PaWWsta - The Game that WWrites Itself (Game Thread)

[matthirten13]

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I'm at the lab atm irl and still haven't done my re-dive of the posts from yesterday, but I have been somewhat keeping up with the chats of today.

I think still haven't seen you give a great reason for voting me besides ">rand scum" (which I'm not quite sure what that means and I'm assuming it just means likely scum) but the reasoning here feels flawed in the sense that you are referring to my first post ever in a game of this format and using that as evidence of anything. I'd appreciate it if you looked at my later posts in that game and see if you still feel it is much different.

for now
unvote AM, Yeet clem

 

[Animal Midwife]

for now
unvote AM, Yeet clem

Are you wolf reading him now?

 

[matthirten13]

Are you wolf reading him now?

I guess not really that much, I just really hated the logic and I'd rather vote that than you atm

 

[VeggieTrex]

I guess not really that much, I just really hated the logic and I'd rather vote that than you atm

Are you wolf reading anyone?

 

[Viscernable]

Unyeet Viscernable

Yeet Mightyrunner


I liked those last post ngl

It scares me when you flip from voting someone to being comfortable voting with them. Like I find mighty more sus than you so I’m staying here but…

 

[Clem J]

I'm at the lab atm irl and still haven't done my re-dive of the posts from yesterday, but I have been somewhat keeping up with the chats of today.

I think still haven't seen you give a great reason for voting me besides ">rand scum" (which I'm not quite sure what that means and I'm assuming it just means likely scum) but the reasoning here feels flawed in the sense that you are referring to my first post ever in a game of this format and using that as evidence of anything. I'd appreciate it if you looked at my later posts in that game and see if you still feel it is much different.

The only relevant posts are your initial ones, the read is based on it generally being harder for newer players to enter the thread as mafia than as town, and using the noob game as a point of contrast to show you weren't as awkward about it when you were town

 

[matthirten13]

The only relevant posts are your initial ones, the read is based on it generally being harder for newer players to enter the thread as mafia than as town, and using the noob game as a point of contrast to show you weren't as awkward about it when you were town

It is also different I feel to be voting someone as mayor than to be picking players to kill day 1

Are you wolf reading him now?

Are you wolf reading anyone?

I guess not really that much, I just really hated the logic and I'd rather vote that than you atm

I will put down on the record that as now I think clem is more likely to be wolf than AM, which is why the change in vote. But it's partly a placeholder until I re-examine earlier posts which I will do in a bit when back home

 

[WildZoo]

Hmmmm. A deep, philasagnical question that I am not sure I know the answer to. We must test it, for science hmmyes

I'm glad @Viscernable liked my joke at least

 

[Clem J]

It is also different I feel to be voting someone as mayor than to be picking players to kill day 1




I will put down on the record that as now I think clem is more likely to be wolf than AM, which is why the change in vote. But it's partly a placeholder until I re-examine earlier posts which I will do in a bit when back home

Sure. Still not particularly relevant.

 

[supershorty]

No need to be ravilonely when we're all together - Day 1 Tagliatally

chic (1) - genny
AM ()
Veggie (1) - chic
matt (4) - Clem, Veggie, AM, Dina
genny ()
mighty (2) - Vis, Santy
Clem (3) - Dubz, Wondalfy, matt
Dina ()
samac ()
Vis ()
Wondalfy (3) - SAR, miranda, samac
mkg (1) - mighty

@matthirten13, you are in the lead!
15/16 voting
Missing: @mkg323

Vote closes tonight at 12am Mermaid Time/10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm Fantasyland (~4.5 hours).

 

[mkg323]

hola just popping in, ill try and be back for close. leaning towards yeeting clem rn but open to other options, tbd when i can catch up a little more. I have a pharm exam tomorrow morning so sorry mighty but your pressure vote isnt really my priority at the moment

I could still see more there. She mainly said she wanted to hear from Clem, genny, and Santy and that she was village reading matt.

just want to clearify, there is no post by me that said I was village reading matt. I‘m pretty sure my exact words were “I’m not saying he’s village, but I’m willing to shelf it for now”. If he’s done other sketch things today that I havent seen, sure lets yeet him sooner rather than later, but I wasn’t interested on piling on the vote yesterday just because of the clunky noob entrance shenanigans. Like I’ve had poorly recieved D1 posts as village on multiple occasions, I’d be a total hypocrite if I didn’t wait to see if that’s whats happening here.

