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[soupshark]

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Had. Got rid of him after 2017. I don't remember how (maybe tailgate committee?), but I met some human med people from main campus and he was terrible to them too. Can't remember specifics any more, but it sounds like they got rid of him because of the new human med school they opened through Chambana. So I got him twice (!), but I'm pretty sure @SkiOtter and their class didn't get him.

Yea Dr. Sprandel teaches most of renal now and he's king

 

[soupshark]

I do not wish to go back to those times of my life. I almost failed out. No computers allowed, and didn’t allow recording. I think people may have had to get accessability services involved to get him to record for people with hearing loss? That was well after my time. He was a native English speaker but had a strong accent. Used overhead transparencies while drawing on the board facing away. Would call people out for talking or sleeping. Would also just pick random people to ask us questions. Horrible testing procedures out to trick you…madlibs style fill in the blanks where the whole paragraph is the entire pathophys, and also once we had a true false section that was mark all that are true (or false I can’t remember which) and the mindf*ck was that you didn’t actually need to mark ANY. But who doesn’t mark anything as being true an entire 15 question t/f section. There’s a reason classes suddenly started losing 10%+ of their students every year. I’m told outside of class and in electives he was very nice, but I did not interact beyond the requirements.

Yeah that would end me. Especially the actually none of these options are correct thing.

 

[pp9]

I do not wish to go back to those times of my life. I almost failed out. No computers allowed, and didn’t allow recording. I think people may have had to get accessability services involved to get him to record for people with hearing loss? That was well after my time. He was a native English speaker but had a strong accent. Used overhead transparencies while drawing on the board facing away. Would call people out for talking or sleeping. Would also just pick random people to ask us questions. Horrible testing procedures out to trick you…madlibs style fill in the blanks where the whole paragraph is the entire pathophys, and also once we had a true false section that was mark all that are true (or false I can’t remember which) and the mindf*ck was that you didn’t actually need to mark ANY. But who doesn’t mark anything as being true an entire 15 question t/f section. There’s a reason classes suddenly started losing 10%+ of their students every year. I’m told outside of class and in electives he was very nice, but I did not interact beyond the requirements.

The intention trickery is BS. We definitely had a lot of BS questions on our exams over the years but half the time it was because our instructors couldn't write exam questions for the life of them, nor did they actually pay attention to what they did or did not cover.

Ours was just a raging a**hole who didn't teach much of anything, and then asked excessively difficult/niche questions on the exams that he absolutely didn't cover in lecture/weren't covered in readings. And then when like 10% of the class got it right by sheer luck, he would remind us that his med students all got it right because they are real doctors and all. He taught so little that I honestly couldn't tell you a single thing we covered in those lectures. Like I'd have to relearn it from scratch today. I don't remember a ton from vet school but I remember enough to be certain if we did or did not cover it appropriately and renal phys was essentially an untaught subject at UofI for at least several years. That and we did not have appropriate pharm/meds lectures for a bit. And my class did not cover the liver by accident. Good times.

 

[SkiOtter]

Yea Dr. Sprandel teaches most of renal now and he's king

I feel like we probably had Sprandy and I think Davila?

 

[mkg323]

What’s a nephron

“Well you see there’s the glomerulus, which is like a ball of spaghetti and it’s sitting in an ice cream cone, which is bowman’s capsule…” - my dad, a cardiologist, trying to explain a nephron to me in highschool. That’s all I got 🤷‍♀️

 

[cdo96]

I think Oklahoma state takes the cake on that one. @JaynaAli @cdo96

I'ma need a story time because the UofI renal phys instructor was absolutely legendary for all of the wrong reasons

I do not wish to go back to those times of my life. I almost failed out. No computers allowed, and didn’t allow recording. I think people may have had to get accessability services involved to get him to record for people with hearing loss? That was well after my time. He was a native English speaker but had a strong accent. Used overhead transparencies while drawing on the board facing away. Would call people out for talking or sleeping. Would also just pick random people to ask us questions. Horrible testing procedures out to trick you…madlibs style fill in the blanks where the whole paragraph is the entire pathophys, and also once we had a true false section that was mark all that are true (or false I can’t remember which) and the mindf*ck was that you didn’t actually need to mark ANY. But who doesn’t mark anything as being true an entire 15 question t/f section. There’s a reason classes suddenly started losing 10%+ of their students every year. I’m told outside of class and in electives he was very nice, but I did not interact beyond the requirements.

