Class of 2021 . . . how ya doin?

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batsenecal said:
1) We were almost on page 2. Unacceptable.

2) I just submitted my 4th year rough draft schedule to ASA!!! I have confirmed externships with 2 zoos and 1 large small animal hospital, and submitted my application for the zoo we partner with. I bribed ASA with doing Small Animal ER over Christmas if they give me the off blocks I requested cause I have 4 weddings to work around. 😆
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I've scheduled two externships and applied two the other two! I'm very excited.
 
The school nightmares have begun.

Last night I had a nightmare that I forgot what a scalpel was called. So I’m standing in junior surgery, ready to take my final exam with the professor standing right in front of me, and I go to ask for the scalpel and I completely blanked.

Failed my final and I failed out of vet school.

it begins
 
cdoconn said:
The school nightmares have begun.

Last night I had a nightmare that I forgot what a scalpel was called. So I’m standing in junior surgery, ready to take my final exam with the professor standing right in front of me, and I go to ask for the scalpel and I completely blanked.

Failed my final and I failed out of vet school.

it begins
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Guess what...they don't really stop when you graduate. I mean, I've had my share of patient-related (and case-related given my specialty now) nightmares since graduation, but my brain loves the old standby of forgetting about a test and stuff. Sometimes it's even for undergrad classes.
 
JaynaAli said:
Guess what...they don't really stop when you graduate. I mean, I've had my share of patient-related (and case-related given my specialty now) nightmares since graduation, but my brain loves the old standby of forgetting about a test and stuff. Sometimes it's even for undergrad classes.
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I didn't start having nightmares about high school until like halfway through undergrad
 
JaynaAli said:
Guess what...they don't really stop when you graduate. I mean, I've had my share of patient-related (and case-related given my specialty now) nightmares since graduation, but my brain loves the old standby of forgetting about a test and stuff. Sometimes it's even for undergrad classes.
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I’ve had vet school ones, but they usually didn’t start until the semester actually began!!!

But yeah, apparently they never really go away
 
cdoconn said:
Does Iowa do it differently?? Are you not in Iowa anymore?? Or did you transfer? I’m confused by this...
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batsenecal said:
UNL/ISU 2+2 program. Been in NE for the first two years of the program.
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Bat has the right of it. Also, holy c*** it is expensive to set up a new home. I didn't have to deal with that at UNL since I was still with the wife and kids. New bed, new dishes, new utility set up and all the other things that go along with it all is crazy.
 
ResoluteMike said:
Bat has the right of it. Also, holy c*** it is expensive to set up a new home. I didn't have to deal with that at UNL since I was still with the wife and kids. New bed, new dishes, new utility set up and all the other things that go along with it all is crazy.
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Does ISU have a vet med for sale Facebook page you can purchase stuff from? I've seen some dirt cheap furniture items and such on ours before.
 
cdoconn said:
The school nightmares have begun.

Last night I had a nightmare that I forgot what a scalpel was called. So I’m standing in junior surgery, ready to take my final exam with the professor standing right in front of me, and I go to ask for the scalpel and I completely blanked.

Failed my final and I failed out of vet school.

it begins
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Girlll. I feel ya. But at least you’ve got all that surgery experience under your belt this summer. My scrubbing in, suturing, and overall surgical skills are nil. I’m terrified.

I know how to wrap a pack and open one for someone else and scrub aseptically but that’s about it. I kind of want to run away from junior surgery and vet school. :ninja:
 
I'm definitely nervous about surgery rotations this year. I lost a lot of supination/pronation ability with my arm surgery and while I'm working on improving it I'm not sure where I'll be at by the time I have my surgical skills lab in week 2 of classes. Little frustrating because I'd like to practice suturing, but that's a little difficult when I can't even really use the instruments in one hand
 
Emily Faith said:
Girlll. I feel ya. But at least you’ve got all that surgery experience under your belt this summer. My scrubbing in, suturing, and overall surgical skills are nil. I’m terrified.

I know how to wrap a pack and open one for someone else and scrub aseptically but that’s about it. I kind of want to run away from junior surgery and vet school. :ninja:
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You'll end up loving it I hope. The shelter team are wonderful people. It is a very nurturing environment, and even though Doc C can seem gruff, she's awesome. Don't let her intimidate you and don't be afraid if one thing isn't working for you, ask for input for a different way or help to understand explained another way. Your classmates are there for you, so hopefully you've got good people with you to keep your head clear and lend a hand when needed but otherwise just offer encouragement. 🙂
 
Looking forward to this year but also nervous. Getting back into school always stresses me out.
 