 

[WildZoo]

hola just popping in, ill try and be back for close. leaning towards yeeting clem rn but open to other options, tbd when i can catch up a little more. I have a pharm exam tomorrow morning so sorry mighty but your pressure vote isnt really my priority at the moment

just want to clearify, there is no post by me that said I was village reading matt. I‘m pretty sure my exact words were “I’m not saying he’s village, but I’m willing to shelf it for now”. If he’s done other sketch things today that I havent seen, sure lets yeet him sooner rather than later, but I wasn’t interested on piling on the vote yesterday just because of the clunky noob entrance shenanigans. Like I’ve had poorly recieved D1 posts as village on multiple occasions, I’d be a total hypocrite if I didn’t wait to see if that’s whats happening here.

Oooo make the tie

 

[WildZoo]

@Clem J any thoughts on anyone else besides matt?

 

[samac]

I feel a little bad piling on Wonda but they are pinging on the sketchy meter. I don't think they're in a pack with Matt rn, but I won't close that door. I do think Wonda is a good player though.

I think Miranda's questioning has been pretty good on them so far. Leaning more village on her rn.

So between Matt and wonda is Matt still sketchier to you? Why?

 

[mightyrunner7]

Sounds like mighty’s looking for places to throw shade that looks like original reasoning, and doesn’t care if the reasoning doesn’t make much sense for wolfhunting (“why would you not vote someone you’re not necessarily wolfreading just because you’re concerned people will think you’re in a pack” [that’s a purely wolf thought process and also makes me wonder if the reason it was what mighty came up with was because he’s in that mindframe], “it’s weird to push someone for unvoting themselves” [when the context is that they were basically told “that’s a wolfy thing to do” and they immediately folded and were like LOOK NO IM BEING VILLAGEY], and “kinda sus to push anyone hard D1”)

Vote mightyrunner

It seems like this accusation against me can be boiled down into a few main points:

1. "Throwing shade that looks like original reasoning"
Response - I don't fully understand this accusation. I try to keep up with thread and offer fresh arguments. I don't think anyone else used the same rationale as me. I fully admit I could be wrong, but I will defend that I was original
2."That rationale is more appropriate for a wolf than a villager"
Response - I frankly don't yet intuitively grasp the mindset differences between a villager and a wolf. I've only played one game of WW, and I've spent half of it as a villager and half as a wolf. This is probably the strongest of your main arguments, and it's hard to refute other than to point out my history, which I think could also explain the behavior
3. "Sus to push someone hard D1"
Response - I admit I may have poorly phased this and triggered some players, since it seems D1 is a hot topic. My main point was it's odd to push someone hard without much evidence. The case that Matt had against AM was pretty weak, as shown by nobody joining the wagon and Matt even abandoning the position

 

[samac]

hola just popping in, ill try and be back for close. leaning towards yeeting clem rn but open to other options, tbd when i can catch up a little more. I have a pharm exam tomorrow morning so sorry mighty but your pressure vote isnt really my priority at the moment

just want to clearify, there is no post by me that said I was village reading matt. I‘m pretty sure my exact words were “I’m not saying he’s village, but I’m willing to shelf it for now”. If he’s done other sketch things today that I havent seen, sure lets yeet him sooner rather than later, but I wasn’t interested on piling on the vote yesterday just because of the clunky noob entrance shenanigans. Like I’ve had poorly recieved D1 posts as village on multiple occasions, I’d be a total hypocrite if I didn’t wait to see if that’s whats happening here.

What made you decide Clem is the sketchiest when you’re behind on thread?

 

[VeggieTrex]

So between Matt and wonda is Matt still sketchier to you? Why?

They're different types of sketchy to me. Matt was more obvious and intriguing, where as Wonda has been a little more forward than in past games. Wonda has also been a little defensive when questioned but that's probably NAI.

 

[mightyrunner7]

Who did you find sus for pushing “too confidently” for the time?

This commentary was in regards to Matt staying on AM

 

[Clem J]

@Clem J any thoughts on anyone else besides matt?

