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relates only in name, and that's where the similarities end.

Rotated at both in medical school and I'd agree that in general the residents and clinical training are a lot stronger in MN. That said, the AZ facilities are fantastic, the pathology pretty diverse, and the affiliation with ASU sounds like it could provide a motivated resident with some unique research/enrichment opportunities. I did get the sense that in years past the Mayo-AZ IM program struggled a bit with fellowship placement (I recall hearing several times about an all-star former resident that matched to Stanford or UCLA in nephrology which struck me as odd given that there was minimal mention of GI/Cards/HO matches).

End of the day, a motivated resident could probably do fine at Mayo-AZ as there are plenty of research opportunities and contrary to popular believe there have been some in-house fellowship matches in recent years (Cards for sure, no idea about GI). Probably worth at least a look if you're looking to stay in the valley, but if you're competitive for Mayo-MN/upper tier programs you'll probably be wasting your time/$$$ as things stand now (could change as that practice continues to grow).
 
Any advice on the strenght of UCSD IM program and their fellowship prospects would be appreciated. I have browse through the previous pages and did see the name pop up few times

many thanks.
 
Any advice on the strenght of UCSD IM program and their fellowship prospects would be appreciated. I have browse through the previous pages and did see the name pop up few times

many thanks.

I interviewed there this past season and was quite impressed with them. Residents were very happy, PD seemed very supportive, facilities were great, location obviously can't be beat. There are a lot of unique and innovative research opportunities as well, as UCSD is a top 5 institution for biomedical engineering (if you're into that sort of thing). In terms of fellowship matches, they seemed pretty regional (for cards at least) with a lot of UCSD and scripps. Pulm/CC matches appeared stronger, with a couple UCSF in the past couple years as I recall... can't remember the details or those of the other major fellowships though.
 
When is IM (and everyone else) implementing "milestones"?

If you mean as part of the evaluation system, then some programs (like mine) are already doing that. We get evaluated in rotations based on certain milestones different for each one. It's a better systems than "how much the attending likes you".
 
Any advice on the strenght of UCSD IM program and their fellowship prospects would be appreciated. I have browse through the previous pages and did see the name pop up few times

many thanks.
i agree with GTV. Also, they have a great GI program, especially if you are interested in IBD
 
Hey thanks GTV and Jutrkel!
In terms of doing an away rotation at UCSD or other institutions, do students do SubIs, subspecialty consult services like GI, or ICU rotations.
I keep hearing not to do SubIs at away institutions because it will take roughly 2 weeks to get oriented to the system and the place. What about consult services like GI/Cards/Pulm.

Any input from folks who have done away rotations would be appreciated.
 
Hey thanks GTV and Jutrkel!
In terms of doing an away rotation at UCSD or other institutions, do students do SubIs, subspecialty consult services like GI, or ICU rotations.
I keep hearing not to do SubIs at away institutions because it will take roughly 2 weeks to get oriented to the system and the place. What about consult services like GI/Cards/Pulm.

Any input from folks who have done away rotations would be appreciated.

Do a consult rotation. I did an away subI; you better crush it if you do.

Show up. Act interested. Don't expect anything. And, if you develop good rapport with an attending, then ask them if they will put in a good word for you with the PD and/or have them write a letter of rec.
 
Hey thanks GTV and Jutrkel!
In terms of doing an away rotation at UCSD or other institutions, do students do SubIs, subspecialty consult services like GI, or ICU rotations.
I keep hearing not to do SubIs at away institutions because it will take roughly 2 weeks to get oriented to the system and the place. What about consult services like GI/Cards/Pulm.

Any input from folks who have done away rotations would be appreciated.
Some places won't let rotators do a Sub-I either so that can be a problem.

Definitely do what @disorder suggested above and also try to make an appointment to meet w/ the PD while you're there, regardless of the rotation you wind up doing.
 
Anyone know anything about Mayo Arizona for Internal Medicine? How it relates to the Rochester campus?

I've never been to Rochester, but I interviewed at Scottsdale last year.

It ended up at the bottom of my rank list. Small hospital in ritzy suburbia and the patients weren't very sick; the fact that the residents wear suits during wards was a sign (for me, at least). I interviewed at 11 programs and this seemed both the smallest and most cush of all of them.

