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We're having a lot of tech turn-over...we only really have one amazeballs tech in the first place, two or three pretty good and the rest either new or painful incompetent. And the shifts are poorly thought out so certain shifts get stuck with zero "good" techs. The amazeballs one is apparently going to quit soon and she is training a new person with literally zero experience.

I get it, you learn on the job. I did, and I was an alright tech. But when literally the majority of our techs are now very inexperienced with only a couple standing out as "acceptable", it's scary. And it makes me not want to work here even more. I almost wish I had applied to the opening I saw a few months back with like EIGHT licensed techs. What a dream.

🙁

You have my sympathy. We've had some rough patches where we've had a lot of inexperienced or incompetent (or both) assistants, and it always made me feel bad for the doctors. They'd get behind on appointments all the time, in part because they'd have to hand-hold people because they couldn't trust them to do things properly. It's frustrating enough to be another assistant picking up the slack and cleaning up other people's messes. I can't imagine how stressful it must be to be the doctor in that kind of situation. 🙁 I hope things start picking up soon. These problems have a way of working themselves out, but it takes time and it's draining to have to put up with. Hoping you get some good, experienced new hires soon!
 
We're having a lot of tech turn-over...we only really have one amazeballs tech in the first place, two or three pretty good and the rest either new or painful incompetent. And the shifts are poorly thought out so certain shifts get stuck with zero "good" techs. The amazeballs one is apparently going to quit soon and she is training a new person with literally zero experience.

I get it, you learn on the job. I did, and I was an alright tech. But when literally the majority of our techs are now very inexperienced with only a couple standing out as "acceptable", it's scary. And it makes me not want to work here even more. I almost wish I had applied to the opening I saw a few months back with like EIGHT licensed techs. What a dream.

I feel your pain, we have had a few techs quit recently, luckily we have had a couple of the good techs remain and a couple of decent ones but they are still learning too having only been around for a few months, but we now have a number of new techs in training and a couple of them are definitely learning on the job, so there is a lot for them to learn. I am sure they will do just fine, but for now, they really don't know anything. It has definitely required the doctors to do a lot of tech stuff lately, which isn't a big deal but it definitely cuts into the day and makes the laundry list of stuff you have to do as a doctor take much longer. And one of the techs isn't the greatest with frustrated clients and a couple of situations have been made worse because of this.

I can definitely sympathize with you on this.
 
We're having a lot of tech turn-over...we only really have one amazeballs tech in the first place, two or three pretty good and the rest either new or painful incompetent. And the shifts are poorly thought out so certain shifts get stuck with zero "good" techs. The amazeballs one is apparently going to quit soon and she is training a new person with literally zero experience.

I get it, you learn on the job. I did, and I was an alright tech. But when literally the majority of our techs are now very inexperienced with only a couple standing out as "acceptable", it's scary. And it makes me not want to work here even more. I almost wish I had applied to the opening I saw a few months back with like EIGHT licensed techs. What a dream.
I'm a very big proponent of treating great techs well. I can't do my job without a tech and a good one is worth holding onto. Treating them like they're disposable means they won't stay
 
I'm a very big proponent of treating great techs well. I can't do my job without a tech and a good one is worth holding onto. Treating them like they're disposable means they won't stay
I was talking about this just yesterday! A third year was telling me she feels like techs often know more than she does. I told her for the rest of vet school and likely throughout all of her rotating, they will know more than she does and if you treat them well, they will have your back. Good techs are worth their weight in gold.
 
I could not sleep for **** last night. Ugh

Me either and I even worked out so it was annoying.

Us either. The power company was working on stuff so our power was out from 11pm til 3am. Not a huge deal but we sleep with an air purifier on for the white noise. Without it we heard dogs barking way off in the distance, one of our dogs cleaning himself, another of our dogs snoring, and one of our cats spontaneously running down the hallway. It was great
 
Been very nauseous the past two days and can't shake it. And of course today was my anatomy lab final. 60 very stinky cadaver dogs and nausea do not mix. Needless to say, I was glad when it was over.
 