Doubt he's paired with am, so if he flips red am probably town

 

[Animal Midwife]

Doubt he's paired with am, so if he flips red am probably town

That's still exceedingly narrow.

 

[Clem J]

That's still exceedingly narrow.

Call me angel hair cause my view is thin af

 

[mightyrunner7]

Hmmm.... I don't really have any strong reads at the moment, so below are my current thoughts on the three vote leaders, ranked in order from least to most sus:

1. Matt - I find the initial self yeet and the take-back of the self yeet to be pretty understandable as recoilimg from a poorly recieved joke. The most sus thing about them was the odd analysis about the dangers of a Wolfpack with clem, but the eventual vote against Clem has (somewhat) reduced these concerns

2. Clem - pretty much the entire contribution to the game so far is "Matt is sus". I would expect a bit more of a broader contribution from someone who is actually wolfhunting. However, even though you and I read the Matt yeet differently, I will admit it's one of the few pieces of solid evidence to go on. If you feel this passionately, I'll let it slide for now, but will look some more contribution later on

3. Wonda - I really don't like the initial strong defense of Matt, followed by the wishy-washy posts later on. This reads to me like a wolf who was trying to defend a villager for cred, then started backing down on the position when it become obvious it wasn't going well. The logic on the posts appear a bit inconsistent, and the step away feels particularly sus. It's as if you know you were digging a hole and wanted to retreat to preserve yourself, which is pretty anti-wolfhunting behavior.

Since I liked mkg's latest post and no longer need the pressure vote, I will now:

unyeet mkg yeet wonda @supershorty

 

[Clem J]

will look some more contribution later on

Gonna need the James Webb lol

 

[genny]

unyeet chic
yeet wonda

 

[supershorty]

No need to be ravilonely when we're all together - Day 1 Tagliatally

chic ()
AM ()
Veggie (1) - chic
matt (4) - Clem, Veggie, AM, Dina
genny ()
mighty (2) - Vis, Santy
Clem (3) - Dubz, Wondalfy, matt
Dina ()
samac ()
Vis ()
Wondalfy (5) - SAR, miranda, samac, mighty, genny
mkg ()

@Wondalfy, you are in the lead!
15/16 voting
Missing: @mkg323

Vote closes tonight at 12am Mermaid Time/10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm Fantasyland (~2.75 hours).

 

[Wondalfy]

I am back and chilled out a bit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think anyone else has really defended Matt?

My category of least sus is people who either haven't really commented on matt/slightly defended his choices. Again, defending a person's choices is not necessarily saying they are village-y or wolfy. Just that I can see where they were coming from. i.e. these (I apparently forgot genny completely in my earlier post):

so the gist of it is matt joke self voted, it wasnt received well so he unvoted? idk what the big deal is here. also i doubt theres 3p in this game, didnt shorty say its a pretty basic game?

to be fair, its his first game on the site that isnt the noob game. I’d say theres a pretty big difference in playing with other noobs than playing with an assortment of regulars that are all on similar pages about this stuff. I’m not saying he‘s village but like, i’m willing to shelf it for now.

general thoughts -
as for the whole 3p comment from veggie, I at first read it as a wolf that was like, well he’s not in my pack but hes sketch so maybe I can get brownie points as calling him 3p? but it also seems like it could have been just noob stuff as both of their games on the site had 3p in them. tbd willing to let soak

and is it really D1 if I havent brought up genny? I’d like to see more of her and clem. plus santy bc numbers is still fresh in my mind and simply put I am an over salted pasta rn

I have to admit that I'm not feeling the Matt vote. I feel like noob wolf wouldn't self-vote like that (granted, WIFOM) because it's way easier to consult the pack and come up with something more cohesive and less attention grabbing. I also like that he's parked on AM. Not in that I'm sussing AM right now, but in that sitting on your strongest wolf read by yourself when you're leading feels more village to me. Unless he and Clem are exactly howling together, of course

I’d rather he use his vote to wolf hunt, comes across as more villagey to me rather than just trying to self-prez so early. If he really thinks AM is wolfy, vote there.

Also, chic hasn't really commented on matt at all. So that's my category currently. Currently, I think it is less likely for wolves to be in this group than the Matt sus group for the reasons I already mentioned + it's very much against the grain, which I find less likely for a wolf to do.