Twas me!!!! With my deafness, ADA forced him to record his lecture and wear his f-ing microphone in the year of like 2017.

The lectures were revolved, not around a normal physiology textbook, but his own handmade fill in the blank workbooks that you had to buy in addition to tuition from a printing press in the town. If you weren’t in class or weren’t keeping up, there was no point in studying. I have photos somewhere I’ll painfully look for.

 

[JaynaAli]

Twas me!!!! With my deafness, ADA forced him to record his lecture and wear his f-ing microphone in the year of like 2017.

I knew this, I just didn’t want to name names though I assumed you wouldn’t care lol.

Also I can’t look because I burned my books in celebration after I passed.

 

[cdo96]

oh I don’t have my books anymore, I think they got recycled, but I do have a photo of this. Some of his test you had to just write his exact definition exactly.

I kid y’all not, I got points taken off for not writing apples on the test.

 

[JaynaAli]

Oh also I went digging through old photos and found an instagram post that the unfilled out “study guide” which was provided for one of the phys 2 exams was 80 pages. EIGHTY pages of a STUDY GUIDE. NOT filled out. For a NONcumulative test.

 

[cdo96]

oh I don’t have my books anymore, I think they got recycled, but I do have a photo of this. Some of his test you had to just write his exact definition exactly.

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I kid y’all not, I got points taken off for not writing apples on the test.

also, as a criticalist now, I can comfortably say these are stupid and the worst possible definitions of all of these

 

[couldhavebeenme]

One small perk of 2020-era covid vet school was I'm pretty sure our renal phys final was open note. Yet at the same time... I was still so sure I failed that test and was going to fail phys and have to retake first year (did not happen).

 

[fauna]

i feel so lucky because we have “exam feedback” sheets given to us during our exams so if you feel a question was tricky/vague/poorly worded, you’re given the opportunity to leave feedback. usually 2 or 3 questions get thrown out every exam and it helps my grade a TON.

 

[battie]

We had a professor who would do the math on each exam he was in charge of to see what the lowest scoring questions were. If there was a random distribution of students of various skill level getting it wrong, he would toss it. If it was just people lower in class ranking, he would keep it.

He himself was an ass. But I thought he was exactly fair in grading the exams.

 

[cdo96]

We had a professor who would do the math on each exam he was in charge of to see what the lowest scoring questions were. If there was a random distribution of students of various skill level getting it wrong, he would toss it. If it was just people lower in class ranking, he would keep it.

fun fact that’s exactly how they judge our boards

 

[battie]

fun fact that’s exactly how they judge our boards

Honestly, it's how tests should be scored. It tells professors what they need to learn how to teach a specific thing.

 

[Doctor-S]

Honestly, it's how tests should be scored. It tells professors what they need to learn how to teach a specific thing.

This (n=1).

I voluntarily teach a single course at MD school and the subject matter of this course is considered dense, complex and challenging.

I always LOVE getting feedback from the medical students in connection with questions-and-answers on tests because it helps me provide them with timely instruction about real-life applications (e.g., differential dxs, procedures) and helps me provide them with timely information about what they "should know/must know" to pass the required Boards 'cuz I want them to SUCCEED!

 

[katiemcat]

Almost 6 months pregnant, have developed debilitating sciatica.

 

[fruitsalad]

heal katie

 

[katiemcat]

heal katie

Fruit imy please play WW soon.

I've been trying some stretches I found online and a warm (not hot!) bath they've helped a bit but its still ouchie .

 

[pp9]

Almost 6 months pregnant, have developed debilitating sciatica.

Dude I've been feeling it already. I'm at the point that if I lay on my back for even a minute or two, I can't walk for a bit when I get up because it hurts so badly.

 

[katiemcat]

Dude I've been feeling it already. I'm at the point that if I lay on my back for even a minute or two, I can't walk for a bit when I get up because it hurts so badly.

I'm sorry 🫂 It's kind of comforting someone knows how I feel though!

My mom told me getting a belly band can help too so i'm gonna try it.

