Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

[hedgiehog]

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still suspicious of Swings.

Also, I noticed wldlfstdnt, who I have trusted has post way less after night4 than before night 4 when there was a conversion. could be coincidence, or not.

Just saying our mayor may be worth looking into.

She'd be an excellent conversion target based on how well she knows the material and the trust that potentially built for her.

 

[NStarz]

still suspicious of Swings.

Also, I noticed wldlfstdnt, who I have trusted has post way less after night4 than before night 4 when there was a conversion. could be coincidence, or not.

Just saying our mayor may be worth looking into.

Interesting.

There has to be Cora and Regina among the remaining players on SOV's list. Both of them have used disguises in the show (remember when Regina turned into the peasant to trick Snow?), so it is possible that someone cleared is either of them in disguise, but I think we should start with that list.

 

[DVMDream]

On the colors.. if I did it again, perhaps I would probably provide a "key" so you didn't have to guess, but in a complex game, it does help to keep various groups separate.

But I am more inclined to smaller games in the future, so probably wouldn't do that anyway.

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Personally, for me, the colors was ok the first time, frustrating but interesting. I really did just ignore them because I figured we would never REALLY be able to know until end game so why waste time debating it?? 😛

It is just one of those game mechanics where it is fine to run once, but isn't a mechanic I would really want to see carried on much. Just my personal opinion. Even in my complex 40 player game, it didn't make any difference what color people were on the thread, because I had my own spreadsheet that I ran off of that was color coded.
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[wldlfstdnt]

still suspicious of Swings.

Also, I noticed wldlfstdnt, who I have trusted has post way less after night4 than before night 4 when there was a conversion. could be coincidence, or not.

Just saying our mayor may be worth looking into.

I got quiet mostly because of work. Transportation strike turned into wld has to work every day till strike is over (it ended Friday, but magically work is still insanely busy)

Totally a coincidence

 

[556535]

Hey, sorry. Playing catch-up again 🙂

If Regina isn't a wolf as some are suggesting, would that not make her a perfect conversion target too? Either way she'd be a wolf by now, right?

 

[LetItSnow]

On the colors.. if I did it again, perhaps I would probably provide a "key" so you didn't have to guess, but in a complex game, it does help to keep various groups separate.

But I am more inclined to smaller games in the future, so probably wouldn't do that anyway.

I'm not criticizing your modding. For starters, that would be rude because I know exactly how much effort it takes. And I love your games. I just like a bit of variety ... some complex mind-screwing games mixed up with some more straightforward games. Ya know?

 

[hedgiehog]

Still very suspicious of Swings.. But I followed her last night and she did nothing (but it doesn't absolve her).

I am also suspicious of FF.

I had a theory that when Swings accidentally complimented FF on her almost escaping lynch she was confusing 2 of her fellow wolves (FF and Allie). DVMD was also suspicious of these 2.

I know EC isn't a wolf. DVMD believed wld wasn't a wolf.
I trust Jojo for now and Nstarz.

So not counting conversions... nora and regina must be amongst:
3. dyachei
5. Alors
6. Dwin
8. cuit
4. FantasyFlyer
5. Hedgie
6. Tuckervet
7. bbeventer
2. that redhead
5. Minnerbelle
6. The LIS
1. Lupin21
2. Swings
6. Fancy

Fancy was the fairy so not a wolf.
I trust minnerbelle was telling the truth.
And since hedgie was DVMD's contact I trust her.

dyachei, Alors ,Dwin, cuit, FantasyFlyer, Tuckervet, bbeventer, that redhead , The LIS, Lupin21, Swings

So to me there are 2 (probably more) wolves in those 11

Pulling up SOV's list again and adding in some more info

FF and TRH are not original wolves. bbeventer and tuckervet are vouching for each other. Rojo believes alors to be a villager. alors says she knows Dwin's role and believes he's a villager.

 

[hedgiehog]

Hey, sorry. Playing catch-up again 🙂

If Regina isn't a wolf as some are suggesting, would that not make her a perfect conversion target too? Either way she'd be a wolf by now, right?