I think from what I can tell his self-vote was a very poorly received joke, which I agree. It isn't so much that he voted himself, but when pushed got defensive and backtracked.

I would find it strange if anyone truly defended Matt, which it seems like you did at first, because how do we know matt can be trusted? We don't. We haven't flipped anyone, the only noodles that know who each other is is the pack.

I've already explained this many times.

You said that you think people who have defended matt seem less sus to you, but that completely contradicts what you just said!

No. I gave a hypothetical. I don't think it's likely wolves did that. Because it would make themselves obvious. That was the point of proposing the hypothetical.

 

[chicandtoughness]

It's the first day, and we all have no actual evidence to go on. Everyone's confidence on votes should be near-zero, and strongly defending any position at this point seems to me to be a little sus, since the only people who have knowledge are the wolves.

This post doesn't sit well with me for some reason. You're doing the same thing as Veggie is doing - overly explaining why you don't want to take a stance one way or another. Yes, it's the first day, but everyone should be able to defend why they are voting why they are voting, even if that defense is, "idk they don't sound the same as last game" or "I voted to get a response from them" or "I agree with player X and will follow their guidance".

Confidence of accuracy can be low, yes, but everyone should be able to justify to some extend why they are voting why they are voting.

There are plenty of role possibilities that have knowledge besides the wolves. (see: mothy and Kat in the noob game).

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@VeggieTrex I want to know who you're reading wolf right now.

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Here's my read list:

Sus because of content of posts: Veggie (I explained why previously), mightyrunner (see above), matt (ditto what everyone's been saying)

Sus because vibez feel different than previous games: AM, miranda, Wonda (not because of matt defense, I want to point out)

Idk because not enough posts: mkg

Idk because you're hard to read: Dubz, Clem, samac

Village lean: genny, Dina, SAR, Santy, Vis

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I'm also strangely sus of anyone who finds me villagey on D1 lmao.

 

[Dinashadow]

hola just popping in, ill try and be back for close. leaning towards yeeting clem rn but open to other options, tbd when i can catch up a little more. I have a pharm exam tomorrow morning so sorry mighty but your pressure vote isnt really my priority at the moment

why?

 

[Dinashadow]

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Here's my read list:

Sus because of content of posts: Veggie (I explained why previously), mightyrunner (see above), matt (ditto what everyone's been saying)

Sus because vibez feel different than previous games: AM, miranda, Wonda (not because of matt defense, I want to point out)

Idk because not enough posts: mkg

Idk because you're hard to read: Dubz, Clem, samac

Village lean: genny, Dina, SAR, Santy, Vis

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Why do you feel like AM and miranda have different vibes?

Can you explain your village lean on genny?

 

[Animal Midwife]

This post doesn't sit well with me for some reason. You're doing the same thing as Veggie is doing - overly explaining why you don't want to take a stance one way or another. Yes, it's the first day, but everyone should be able to defend why they are voting why they are voting, even if that defense is, "idk they don't sound the same as last game" or "I voted to get a response from them" or "I agree with player X and will follow their guidance".

Confidence of accuracy can be low, yes, but everyone should be able to justify to some extend why they are voting why they are voting.

There are plenty of role possibilities that have knowledge besides the wolves. (see: mothy and Kat in the noob game).

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@VeggieTrex I want to know who you're reading wolf right now.

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Here's my read list:

Sus because of content of posts: Veggie (I explained why previously), mightyrunner (see above), matt (ditto what everyone's been saying)

Sus because vibez feel different than previous games: AM, miranda, Wonda (not because of matt defense, I want to point out)

Idk because not enough posts: mkg

Idk because you're hard to read: Dubz, Clem, samac

Village lean: genny, Dina, SAR, Santy, Vis

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I'm also strangely sus of anyone who finds me villagey on D1 lmao.

Why is samac hard to read?

 

[VeggieTrex]

I'm thinking Wonda is the most wolf. Mighty may also be wolf. I don't think Wonda and Matt are in a pack together, which is why I don't necessarily think Matt is a wolf. I don't want to reboil old water on Matt, but Matt is sus to me as well.

 

[VeggieTrex]

I have some D&D to do now though! 2 players just dropped out so that will be fun to figure out.

