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I absolutely loathe my apartment complex. They are horrible people and this is a terrible place to live if you have anything other than an 8-5 schedule. They are noisy all day long (the maintenance people not the tenants!!). They are currently renovating the apartment below me which is unused. It's been going on for over a week. Hammers and screw drivers and ripping things up. Its a freaking 500 sq foot place!! There's no way this project should have taken more than a day or two, but they seem find of being lazy and dragging things out as long as possible. I wouldn't care if I want working overnights currently, but it is infuriating to not be able to sleep because they are "landscaping" or blowing leaves around (daily occurrence) or want to renovate an apartment forever. I have never lived somewhere so constantly noisy. And a few weeks ago, they spent a week ripping up and repaving a road all night long! 3 hours of sleep last night, working overnight tonight. Enraged. 😡
 
I absolutely loathe my apartment complex. They are horrible people and this is a terrible place to live if you have anything other than an 8-5 schedule. They are noisy all day long (the maintenance people not the tenants!!). They are currently renovating the apartment below me which is unused. It's been going on for over a week. Hammers and screw drivers and ripping things up. Its a freaking 500 sq foot place!! There's no way this project should have taken more than a day or two, but they seem find of being lazy and dragging things out as long as possible. I wouldn't care if I want working overnights currently, but it is infuriating to not be able to sleep because they are "landscaping" or blowing leaves around (daily occurrence) or want to renovate an apartment forever. I have never lived somewhere so constantly noisy. And a few weeks ago, they spent a week ripping up and repaving a road all night long! 3 hours of sleep last night, working overnight tonight. Enraged. 😡
Have you tried earplugs? I know they don't block all the noise, but maybe enough so you can sleep.
 
Have you tried earplugs? I know they don't block all the noise, but maybe enough so you can sleep.
I have them and they work for things like lawn mowers, but these guys are so loud they are vibrating my walls and bed. Oh well. Who needs more than 3 hours of sleep in a 48 hour period with multiple insane er shifts anyway??
 
I absolutely loathe my apartment complex. They are horrible people and this is a terrible place to live if you have anything other than an 8-5 schedule. They are noisy all day long (the maintenance people not the tenants!!). They are currently renovating the apartment below me which is unused. It's been going on for over a week. Hammers and screw drivers and ripping things up. Its a freaking 500 sq foot place!! There's no way this project should have taken more than a day or two, but they seem find of being lazy and dragging things out as long as possible. I wouldn't care if I want working overnights currently, but it is infuriating to not be able to sleep because they are "landscaping" or blowing leaves around (daily occurrence) or want to renovate an apartment forever. I have never lived somewhere so constantly noisy. And a few weeks ago, they spent a week ripping up and repaving a road all night long! 3 hours of sleep last night, working overnight tonight. Enraged. 😡

I've been through this but with tenants making noise- music so loud it vibrates my walls and floor for hours each day. My management company claimed to be contacting them and I went through it for MONTHS before my management yelled at ME for complaining telling me that I'm overreacting even though the lease clearly discusses music. The tenants were moving out so they figured I could survive for 3 months 😡. Oh, I also had a migraine for the last month of it. Definitely moving out of here when my lease is up!!!
 
I have them and they work for things like lawn mowers, but these guys are so loud they are vibrating my walls and bed. Oh well. Who needs more than 3 hours of sleep in a 48 hour period with multiple insane er shifts anyway??

If I end up down there, you'll have to give me the name of the place so I can avoid it.
 
In this week's most first world problem rant, my bf picked up pizza for the new years bonfire this evening and after 7 freaking years of dating and me specifically saying I'd like something simple (plain cheese, or maybe just mushrooms), nothing crazy, he comes home with a meatlover's and a supreme.

Cool. I'll just drink instead I guess. 👍

AM edit: drank a lot. pizza sucked. this is a ridiculous rant. 😛
 
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Work rant: my fire detection system has been going off on and off since 6:30 this morning and the school won't do anything until tomorrow. Called them at 8:00 this morning and again at 6:00 this evening. All they said is they won't call anyone till tomorrow.