 

[ali9280]

Just saw a physician on tiktok talk about how their urgent care vet bill for their dog was $850 (exams, rads, meds) for respiratory issues, but their human pts would be paying "pennies" for that. I immediately sighed. He goes on to say if a human came in, he would just rx pred and abx without imaging.... right... and that dog lives are obviously more valuable than human ones. Tell me you don't know what goes into running a practice without telling me you do. It really does suck to see another medical professional diss vet med as if vets don't already have enough on their plate with all the misinformation flooding social media, mental health crisis, the debt-to-income ratio issues, etc. Anyway, it was nice to see the vets in the comments flaming him for that post 🤣

 

[katiemcat]

Just saw a physician on tiktok talk about how their urgent care vet bill for their dog was $850 (exams, rads, meds) for respiratory issues, but their human pts would be paying "pennies" for that. I immediately sighed. He goes on to say if a human came in, he would just rx pred and abx without imaging.... right... and that dog lives are obviously more valuable than human ones. Tell me you don't know what goes into running a practice without telling me you do. It really does suck to see another medical professional diss vet med as if vets don't already have enough on their plate with all the misinformation flooding social media, mental health crisis, the debt-to-income ratio issues, etc. Anyway, it was nice to see the vets in the comments flaming him for that post 🤣

Interesting bc whenever I would go to urgent care / ER for asthma attacks they always take chest x rays and I pay at least $300 with insurance.

 

[JaynaAli]

Interesting bc whenever I would go to urgent care / ER for asthma attacks they always take chest x rays and I pay at least $300 with insurance.

He is a “direct primary care” doc that doesn’t take insurance and is available 24/7 by phone for his clients and has “negotiated better rates for his patients” on testing. You know, those patients he can send to an imaging clinic or an outpatient lab and not have to buy his actual own xray or blood machines, or pay for 1-2 staff members to restrain for said xray and blood draw, have a wide pharmacy with multiple sizes and species of drugs, etc. Kept saying that an xray is $60 for him and hours animal shouldn’t be worth more than a human. And maybe that is the actual no markup cost for one view at an imaging center of a compliant hairless patient who can follow instructions. But there’s overhead and we need multiple views especially in an animal that can’t speak and point at which lung hurts. Costs are crazy everywhere but you can’t compare a vet urgent care or any hospital with human med because they’re so different in fundamental organization.

And actually, one of my mentors once needed medical care on a cruise ship and had to pay cash for everything, and her charges for exam, labs, and everything were very similar to vet med.

 

[supershorty]

Interesting bc whenever I would go to urgent care / ER for asthma attacks they always take chest x rays and I pay at least $300 with insurance.

I'm 95% sure I got a flag on my account for being a difficult patient because the last time I was seen by a human practitioner, the office was trying to push rads on me without even having gotten a history or done anything resembling a physical exam (for an orthopedic issue) and I repeatedly politely refused and said I would not consent to any diagnostics until a history, exam, and conversation with the clinician had occurred 😊

Guess what, I didn't need the rads.

 

[supershorty]

I feel obligated to say that the clinician himself was lovely and I came out of our interactions quite impressed by the conversation with him, which says a lot because I'm jaded and cynical AF about the human healthcare system after being traumatized with getting my chronic disease diagnosed.

But I would have been out several hundreds of dollars for diagnostics that were unnecessary, if not for my knowledge and comfort advocating for myself, because of the system.

 

[battie]

he would just rx pred and abx without imaging.... right...

Big oof on that antibiotic stewardship though.

 

[battie]

@Caia and I went at it with a human med professional a hot second ago in a different part of SDN about his complaints that an ER vet refused to consider a hypokalemia of 3.1(?) was the result of CKD in his 1ish year old cat. Rather than the hypokalemia being the result of the vomiting and inappetence the cat was seen for. Spoiler alert, the renal values were normal in his 1 year old cat. But still, ER vet should have considered CKD. 🙄

I don't know guys. My 115 exam fee, 375 CBC/chem17, and 375 three view rads be ranking in the dollars. That obviously pays for my 85/hr salary. Whereas these concierge human med doctors made 300/hr easy. 🙄

 

[pp9]

@Caia and I went at it with a human med professional a hot second ago in a different part of SDN about his complaints that an ER vet refused to consider a hypokalemia of 3.1(?) was the result of CKD in his 1ish year old cat. Rather than the hypokalemia being the result of the vomiting and inappetence the cat was seen for. Spoiler alert, the renal values were normal in his 1 year old cat. But still, ER vet should have considered CKD. 🙄

I don't know guys. My 115 exam fee, 375 CBC/chem17, and 375 three view rads be ranking in the dollars. That obviously pays for my 85/hr salary. Whereas these concierge human med doctors made 300/hr easy. 🙄

I can’t actually say I’ve ever seen an actual hypokalemic CKD case in vet med. I’m sure they exist in human med and they probably do in vet med, but like…yeah. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.