 

[Wondalfy]

I am now going to collect most of my posts for everyone to see.

I honestly thought the matt thing was a joke immediately so I have nothing to add there lol

I mean since I sensed it was a joke, I'd probably go after Clem, Santy, or Dina for voting matt quickly. Matt's explanation that he'd vote for me if he didn't vote for himself also makes sense to me since we message a lot on Discord, and I'd know it was a joke.

I also don't really get the tunnel on Matt saying village didn't like it, I think it was just a generalization of the bad reaction from experienced players.

I mean, this is possible. But I also like to call out what I interpret as a potential misyeet & defend them, I was pretty vocal about that with fluff last game.

Matt was implying I am wolfy because I chose to somewhat defend him early, which would make me look good, assuming Matt is village. I'm saying sure, that's possible, but also I just do that in my games when I sense a misyeet

I never said matt was village-y. I've said from the beginning I thought it was a joke, I didn't think the village thing is a slip. I think there is misyeet potential, I sense a misyeet, not that it is a misyeet. I just didn't like the votes.

He hasn't. I don't think he is necessarily village-y. It's more along the lines of I don't like the logic behind others voting him for his self-vote, that's more sus to me than his actual self vote.

Clem and Santy are still at the top of my sus list for voting Matt so quickly for something I don't deem as sus. I also liked the argument made about veggie being sus for the 3P comment. Then probably Vis, samac, dina, yourself for throwing sus about the vote/village comment, which again I didn't find sus. Pretty neutral about mighty and miranda due to joining late. I feel best about SAR, chic, and mkg. Although AM is questioning matt a lot, it feels along the same lines as the last game so I feel decent about them as well.

I've been very consistent in that I thought what Matt said was a joke, not that I think he is village-y. I came in saying I didn't have anything to add because I thought it was a joke, i.e. not indicative of anything. I didn't feel like defending myself, but it was also my first post because frankly I didn't have much to say yet, I typically don't on D1, especially early. I think it was NAI. Maybe less likely for a wolf than village to bring attention to themselves like that but definitely still possible - so NAI. What I do find sus is going after it so hard when I interpreted it as just a fun/joke start to the game. I think perhaps I am using a very loose definition of misyeet, as in, I think people are trying to yeet for something I don't find yeetable, if that makes sense lol

I don't like the vote logic. Some of my statements were generalizations of what people said, but the categories were the same -- voted for matt, threw sus on matt, neutral, didn't throw sus on matt.

I don't really mind it. I'm going off what I have currently which isn't a lot. My sus order can very easily flip if it's found out that several villagers are in the vote Matt pile, then perhaps Matt is a wolf and those trying to divert attention are the other wolves. But then again, even if Matt is a wolf, throwing a little sus at him without voting him would make a wolf look better, hmm... I am leaning towards Clem more than Santy in that I like Santy's read of AM and myself. Although, Santy was a wolf last game which I did expect, so that doesn't mean much

This is where another theory pops up in my head that further supports my feelings about the matt votes and me not liking the vote logic.

I honestly am not sure what to say to this because I feel like my actions are aligning with what I'm saying. I came in at that time because I saw a lot of focus on Matt's self-vote, I thought it was a joke, didn't understand the sus. The sus seemed like good misyeet potential.

Further confirmed misyeet potential logic.

I think I explained it as best I could in my previous post, I can see it going either way. Matt = village -> wolves misyeet. Matt = wolf -> wolves mad that Matt would do that/call him out. I don't see wolves defending Matt if Matt is a wolf (I know I would be included in this category), which is why my less sus category is what it is.

This is a simplified versions of my further voting thoughts. So few people have either not commented on matt/slightly defended matt that I don't think multiple wolves are hiding there. So, those who threw sus on matt are more likely to be wolves.

I have not been wish-washy. I honestly just don't think most people seem to like my train of logic, or think that I'm being hedge-y about matt. which is fine. I am currently neutral about matt, I get that seems hedge-y. I just think both theories are possible right now. but I've literally not been hedge-y about anything else. I very honestly don't see in what universe I would go down this path if I was a wolf.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Why do you feel like AM and miranda have different vibes?

Can you explain your village lean on genny?