Really? You're going to require the some of the res life staff to be back a week and a half before they need to be here for training, but you won't provide supporting services? I understand not having all of maintenance back since only about 20% of students are back, but you won't even have an on call staff for plumbing or electrical issues? They're just as necessary as I am, if not more so!!! I understand you only want to call in an absolute emergency, but I would consider my fire detection system malfunctioning as an emergency
 
5th heartworm positive patient in a month (it's actually a month to the day since the first one). For some reason I always end up being the VA for these appointments. I'm getting tired of the treatment spiel. There was only one that I didn't have to go over the cost of treatment for, because that one was a cat. Each successive owner seems to understand less and be willing to pay for the treatment less. The lady who had just gotten her dog two days before was the most agreeable. Lady today who has had the dog for 9 years was set on euthanizing even though the dog wasn't exhibiting any symptoms.

Every dog needs to come with a "heartworm treatment is hella expensive" notice so people take prevention seriously.
 
5th heartworm positive patient in a month (it's actually a month to the day since the first one). For some reason I always end up being the VA for these appointments. I'm getting tired of the treatment spiel. There was only one that I didn't have to go over the cost of treatment for, because that one was a cat. Each successive owner seems to understand less and be willing to pay for the treatment less. The lady who had just gotten her dog two days before was the most agreeable. Lady today who has had the dog for 9 years was set on euthanizing even though the dog wasn't exhibiting any symptoms.

Every dog needs to come with a "heartworm treatment is hella expensive" notice so people take prevention seriously.

I've found that proper explanation of how the preventative actually works (retroactively) and the life cycle helped me get owners to go on prevention as a vet assistant. Haven't had my GP rotation yet to see how it goes when I'm viewed more as a clinician.
 
I've found that proper explanation of how the preventative actually works (retroactively) and the life cycle helped me get owners to go on prevention as a vet assistant. Haven't had my GP rotation yet to see how it goes when I'm viewed more as a clinician.
I actually haven't had trouble selling anyone on heartworm prevention of some kind. Now, whether or not they are consistently compliant is a whole other thing...we may sell them 6 months of Trifexis and find out that when they come back for their next exam they have 4 months of it left. All of these pets were new to us though. Two were recent shelter adoptees, so no fault of the owners'. One knowingly adopted a hw positive dog, which I thought was nice, the other adopted what they thought was a heartworm negative dog and found out it was actually heartworm positive a month later when it was retested. One was a cat so...idk. I think they should be on hw prevention. But a lot of people don't bother with it. The other two though...those were the ones where the owners had them for a long while and just were not keeping up to date on prevention, hw tests, or vet visits in general.
 
Had a few days off from work so I thought I'd do some work on the butt ugly bathroom.

Took all the hardware out, spackled, painted ceilings and walls. Things were looking pretty. But the medicine cabinet was giant, ugly and from the 1970s and it looked crappy with my pretty paint.

So I took it down. And there's a giant hole in the drywall that it was covering up, as well as old light switches to nothing. FML I hate drywall and I'm scared of electricity so this is above my ability to fix.

I think the replacement mirror I bought will cover all of it but now I know there's a hole in the wall and it's driving me nuts.

One more coat of paint and hang the new towel bars and the rest will be done though!
 
Holy eff. Passive aggressive roommates. Seriously, I don't want to deal with this crap as soon as I walk in my door , especially when it's something I know gets done just not quite at the exact moment (and it's not something that is time sensitive and needs to be done right that second) that it is apparently expected to be done by.
 
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Speeding ticket in West Virginia. "Clocked you at 83, but I'll help you out". Ticket says 81. Don't really know how that helped. Aargh sometimes I forget that I'm not in Michigan where you don't get pulled over unless you're going 90+. At least I wasn't at home in Virginia because 83 would be reckless, which is a misdameanor.😕
 
Speeding ticket in West Virginia. "Clocked you at 83, but I'll help you out". Ticket says 81. Don't really know how that helped. Aargh sometimes I forget that I'm not in Michigan where you don't get pulled over unless you're going 90+. At least I wasn't at home in Virginia because 83 would be reckless, which is a misdameanor.😕
probably kept it in a different bracket for license points or fine.
 
