Kirby - Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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Did you answer this and I missed it? @WildZoo

Yes

Yes this was a joke lol I would be quite confused under those circumstances, perhaps having an out of body experience

 

[Zenge142]

@Zenge142 you gave a read on PSV already?

Feeling Granny Smith and not Macintosh, was my wording

 

[Zenge142]

Yes

Thank you

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@Zenge142 you gave a read on PSV already?

Why do you ask?

 

[WildZoo]

Feeling Granny Smith and not Macintosh, was my wording

How's your Dubz read shaping up?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge () -
Pippy (3) - Zenge 56, genny 24, Wilgy 21
mayo (1) - samac 36
samac (1) - dubz 42
moth (2) - Pippy 28, PSV 30

7/15
yeet close in ~31 hours

 

[WildZoo]

Why do you ask?

I saw Jay mention it but couldn't remember what exactly Zenge had said. Floated to the surface of my brain since you're here.

 

[Zenge142]

How's your Dubz read shaping up?

Neutral

 

[genny]

Genny.

Dislike.

 

[WildZoo]

Someone (sorry can't remember whomst) pointed out that Pippy tends to get a lot of sus early on in recent time which is true, though it has happened when she's scum too so idk if that's a reason to mistrust the vote. Just makes me a bit uncomfy since she did just return from a lengthy hiatus.


@Zenge142 have you been wrong on Pippy before?

 

[PippyPony]

@Zenge142 have you been wrong on Pippy before?

He has. He has also been a wolf before. 😛

 

[WildZoo]

He has. He has also been a wolf before. 😛

Do you think his push on you today is in bad faith?

 

[Zenge142]

He has. He has also been a wolf before. 😛

I don’t recall having been wrong on you, or pushing you as a wolf…

 

[Zenge142]

Genny.

Only the latter, which is how I am currently interpreting events.

What makes you village read pippy? Any reason you’re wolf reading genny other than the Pippy vote?

Yes

so you’re village reading Samac then?

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm a little surprised by how many people are village reading samac at this point. Why is that?

I recently played with wolf!samac in pawwsta and she just sounds different to me

 

[WildZoo]

so you’re village reading Samac then?

Nah, she's neutral

 

[WildZoo]

He has. He has also been a wolf before. 😛

I don’t recall having been wrong on you, or pushing you as a wolf…

Oho

 

[PippyPony]

Do you think his push on you today is in bad faith?

Not necessarily. When he is proven wrong though, I'll just mock him on social media for begging me to play again but throwing that sweet sweet opportunity in the toilet the first chance he got

 

[Dinashadow]

Someone (sorry can't remember whomst) pointed out that Pippy tends to get a lot of sus early on in recent time which is true, though it has happened when she's scum too so idk if that's a reason to mistrust the vote. Just makes me a bit uncomfy since she did just return from a lengthy hiatus.

It was me, but tbh I don't remember the last time I played with pippy when she was wolfing

 

[Santygrass]

*******

If Zenge has a million fans, then I am one of them.
If Zenge has ten fans, then I am one of them.
If Zenge has only one fan then that is me.
If Zenge has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.
If the world is against Zenge, then I am against the world.


******

 

[PippyPony]

I have some personal reasons why I think Zenge's vote on me is just wrong vs wolfy. On top of that, as I've already stated, I have him at a slight village lean.

 

[PippyPony]

It was me, but tbh I don't remember the last time I played with pippy when she was wolfing

I do remember you becoming my personal champion at some point when YOU were wolfing, fwiw.

 

[mightyrunner7]

I wish the color wheel here gave me more than two very similar shades of green. Green is the most important color in Mafia!

samac
WildZoo
--
genny
Zenge
PSV
--
DrWilgy
moonstermash

If I had to solve the game right now, that'd be my guess. If they're all town, then the rest is a winning POE. I can obviously be wrong about someone(s) here, so by all means yell at me if you think any name is wrong. I will expand in a bit about why I feel this way about these players. I will be out for a while this afternoon, and I should conserve posts anyway.

I don't like this post. I'm pretty against posts that seem villagey but don't actually contribute much to game solving.

At this point in threadstate, there were only 9 players contributing (including JJJ). This post basically says "I'll give everyone a village lean except Pippy and quiet players." However, it's dressed up in a way that seems fancier and more investigative than it truly is.

I find it hard to believe that wolves were all staying silent, and that alone tells me that JJJ's list has at least 1 wolf

 

[moonstermash]

I wouldn’t kill Pippy at this point, and it’s too tempting not to make a tie, so…

Vote motheatenlysis

 

[mightyrunner7]

I wish @NateTheLesser or @holdthemayo would stop by

 

[NateTheLesser]

Based on page one it looks like shorty is on track to postcap.

I'll have you know that I campaigned for a 90 post minimum.

I think my highest-posting day in champs was 99.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Anyway, hi. I'll be in and out, I've got a virtual Seder this evening that I've been getting stuff ready for, but after that I'll be around.

 

[NateTheLesser]

I wish @NateTheLesser or @holdthemayo would stop by

Excellent timing.

