PaWWsta - The Game that WWrites Itself (Game Thread)

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And that’s a sign that I’m a wolf? I would have bussed Santy from the moment day opened after seeing a blocked kill.
No, I'm not using it as confirmed evidence that you're a wolf. It one of the main receipts of me not simply pushing you for mechanical reasons.

I don't know what you would have done because I've never watched you wolf with Santy before and I deliberately made a weird situation where bussing was almost AI.
 
Depends on how much you want village to suffer for it tbh

For me it would be funnier to get as many as misyeets as possible before the inevitable open wolfing. But I'm admittedly a bit of a sadistic wolf.
You like wolfing tho ya weirdo.
 
Idk how it works in WW but in TOS you don't know when you're protected, so a bodyguard claim is a common role to claim as a wolf & is definitely not a clear
It's more a mod thing than an ability thing. My blocking was loud (even when it failed), so I assume protection would be loud too. If not, the protector is still alive, in a world where they exist and can easily confirm what they've done all game. Again though, I don't expect there to be four PRs (which would be more PRs than wolves existing) in any basics game.

Bodyguard specifically would be an especially bad fakeclaim here because there's nothing stopping me from blocking them if I run out of POE members. So they'd have to continue to keep me alive until they're outted.
 
That would have been so much easier to explain though than this.

Why can’t we just do Vis first?
What would have been easier to explain?

I mean, you're not even voting Vis yourself.

The answer though is that you were blocked. I respect your takes, and am encouraging you to still contribute, but there's little you can do to clear yourself at this point.
 
What would have been easier to explain?

I mean, you're not even voting Vis yourself.

The answer though is that you were blocked. I respect your takes, and am encouraging you to still contribute, but there's little you can do to clear yourself at this point.
And this is why it’s not worth it for me to spend several hours casing vis when you’re not going to change your mind
 
Yeah you saw me steal April's ability in MHA to give me an extra yeet avoidance for no reason :laugh:
That game almost broke me
fox tv GIF by Bob's Burgers
 
well MY tinfoil is that samac is a wolf and playing us all by voting for the two wolves when they were already in the lead

(I know samac doesn't bus etc)
 
And this is why it’s not worth it for me to spend several hours casing vis when you’re not going to change your mind
This seems to undermine the team aspect when I've extended multiple olive branches to still have your opinion on the record in the worst case scenario.
 
yes we do pls
Okay okay

So this is assuming one wolf remaining and that it's not genny.

So they no kill last night, right? For all the reasons I already talked about. genny gets misyeeted, confirming the no kill happened. And then the assumption is that they'll just continue to no kill because that makes the most sense - as samac and AM already stated, they would theoretically be locked into no killing for the rest of the game. BUT THEN. They actually do target AM tonight. And because it's already been established that the best move would be to continue not to kill, even if AM blocks them, everyone will probably just think the wolf decided not to kill, or at least consider that option and be more hesitant to immediately wagon them because of what happened with genny. And if the kill works instead, great, they've gotten rid of AM and just have to deal with the one truly clear person (whoever claims AM's block), and dodge the remaining misyeets. Still an uphill battle but, you know, worth a shot since it's a pretty dark situation anyway. The game was always going to be an uphill battle after Santy went down, but this plan reveals a slim path to victory, and if nothing else, it's wild and memorable.

Think About It GIF by Identity
 
well MY tinfoil is that samac is a wolf and playing us all by voting for the two wolves when they were already in the lead

(I know samac doesn't bus etc)
Yes this is it. Gimmie all the sus.

I do bus if I have a partner who’s mechanically outted, for the record so voting santy wouldn’t be crazy.
But ya know what samac would never do in a million years? Prolong the wolfing experience.
 
Okay okay

So this is assuming one wolf remaining and that it's not genny.

So they no kill last night, right? For all the reasons I already talked about. genny gets misyeeted, confirming the no kill happened. And then the assumption is that they'll just continue to no kill because that makes the most sense - as samac and AM already stated, they would theoretically be locked into no killing for the rest of the game. BUT THEN. They actually do target AM tonight. And because it's already been established that the best move would be to continue not to kill, even if AM blocks them, everyone will probably just think the wolf decided not to kill, or at least consider that option and be more hesitant to immediately wagon them because of what happened with genny. And if the kill works instead, great, they've gotten rid of AM and just have to deal with the one truly clear person (whoever claims AM's block), and dodge the remaining misyeets. Still an uphill battle but, you know, worth a shot since it's a pretty dark situation anyway. The game was always going to be an uphill battle after Santy went down, but this plan reveals a slim path to victory, and if nothing else, it's wild and memorable.