I know I rag on human med a lot after my dad’s care and going through all that, but I swear they just read off the differentials and do every single test until they find a differential that sticks. History? Exam findings? Common sense or practical medicine? Forget it.

Similar story - One time I saw a radiologist’s young puppy for acute vomiting. Dog had gotten into the trash earlier in the day, but the guy was absolutely screaming at me that I needed to do a full ultrasound and CT +/- MRI to look for a diaphragmatic hernia. And this was at 3am, mind you. Oh, and he declined the X-rays I *could* do (and was willing to do, because not entirely unindicated) because they were “criminally expensive.” He also couldn’t comprehend that we don’t have those specialty imaging services overnight when meanwhile, you don’t get emergency imaging beyond rads in like any hospital except for extreme circumstances.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

All of this reminds me of a pathologist that the dog had ckd and refused to acknowledge that the dog had hypertension and kept insisting on white coat. Which like I can sympathize with because white coat is 100% an issue...but also when the patient has ckd I think it be the kidneys and not the white coat...god speed doggo, god speed

 

[battie]

All of this reminds me of a pathologist that the dog had ckd and refused to acknowledge that the dog had hypertension and kept insisting on white coat. Which like I can sympathize with because white coat is 100% an issue...but also when the patient has ckd I think it be the kidneys and not the white coat...god speed doggo, god speed

I mean. Just don't wear white coats any more. You'll cure everything 🤣

 

[pp9]

I mean. Just don't wear white coats any more. You'll cure everything 🤣

Literally never wore one after fourth year. I found them so uncomfortable and annoying!

 

[SkiOtter]

We had a professor who would do the math on each exam he was in charge of to see what the lowest scoring questions were. If there was a random distribution of students of various skill level getting it wrong, he would toss it. If it was just people lower in class ranking, he would keep it.

He himself was an ass. But I thought he was exactly fair in grading the exams.

Which one was this?

 

[SkiOtter]

Oh, and he declined the X-rays I *could* do (and was willing to do, because not entirely unindicated) because they were “criminally expensive.” He also couldn’t comprehend that we don’t have those specialty imaging services overnight when meanwhile, you don’t get emergency imaging beyond rads in like any hospital except for extreme circumstances.

Homeboy is gonna have a massive shock when he finds out the price of an mri or CT for an animal 💀

 

[SkiOtter]

Literally never wore one after fourth year. I found them so uncomfortable and annoying!

Saaaaaame.

 

[battie]

Which one was this?

GI tract segment of anatomy.

 

[supershorty]

Literally never wore one after fourth year. I found them so uncomfortable and annoying!

Never even wore one during 4th year and don't intend to start now
Wore it at my white coat ceremony and that was it.

 

[pp9]

Bumping this to the rant thread:

My younger BIL is the child that was taught no life skills. Lives at home at 27 with no driving skills, no housekeeping skills, no job skills. Get to give her a fright this winter whenever my estate planning is done. Going to give her a copy of our plans and tell her, "Please get us a copy of your plans, including what BIL would plan to do if you were to be suddenly incapacitated in any way." When she asks, "Won't he live with you?" No, MIL. BIL is not my responsibility and is not living in my house.

Maybe I'm just paranoid. But things happen that put people in bad positions all the time. It's a parent's job to prepare kids for the world. Coddling not only hurts a child while their young (not learning important life lessons), but sets them up to fail decades down the line (my BIL has no savings, including retirement and missed out on 5-10 years of compounding interest).

My little sister is the same way, she's turning 29 this year. Has been in an out of community colleges since she was 18, taking one semester of part-time classes and then deciding she didn't want to do whatever it was, then doing nothing for another semester and dropping out, then dropping out, rinse and repeat. She has held a few part time or full time jobs at times, but otherwise is still playing video games and contributing nothing else as a grown adult living on my mom's dime. And now that my older sister (36) and her three kids are back in the same house (also on my mom's dime, who is also paying for my older sister's new nursing degree somehow, and older sister refuses to work during part time semesters/at all....), it's been insane. Neither of my sisters could even do so much as mow a lawn or shovel snow if they had to (those were a few of my chores growing up, actually....they didn't do chores), let alone things like do their taxes, maintain a house physically/financially, etc. My older sister has actually not held a job in 8-9+ years? Before kids, she only worked part time helping edit a very small-time online local newspaper. And now she's divorced with nothing and no career/savings/anything of her own and everyone is having to pick up the pieces for her.