 

[samac]

Hi
Post cap so wall post and if I spoiler it ya jerks won’t read it soooo

Was this a joke vote?

If vote close was 5 minutes away and there was a flash wagon how comfortable would you be leading a Samac yeet?

Let’s not flash wagon samac ever. Bad idea.

Also I haven't immediately get wolfy vibes from PP.

Have you played with pip? I forgot when she quit

I think I mostly vibe with JJJ's list of town leans except that I am not comfortable village reading either genny, Dubz, or samac at this time.

Why you no read me? You’re the only person I feel comfortable with reading me D1.

Yes this was a joke lol I would be quite confused under those circumstances, perhaps having an out of body experience

You would never

The vote built with very little substantiation. In my opinion it's highly likely a wolf jumped on the Pippy vote to look like they were doing something.

So I get what you’re getting at here, feels too easy. But ya know what felt too easy last game? Visc.

But it's not really 1 in 3. PSV's reasoning was that the vote built with little substantiation, so I think that excuses the vote starter (Zenge). He wasn't really the cause of the vote building, especially since he hasn't done any pushing beyond the initial vote

@potentialsheltervet, between genny and DrWilgy, who would you view as the more sus? Or was I wrong and you actually would pick Zenge out of the 3?

You feel better than last game.

The cap is 125, but it's fake because it gets removed in the hours prior to closing, when samac is going to spew out 3x that much anyways

Hehehehehehehe you damn right

I'm a little surprised by how many people are village reading samac at this point. Why is that?

Cause I’m the villagiest villager to village.

Samac like, always dies d1 I think? Or was that SAR?

Anyhow, I l might be wolf leaning but I’m not gonna yeet on d1z

Is meeeee. Have we played together?

Your wolf leaning samac?

Oooh yesss

I’m waiting to see what Zenge does d2 to wolf lean either of them. Zenge is a quiet wolf usually.

I’m so confused, the question was about me and then you started talking about Zenges?

samac usually dies N1. However you'd have to be a special kind of dingus to N1 one of the champs reps in the practice game.

PLOT ARMOR

I never said I wasn’t a dingus lol. But yea, not testing Samac or Zenge anytime soon

Do test us. Poke us as you see fit.

But your wording was you're waiting until D2 to wolf lean either of them even though you said previously you were wolf leaning samac.
I am confused.

Yes

She's tricksy that one. Always using those shouty caps to get on people's good side.

How do you feel about her so far?

IS IT WORKING

Completely neutral. She's very hard to catch on tone so the number of people shuttling her into their village reads so early into the game is... surprising, to say the least.

I don’t like this. Did you not read me early last game? Am I crazy?

Am I remembering correctly that you have a decent early read rate on her? I feel like it came up last game but memory issue.

She does

It came up and you pointed out the game we were discussing where I mentioned being pinged also featured me later saying not to yeet her and defending her when she was a wolf so
...not really

You picked it up my first post

I recently played with wolf!samac in pawwsta and she just sounds different to me

…. I almost forgot you played that game. I wasn’t gonna yeet you. Did you ever suspect me that game?

I have some personal reasons why I think Zenge's vote on me is just wrong vs wolfy. On top of that, as I've already stated, I have him at a slight village lean.

Zenges vote is wrong and wolfy
-> village lean

What?

Also happy Easter. I’m an adult and color eggs with my grandmother every year. <3

Spoiler

 

[NateTheLesser]

I wouldn’t kill Pippy at this point, and it’s too tempting not to make a tie, so…

Vote motheatenlysis

Hi friend

 

[Zenge142]

Have you played with pip? I forgot when she quit

They played Literary. That would be the only game.

 

[moonstermash]

I don't like this post. I'm pretty against posts that seem villagey but don't actually contribute much to game solving.

At this point in threadstate, there were only 9 players contributing (including JJJ). This post basically says "I'll give everyone a village lean except Pippy and quiet players." However, it's dressed up in a way that seems fancier and more investigative than it truly is.

I find it hard to believe that wolves were all staying silent, and that alone tells me that JJJ's list has at least 1 wolf

Good post.

To clarify: do you think JJJ is a wolf, or simply generous in his town reads? If a wolf, are you including him when you say the list has at least 1 wolf, or are you counting him separately? (Maybe a confusing question - I guess I’m wondering if you think wolf!JJJ included one or both partners in his town list, and also if all the wolves were contributing, or not.)

 

[moonstermash]

Hi friend

Hello 👋

 

[moonstermash]

Zenges vote is wrong and wolfy
-> village lean

What?

Wrong *vs* wolfy, not and wolfy. Pippy’s saying they don’t suspect Zenge for voting them.

 

[samac]

Wrong *vs* wolfy, not and wolfy. Pippy’s saying they don’t suspect Zenge for voting them.

OOOOOH
thank you for the lesson on reading comprehension.

 

[moonstermash]

I think moonstermash also seems decent early. I acknowledge I have zero background with them.

*She, thanks 🤓

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't like this post. I'm pretty against posts that seem villagey but don't actually contribute much to game solving.

