Dartmouth vs. UWash

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Osteoblast_0112

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Hi! I'm very fortunate to have to choose between these two schools, but I'm really not quite sure of what to do and am getting a bit worried at this point. I'd be really appreciative of any insight/advice you guys might be able to provide!!

Note: I'm from the East Coast, so I'm considered an Out-of-Region student at UW (but have received an OOR tuition waiver, so I would only pay in-state tuition). Not 100% sure what I want to go into or where I ultimately want to live, but am interested in rural health, although not fully committed to it at this point.

UW:
+ Fantastic ranking/reputation (although I do not want to place too much value in the USNWR rankings)
+ New integrated curriculum
+ Lots of opportunities for rural clerkships (for which housing/travel are paid for by UW)
+ Student body seems supportive, humble, community-oriented and not as stressed as at other schools.
+ I would get a lot of first-hand experience during preceptorships, clerkships, etc. Students have emphasized how they often work directly w/attendings.
+ 6-16K cheaper than Geisel per year (because in addition to the waiver, I have a good chance of obtaining a need-based scholarship at UW)
- Although I'd have a small class size in Years 1-2, the overall class size at UW is pretty large (235, I think). This could maybe become difficult in Years 3-4??
- Might become frustrating to move around WWAMI in 3rd/4th year
- Adjustment to new curriculum could be somewhat rocky at first
- Farther away from family/friends on the East Coast

Geisel/Dartmouth:
+ Hanover is a quaint NE town in a rural location
+ Small class size for all 4 years (89 students)
+ Has a strong reputation in the medical and non-medical communities
+ Could participate in clerkships in CA or AK, but not guaranteed (based on lottery system) and I don't think travel is paid for. 🙁
+ Resources attached to their undergrad campus (interesting guest speakers, etc).
+ Global health opportunities are seemingly stronger than at UW, and they also have rural health opportunities as well, but the rural health opportunities are not as strong as at UW, I believe.
+ Preceptors and professors are said to be very supportive.
+ Lots of diversity w/electives (nutrition, etc)
+ Closer to friends/family on the East Coast (although NH is still pretty far from the mid-Atlantic region, where I'm from)
-6-16K more expensive than UW
-Had very mixed feelings about the student body based on my interview group, but it was just one day. and we were all potential students at that point...the M1s seemed friendly and supportive.
-High cost of living
-Unsure about preceptorship or clerkship experiences - if I'd be working closely w/an attending (like at UW) or mostly with a resident.
-Some changes are being implemented to the curriculum, but it is still pretty traditional. Although I don't mind the traditional curriculum, it seems that more and more schools are transitioning over to new PBL-based curricula.
-Lots of cold weather/snow, but I think I could get used to it.
-Lower residency PD score than UW

Thoughts? Thank you so much for your help/advice!
 
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Thanks, guys! But @Temerit and @ciruji , would you mind explaining your reasons for supporting UW over Dartmouth? Thank you!
 
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Hey @Osteoblast_0112 congrats on your choices. This is an interesting and unusual decision and I thought I'd give it a bump, though I didn't interview at either school.
- From talking to peers/coworkers, seems that UW has less "name recognition" than Dartmouth for laypeople, although this doesn't really matter.
I am guessing you are on the East Coast now? You're right that this doesn't really matter, but I would guess that UW has much stronger name recognition in medicine.
+ Global health opportunities are seemingly stronger than at UW, and they also have rural health opportunities as well, but the rural health opportunities are not as strong as at UW, I believe.
Really? Huh, I wouldn't have guessed, given how prominent UW is in global health generally, with the Gates Foundation right there and all. Google shows they have a whole department of global health, are there student opportunities in it?

Other than that, your pros and cons look pretty good. I don't know that they point in one particular direction, but like the others, I'd lean UW given what you said. It's a powerhouse, you sound like you have positive feelings about the place, and it's a little cheaper.
 
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Thanks, @breakintheroof! I am from the East Coast, and from talking with non-medical friends, it seems that they think it's silly/unwise to turn down an acceptance at an "Ivy" medical school to attend a medical school that isn't an Ivy. But in the medical world, I think UW does have a stronger reputation, and the whole "Ivy" thing doesn't really matter in the medical community, I guess.

From talking with current students, it seems that it can be difficult to become involved in (funded) global health summer opportunities, but maybe I'll try to do more research about it!

I do wonder what if it would be difficult in Years 3-4 to get used to the much larger class size - might not be an issue since we'd all be around WWAMI doing rotations, unless each rotation has a lot of UW students?
 
Thanks, @breakintheroof! I am from the East Coast, and from talking with non-medical friends, it seems that they think it's silly/unwise to turn down an acceptance at an "Ivy" medical school to attend a medical school that isn't an Ivy. But in the medical world, I think UW does have a stronger reputation, and the whole "Ivy" thing doesn't really matter in the medical community, I guess.
Ask your friends if they think you should go to Princeton Med and see if their opinion seems like it should matter.😉
 
I vote UWash. I wish I was from the region so I could have applied. Awesome area of the country, great city, great institution. Sounds like a great option for you!
 
I agree with what everyone has said above: I'd go to UW!!! No question.

Not many student interest groups in the eastern WA campus. Could become harder to network/learn about future specialties??

I would think that the Spokane students have more opportunities to network with faculty during the pre-clinical years because of their smaller class size. No? I feel like this mentorship would be a great asset to your site placement! Just a thought!
 
Go to UW*
*And this has nothing to do with the fact that my friend is on Dartmouth's wait list.

All jokes aside, UW is an amazing school and the PNW is beautiful!!
 
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