Spoiler: Only click if you enjoy my rambling about semi-relevant personal anecdotes

Sorry, this is a trigger-point for me obviously. Apparently your 30s are a time to recognize how ****ty your childhood may have been. I actually had an epiphany with my therapist recently - I don't say any of the following for pity, but I know there are a lot of people out there in the same family position/dynamic I have been in so just know you're not alone if you're reading this. Growing up, I was told a lot of things by my family (classic scapegoat child), including that I was never going to amount to anything. My therapist pointed out that I'm actually the first woman in my direct lineage to have ever functioned on my own and never been truly independent on someone financially. I went away to school 2x, lived on my own from 18, was financially independent, figured out my career path, lived in several states independently, etc. It's been a long road of correcting the mindset I was given.

But back on topic, before I cut off my mom/siblings this past year, I was also told 'You're going to have to take care of everyone if something happens to me' by my mom, because she deep down does not believe my older sister will ever work enough/hold down a job long enough to be financially independent and knows my little sister never will. To the point where she suggested I get a very large house with enough bedrooms to house everyone. And me saying 'absolutely not' was the biggest affront you could have imagined. I'd be curious if your in law's fit the narcissistic family dynamic too. Look into it and see. Honestly if it all makes sense, it makes a world of difference knowing that and learning how to approach conversations of concern with them.

 

[SkiOtter]

GI tract segment of anatomy.

Did we have the same? One starts with an L and D?

Edit: we did not have the same and I was gonna be shook if she was describing one of these wonderful people as an ass bc I always really liked them both 😂

 

[battie]

I'd be curious if your in law's fit the narcissistic family dynamic too.

They don't fit that dynamic. First two children completely functional men who lived on their own just fine and are overall great husbands and dads. Emotionally stunted to a certain extent (no regular physical affection, poor communication of emotions). They were encouraged to do things as kids and told to find out what they want to do.

Younger BIL just didn't aspire to anything and MIL didn't pressure him enough to get his life rolling. It's a situation of they would have been great two-kid parents, bit they had the third kid. So their skills as parents suffered. MIL babied the baby. FIL didn't put his foot down. So now the three of them are stuck in this situation within their home.

I think she's hoping it just works out in the end. But we're at the point where we're (SIL and I) are going to have to do the tough love. Husbands think that it isn't our problem, which is technically true. But it will be if something happens to the parents. Having played the sudden unexpected death of a relative game twice, I'm not playing it again.

 

[pp9]

It's a situation of they would have been great two-kid parents

Yeah this is another really interesting thing to think about. I feel like the generations above us never really thought about stuff like this. You either just had the same amount of kids your parents had/you were used to seeing, or you tried until you got your desired gender ratio or literally knew you couldn't afford/manage to keep having kids. Some people aren't cut out to be fully devoted to x amount of kids all the time, which is fine, unless you have that x kid and that kid and every kid after suffers. With one on the way I'm so aware and unprepared for the amount of time a child deserves that I already can't imagine trying to have more and expect that each kid would feel like they were adequately parented, lol. And then there are people that rock it out with multiple kids.

 

[battie]

Yeah this is another really interesting thing to think about. I feel like the generations above us never really thought about stuff like this. You either just had the same amount of kids your parents had/you were used to seeing, or you tried until you got your desired gender ratio or literally knew you couldn't afford/manage to keep having kids. Some people aren't cut out to be fully devoted to x amount of kids all the time, which is fine, unless you have that x kid and that kid and every kid after suffers. With one on the way I'm so aware and unprepared for the amount of time a child deserves that I already can't imagine trying to have more and expect that each kid would feel like they were adequately parented, lol. And then there are people that rock it out with multiple kids.

Or religiously kept having kids. My dad is one of 8 and his parents were both one of 13 or 14. But 7/8 of his siblings thought his parents did great.