AM - it's possibly because I wasn't under her scrutiny, but I don't find her as aggressive as the previous game. That said, I've only played one other game with her so this is probably not good evidence. I find it strange she's not pushing harder.

miranda - Initially stated that "it doesn't seem logical" that matt would self vote immediately. Then spent quite a bit of time compiling quotes to explain why Matt's self-vote was sus (most of it being "I agree with these other people").... and then at last minute backed off and said "but it doesn't make sense". Honestly feels a little inconsistent. I would have expected her to either lean into the matt sus, or to lean into the "it doesn't make sense", but to waffle between the two so strongly feels off.

genny - similar vibes as last game 🙂 Ironically the immediate vote on me makes me feel better about her lol

Why is samac hard to read?

samac posts like I do when I play wolf lmao. "Why are we discussing 3p?" "Wolves have knowledge of who's village." "AM's question felt like it had a purpose." "What has Matt done other than say.." "Do you think Dina and Matt are compatible". Lots of comments about general strategy and tons of questions towards others but very few opinions of their own.

 

[Clem J]

This post doesn't sit well with me for some reason. You're doing the same thing as Veggie is doing - overly explaining why you don't want to take a stance one way or another. Yes, it's the first day, but everyone should be able to defend why they are voting why they are voting, even if that defense is, "idk they don't sound the same as last game" or "I voted to get a response from them" or "I agree with player X and will follow their guidance".

Confidence of accuracy can be low, yes, but everyone should be able to justify to some extend why they are voting why they are voting.

There are plenty of role possibilities that have knowledge besides the wolves. (see: mothy and Kat in the noob game).

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@VeggieTrex I want to know who you're reading wolf right now.

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Here's my read list:

Sus because of content of posts: Veggie (I explained why previously), mightyrunner (see above), matt (ditto what everyone's been saying)

Sus because vibez feel different than previous games: AM, miranda, Wonda (not because of matt defense, I want to point out)

Idk because not enough posts: mkg

Idk because you're hard to read: Dubz, Clem, samac

Village lean: genny, Dina, SAR, Santy, Vis

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I'm also strangely sus of anyone who finds me villagey on D1 lmao.

Is dubz actually hard to read ??

 

[WildZoo]

I'm also strangely sus of anyone who finds me villagey on D1 lmao.

This is the way
Don't worry, you're in my neutrals 😉

 

[WildZoo]

Is dubz actually hard to read ??

 

[Animal Midwife]

genny - similar vibes as last game 🙂 Ironically the immediate vote on me makes me feel better about her lol

Alright. Just keep in mind that genny was deliberately wolf-siding last game.

samac posts like I do when I play wolf lmao. "Why are we discussing 3p?" "Wolves have knowledge of who's village." "AM's question felt like it had a purpose." "What has Matt done other than say.." "Do you think Dina and Matt are compatible". Lots of comments about general strategy and tons of questions towards others but very few opinions of their own.

These are all either direct opinions or opinion gathering. Even if you exclude them though, she's shared her personal stance on quite a few players including voting multiple with serious intent.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Is dubz actually hard to read ??

I haven't played with Dubz much 🙂 They modded my noob game and then were killed early (N2) in the previous. This is only my 3rd SDN game sob.

 

[WildZoo]

samac posts like I do when I play wolf lmao. "Why are we discussing 3p?" "Wolves have knowledge of who's village." "AM's question felt like it had a purpose." "What has Matt done other than say.." "Do you think Dina and Matt are compatible". Lots of comments about general strategy and tons of questions towards others but very few opinions of their own.

Huh. I feel like samac has given many opinions of her own?

 

[chicandtoughness]

Maybe "opinions" isn't the right word. I think I'm looking more for samac to give some reads. I do see some posts pointing out how others are being hedgy or questioning others' voting patterns, but I think having more clear cut reads from samac would help me read them better. (You'll find one of my fave questions is asking people who they're wolf/village reading lol). The tone of the posts did move away from general questions/comments in the last few pages so I will concede this.