Think About It GIF by Identity
**** like this is why people think I'll literally do anything when I'm wolfing :laugh:
 
Okay okay

So this is assuming one wolf remaining and that it's not genny.

So they no kill last night, right? For all the reasons I already talked about. genny gets misyeeted, confirming the no kill happened. And then the assumption is that they'll just continue to no kill because that makes the most sense - as samac and AM already stated, they would theoretically be locked into no killing for the rest of the game. BUT THEN. They actually do target AM tonight. And because it's already been established that the best move would be to continue not to kill, even if AM blocks them, everyone will probably just think the wolf decided not to kill, or at least consider that option and be more hesitant to immediately wagon them because of what happened with genny. And if the kill works instead, great, they've gotten rid of AM and just have to deal with the one truly clear person (whoever claims AM's block), and dodge the remaining misyeets. Still an uphill battle but, you know, worth a shot since it's a pretty dark situation anyway. The game was always going to be an uphill battle after Santy went down, but this plan reveals a slim path to victory, and if nothing else, it's wild and memorable.

Think About It GIF by Identity
I love it
 
Okay okay

So this is assuming one wolf remaining and that it's not genny.

So they no kill last night, right? For all the reasons I already talked about. genny gets misyeeted, confirming the no kill happened. And then the assumption is that they'll just continue to no kill because that makes the most sense - as samac and AM already stated, they would theoretically be locked into no killing for the rest of the game. BUT THEN. They actually do target AM tonight. And because it's already been established that the best move would be to continue not to kill, even if AM blocks them, everyone will probably just think the wolf decided not to kill, or at least consider that option and be more hesitant to immediately wagon them because of what happened with genny. And if the kill works instead, great, they've gotten rid of AM and just have to deal with the one truly clear person (whoever claims AM's block), and dodge the remaining misyeets. Still an uphill battle but, you know, worth a shot since it's a pretty dark situation anyway. The game was always going to be an uphill battle after Santy went down, but this plan reveals a slim path to victory, and if nothing else, it's wild and memorable.

Think About It GIF by Identity
Jesus Christ
 
Okay okay

So this is assuming one wolf remaining and that it's not genny.

So they no kill last night, right? For all the reasons I already talked about. genny gets misyeeted, confirming the no kill happened. And then the assumption is that they'll just continue to no kill because that makes the most sense - as samac and AM already stated, they would theoretically be locked into no killing for the rest of the game. BUT THEN. They actually do target AM tonight. And because it's already been established that the best move would be to continue not to kill, even if AM blocks them, everyone will probably just think the wolf decided not to kill, or at least consider that option and be more hesitant to immediately wagon them because of what happened with genny. And if the kill works instead, great, they've gotten rid of AM and just have to deal with the one truly clear person (whoever claims AM's block), and dodge the remaining misyeets. Still an uphill battle but, you know, worth a shot since it's a pretty dark situation anyway. The game was always going to be an uphill battle after Santy went down, but this plan reveals a slim path to victory, and if nothing else, it's wild and memorable.

Think About It GIF by Identity
I don't know that this is a tinfoil so much as no longer prioritizing lulz over winning. I should always be killed. That's the best move by far. It's just that doing that tonight is far less potent than last night. The no kill continuing would be the "tinfoil." (Though I'd rather call it a no kill theory than a tinfoil because I feel like tinfoils should actually have significant mechanical evidence before being uttered aloud.)
 
I don't know that this is a tinfoil so much as no longer prioritizing lulz over winning. I should always be killed. That's the best move by far. It's just that doing that tonight is far less potent than last night. The no kill continuing would be the "tinfoil." (Though I'd rather call it a no kill theory than a tinfoil because I feel like tinfoils should actually have significant mechanical evidence before being uttered aloud.)
You asked, man.
 
Before being able to put doubt into the idea that whoever is blocked on a no kill night is automatically the wolf, they would need to establish that the wolf would in fact no kill. Otherwise as soon as they're blocked, they're done. It's akin to establishing that the seer can have false results.

Doesn't matter until we see what happens with genny but, it could work imo.
 
Before being able to put doubt into the idea that whoever is blocked on a no kill night is automatically the wolf, they would need to establish that the wolf would in fact no kill. Otherwise as soon as they're blocked, they're done. It's akin to establishing that the seer can have false results.