So imagine you graduate from vet school, wait around town a year while halfhearted job hunting, but really trying to decide if you want to continue in academia. You get approached about a job in a remote place, but with lots of old friends local, and they are searching specifically for you because of your specialty, your management experience and your mixed animal skill set, including some techniques that only a handful of people in the country know how to do.

You interview. It is a small animal clinic currently, with a plan already drafted for expansion. They show you exactly how integral to the expansion you would be and how the local market is demanding a mixed animal practicioner and how within 1-2 years they would be bringing in many of the specialty equipment pieces you need for advanced techniques (just imagine laproscopic surgery only I'm actually talking about embryos: cloning, trophectoderm biopsy, genome analysis, reverse semen sorting yada yada yada). They talk about having you head an internship program connected to your alma mater. The current vet is a skilled small animal general practioner and could show you ways to improve your general techniques while you advance her specialty knowledge. She is pregnant, so there is a timeline set in place for you to take over the hospital by yourself. You work out a verbal hiring package and head home with 2 months before your start date.

Then, you never receive a written copy of your hiring agreement. Things that were agreed to fall to the wayside. The boss is an animal sciences grad who has a very successful vet for a father and that is why he was placed in this position. Like an idiot, you let the little things slide like: he promised to pay for your move and then only offered about 1/4 of the cost of moving when it came time. Nobody talks at this hospital so it takes longer to do everything than it should. Your co vet sets up a tech to show you around and get you used to the procedures around this hospital. At first, you think great, she's more social and easier to talk with. Then you realize that the rest of the staff is treating you as a tech. You approach the hiring manager asking what is up and get told "I made the other vet mad about something a few months ago. She would rather work by herself and doesn't want anything to change. I promised her that she could evaluate your skills and decide when you are ready to book appointments. At that point you will have all the privelages associated with your position."
So you play nice. You do all the prep work and cleaning and grunt work because, for the most part, it is showing you the hospital flow. You have to follow the other vet around like a shadow whenever a patient is there and pass her instruments. As her belly gets bigger, you see how much more difficult it is for her to do things (and you did that while in school so you can totally relate). Yet you still are not being given any extra reaponsibilities and when you take jobs upon yourself, you are berated for not asking. 2 months in, you are allowed to walk boarding and hospitalized patients and clean their kennels. You are allowed to perform dentals and surgery only on staff animals and only while the other vet stares over your shoulder and critiques your hand position, suture choices, stich in techniques... every nuance of your technique, only it isn't critical so much as a tactic to slow you down. Especially when you are breaking her time and skill standards, she works to slow you down. She stomps her feet and pouts if you distract her by talking about her pregnancy so you can just get your work done. If you succeed, you are punished by having what few patients you are allowed to see removed from the schedule. If you suck up, you are rewarded with token jobs. To stress this, the other vet starts allowing her tech to do dentals and nutrition consults and anal glands and then sits back and smiles at your frustration when you are told now to shadow the tech in appointments. This tech and the receptionist up front start making comments about how you have no training in comparison to the head doctor and how you need to learn your place. Every time there is a problem you are met with: you learned useless **** in an ivory tower. This is the real world. The head vet knows what is right and you need to shut your face.

You meet with the office manager asking where things are headed. He tells you just to hold on. You explain the treatment you've been getting and ask if anybody knows your actual position. Not yet. So they think you are a tech who has been stepping out of position and trying to offer medical advice. Great.

Then, the receptionist and "head vet" get into an email fight with a field vet loosely associated with the hospital over who is the boss of procedure on field calls. During the meeting with the office manager/practice owner, the head vet mentions that her plan is to keep you on kennel duty for the next year or so. Probably never let you do any real work with clients as she has decided you are now one of her techs. The building expansion is still going to happen, but no intern program and they will likely hire someone else to run all that fancy equipment if they ever get any at all.

The "head vet," who was supposed to be your equal, got what she wanted all along. She gets to keep working by herself. No questions to her authority and power. She will continue to smile every time you meekly go along with this, after all, what are your choices? You spent everything to move out here. There are few if any job opportunities elsewhere in the area. What do you do?
Your title is still Senior Veterinarian/ Hospital Manager, but you are only allowed the duties of a veterinary assistant. What do you put on your resume when you job hunt? Do you stick this out for 6 months so it is a time worth putting on a resume? You have a family relying on your salary (which fits your title, so I guess at least you are paid well for standing in a corner and taking abuse), so you can't just walk away. You could sell all your farm animals and give up on your home dreams to afford a move, but you will be trading one version of crying for another...