Got bit not once, but twice today at work by two entirely different dogs. First was just unclipping a leash and it just snapped out of nowhere after it had been jumping up on me playfully and letting me pet it. Second was restraining for a pedicure and dog went crazy. No real damage done, but ugh.
 
annoyed to find out we will actually be spending yet another rotation at a satellite facility where the case load and technical support are minimal. it also makes ou rvirmp stats even less accurate. no problem, i totally wanted to drive an extra 40 miles a day for an extra month on an underpaid interns salary.
 
annoyed to find out we will actually be spending yet another rotation at a satellite facility where the case load and technical support are minimal. it also makes ou rvirmp stats even less accurate. no problem, i totally wanted to drive an extra 40 miles a day for an extra month on an underpaid interns salary.

Ewww that is super lame!!! 40 miles is a pretty long haul on very little sleep 🙁
 
yup - and it means filling up once a week instead of once a month...irritating

the whole traveling to satellite facilities thing is definitely something I'm gonna keep in mind...
 
annoyed to find out we will actually be spending yet another rotation at a satellite facility where the case load and technical support are minimal. it also makes ou rvirmp stats even less accurate. no problem, i totally wanted to drive an extra 40 miles a day for an extra month on an underpaid interns salary.

Saw this post after you sent that message. Good to know. Really, really appreciate the heads up.
 
5th heartworm positive patient in a month (it's actually a month to the day since the first one). For some reason I always end up being the VA for these appointments. I'm getting tired of the treatment spiel. There was only one that I didn't have to go over the cost of treatment for, because that one was a cat. Each successive owner seems to understand less and be willing to pay for the treatment less. The lady who had just gotten her dog two days before was the most agreeable. Lady today who has had the dog for 9 years was set on euthanizing even though the dog wasn't exhibiting any symptoms.

Every dog needs to come with a "heartworm treatment is hella expensive" notice so people take prevention seriously.

I've found that proper explanation of how the preventative actually works (retroactively) and the life cycle helped me get owners to go on prevention as a vet assistant. Haven't had my GP rotation yet to see how it goes when I'm viewed more as a clinician.

I actually haven't had trouble selling anyone on heartworm prevention of some kind. Now, whether or not they are consistently compliant is a whole other thing...we may sell them 6 months of Trifexis and find out that when they come back for their next exam they have 4 months of it left. All of these pets were new to us though. Two were recent shelter adoptees, so no fault of the owners'. One knowingly adopted a hw positive dog, which I thought was nice, the other adopted what they thought was a heartworm negative dog and found out it was actually heartworm positive a month later when it was retested. One was a cat so...idk. I think they should be on hw prevention. But a lot of people don't bother with it. The other two though...those were the ones where the owners had them for a long while and just were not keeping up to date on prevention, hw tests, or vet visits in general.

This conversation is really interesting because my mother has never put her dogs on hw prevention or flee/tick prevention (we do get the yard sprayed for ticks, but that wouldn't make a difference for heartworm obviously.)

She had her first dog for 14 years, and our current one for 10, and they've tested negative every time. Obviously that is what makes her super reluctant to start now, since she was fine for 25 years, she doesn't get why everyone pushes for it. I totally see where she's coming from, so it's hard to be convincing. Also apparently our first dog, the one who lived to 14 or 15 used to vomit everytime she was given heartgard, which was the original reason she took the dog off it, and never put the new one on it.
 
This conversation is really interesting because my mother has never put her dogs on hw prevention or flee/tick prevention (we do get the yard sprayed for ticks, but that wouldn't make a difference for heartworm obviously.)

She had her first dog for 14 years, and our current one for 10, and they've tested negative every time. Obviously that is what makes her super reluctant to start now, since she was fine for 25 years, she doesn't get why everyone pushes for it. I totally see where she's coming from, so it's hard to be convincing. Also apparently our first dog, the one who lived to 14 or 15 used to vomit everytime she was given heartgard, which was the original reason she took the dog off it, and never put the new one on it.

Sometimes it depends on where you live. In Florida, not giving your dog hw preventative is practically a death sentence since there are SO many mosquitos and SO many hw positive dogs. My grandad was telling me that hw preventative used to be once a day instead of once a month (or 6), and his dog got loose and was gone for a week. When he got her back, he started her up on the pill again but it was too late, she had already contracted the disease and ended up dying.

While working at a vet in south FL, I saw probably 10-15 times more cases in one month than I have in super west TX in 2 years. But I also think it depends how much time the dog spends outside. Indoor dogs are less likely to get hw than inside dogs, but it still happens all the time!
 