Doesn't matter until we see what happens with genny but, it could work imo.
It will have no effect on my opinion of future blockings. I've played too many games at this point to crumple over a well-utilized cycle. As long as I continue to live, every cycle with be handled exactly the same way.
 
Before being able to put doubt into the idea that whoever is blocked on a no kill night is automatically the wolf, they would need to establish that the wolf would in fact no kill. Otherwise as soon as they're blocked, they're done. It's akin to establishing that the seer can have false results.

Doesn't matter until we see what happens with genny but, it could work imo.
Oh I get what you’re saying.
They could have no killed tonight so if they are blocked in the future they can fall on the “it was a no kill again!” Huh. That would be ballsy.
I hope it’s just genny. I like the easy way out.
 
Oh I get what you’re saying.
They could have no killed tonight so if they are blocked in the future they can fall on the “it was a no kill again!” Huh. That would be ballsy.
I hope it’s just genny. I like the easy way out.
Yes exactly
 
It will have no effect on my opinion of future blockings. I've played too many games at this point to crumple over a well-utilized cycle. As long as I continue to live, every cycle with be handled exactly the same way.
Well, fortunately for those of us who enjoy a little bit of wolfing shenanigans, it's rarely about convincing a single specific player to buy the story 😉
 
I want you all to know I don't really seriously believe any of these, I have just been riding in a car for 19 hours between yesterday and today and am going crazy lol
 
It probably is, I just got bored
More I think about it though that still doesn’t make sense to not kill.

AM’s best strategy at this point is to tell us who she’s going to block. She did this already. This way if she dies we know who to clear.
So they would know they’re going to be blocked anyway so is the whole thing just to set up the doubt when it gets to them?
Versus if it’s not genny they could have just gotten AM off the board and not have to play that game.
 
So they would know they’re going to be blocked anyway so is the whole thing just to set up the doubt when it gets to them?
Yes of course

I mean, or it's just genny. But if it's not, how were they supposed to know AM wouldn't change targets? She doesn't have to tell us who she blocked for us to know who it is if she dies at this stage. They can claim, and unless the wolf wants to counterclaim (dumb outside of LyLo), they're clear.
 
Yes of course

I mean, or it's just genny. But if it's not, how were they supposed to know AM wouldn't change targets? She doesn't have to tell us who she blocked for us to know who it is if she dies at this stage. They can claim, and unless the wolf wants to counterclaim (dumb outside of LyLo), they're clear.
I'll admit I'm fully confused by what this is saying. Counterclaim what? And how would you know who exactly I "failed" to block if I didn't say so in advance?
 
I'll admit I'm fully confused by what this is saying. Counterclaim what? And how would you know who exactly I "failed" to block if I didn't say so in advance?
Your action is loud, right? Whoever is blocked can just claim it if you die at this point in the game, you don't have to say it ahead of time. It's not like there would be any doubt about them telling the truth, a wolf wouldn't counterclaim and say they were actually blocked unless it was LyLo.
 
Your action is loud, right? Whoever is blocked can just claim it if you die at this point in the game, you don't have to say it ahead of time.
I don't know if it stay loud if I die. Like how PSV's post restriction suddenly didn't work anymore. I'd rather say so myself to avoid ambiguities.
It's not like there would be any doubt about them telling the truth, a wolf wouldn't counterclaim and say they were actually blocked unless it was LyLo.
That's not something you can counterclaim though, even in yolo. Yesterday was the last cycle that was a viable strategy. Either the wolf has to both counterclaim me and the other villager or the wolf has to both counterclaim both me and the other villager.
 
I don't know if it stay loud if I die. Like how PSV post restriction suddenly didn't work anymore. I'd rather say so myself to avoid ambiguities.
That's not an issue of loudness or not, that's an issue of order of ops.

I'm not saying you can't say who you're blocking, I'm saying a wolf couldn't necessarily bank on you not changing your mind if you re-evaluated. Night is long.

That's not something you can counterclaim though. Yesterday was the last cycle that was a viable strategy. Either the wolf has to both counterclaim me and the other villager or the wolf had to both counterclaim both me and the other villager.
I'm talking about if you're dead. And also I said they wouldn't counterclaim. That was the point, there wouldn't be any ambiguity, whoever you blocked is clear if you die, regardless of you not being there to back up the claim.
 
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