I was oldest of 2 and my parents were super young: 21 and 24 a few weeks after I was born. Their parenting didn't suffer because there were two of us; it suffered cause they were young. They grew up with us to a certain extent. I love having younger parents cause they'll be able to physically do stuff with Toddler Bats. They'll even likely be great grandparents depending on Toddler's choices. My mom's parents are still alive (82 and 76).

But it's definitely a double edged sword. My sister's mental health crises were things they weren't prepared for when she was a preteen and teen, including financially. She did harbor a lot of resentment for their parenting (particularly my mom), but in hindsight, there was a lot of struggle we didn't know about in their marriage and their finances.

There's so many layers to it, cause then you consider what kind of parenting your parents got. My mom's parents were not ideal. Decent grandparents and great grandparents. But they were not great parents. And despite my mom's flaws, she's the one who definitely stepped up as an adult to try to fix the parenting issues. She was very supportive of everything we did and tried. She was the first person to know about Daughter-Niece.

I don't know man. Got of on a tangent here a bit 🤣 But my in-laws are 62 this year and I know plenty of people who lost parents around that age and younger. They gotta get my younger BIL set up to at least survive.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I mean. Just don't wear white coats any more. You'll cure everything 🤣

😂 dang if only I would've thought about that sooner🤦‍♀️ says the mixed vet who'd look absolutely ridiculous in a white coat seeing cows and horses 😆

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Or religiously kept having kids. My dad is one of 8 and his parents were both one of 13 or 14. But 7/8 of his siblings thought his parents did great.

I was oldest of 2 and my parents were super young: 21 and 24 a few weeks after I was born. Their parenting didn't suffer because there were two of us; it suffered cause they were young. They grew up with us to a certain extent. I love having younger parents cause they'll be able to physically do stuff with Toddler Bats. They'll even likely be great grandparents depending on Toddler's choices. My mom's parents are still alive (82 and 76).

But it's definitely a double edged sword. My sister's mental health crises were things they weren't prepared for when she was a preteen and teen, including financially. She did harbor a lot of resentment for their parenting (particularly my mom), but in hindsight, there was a lot of struggle we didn't know about in their marriage and their finances.

There's so many layers to it, cause then you consider what kind of parenting your parents got. My mom's parents were not ideal. Decent grandparents and great grandparents. But they were not great parents. And despite my mom's flaws, she's the one who definitely stepped up as an adult to try to fix the parenting issues. She was very supportive of everything we did and tried. She was the first person to know about Daughter-Niece.

I don't know man. Got of on a tangent here a bit 🤣 But my in-laws are 62 this year and I know plenty of people who lost parents around that age and younger. They gotta get my younger BIL set up to at least survive.

Jumping on the inept train is my own brother. Also my BIL but my brother is 10x worse and I just don't understand. Parents paid for both our undergrad he has his degree in computer science and business but hasn't held a job since he graduated. He's 27 so 5+ years now. Still lives at home. Bounced around from I wanna do x to y but has never actually done x or y. He was average at school and my parents always had to push him compared to me where I always knew what I wanted to do and was easily motivated. The problem is now. My parents at this point imo would be better off divorced and happier I think. Im not sure how much of that contributes to my brother's personality (which doesnt help him) but it certainly is contributing to him not getting out of the house. Both my parents want him to get a job and get out but neither of them is willing to communicate to the other to work together to get him out. My dad just turned 69 and neither is in the best of health and both have chronic conditions that are stable but the reality is when they pass were selling the house and he gets his half and good luck in life. But I seriously have 0 idea how this pans out long term but he's certainly not living with us and im not supporting him. From my view my parents always tried hard when growing up to treat us as equal as possible and afford us the same opportunities. This is a view my husband has of his own family yet both of our brothers have felt that parents favored us and both of our siblings suffer from ineptness in life. It certainly is something I don't really understand but also something I worry about if we have more than 1 child

 

[miriam1216]

Not a rant, just a 😢 because I got my first rejection. I'm ok, just a bit disappointed to not even get to the interview stage.

 

[pp9]

My coworker's wedding is tomorrow and it's about 2 hours away. I work/am on call on Saturdays, boss is letting me and tech out a few hours early so we can make it to her ceremony on time.

1) We are waiting on a high profile baby to appear, literally any day now
2) A geriatric someone decided to be drama and acutely get super sick overnight

Anyone want to place bets on whether or not I actually get to go to her wedding?