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This conversation is really interesting because my mother has never put her dogs on hw prevention or flee/tick prevention (we do get the yard sprayed for ticks, but that wouldn't make a difference for heartworm obviously.)

She had her first dog for 14 years, and our current one for 10, and they've tested negative every time. Obviously that is what makes her super reluctant to start now, since she was fine for 25 years, she doesn't get why everyone pushes for it. I totally see where she's coming from, so it's hard to be convincing. Also apparently our first dog, the one who lived to 14 or 15 used to vomit everytime she was given heartgard, which was the original reason she took the dog off it, and never put the new one on it.
Well I'm in florida, land of mosquitos, so not having your dog on hw prevention is just asking for trouble and a $2k treatment plan later on.
 
Didn't realize that about Florida! We're in New England, so it's definitely not as common. I think someone told me Boston gets 400-500 cases per year, and I would assume more in CT where my parents are since it's more woodsy, there are more mosquitos, but I'm not sure. In her area, the lack of flea/tick prevention tends to be the bigger concern because LYME is so prevalent in that area.
 
I find this kind of fascinating, heartworm incidence maps
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https://www.heartwormsociety.org/veterinary-resources/incidence-maps
 
I think that even if you're in a relatively low incidence area, prevention is still inportant. There is no state that is conpletely heartworm free, and according to the American Heartworm Society, the cases are only spreading. You could be lucky forever, or you could be lucky for 10 years and then your luck runs out. The more people say "Well I've never had a problem with it" and forego prevention, the easier it becomes for it to spread...it's the same thing that happens with vaccines.
 
I think that even if you're in a relatively low incidence area, prevention is still inportant. There is no state that is conpletely heartworm free, and according to the American Heartworm Society, the cases are only spreading. You could be lucky forever, or you could be lucky for 10 years and then your luck runs out. The more people say "Well I've never had a problem with it" and forego prevention, the easier it becomes for it to spread...it's the same thing that happens with vaccines.

I feel like the spreading is just going to keep getting worse with the number of shelters/rescues up North who pull dogs from the south. A few from my dog's rescue have tested positive a year out after they've been adopted and had been on prevention.
 
I feel like the spreading is just going to keep getting worse with the number of shelters/rescues up North who pull dogs from the south. A few from my dog's rescue have tested positive a year out after they've been adopted and had been on prevention.
Yup, that's an issue as well since it takes about 6 months for the test to show positive. At least if they're consistently on prevention, even if they are hw positive, they're less likely to transmit it. That does suck to adopt a dog you think is hw negative and then be saddled with that treatment cost a year later even if youre doing everything right. I hope they warn people about that possibility.
 
Yup, that's an issue as well since it takes about 6 months for the test to show positive. At least if they're consistently on prevention, even if they are hw positive, they're less likely to transmit it. That does suck to adopt a dog you think is hw negative and then be saddled with that treatment cost a year later even if youre doing everything right. I hope they warn people about that possibility.

Not sure they were warned (I wasn't when I adopted my guy, but they knew I was a vet student so I might have been treated differently), and when I worked at a clinic associated with a shelter, I will admit it wasn't something we did and we didn't heartworm test every dog we adopted out (I feel like they should though if they haven't started). It might be because it's not super common up here in general, but with the increased number of cases, it's definitely something to be aware of.

I explained to him how it likely happened in his dog and he was totally understanding and was planning on treating the dog, so things worked out well.
 
You could be lucky forever, or you could be lucky for 10 years and then your luck runs out.

Yes, this is what I have tried to say.

Not sure they were warned (I wasn't when I adopted my guy, but they knew I was a vet student so I might have been treated differently), and when I worked at a clinic associated with a shelter, I will admit it wasn't something we did and we didn't heartworm test every dog we adopted out (I feel like they should though if they haven't started). It might be because it's not super common up here in general, but with the increased number of cases, it's definitely something to be aware of.

I explained to him how it likely happened in his dog and he was totally understanding and was planning on treating the dog, so things worked out well.

Yeah, I wasn't warned with my dog. The adoption coordinator knew I worked at a veterinary clinic (which is why I got approved despite being a college student), but the girl that went over the vet records and paperwork with me definitely did not know. She just showed me which vaccines she got, pointed out the negative 4dx from September, and said that the only veterinary "concerns" was that she has an underbite. Nothing was explained in detail... Honestly I think they feel like you'll go and get established with a regular DVM and that it's their duty to explain everything and warn you about all that.
 