What would you do?
 
PSA: If you walk into work and there are already 5754577 notes on your desk and you've already been asked 6467 questions before you've even sat down, it will be a bad day.
 
So imagine you graduate from vet school, wait around town a year while halfhearted job hunting, but really trying to decide if you want to continue in academia. You get approached about a job in a remote place, but with lots of old friends local, and they are searching specifically for you because of your specialty, your management experience and your mixed animal skill set, including some techniques that only a handful of people in the country know how to do.

You interview. It is a small animal clinic currently, with a plan already drafted for expansion. They show you exactly how integral to the expansion you would be and how the local market is demanding a mixed animal practicioner and how within 1-2 years they would be bringing in many of the specialty equipment pieces you need for advanced techniques (just imagine laproscopic surgery only I'm actually talking about embryos: cloning, trophectoderm biopsy, genome analysis, reverse semen sorting yada yada yada). They talk about having you head an internship program connected to your alma mater. The current vet is a skilled small animal general practioner and could show you ways to improve your general techniques while you advance her specialty knowledge. She is pregnant, so there is a timeline set in place for you to take over the hospital by yourself. You work out a verbal hiring package and head home with 2 months before your start date.

Then, you never receive a written copy of your hiring agreement. Things that were agreed to fall to the wayside. The boss is an animal sciences grad who has a very successful vet for a father and that is why he was placed in this position. Like an idiot, you let the little things slide like: he promised to pay for your move and then only offered about 1/4 of the cost of moving when it came time. Nobody talks at this hospital so it takes longer to do everything than it should. Your co vet sets up a tech to show you around and get you used to the procedures around this hospital. At first, you think great, she's more social and easier to talk with. Then you realize that the rest of the staff is treating you as a tech. You approach the hiring manager asking what is up and get told "I made the other vet mad about something a few months ago. She would rather work by herself and doesn't want anything to change. I promised her that she could evaluate your skills and decide when you are ready to book appointments. At that point you will have all the privelages associated with your position."
So you play nice. You do all the prep work and cleaning and grunt work because, for the most part, it is showing you the hospital flow. You have to follow the other vet around like a shadow whenever a patient is there and pass her instruments. As her belly gets bigger, you see how much more difficult it is for her to do things (and you did that while in school so you can totally relate). Yet you still are not being given any extra reaponsibilities and when you take jobs upon yourself, you are berated for not asking. 2 months in, you are allowed to walk boarding and hospitalized patients and clean their kennels. You are allowed to perform dentals and surgery only on staff animals and only while the other vet stares over your shoulder and critiques your hand position, suture choices, stich in techniques... every nuance of your technique, only it isn't critical so much as a tactic to slow you down. Especially when you are breaking her time and skill standards, she works to slow you down. She stomps her feet and pouts if you distract her by talking about her pregnancy so you can just get your work done. If you succeed, you are punished by having what few patients you are allowed to see removed from the schedule. If you suck up, you are rewarded with token jobs. To stress this, the other vet starts allowing her tech to do dentals and nutrition consults and anal glands and then sits back and smiles at your frustration when you are told now to shadow the tech in appointments. This tech and the receptionist up front start making comments about how you have no training in comparison to the head doctor and how you need to learn your place. Every time there is a problem you are met with: you learned useless **** in an ivory tower. This is the real world. The head vet knows what is right and you need to shut your face.

You meet with the office manager asking where things are headed. He tells you just to hold on. You explain the treatment you've been getting and ask if anybody knows your actual position. Not yet. So they think you are a tech who has been stepping out of position and trying to offer medical advice. Great.