Lupin21 said:
You'll end up loving it I hope. The shelter team are wonderful people. It is a very nurturing environment, and even though Doc C can seem gruff, she's awesome. Don't let her intimidate you and don't be afraid if one thing isn't working for you, ask for input for a different way or help to understand explained another way. Your classmates are there for you, so hopefully you've got good people with you to keep your head clear and lend a hand when needed but otherwise just offer encouragement. 🙂
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Thanks for this, Lupin!
 
batsenecal said:
Does ISU have a vet med for sale Facebook page you can purchase stuff from? I've seen some dirt cheap furniture items and such on ours before.
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They do, but I inherited most of the furniture I needed. The only thing I bought furniturewise was a queen size mattress and frame. I am tall enough that my feet hang off the end of the twin bed they left behind. There is also no room for my puppies.

On a cool side note, I picked out an anesthetic protocol for a rat and did a laceration repair on his tail last night.
 
Emily Faith said:
Girlll. I feel ya. But at least you’ve got all that surgery experience under your belt this summer. My scrubbing in, suturing, and overall surgical skills are nil. I’m terrified.

I know how to wrap a pack and open one for someone else and scrub aseptically but that’s about it. I kind of want to run away from junior surgery and vet school. :ninja:
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yeah I’m worried as well. Hopefully it’ll go okay. I’m going to approach it with my typical try really hard attitude and hopefully that’ll be enough.

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Lupin21 said:
You'll end up loving it I hope. The shelter team are wonderful people. It is a very nurturing environment, and even though Doc C can seem gruff, she's awesome. Don't let her intimidate you and don't be afraid if one thing isn't working for you, ask for input for a different way or help to understand explained another way. Your classmates are there for you, so hopefully you've got good people with you to keep your head clear and lend a hand when needed but otherwise just offer encouragement. 🙂
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😍 Thank you!

twelvetigers said:
My tip is, if Dr. C is having a gruff day, tell her someone said that she had a crush on a Jeremy Renner and then ask if she’s seen/heard his new music video/song yet. 😉
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This feels like a trap.
 
cdoconn said:
They have no idea what pain is, it’s amazing.
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Our new labmate was saying (on what was literally her third day in the lab) "we're being paid to go to school, isn't that amazing? I mean it's not a lot but it's enough to live on!"

Cue me and my "is it really though?", but I kept that to myself. She'll learn. 😉
 
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PrincessButterCup said:
Our new labmate was saying (on what was literally her third day in the lab) "we're being paid to go to school, isn't that amazing? I mean it's not a lot but it's enough to live on!"

Que me and my "is it really though?", but I kept that to myself. She'll learn. 😉
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It’s enough to live on as long as you don’t have literally any other expense!
 
mmmdreamerz said:
I used to be shiny. Now I’m burnt out and cynical😳 Alas.
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Hanging around first years at orientation though makes me feel a little brighter though. Reminds me how far I've gotten.



... and then I promptly go back to being dull and lifeless.
 
I'm trying to motivate myself to be productive. But the only thing I really wanted to get done is get my car door fixed. Now we have thunderstorms all day and I ain't walking all over town in thunderstorms. So my new, less productive plan is to just lay in bed.

Also, we don't have a schedule yet 🙄
 
Preferences my clinical year electives today, and I found my first externship today!

I’m going to have 6 2-week externships. I want to do 1-2 in DFW, 1-2 at another university, and the rest at locations that sound fun!

So if you currently attend an academic institute, I might be able to meet you some point next year if I end up at your hospital! :laugh:
 
cdoconn said:
Preferences my clinical year electives today, and I found my first externship today!

I’m going to have 6 2-week externships. I want to do 1-2 in DFW, 1-2 at another university, and the rest at locations that sound fun!

So if you currently attend an academic institute, I might be able to meet you some point next year if I end up at your hospital! :laugh:
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Wow you guys get 12 weeks of externships?! Jealous
 
Coopah said:
Wow you guys get 12 weeks of externships?! Jealous
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We have 3 required externships and then we can choose up to 3 additional externships as “electives”.

Because we’re starting up clinical year tracking now, a lot of the traditional hospital elective rotations are now required core rotations, so the number of small animal electives is pretty low!