Nstarz said that Regina is a wolf. If Henry found Emma they could convert Regina to good. That means Regina is evil right now.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I'm not criticizing your modding. For starters, that would be rude because I know exactly how much effort it takes. And I love your games. I just like a bit of variety ... some complex mind-screwing games mixed up with some more straightforward games. Ya know?

I didn't take it as criticism.. no worries.

And i like variety in games I play and design...

I think the colors in this game are pretty straight forward to some extent...

I know who the wolves are, I know who the villagers are, and there a bunch of in-betweeners. I assume neutral, chaos, and tamara/greg (whatever the hell they are). . Easy-peasey!

 

[hedgiehog]

I've already sent in my contigency for tomorrow to be safe but I'm going to be lynching swings. She hasn't provided any real defense.

 

[DVMDream]

and tamara/greg (whatever the hell they are). . Easy-peasey!

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[LetItSnow]

I didn't take it as criticism.. no worries.

And i like variety in games I play and design...

I think the colors in this game are pretty straight forward to some extent...

I know who the wolves are, I know who the villagers are, and there a bunch of in-betweeners. I assume neutral, chaos, and tamara/greg (whatever the hell they are). . Easy-peasey!

I figured; just didn't want it to come off that way.

In regards to the wolves/villagers/neutrals ........... I'm still really not sold on you not having an independent win condition and being 'neutral' like you claim. But I've basically lost that argument in the thread, so I'm resigned to just waiting it out.

 

[bbeventer]

Pulling up SOV's list again and adding in some more info

FF and TRH are not original wolves. bbeventer and tuckervet are vouching for each other. Rojo believes alors to be a villager. alors says she knows Dwin's role and believes he's a villager.

May I add too... that the info I provided helped lynch the first wolf. 🙂

 

[556535]

Nstarz said that Regina is a wolf. If Henry found Emma they could convert Regina to good. That means Regina is evil right now.

Right! And we're thinking that swings is either Regina or Cora?

 

[StartingoverVet]

Re-summarizing the players:

Roles I have been told are good by investigation or a dead villager or by implication:
Rojo (me)
FF (hedgie)
TRH (hedgie)
Nstarz (the mods/devyn resurrected)
SOV (known role.. some of you have your doubts)
EC (SOV)

Roles that I have no info on:
dyachei
cuit
LIS
Swings

The vouching grapevine (pairs, etc).
Hedgie (DVMD)
Alors (Rojo)
Dwin (Alors)
Tuckervet (BBE)
BBE (tuckervet)
wldlf (DVMD)

Announced a role on thread
Minnerbelle Paige/Grace
Fancy Fairy


I don't mean for any of these categories to be definitive, just trying to focus the info we have.
4 players we know nothing.
2 have announced their role but unconfirmed (although FML seems likely). I don't remember anything about Paige/Grace.

Just a reference for me to keep track of people... Wolves can be in any or all of these categories.

 

[hedgiehog]

Paige/Grace is the Mad Hatter's daughter.

 

[hedgiehog]

SOV--nstarz was the one who investigated TRH and someone else investigated FF.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Editing

Roles I have been told are good by investigation or a dead villager or by implication:
Rojo (me)
FF (investigation says hedgie)
TRH (Nstarz)
Nstarz (the mods/devyn resurrected)
SOV (known role.. some of you have your doubts)
EC (SOV)

Roles that I have no info on:
dyachei
cuit
LIS
Swings

The vouching grapevine (pairs, etc).
Hedgie (DVMD)
Alors (Rojo)
Dwin (Alors)
Tuckervet (BBE)
BBE (tuckervet)
wldlf (DVMD)

Announced a role on thread
Minnerbelle Paige/Grace - mad hatters daughter
Fancy Fairy


I don't mean for any of these categories to be definitive, just trying to focus the info we have.
4 players we know nothing.
2 have announced their role but unconfirmed (although FML seems likely).

Mad Hatter's daughter is a pretty minor character. I could believe alias.

Just a reference for me to keep track of people... Wolves can be in any or all of these categories.

 

[that redhead]

SOV, I know you can't edit information in, but Nstarz and wld are both aware of my role through various ways. I maintain that I have not been converted.