Then, the receptionist and "head vet" get into an email fight with a field vet loosely associated with the hospital over who is the boss of procedure on field calls. During the meeting with the office manager/practice owner, the head vet mentions that her plan is to keep you on kennel duty for the next year or so. Probably never let you do any real work with clients as she has decided you are now one of her techs. The building expansion is still going to happen, but no intern program and they will likely hire someone else to run all that fancy equipment if they ever get any at all.

The "head vet," who was supposed to be your equal, got what she wanted all along. She gets to keep working by herself. No questions to her authority and power. She will continue to smile every time you meekly go along with this, after all, what are your choices? You spent everything to move out here. There are few if any job opportunities elsewhere in the area. What do you do?
Your title is still Senior Veterinarian/ Hospital Manager, but you are only allowed the duties of a veterinary assistant. What do you put on your resume when you job hunt? Do you stick this out for 6 months so it is a time worth putting on a resume? You have a family relying on your salary (which fits your title, so I guess at least you are paid well for standing in a corner and taking abuse), so you can't just walk away. You could sell all your farm animals and give up on your home dreams to afford a move, but you will be trading one version of crying for another...

What would you do?

It sounds like a dysfunctional **** show with no signs of improvement.

I would cut my losses and GTFO.

I think a lot of new grads get duped into thinking they found the 'perfect clinic' - and then they learn the dirty, dirty truth. Then they feel bad for leaving too soon because it will look bad, blah blah.

It happens a lot, enough that people will understand. So don't worry about that.
 
It sounds like a dysfunctional **** show with no signs of improvement.

I would cut my losses and GTFO.

I think a lot of new grads get duped into thinking they found the 'perfect clinic' - and then they learn the dirty, dirty truth. Then they feel bad for leaving too soon because it will look bad, blah blah.

It happens a lot, enough that people will understand. So don't worry about that.

Yup, I'd run away and never return. Never look back. There is much much better out there and in doing the job you went to school to do.
 
It really sucks.🙁

I was gonna help build this lab into something awesome. The boss strung me along and then stabbed me in the heart rather than face the wrath of the employee with senority. Even though she has cancelled all our customers rather than "train" a replacement for while she's on maternity leave.

She just keeps telling him she can do anything he wants... but when I described micromanipulation and the tools and techniques, she acted like I was making things up. That it wasn't possible. There is a language barrier, but still... this place is (as my husband likes to say) turning into a "dumpster fire."

Thank you for calming my biggest fears though. I have no idea how I will address this on a resume. Whether to just leave a giant gap, use my title and the duties on the hiring email, or the duties I was actually allowed to perform...

I do think when asked in an interview I will probably say something along the lines of "I was hired in anticipation of a expansion of the laboratory and all it's capabilities. Due to internal politics, this plan was changed in such a way that my skills and experience were no longer fundamental to operations and my training was no longer a priority. I am leaving to find a position where I can be an integral part of the team and continue to advance in the field." Or something along those lines.
 
I do think when asked in an interview I will probably say something along the lines of "I was hired in anticipation of a expansion of the laboratory and all it's capabilities. Due to internal politics, this plan was changed in such a way that my skills and experience were no longer fundamental to operations and my training was no longer a priority. I am leaving to find a position where I can be an integral part of the team and continue to advance in the field." Or something along those lines.

I would have a hard time not calling it a 'dumpster fire' instead - I think your husband's description is apt.
 
I would have a hard time not calling it a 'dumpster fire' instead - I think your husband's description is apt.
So write under my title on the resume:

Stupid lab Somewhere, MT
June - August 2016
Senior Embryologist / Lab manager
-Hired to assist in expansion of operations including implementation of super awesome tech stuff.
-Duties included watching the dumpster fire burn.

Interviewer: Explain what happened in MT?
LotF: It was a dumpster fire. I GTFO.
Interviewer: (stunned silence) Care to elaborate?
LotF: It reeked of looming doom and death. There were people trying to smother the stench by adding more trash. I figured the flames would be prettier from a distance.

(Funny story: They are planning on expanding the lab right next to the leech field. It has already flooded twice before ruining all the floors. The toilets currently do not work after about noon or anytime the laundry is running.)
 
Tell them that they hired you to do A but you spent all your time doing B instead. No one wants to clean kennels or whatever scut work after they have done the work to do other more sophisticated things. You can also mention the unpleasant dynamics. It's all fair.
 