So I’m getting to double up on SA sx, ICU, internal med, community practice, and then 3 more externships.
 
cdoconn said:
We have 3 required externships and then we can choose up to 3 additional externships as “electives”.

Because we’re starting up clinical year tracking now, a lot of the traditional hospital elective rotations are now required core rotations, so the number of small animal electives is pretty low!

So I’m getting to double up on SA sx, ICU, internal med, community practice, and then 3 more externships.
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We’re now just required to take one food animal rotation and the equine medicine rotation, but nothing beyond that (except for what you see during radiology/ necropsy/ anesthesia/ path/ etc).

Everyone used to have to take equine surgery and it was a big ‘ol mess, or at least, that’s how it was described to me.
 
cdoconn said:
So I’m getting to double up on SA sx, ICU, internal med, community practice, and then 3 more externships.
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Come here!!!! We redid our ER, we're currently adding 2 more surgery suites, and the ICU is next!!
 
cdoconn said:
We’re now just required to take one food animal rotation and the equine medicine rotation, but nothing beyond that (except for what you see during radiology/ necropsy/ anesthesia/ path/ etc).

Everyone used to have to take equine surgery and it was a big ‘ol mess, or at least, that’s how it was described to me.
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Jelly! I didn't enjoy equine surgery very much. Lots of standing around during surgeries trying to look vaguely interested, and then lots and lots of cleaning/scutwork and horse care (like feed, water, meds). Lots of high maintenance horses.

What electives are now part of the rotation? Ophtho, cardio, shelter med? What about dentistry, any more exposure to that besides one day total of CP?
 
twelvetigers said:
Jelly! I didn't enjoy equine surgery very much. Lots of standing around during surgeries trying to look vaguely interested, and then lots and lots of cleaning/scutwork and horse care (like feed, water, meds). Lots of high maintenance horses.

What electives are now part of the rotation? Ophtho, cardio, shelter med? What about dentistry, any more exposure to that besides one day total of CP?
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It might be best if I show you my version!

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Ignore the Roman numerals, because they don’t stand for an actual number. Everyone is required to take the left column. The middle column is what’s required for small animal focused. The right column is the electives for everyone. We’re allowed 7 electives. I highlighted my 7 I want, and the green are the 3 backups.

There’s a dentistry lab in jr sx now, as well as a dentistry elective they just started this year!

I want to take a lot of externships so that way I can leave the hospital. :laugh:
 
cdoconn said:
It might be best if I show you my version!

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Ignore the Roman numerals, because they don’t stand for an actual number. Everyone is required to take the left column. The middle column is what’s required for small animal focused. The right column is the electives for everyone. We’re allowed 7 electives. I highlighted my 7 I want, and the green are the 3 backups.

There’s a dentistry lab in jr sx now, as well as a dentistry elective they just started this year!

I want to take a lot of externships so that way I can leave the hospital. :laugh:
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I might sub in ZEW instead of a second radiology but I haven’t decided yet.
 
cdoconn said:
My therio professor said: "as long as you read the textbook before class, read the lecture before class, come to class, actively participate, ask questions when needed, go back and re-read the book, I see no reason that you won't get an A"


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I want to know why he thinks that's physically possible.
 
batsenecal said:
I want to know why he thinks that's physically possible.
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Right??? Like okay, but... have you considered the fact that I'm also in other classes?

And I have surgery which essentially takes priority over every other class. But hey, my first cadaver spay is in 13 days. And my first lecture exam is on Tuesday, in like.. 6 days.

Third-year is off to a great start!

(But hey, at least it's not first-year!)
 
cdoconn said:
But hey, my first cadaver spay is in 13 days.
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Cat/dog? How do they accumulate so many intact cadavers, that’s so hard to come by in my neck of the woods! Even for first year dissections it’s like the whole class needed to share the few intact cadavers because they were so uncommon.
 
cdoconn said:
My therio professor said: "as long as you read the textbook before class, read the lecture before class, come to class, actively participate, ask questions when needed, go back and re-read the book, I see no reason that you won't get an A"


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Ahaha... therio = memorize charts the night before each exam and purge from memory 1 hr later. Can still get an A that way, and no, I don’t regret not retaining that knowledge. I retain what I need to know for dogs/cats and I put policies in place for my clinic to discourage breeders (backyard and otherwise) from bringing their breeding animals to me either way. Spay and neuter your pets beeshes! If you aren’t serious about all the **** you should do to breed properly, and don’t have $3000-5000 on hand for dystocias you are dead to me, and I will not do c-sections without a spay. If you are a serious breeder, both you and I agree that I am not the ideal vet for you to see. There is a very good reproduction practice nearby that will do planned c-sections and are on call for any repro emergencies, and are fantastic at what they do.
 