 

[DVMDream]

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Guyz.... I am running out of ideas for my WW... 🙁
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[NStarz]

SOV--nstarz was the one who investigated TRH and someone else investigated FF.

Just to clear up...I didn't investigate TRH. TRH was cleared by Emma (not sure how). Emma introduced us to each other and confirmed her identity.

 

[that redhead]

Paige/Grace seems like an extremely minor role. With the mad hatter dead, Minnerbelle doesn't have anyone to vouch for her (and never was vouched for, IIRC). Depending on what defense (if any) swings can provide for herself, I would think Minnerbelle would be someone to check out.

 

[hedgiehog]

Also there's no reason for me to not give my role since I can't do anything anyways...I'm Gepetto.

 

[hedgiehog]

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Guyz.... I am running out of ideas for my WW... 🙁
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Just to clear up...I didn't investigate TRH. TRH was cleared by Emma (not sure how). Emma introduced us to each other and confirmed her identity.

Okay sorry about that. I knew that you were the one that said TRH was investigated early on and figured you had seered her.

 

[NStarz]

Swings is pretty high on my suspicious list, and she is on others' as well. I think she should be our next target unless someone else comes out with more info.

 

[hedgiehog]

Woops I don't know how DVMD's quote got in there.

 

[NStarz]

Okay sorry about that. I knew that you were the one that said TRH was investigated early on and figured you had seered her.

No problem! Just didn't want to get caught in a lie later on.

 

[DVMDream]

Woops I don't know how DVMD's quote got in there.

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Cause I'm special.... 😀

Cue jokes in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
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[thedrjojo]

Editing

Roles I have been told are good by investigation or a dead villager or by implication:
Rojo (me)
FF (investigation says hedgie)
TRH (Nstarz)
Nstarz (the mods/devyn resurrected)
SOV (known role.. some of you have your doubts)
EC (SOV)

Roles that I have no info on:
dyachei
cuit
LIS
Swings

The vouching grapevine (pairs, etc).
Hedgie (DVMD)
Alors (Rojo)
Dwin (Alors)
Tuckervet (BBE)
BBE (tuckervet)
wldlf (DVMD)

Announced a role on thread
Minnerbelle Paige/Grace - mad hatters daughter
Fancy Fairy


I don't mean for any of these categories to be definitive, just trying to focus the info we have.
4 players we know nothing.
2 have announced their role but unconfirmed (although FML seems likely).

Mad Hatter's daughter is a pretty minor character. I could believe alias.

Just a reference for me to keep track of people... Wolves can be in any or all of these categories.

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I'd move Alors into the top group, as a death did confirm my knowledge of them, and I'd put my name next to Dwin, and Cuit role revealed to me, nothing more, but is a major character i'd expect to see in the game and haven't heard otherwise

 

[StartingoverVet]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google).

Emma - SnS
Regina - ?????
Snow - known to me.
Gold - SOV
Charming - known to me.
Belle - Nohika
Ruby - FH
Hook - FS
Sheriff - ?????
August (Pinochhio) - ??????????
Henry - NStarz
Baelfire - ??????
Jiminy Cricket - DVMD
Sleeping Beauty - ?????
Milah - Rumple's wife/ Hook;s lover - ?????
Grumpy - Lissarae
Granny - ??????
Bashful, Doc, Happy, Dopey, Sneezy: Doubt they are all in the game.
Cora - ?????
Dr. Whale - Devyn
Mulan - ????
King George ?????
Gepetto ????
Kathryn Nolan/abigail/charming's wife - ?????
Tamara - FFM
Billy/Gus - a mechanic - ????

The rest of the roles get pretty minor (only 3 or fewer episodes)
Severe nurse, Smee, Anton, Prince Philip,

 

[StartingoverVet]

Editing - Hope that clarifies it.

Roles I have been told are good by investigation or a dead villager or by implication:
Rojo (me)
FF (investigation says hedgie)
TRH (Emma/Nstarz)
Nstarz (the mods/devyn resurrected)
SOV (known role.. some of you have your doubts)
EC (SOV)
Alors (Rojo)

Roles that I have no info on:
dyachei
LIS
Swings

The vouching grapevine (pairs, etc).
Hedgie (DVMD) - Gepetto
Dwin (jojo/Alors)
Tuckervet (BBE)
BBE (tuckervet)
wldlf (DVMD)

Announced a role on thread/or to trusted player
Minnerbelle Paige/Grace - mad hatters daughter
Fancy Fairy
cuit

I don't mean for any of these categories to be definitive, just trying to focus the info we have.
4 players we know nothing.
2 have announced their role but unconfirmed (although FML seems likely).