Tell them that they hired you to do A but you spent all your time doing B instead. No one wants to clean kennels or whatever scut work after they have done the work to do other more sophisticated things. You can also mention the unpleasant dynamics. It's all fair.
I did. They basically said that keeping the senority around who purposefully is losing them clients is more important. Besides, she said she doesn't believe I am capable of what I say I am, without any chance to prove myself, so...
 
I did. They basically said that keeping the senority around who purposefully is losing them clients is more important. Besides, she said she doesn't believe I am capable of what I say I am, without any chance to prove myself, so...
TT might mean tell new labs that you weren't doing the job you were hired to do
 
For some reason the housing/dining department thinks everyone needs a week's worth of 9-5 training to figure out how to work at the front desk of a residence hall. I've worked this job before for a year and still need a week of training. I was expecting like a day max of training to teach people about things like sorting mail.

But no, a week. :yeahright:

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So, my school does the distributive model thing. For fourth year (and third) we have a preceptor in charge of us and who also fills out an evaluation for us. I got to my new rotation on Monday and discovered yesterday that I don't have a preceptor... Asked another student about it and she said she had the same problem, before arriving at the new site, and was told to cancel it and schedule a new one. I just paid to fly out to Boston, and I'm really enjoying working with these surgeons. Going to be pretty irritated if I'm told this doesn't count as a valid rotation.
 
So, my school does the distributive model thing. For fourth year (and third) we have a preceptor in charge of us and who also fills out an evaluation for us. I got to my new rotation on Monday and discovered yesterday that I don't have a preceptor... Asked another student about it and she said she had the same problem, before arriving at the new site, and was told to cancel it and schedule a new one. I just paid to fly out to Boston, and I'm really enjoying working with these surgeons. Going to be pretty irritated if I'm told this doesn't count as a valid rotation.
Eep! Godspeed!!
 
Eep! Godspeed!!
Thanks! Hopefully they just misplaced some paperwork? There has to be a preceptor assigned when you turn in the form to the rotation site (that they then mail back to the school) and, to my knowledge, no one has left this site recently so I don't know how a preceptor is magically missing in our computer system. But I really like this place and want to apply for their internship, so I don't want to leave 🙁
 
Came home to my dog skull from anatomy on my floor and my dog happily wagging his tail at me. Mandible split in half at the symphysis, zygomatic arch broken and some teeth missing. I swear if he poops out teeth tomorrw...
The first anatomy skull I ever got was because somebody dropped it in lab and broke it. Lab Coordinator told me to take it home.

Missing an angular process and condylar process of the mandible, a zygomatic arch, teeth, both nasal bones, mandible (mostly) broken at the symphysis, and lots of other little cracks here and there.

I named it Major Tom.
 
The first anatomy skull I ever got was because somebody dropped it in lab and broke it. Lab Coordinator told me to take it home.

Missing an angular process and condylar process of the mandible, a zygomatic arch, teeth, both nasal bones, mandible (mostly) broken at the symphysis, and lots of other little cracks here and there.

I named it Major Tom.
This is ground control
 
This is ground control
I couldn't decide whether to name it Voldemort (because no nasal bones) or Major Tom (because ground control came to him very fast that day).

I decided on Major Tom because Voldemort's name is Tom Riddle so I got to have both. 😉
 
Came home to my dog skull from anatomy on my floor and my dog happily wagging his tail at me. Mandible split in half at the symphysis, zygomatic arch broken and some teeth missing. I swear if he poops out teeth tomorrw...
Imagine if you came home to your roommate/friend/family member chewing on a human skull...
 
Giant thunderstorm blowing in. Wind gusts have got to be topping 60-80 mph plus and I just took a barn door to the side of the head.
Ow.
Incentive to keep working on the rebuild? (Even though it looks like we'll probably be moving again soon:arghh:)
 
All of the cats in this house are part of a giant conspiracy to make me flee my own home because of the smell. One measly BM from either of them and it feels like I need a gas mask. I have to run in and scoop right away or I think I might die. :dead:

I think this is what sins smell like.
 
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