I feel like the spreading is just going to keep getting worse with the number of shelters/rescues up North who pull dogs from the south. A few from my dog's rescue have tested positive a year out after they've been adopted and had been on prevention.

Yup, this is a big concern up north. People often forget that dogs travel and carry disease with them. Doesn't help that the weather has been schizophrenic as of the past few years.

Even ignoring those two factors, there are mosquito species that winter indoors. The vets I saw in western NY, where it's typically frigid for a good half of the year, were still insistent on year-round protection and annual testing. I'm glad they were, but I've definitely failed to convince some friends that there were good reasons for those recommendations and that they weren't just "in it for the money."

I live in Virginia now, and a surprising number of clients don't give any prevention at all. We've had 3 positives come through in about 6 months, though one was a rescue from New Orleans.
 
I feel like the spreading is just going to keep getting worse with the number of shelters/rescues up North who pull dogs from the south. A few from my dog's rescue have tested positive a year out after they've been adopted and had been on prevention.

A big issue with the increased spread in Colorado is just how many people with dogs are moving here that are heart worm positive. Working with the vets there, many hadn't seen any heartworm for decades until up to about five years ago. That's when our big population boom started. There's about a 100,000 net gain of people in our state every year (or more!) and that's what the CVMA is thinking is causing our massive upsurge in heartworm positive dogs. Owners that have the HW+ dogs are bringing them here, the local mosquitoes pick it up, and transmit it to the Colorado dogs.
 
And then the other side...our clinic was told by another vet that he only does slow kill method (against AHS recommendation) because those shots are poison, you know?! And that the dog we saw while the owner was on vacation might need to be treated a different way because he's a very strong positive still has microfilaria? Well, he probably only has 1-2 worms, so slow kill is best....And this vet is in Mississippi, home of the resistant heartworms.

Katrina spread a lot of hw positive dogs and i expect that will continue.
 
This conversation is really interesting because my mother has never put her dogs on hw prevention or flee/tick prevention (we do get the yard sprayed for ticks, but that wouldn't make a difference for heartworm obviously.)

She had her first dog for 14 years, and our current one for 10, and they've tested negative every time. Obviously that is what makes her super reluctant to start now, since she was fine for 25 years, she doesn't get why everyone pushes for it. I totally see where she's coming from, so it's hard to be convincing. Also apparently our first dog, the one who lived to 14 or 15 used to vomit everytime she was given heartgard, which was the original reason she took the dog off it, and never put the new one on it.

When people give me that argument, I just say that there are many people who have smoked for years without a problem, and people who've never worn a seatbelt for years without a problem, and that doesn't mean it's not a problem. They have been lucky.

Anyone can continue to rely on luck, and that is their prerogative, but in good conscience, knowing what I know, I can't NOT recommend it.

90+% of my patients are super compliant with HWP. It's culture around here that it is irresponsible bad pet ownership to not have pets on HWP/test yearly. People will balk about having an annual exam, and get pissed about not being able to get HWP without it.
 
And then the other side...our clinic was told by another vet that he only does slow kill method (against AHS recommendation) because those shots are poison, you know?! And that the dog we saw while the owner was on vacation might need to be treated a different way because he's a very strong positive still has microfilaria? Well, he probably only has 1-2 worms, so slow kill is best....And this vet is in Mississippi, home of the resistant heartworms.

Katrina spread a lot of hw positive dogs and i expect that will continue.

It kills me when I hear about hospitals in HW central areas that routinely do slow kill...
 
It kills me when I hear about hospitals in HW central areas that routinely do slow kill...
Yeah, he might have some explaining to do. We educated his client well and there was some shock on the client's part.

Even here, many places recommend slow kill.

We are treating 1 hw positive dog slow kill. Because she's in CHF. And the shelter gave her steroids before staging her disease/radiographing the thorax...sometimes I just can't
 
Yeah, he might have some explaining to do. We educated his client well and there was some shock on the client's part.

Even here, many places recommend slow kill.