The big bonus it seemed to have was the vast amount of research opportunities. I spoke with one of their interns (my interview was in December) and he already had added 3 projects to his CV just since July despite "not being super interested in research" (if you believe him). They basically get an email on an almost weekly basis begging for help with various projects and trials they've got going on; the fact that you don't have to compete with med students, post docs, etc. for those projects makes it much easier to buff up your CV compared to lots of university programs.

But yeah. I highly, highly doubt it even holds a candle to Rochester. Your grandma might think it's prestigious, though, so that's a bonus.
 
Updated thoughts on BU and Tufts? I say "and" and not "vs" because I'm interested in constructive opinions on these residency programs and not vicious comparison.
 
This is probably a stupid question, and someone might be able to direct me to a previous thread about it, but can anyone tell me the difference between the two Case Western programs that you can apply to? I tried googling it, but I can't tell a difference. FREIDA says that both are university-based so I'm not sure which one I want to be applying to. Thanks!
 
This is an enormous pet peeve about ERAS. One thing I've noticed: sometimes you can tell which is the 'real' program by clicking on the program in ERAS and then seeing what website is associated with it. For instance: Einstein Moses and Weiler Campuses has an 'www.einstein.yu.edu' webpage whereas Eistein Jacobi has a 'www.jacobimed.org' webpage. One is clearly more affiliated than the other.
 
University Hospitals is the main program, and MetroHealth is the "other" program.
 
Was wondering anyone's thoughts on some of the midwest programs such as Indiana, Cincinnati, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Ohio State. Thanks!
 
UNSOM Las Vegas UMC

see on the 2014 match list that there is only 1 DO student that matched for 34 positions at UNSOM's UMC hospital for internal medicine. Does anyone have experience with this program and know whether they have bias against DOs? Or does no one want to do their residency in Las Vegas? Btw, 6-7 US grads at that school.
 
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Was wondering anyone's thoughts on some of the midwest programs such as Indiana, Cincinnati, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Ohio State. Thanks!

All are solid middle to upper-middle tier programs. Of those Wisconsin is a real gem. Great city, nice hospital (if you can get past the absolutely bizarre floor/tower labeling) with top-notch research facilities, and one of the longest running/most progressive program directors out there. Iowa is also a strong program, although parts of the hospital are in rough shape and there seems to be a larger number of FMGs in comparison to similar public university programs (not that the latter is a bad thing). I can't directly comment on the other 3 as I didn't interview at those institutions.
 
Can anyone comment/rank IM programs in Philadelphia?

I heard really really great things about Albert Einstein in Philadelphia.
Other local universities include: UPenn, Temple, Jeff, Drexel, Abington, Crozer, Lehigh Valley and Lankenau...

Doximity residency statistics seems to suggestion: Einstein/UPenn > Temple/Jeff/Drexel > Rest

Thoughts? Anyone got interviews from Einstein or UPenn yet? (or is Lankenau the only one offering IV so far?)

Thanks in advance!
(We are looking into Philly for my wife's IM residency application - I'm interviewing for fellowships this cycle and hope to land a spot at Penn!)
 
Can anyone comment/rank IM programs in Philadelphia?

I heard really really great things about Albert Einstein in Philadelphia.
Other local universities include: UPenn, Temple, Jeff, Drexel, Abington, Crozer, Lehigh Valley and Lankenau...

Doximity residency statistics seems to suggestion: Einstein/UPenn > Temple/Jeff/Drexel > Rest

Thoughts? Anyone got interviews from Einstein or UPenn yet? (or is Lankenau the only one offering IV so far?)

Thanks in advance!
(We are looking into Philly for my wife's IM residency application - I'm interviewing for fellowships this cycle and hope to land a spot at Penn!)

Yet another reason to NOT follow Doximity "rankings". They have a bunch of monkeys throwing darts creating their rankings...
 
Can anyone shed a light on Univ of Louisville program, KY?
 
Anyone who has done rotations or knows anyone at the following hospitals have any insight on the IM programs? Which to avoid, which to give a chance? I'm coming from out of state and any advice is super appreciated and helpful. Thank you!

Swedish Covenant, Chicago
Riverside Medical Center, Kanakee
Franciscan St James Hospital, Olympia Fields
Advocate Lutheran General, Park Ridge
 
Also, any thoughts on California DO programs, particularly "Community Memorial Health System, Ventura, CA" vs "Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, Colton, CA"? Thank you again!
 
Any opinions on University of Illiniois- Chicago's IM program? I think the general vibe is U Chicago=Northwestern > Rush=Loyola > UIC. Any thoughts would really be appreciated.
 
