Mayo and wonder. They’ve each made 1% or less of the posts on this thread. Not calling them out, just putting into perspective how much they’ve posted compared to Dubz and the rest of the active players.

Spoiler: Post counts

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Sometimes I wish there was a character count. I know it wouldn’t change a lot but I do make posts where I respond to multiple people and multiple things, and by not breaking those up into separate posts I feel like I get short changed a little.

 

[WildZoo]

Sometimes I wish there was a character count. I know it wouldn’t change a lot but I do make posts where I respond to multiple people and multiple things, and by not breaking those up into separate posts I feel like I get short changed a little.

Yeah and my count is definitely padded by the fact that I tend to respond to things individually and make a lot of short posts. And then think of more things to say on the same topic like 5 seconds later

 

[supershorty]

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Imagine if they did it by word count, I'd be UNSTOPPABLE
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[supershorty]

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Imagine if they did it by word count, I'd be UNSTOPPABLE
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Well actually, based on champs, Lumi could give me a real run for my money.
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[mkg323]

At the risk of sounding like an absolute hypocrite,

Yeet mayo

I just really need something, literally anything from them at this point. I keep forgetting that they’re even playing.

 

[Zenge142]

At the risk of sounding like an absolute hypocrite,

🤣

I just really need something, literally anything from them at this point. I keep forgetting that they’re even playing.

No I get it. It’s not the same though. Your posts have been sparse, but they’re usually sparse, and I at least think I can read you.

But with Mayo I have no clue what to think at this point. It’s frustrating. And it’s not like Stagg posted at all to at least get an idea.

Would you say this is a pressure vote? Or are you like “I’m sick of Mayo’s absence, get him out of the game!”?

 

[Zenge142]

Zenge: Pokes Thread
Everyone: What are you expecting to happen?
Zenge:

Spoiler

 

[WildZoo]

Maybe the stumper should have stumped mayo lol

 

[mkg323]

🤣

No I get it. It’s not the same though. Your posts have been sparse, but they’re usually sparse, and I at least think I can read you.

But with Mayo I have no clue what to think at this point. It’s frustrating. And it’s not like Stagg posted at all to at least get an idea.

Would you say this is a pressure vote? Or are you like “I’m sick of Mayo’s absence, get him out of the game!”?

At this moment it’s a pressure vote but it could turn into the latter.

 

[mkg323]

Maybe the stumper should have stumped mayo lol

No more stumps plz I’ll have Nam flashbacks

 

[Zenge142]

No more stumps plz I’ll have Nam flashbacks

MK pls. When have the stumps ever betrayed you?

 

[WildZoo]

No more stumps plz I’ll have Nam flashbacks

Mk pls, we know they're not a separate faction this time

 

[alleycat03]

Sometimes I wish there was a character count. I know it wouldn’t change a lot but I do make posts where I respond to multiple people and multiple things, and by not breaking those up into separate posts I feel like I get short changed a little.

I agree completely. Almost all of my posts before today were responding to multiple posts at once. I usually do my catch-ups by page and respond to all of the posts from the same page in one post

 

[alleycat03]

I was reminded by my burger tonight how gross mayo (the condiment) can be.

Therefore, I think a vote for Mayo (the player) is warranted.


Yeet Mayo

 

[alleycat03]

Im 95% joking, but when he/Stagg are MIA for most of the game, you gotta pressure vote or do SOMETHING to get them to talk

I would also accept pressure applied to wonder as well

 

[alleycat03]

not to criticize our stumper, but I definitely would’ve stumped Mayo before WO2. Might’ve been a tiny bit more helpful. I know from experience how unhelpful commentary on vig shots are after they’ve already happened, but still

 

[mkg323]

MK pls. When have the stumps ever betrayed you?

Just because I died before the stumps took over in the anniversary game doesn’t mean I wasn’t traumatized

 

[Zenge142]

Just because I died before the stumps took over in the anniversary game doesn’t mean I wasn’t traumatized

I tried to get you into Skeleton Grove

 

[WildZoo]

not to criticize our stumper, but I definitely would’ve stumped Mayo before WO2. Might’ve been a tiny bit more helpful. I know from experience how unhelpful commentary on vig shots are after they’ve already happened, but still

I could see not wanting to kill someone overnight who had subbed in and not been around much though. Like basically shooting them with zero chance given to respond to anything, especially since no one was even really talking about him yesterday.