Mad Hatter's daughter is a pretty minor character. I could believe alias.

Just a reference for me to keep track of people... Wolves can be in any or all of these categories.

 

[556535]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google).

Emma - SnS
Regina - ?????
Snow - known to me.
Gold - SOV
Charming - known to me.
Belle - Nohika
Ruby - FH
Hook - FS
Sheriff - ?????
August (Pinochhio) - ??????????
Henry - NStarz
Baelfire - ??????
Jiminy Cricket - DVMD
Sleeping Beauty - ?????
Milah - Rumple's wife/ Hook;s lover - ?????
Grumpy - Lissarae
Granny - ??????
Bashful, Doc, Happy, Dopey, Sneezy: Doubt they are all in the game.
Cora - ?????
Dr. Whale - Devyn
Mulan - ????
King George ?????
Gepetto ????
Kathryn Nolan/abigail/charming's wife - ?????
Tamara - FFM
Billy/Gus - a mechanic - ????

The rest of the roles get pretty minor (only 3 or fewer episodes)
Severe nurse, Smee, Anton, Prince Philip,

Well we know that WS is/was Prince Philip

 

[Dwindlin]

Paige/Grace seems like an extremely minor role. With the mad hatter dead, Minnerbelle doesn't have anyone to vouch for her (and never was vouched for, IIRC). Depending on what defense (if any) swings can provide for herself, I would think Minnerbelle would be someone to check out.

I thought this too, but for what it's worth Minerbelle is "mourning a loss" that was mod confirmed to be a game kill (as opposed to the nature of the role). That result came after Mad Hatter was killed, so it is possible.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google).

Emma - SnS
Regina - ?????
Snow - known to me.
Gold - SOV
Charming - known to me.
Belle - Nohika
Ruby - FH
Hook - FS
Sheriff - ?????
August (Pinochhio) - ??????????
Henry - NStarz
Baelfire - ??????
Jiminy Cricket - DVMD
Sleeping Beauty - ?????
Milah - Rumple's wife/ Hook;s lover - ?????
Grumpy - Lissarae
Granny - ??????
Bashful, Doc, Happy, Dopey, Sneezy: Doubt they are all in the game.
Cora - ?????
Dr. Whale - Devyn
Mulan - ????
King George ?????
Gepetto Hedgie
Kathryn Nolan/abigail/charming's wife - ?????
Tamara - FFM
Billy/Gus - a mechanic - ????

The rest of the roles get pretty minor (only 3 or fewer episodes)
Prince Philip - WS
Maleficient - allie
Severe nurse, Smee, Anton,etc

 

[bbeventer]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google).

Emma - SnS
Regina - ?????
Snow - known to me.
Gold - SOV
Charming - known to me.
Belle - Nohika
Ruby - FH
Hook - FS
Sheriff - ?????
August (Pinochhio) - ??????????
Henry - NStarz
Baelfire - ??????
Jiminy Cricket - DVMD
Sleeping Beauty - ?????
Milah - Rumple's wife/ Hook;s lover - ?????
Grumpy - Lissarae
Granny - ??????
Bashful, Doc, Happy, Dopey, Sneezy: Doubt they are all in the game.
Cora - ?????
Dr. Whale - Devyn
Mulan - ????
King George ?????
Gepetto ????
Kathryn Nolan/abigail/charming's wife - ?????
Tamara - FFM
Billy/Gus - a mechanic - ????

The rest of the roles get pretty minor (only 3 or fewer episodes)
Severe nurse, Smee, Anton, Prince Philip,

I suspect that not just major roles are being used. Such as Peter Pan, and Minnerbelle being Paige/Grace.

 

[hedgiehog]

I have been told that Anton is in the game and I know who Pinocchio is.

 

[NStarz]

I know who Baelfire is.