I'm also going to be 100% honest I am not fully caught up. I've read everything but haven't had time to mull over my tinfoils lol

 

[chicandtoughness]

btw I am currently trying to decide whether I want to slap my vote onto Matt or Wonda.
I still have high sus on Veggie and if it weren't such a close vote I would keep it there, but I think this might be one of those moments where my vote might actually matter lol

 

[WildZoo]

Maybe "opinions" isn't the right word. I think I'm looking more for samac to give some reads. I do see some posts pointing out how others are being hedgy or questioning others' voting patterns, but I think having more clear cut reads from samac would help me read them better. The tone of the posts did move away from general questions/comments in the last few pages.

I'm also going to be 100% honest I am not fully caught up. I've read everything but haven't had time to mull over my tinfoils lol

I feel like I could make a reads list myself from samac's posts, is my point. She's been pretty clear about who she is suspicious of and who she isn't, you don't necessarily have to have a nice list to know where someone's head is at.

Spoiler

Matt:

Icky

Vis/matt:

I quite frankly don’t like how Visc asked the question of who would you change your joke vote too
That whole interaction felt gross

AM:

You taste like vanilla milk again. I like it b

Veggie:

Oh
That makes me feel worse about your jump to 3P

Matt:

I don’t like that twice now you’ve backed off things so quickly.
Seems like you’re squirming a little bit

Matt:

I didn’t like it from you or Vis. Felt like saying something to make conversation and that adds no real substance.

santy:

I like you right now.
But you scare me.

Matt:

Yep I hate that vote

Dubz:

I can usually get her village vibe pretty early and I don’t know whether it’s dissertation dubz but she hasn’t done anything to strike me in the face as village!dubz yet.

I like it when you question people who village read you early. It gives me warm and fuzzies.

(later gives me a village read. *bonk*

Dina/mighty interaction read:

I feel pretty confident in saying Dina wouldn’t come out and say her noob wolf partner was sketchy that quickly. I don’t think they’re compatible.

Wonda:

You are so dang on hedgey. All the talk about Matt being a misyeet and defending that but then calling him neutral doesn’t make sense.

It just doesn’t make sense to me at all. It feels so defend-y while trying to also convey you’d be okay with him being yeeted.

So I’m gonna see what happens if I do this


Unyeet Clem
Yeet wonda

And also agreed with my focus group of Clem/matt/Wonda/Veggie so I don't really see how you can say she hasn't talked about her reads

 

[Clem J]

I'm 2/2 so far so I have wildly disproportionate confidence you're an easy read

 

[WildZoo]

I'm 2/2 so far so I have wildly disproportionate confidence you're an easy read

You haven't gotten to see me as scum yet

 

[Dinashadow]

AM - it's possibly because I wasn't under her scrutiny, but I don't find her as aggressive as the previous game. That said, I've only played one other game with her so this is probably not good evidence. I find it strange she's not pushing harder.

Pushing who harder? I feel like she was pushing matt quite a bit

 

[Clem J]

You haven't gotten to see me as scum yet

Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my unearned arrogance

 

[chicandtoughness]

Pushing who harder? I feel like she was pushing matt quite a bit

Pushing more people harder. She honed in on matt pretty quickly and hard but I expected her to push others hard too.

 

[WildZoo]

Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my unearned arrogance

So how are you reading me right now?

 

[matthirten13]

I just re-read the whole thread front to back. Going to do some isos in a minute and maybe quote some posts. Initially thoughts after reading thread:

Spoiler: thoughts

Samac is in the village lean for me now

Dina on pure posts is village lean for me but I am becoming increasingly convinced I have been pocketed somehow. This could just be because I don't really trust my own reads though.

Mighty I have some sus of because I'm not sure mighty has really attempted to call out anyone (will do iso in a bit). But besides that, posts seemed logical.

Chic I just don't get the feel is actual wolf hunting

Wonda I don't really know what to make of. Looking back at the posts seemed like Wonda made a reply to my post saying Wonda may be going for village points defending me, and wonda's post was taken as further pro-matt by the chat at the time. I feel like that whole mess has just spiraled without any real conclusion besides Wonda has no opinion on what I am.

Clem I feel has some logic for going at me but would love to see more thoughts elsewhere? Kinda a wash after reading through and need more info

Need to iso miranda as well because I feel miranda hasn't done much to wolf hunt either

Will do a few isos. Leaning miranda or chic atm for vote. But if votes stay similar and I had to pick clem/wonda for self-preservation, I would choose clem over wonda

Edit: Spoiler added for cleaner chat