 

[holdthemayo]

At this moment it’s a pressure vote but it could turn into the latter.

Stagg/Mayo would have to read the thread to be pressured.

So sorry for the low posts. If I had known how this week would go, I wouldn't have volunteered to sub

 

[holdthemayo]

Some thoughts since last night:

I found myself nodding along with sporty while she was pushing back to dubz about spilling the beans on her role. I was equally uncomfortable when I came into a game I did not know about and was immediately asked to role reveal. Maybe that's a CYO thing, but usually that is a big scum red flag for me.

 

[holdthemayo]

That said, Alley has seemed strongly village to me and her back and forth with Dubz this morning reads like v/v feeling each other out and maybe starting to form a bit of a bloc. It made me feel better about dubz than I was feeling prior to that.

 

[holdthemayo]

MK's vote on me gives me a little ping on a player I already didn't feel good about. I get voting me, I haven't contributed much so far, MK just really doesn't have the moral high ground to lead that charge. Her vote makes me think she is attempting to deflect attention.

 

[holdthemayo]

I already said that I think Genny is not wolf Genny. Based mostly off of feels and having wolfed with her/woferated/been wolferated by her in the past. 3P genny? That's a different question. I don't think she's in a pack.

Zenge is attempting to game solve and is probably village. I thought he might be a wolf when shorty was killed N1, but if that was True then I feel better about him.

 

[holdthemayo]

Just got paged back to the OR. This is hour 20 that I've been on. I'll try to update more later.

Sorry for those of you who were left out.

 

[Viscernable]

I was equally uncomfortable when I came into a game I did not know about and was immediately asked to role reveal.

Are you talking about a different game?

 

[holdthemayo]

Are you talking about a different game?

Are you implying that I never know about what is happening in the game... because maybe.

That quote was referring to WZ asking me about my role before I had read a single post in this game. Role fishing is sus, so it put me on my heels.

 

[Viscernable]

Uhhh. Stuck. Idk. genny’s response to alley and I felt like genuine frustration she was being misunderstood I think, but idk if that’s necessarily village. I think I feel pretty firmly neutral about genny.

 

[Viscernable]

Are you implying that I never know about what is happening in the game... because maybe.

That quote was referring to WZ asking me about my role before I had read a single post in this game. Role fishing is sus, so it put me on my heels.

I don’t think that happened? I don’t remember it and can’t find it upon looking but I might be looking in the wrong place

 

[holdthemayo]

I could buy genny as a 3p/3p scum. She isn't tracking as part of a pack at this point.

 

[Viscernable]

I could buy genny as a 3p/3p scum. She isn't tracking as part of a pack at this point.

Do you feel like she is non-village or just feel that it’s hard to distinguish village vs 3p genny?

 

[holdthemayo]

I don’t think that happened? I don’t remember it and can’t find it upon looking but I might be looking in the wrong place

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If @holdthemayo comes on today I would love to know what the ranked card used for affiliation is
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There should be two roles that were put together to form your actual role - one for affiliation, and one for ability. We want to know what role was used for your affiliation.

I remember it... like before I knew I was in the game

 

[holdthemayo]

Do you feel like she is non-village or just feel that it’s hard to distinguish village vs 3p genny?

She is not wolf genny. I can't distinguish 3p from village genny, but I'm pretty confident I can recognize wolf genny.

 

[Viscernable]

I remember it... like before I knew I was in the game

The card used for affiliation, not the card used for role. Look at the role PM, and do not claim the card that you got your role from, just the one you got your aff from.

 

[holdthemayo]

The card used for affiliation, not the card used for role. Look at the role PM, and do not claim the card that you got your role from, just the one you got your aff from.

I'm not sure that I understand. I didn't get to pick anything. I was just given my role/affiliation when I subbed in.

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm not sure that I understand. I didn't get to pick anything. I was just given my role/affiliation when I subbed in.

I know that it is CYO, but I didn't get to choose anything.

 

[WildZoo]

I know that it is CYO, but I didn't get to choose anything.

Makes sense if they only added you to the role PM, but could you ask the mods what role cards were used to create your role?