Anyone know if Tufts typically sends invites in multiple waves? Trying to decide if I want to email at some point.
 
Anyone know if Tufts typically sends invites in multiple waves? Trying to decide if I want to email at some point.
Essentially every IM program sends invites on more than one occasion. If you don't hear back by mid-November, send an email. Otherwise leave it alone.
 
Any opinions on University of Illiniois- Chicago's IM program? I think the general vibe is U Chicago=Northwestern > Rush=Loyola > UIC. Any thoughts would really be appreciated.

What is the best community program outside of these in chicago? There are a ton and I have no idea where to start since I'm not from there
 
Any opinions on Drexel if considering possible cardiology fellowship?
 
Replace that second > with a = and you have my thoughts.
In terms of academic prestige, I'd argue that UIC generally ranks above Rush or Loyola.

Clinically they seem to be of similar caliber and serve similar patient populations. UIC is a public hospital that also gets a lot of tertiary care referrals. Rush is the one with a shiny new facility. UIC and Loyola have VA affiliations, while Rush residents can rotate at Cook County.
 
As a midwesterner, I'm not too familiar with the Philly programs. Obviously Upenn on top, but where do Temple, Drexel, and Jefferson come into the mix? End goal = GI
 
hello, can someone rank the following programs: Rochester, Utah, Cleveland clinic, Albert Einstein, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Georgetown, UC Irvine? For cardiology vs. overall IM program reputation. thank you.
 
hello, can someone rank the following programs: Rochester, Utah, Cleveland clinic, Albert Einstein, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Georgetown, UC Irvine? For cardiology vs. overall IM program reputation. thank you.

General Geshtalt for both general IM and Cards:


Georgetown > Iowa/CCF/UCI > others
IN the end, they are all in a similar tier (upper mid-tier) and you are going to be in good shape with them.
 
thank you so much. i appreciate your input.

Any thoughts about ranking the following 6 programs in terms of overall reputation and cardiology fellowship:
Michigan, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, Virginia, UTSW, Case western

thank you.
 
thank you so much. i appreciate your input.

Any thoughts about ranking the following 6 programs in terms of overall reputation and cardiology fellowship:
Michigan, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, Virginia, UTSW, Case western

thank you.

UMich>/=UTSW>UVa>UWisco=UPitt>Case
 
thank you so much. i appreciate your input.

Any thoughts about ranking the following 6 programs in terms of overall reputation and cardiology fellowship:
Michigan, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, Virginia, UTSW, Case western

thank you.
UTSW>Michigan>UVa=Wisconsin=Pittsburgh>Case Western
 
Can anyone shed some light on the ranking of the following programs for IM and cardiology?
IU, case, university of Maryland, temple, Thomas Jefferson, university of Minnesota, Hofstra new Hyde park, Mt Sinai St Luke.

Thank you so much!
 
Can anyone shed some light on the ranking of the following programs for IM and cardiology?
IU, case, university of Maryland, temple, Thomas Jefferson, university of Minnesota, Hofstra new Hyde park, Mt Sinai St Luke.

Thank you so much!
UMinn/UMD/IU
Case/TJ
Temple/LIJ
St. Lukes
 
Anyone know if Tufts only sends out 1 wave of invites? Looking at last year it seems that's pattern, was hoping for some insight into this. Thanks!
 
Anyone have any on University of Chicago Northshore at Evanston Hospital? The most recent reviews seem to be from 2011 and I wanted to see if there was any changes since then. Thanks.
 
Any opinions on Mayo vs. MUSC vs. Boston vs. Thomas Jefferson? I go to school in Chicago and am trying to decide which flights to book right away versus what interviews I might cancel. Thanks!
 
Any opinions on Mayo vs. MUSC vs. Boston vs. Thomas Jefferson? I go to school in Chicago and am trying to decide which flights to book right away versus what interviews I might cancel. Thanks!

Your opinion of Mayo really comes down to how you feel about the location and culture. It's a very strong program and you'll get really good training but are you willing to live in Rochester, MN and put up with the stuffy culture? Personally I didn't even apply there.

With regards to the rest IMO: BU >= TJ > MUSC (though I don't know much/anything about this last one, it's just what I gleaned from other posts)
 
I received an interview invite from Cornell today, but every single interview date on interview broker had already been taken. So I clicked a day that works for me and am now on the "waitlist" for that day. Is this typical for programs to offer more interview spots than are available, or should i contact their program regarding this issue.
 
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