Minnerbelle said:
Cat/dog? How do they accumulate so many intact cadavers, that’s so hard to come by in my neck of the woods! Even for first year dissections it’s like the whole class needed to share the few intact cadavers because they were so uncommon.
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Should be dog! I can’t remember what part of the country you’re in, but I’m in Oklahoma, and we have way too many stray dogs/ dogs in shelters that get euthanized due to lack of funds and other resources.

They said that every now and then, we will have a cadaver come already altered, but that doesn’t happen too often.

Even then cadavers we get for wetlabs are all mostly intact- we had a suture wetlab for a club I’m an officer in last year and in my downtime I did 3 neuters and 3/4 of a spay.

Minnerbelle said:
Ahaha... therio = memorize charts the night before each exam and purge from memory 1 hr later. Can still get an A that way, and no, I don’t regret not retaining that knowledge. I retain what I need to know for dogs/cats and I put policies in place for my clinic to discourage breeders (backyard and otherwise) from bringing their breeding animals to me either way. Spay and neuter your pets beeshes! If you aren’t serious about all the **** you should do to breed properly, and don’t have $3000-5000 on hand for dystocias you are dead to me, and I will not do c-sections without a spay. If you are a serious breeder, both you and I agree that I am not the ideal vet for you to see. There is a very good reproduction practice nearby that will do planned c-sections and are on call for any repro emergencies, and are fantastic at what they do.
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Ah! That sounds good, I’m quite familiar with that cram, regurg & purge form of education. Especially when it comes to anything food animal/ equine

That’s great that you have policies in place for that! I can imagine that not having them just lets you get walked on by clients/ cases that you really don’t want to see.

I’m leaning towards SA emergency (or surgery) so I’m thinking the only the only therio things I’m going to deal with is maybe things requiring emergency C sections, dystocias, and big ‘ol pyos. (Not that owners typically have enough money to treat any of those, but that’s another story)
 
cdoconn said:
Should be dog! I can’t remember what part of the country you’re in, but I’m in Oklahoma, and we have way too many stray dogs/ dogs in shelters that get euthanized due to lack of funds and other resources.

They said that every now and then, we will have a cadaver come already altered, but that doesn’t happen too often.

Even then cadavers we get for wetlabs are all mostly intact- we had a suture wetlab for a club I’m an officer in last year and in my downtime I did 3 neuters and 3/4 of a spay.
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Sucks for the animals, but great for training.

cdoconn said:
Ah! That sounds good, I’m quite familiar with that cram, regurg & purge form of education. Especially when it comes to anything food animal/ equine

That’s great that you have policies in place for that! I can imagine that not having them just lets you get walked on by clients/ cases that you really don’t want to see.

I’m leaning towards SA emergency (or surgery) so I’m thinking the only the only therio things I’m going to deal with is maybe things requiring emergency C sections, dystocias, and big ‘ol pyos. (Not that owners typically have enough money to treat any of those, but that’s another story)
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Haha all you gotta do is say no I’m not available after hours, can’t guarantee I’ll have time to cut a dystocia even during day hours, and will not give you my cell number, and every puppy requires their own exam to get any vaccines and no litter exam discounts, and I don’t do ears/tails/dew claws on neonates, I don’t do AI. And then they go elsewhere. And they never like my advice about feeding mom a balanced puppy food with no additives to decrease the chance of eclampsia... I don’t care if they post reviews about that, cause it keeps the rest of them away. Please advertise this info on my behalf to all the backyard breeders out there! The serious ones understand the need for repro services, and will bring me their animals for normal services and also utilize repro services. I like these breeders and they are welcome to keep coming.

I cut a lot of pyos people can’t afford at the EC. I like doing those. It ends the problem and I’m actually helping the animals, not contributing to their misery.
 
twelvetigers said:
My tip is, if Dr. C is having a gruff day, tell her someone said that she had a crush on a Jeremy Renner and then ask if she’s seen/heard his new music video/song yet. 😉
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@twelvetigers

I also am...er...appreciative of Jeremy Renner.

I require additional information.
 
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