We are treating 1 hw positive dog slow kill. Because she's in CHF. And the shelter gave her steroids before staging her disease/radiographing the thorax...sometimes I just can't

As a rule we always push for immiticide, but it really does out us in an ethical pickle when that is not an option. This comes up in doctor rounds every so often in our hospital, and actually recently had the president (?) of the American heartworm association person talk to us about it. We do put patients on slow kill from time to time. We have a positive case maybe once every 2 months or so... And many people will treat, so luckily it's not something that we are too affected by.

But that is very different from a clinic that has HW cases every week and by default do slow kill and actively discourage definitive treatment.
 
Needing to rent a car one month before I turn 25 sucks :arghh:

I joined the USAA (for free) because if you're a member you can rent cars without the underage fee! You should look into it, it doesn't cost anything and it has saved me a ton of money!
 
I joined the USAA (for free) because if you're a member you can rent cars without the underage fee! You should look into it, it doesn't cost anything and it has saved me a ton of money!
Isn't that for military families only? Both of my grandfathers served but neither of my parents did so I'm not sure I qualify.
 
Isn't that for military families only? Both of my grandfathers served but neither of my parents did so I'm not sure I qualify.

Anyone can join for free, but I think you have to be in military to buy insurance through them.
 
As a rule we always push for immiticide, but it really does out us in an ethical pickle when that is not an option. This comes up in doctor rounds every so often in our hospital, and actually recently had the president (?) of the American heartworm association person talk to us about it. We do put patients on slow kill from time to time. We have a positive case maybe once every 2 months or so... And many people will treat, so luckily it's not something that we are too affected by.

But that is very different from a clinic that has HW cases every week and by default do slow kill and actively discourage definitive treatment.

Worked with a clinic here in NC that does that. One doctor specifically tells her clients that if her personal dogs came up positive, she'd do slow kill. I (nicely) asked about it after a couple cases and she pretty much said she thinks the HW association guidelines are ivory tower BS. One of many reasons I don't want a job with them post-grad...
 
Worked with a clinic here in NC that does that. One doctor specifically tells her clients that if her personal dogs came up positive, she'd do slow kill. I (nicely) asked about it after a couple cases and she pretty much said she thinks the HW association guidelines are ivory tower BS. One of many reasons I don't want a job with them post-grad...

That's really sad... 🙁
 
When a person you spent half an hour with 3 days ago going over heartworm treatment calls to complain that you didn't spend enough time explaining ear cleaning and medicating for a mild ear infection. Same person that, while I was finishing up explaining everything, kept saying she needed to get to work and that she didn't have a lot of time.

But of course because I only gave her the ear instructions verbally and on paper without physically cleaning the ears in front of her (because, again, she was in a hurry...not to mention we have to charge for that), I don't know what I'm talking about.

And, because it's what they do, the receptionist set me up for failure by giving incorrect instructions when the owner called, before transferring the call to me, instead of just immediately putting a VA or a doctor on the phone. So of course the owner thinks she's being told a bunch of different things by different people.

I just.
Your dog has heartworm disease that you are refusing to do anything about.
And you're yelling at me that I care more about money than the health of your pet.
It's actually kind of funny. Considering we offered to waive multiple fees for you if you committed to bringing your dog in to start treatment.

But please, go see another vet and get those ears looked at. That's clearly the most important issue right now.
 
When a person you spent half an hour with 3 days ago going over heartworm treatment calls to complain that you didn't spend enough time explaining ear cleaning and medicating for a mild ear infection. Same person that, while I was finishing up explaining everything, kept saying she needed to get to work and that she didn't have a lot of time.

But of course because I only gave her the ear instructions verbally and on paper without physically cleaning the ears in front of her (because, again, she was in a hurry...not to mention we have to charge for that), I don't know what I'm talking about.

And, because it's what they do, the receptionist set me up for failure by giving incorrect instructions when the owner called, before transferring the call to me, instead of just immediately putting a VA or a doctor on the phone. So of course the owner thinks she's being told a bunch of different things by different people.

I just.
Your dog has heartworm disease that you are refusing to do anything about.
And you're yelling at me that I care more about money than the health of your pet.
It's actually kind of funny. Considering we offered to waive multiple fees for you if you committed to bringing your dog in to start treatment.

But please, go see another vet and get those ears looked at. That's clearly the most important issue right now.

Dog with aspiration pneumonia and sepsis.... "Can you look at his ears? Will you clean them too?"....

Me: :bored:*headdesk*
 
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