 

[bbeventer]

I have been told that Anton is in the game and I know who Pinocchio is.

👍

 

[kaydubs]

Won't be back til Wednesday. I leave you in Escalla's capable hands. Don't be too much insanity for her, okay??

 

[Flim Flam Man]

I know who the wolves are, I know who the villagers are, and there a bunch of in-betweeners. I assume neutral, chaos, and tamara/greg (whatever the hell they are). . Easy-peasey!

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obviously...
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[StartingoverVet]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google). Update #3

Emma - SnS
Regina - ?????
Snow - known to SOV.
Gold - SOV
Charming - known to me.
Belle - Nohika
Ruby - FH
Hook - FS
Sheriff - ?????
August (Pinochhio) - known to hedgie and BBV
Henry - NStarz
Baelfire - known to Nstarz
Jiminy Cricket - DVMD
Sleeping Beauty - ?????
Milah - Rumple's wife/ Hook;s lover - ?????
Grumpy - Lissarae
Granny - ??????
Bashful, Doc, Happy, Dopey, Sneezy: Doubt they are all in the game.
Cora - ?????
Dr. Whale - Devyn
Mulan - ????
King George ?????
Gepetto - Hedgie
Kathryn Nolan/abigail/charming's wife - ?????
Tamara - FFM
Billy/Gus - a mechanic - ????

The rest of the roles get pretty minor (only 3 or fewer episodes)
Prince Philip - WS
Maleficient - allie
Severe nurse, Smee,,etc
Anton - in game but ????

 

[shortnsweet]

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google). Update #3

Emma - SnS

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Awwww...I'm number 1??

😳😳😳

Gosh guys...I feel so special.

Now avenge me!

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[that redhead]

I thought this too, but for what it's worth Minerbelle is "mourning a loss" that was mod confirmed to be a game kill (as opposed to the nature of the role). That result came after Mad Hatter was killed, so it is possible.

Yes, but that was sent in an anonymous message to her (as she said on-thread) and she seemed to not know wtf that was referencing. So I'm not quite sold.

 

[thedrjojo]

Yes, but that was sent in an anonymous message to her (as she said on-thread) and she seemed to not know wtf that was referencing. So I'm not quite sold.

that result was known to several players before that was expressed by minner in the thread...
as of N6 or N7, minner was "mourning a loss" which placed her as Granny (Red was dead), Gold (belle was dead), Paige (Jackson was dead), Milah (hook was dead), Neal/Baelfire (emma was dead), or Nova (grumpy was dead)... Granted, Paige was low on our list of people we thought likely, but

 

[that redhead]

that result was known to several players before that was expressed by minner in the thread...
as of N6 or N7, minner was "mourning a loss" which placed her as Granny (Red was dead), Gold (belle was dead), Paige (Jackson was dead), Milah (hook was dead), Neal/Baelfire (emma was dead), or Nova (grumpy was dead)... Granted, Paige was low on our list of people we thought likely, but

So of the people she could be if "mourning a loss" indicates the death of her pair, none of them are bad (Gold questionable but we know SOV to be Gold). Fair enough.

 

[thedrjojo]

So of the people she could be if "mourning a loss" indicates the death of her pair, none of them are bad (Gold questionable but we know SOV to be Gold). Fair enough.

pretty much...

 

[LetItSnow]

I thought this was really interesting....

Roles I have been told are good by investigation or a dead villager or by implication:
Rojo (me)
EC (SOV)

and

Top roles of the show (in order of listing on google).
Snow - known to me.
Charming - known to me.

Is there some reason you just basically identified Snow and Charming for the wolves? Like, perhaps, you want the wolves to kill them? Because, perhaps, you have an independent win condition and need the wolves to off a few villagers for you as you whittle away at the players?

 

[thedrjojo]

😡

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

I thought this was really interesting....



and



Is there some reason you just basically identified Snow and Charming for the wolves? Like, perhaps, you want the wolves to kill them? Because, perhaps, you have an independent win condition and need the wolves to off a few villagers for you as you whittle away at the players?

This can never be good.

 

[Lupin21]

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This lynch of me makes me a sad little boy. 🙁

You all have no sense of fun.

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