At this point in threadstate, there were only 9 players contributing (including JJJ). This post basically says "I'll give everyone a village lean except Pippy and quiet players." However, it's dressed up in a way that seems fancier and more investigative than it truly is.

I find it hard to believe that wolves were all staying silent, and that alone tells me that JJJ's list has at least 1 wolf

My list may have one wolf. I don’t pretend to be perfect. But if it’s even close to accurate, then it severely restricts the mafia team. That’s the point of a POE-driven solving process, and it absolutely contributes to game solving. Indeed, it is my first proposed SOLVE.

 

[PippyPony]

My list may have one wolf. I don’t pretend to be perfect. But if it’s even close to accurate, then it severely restricts the mafia team. That’s the point of a POE-driven solving process, and it absolutely contributes to game solving. Indeed, it is my first proposed SOLVE.

That's a lot of confidence in a list coming a couple hours after the game thread opened, especially when I know part of your POE is wrong

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That's a lot of confidence in a list coming a couple hours after the game thread opened, especially when I know part of your POE is wrong

My POE has seven people. At least four pf them have to be town. That’s how it works.

I don’t play in the realm of “maybe I’m wrong”. That goes without saying. Any read I make at any time for any reason can be wrong. I understand that. But town’s task is try to find the answer, and that’s all I’m doing.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge () -
Pippy (3) - Zenge 60, genny 25, Wilgy 21
mayo (1) - samac 38
samac (1) - dubz 47
moth (3) - Pippy 33, PSV 30, moon 18

8/15
yeet close in ~28.5 hours

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Of my town reads I would state the most trepidation about genny and moonstermash right now, primarily because I don't know either one of them well enough to be a good judge. genny in particular I could stand to wait on, because a little meta from the others of the SDN crowd would go a long way there.

However, some other reads really connect to each other in a way that I think is important.

genny town reads Zenge.
Zenge town reads PSV.
PSV town reads Zenge.

I have these three reads combined into a sort of sheep chain that is holding my world view together. However, I don't have someone telling me they have a town read on genny, and I am conscious of that. So if I am wrong about someone I probably look at her first.

Otherwise, the Zenge/PSV dynamic is one that means a lot to me. I think they seem to understand each other well, which means I trust their views of one another. Only in a world where both are mafia does this break down, and that is only a remote possibility at this point just by the math.

 

[PippyPony]

My POE has seven people. At least four pf them have to be town. That’s how it works.

I don’t play in the realm of “maybe I’m wrong”. That goes without saying. Any read I make at any time for any reason can be wrong. I understand that. But town’s task is try to find the answer, and that’s all I’m doing.

Ok, so if you're taking the POE route, what do you think of me vs my vote co-leader?

And are you planning on voting for anyone in your POE, or just talking about it?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

DrWilgy is the player I know best in this game. He comes from my homesite (The Syndicate), and he and I have played together many many times. He can be a difficult read just because he loves a little chaos, but I still know him well and will try my best to convey my interpretations of what he does for those that do not. My initial town lean is driven by his entrance (being a goof an auto-voting the biggest wagon) and his early efforts to interpret the game (e.g., his reads on samac and Zenge).

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ok, so if you're taking the POE route, what do you think of me vs my vote co-leader?

And are you planning on voting for anyone in your POE, or just talking about it?

I have no immediate impression of moth. She'd fall in my POE as well.

I will certainly vote for someone in my POE whenever I feel the urge. I cannot guarantee the POE will be exactly as it is right now when that time comes. Everything is ever-developing.

 

[PippyPony]

I will certainly vote for someone in my POE whenever I feel the urge. I cannot guarantee the POE will be exactly as it is right now when that time comes. Everything is ever-developing.

Ok well, I feel the urge to take back my village read on you as everything is currently developing

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ok well, I feel the urge to take back my village read on you as everything is currently developing

1) Why was I a village read in the first place, and 2) what has developed currently to change that perception?

 

[PippyPony]

1) Why was I a village read in the first place, and 2) what has developed currently to change that perception?

I liked that you were encouraging discussion early and you seemed to be asking some thoughtful questions to identify logic gaps.c

The combo of the list-centric bravado while stagnating on the action on this last page or so is making me second guess how much contributing you're actually doing. It's easy to talk a big game.

 

[PippyPony]

General reminder that majority is not in effect, so there really should be no villagey reason at all to withhold a vote at this time

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

General reminder that majority is not in effect, so there really should be no villagey reason at all to withhold a vote at this time

Sometimes I vote often. Sometimes I don't. It really depends upon the situation and how I feel. Generally though, I don't agree with this rationale, and I think there are times when declining to vote is appropriate. I have not had much time to consider either of the two present wagons, and so I do not wish to further motivate either of them. I may end up voting someone else in the near future, but that'll require me to decide on who that should be.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

PSV's exchange with moth on the previous page looks quite town for PSV. I don't know that moth "slipped" per PSV's assessment, but the accusation looks authentic anyway. And perhaps moth was a bit sheepish in replying to it.