SDN Pre-Vet WW 10th Anniversary Game Thread

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Barkley13 said:
WAIT I tried to steal zenge’s ability the night he commuted. What would have happened if he hadn’t?
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Odd night? That would have been a weird one. Every other odd night (3, 7, 11, etc) he could put a spell on someone to turn them into a skeleton if they died.
 
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Truenamer said:
Actually feel like we would do great, we would just need to bicker on thread all the time and no one would suspect either of us
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Hydras don't need to bicker, you're just 2 people being 1 person.

Although weirdly, in that hydra game AM and I played, some people wolf leaned us for not arguing enough with each other.
Which I thought was very strange. Hydra chats existed. Why argue with each other on thread about how you collectively were reading someone lol
 
justafluff said:
Also!!! For everyone who’s not aware Zenge made the breadstick gun that was secretly a cowtapult destined to kill @Melchizedek

If Zenge had guessed that Mel would die that night, he would join us, but the action was submitted too fast lol
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@WildZoo @kaydubs

I’m looking through the spreadsheet and people will write this off as me being a sore player but also keep in mind I’ve been noted by multiple people to have well-balanced games.

Some of these items, the tin foil treadmill, and the banana are broken and heavily tipped the game in chaos’s favor.


Tin foil treadmill - making an item that cannot be used against against a player is eliminating a choice and essentially gives a non-killing role an extra kill that is ONLY in favor of their win con.

Cowtapult - you cannot make an item auto target a specific player, this item once again gives a non-killing role the ability to specifically kill only who they want to.

Banana phone - I shouldn’t have to explain this one. It was a mass auto convert. Basically gave chaos a multi-ability in one go that definitely affected the game progression of the skeleton growing army. Cult progression advancing at double, potentially triple its planned rate is and always will be, game breaking as the original setup was not designed with an accelerated progression in mind.
 
Melchizedek said:
@WildZoo @kd

I’m looking through the spreadsheet and people will write this off as me being a sore player but also keep in mind I’ve been noted by multiple people to have well-balanced games.

Some of these items, the tin foil treadmill, and the banana are broken and heavily tipped the game in chaos’s favor.


Tin foil treadmill - making an item that cannot be used against against a player is eliminating a choice and essentially gives a non-killing role an extra kill that is ONLY in favor of their win con.

Cowtapult - you cannot make an item auto target a specific player, this item once again gives a non-killing role the ability to specifically kill only who they want to.

Banana phone - I shouldn’t have to explain this one. It was a mass auto convert. Basically gave chaos a multi-ability in one go that definitely affected the game progression of the skeleton growing army. Cult progression advancing at double, potentially triple its planned rate is and always will be, game breaking as the original setup was not designed with an accelerated progression in mind.
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The whole point of him being able to make items was to make his wincon possible :shrug: otherwise, the only way he got skeletons past the first two was by pushing misyeets, which would of course put him more on village radar for getting voted out himself, or by correctly guessing who would be killed every fourth night. He had an extremely difficult wincon, and with the exception of the treadmill (which had a decay rate AND required that the targeted player be village and choose to join the skeleton army), his items were one time use. He did get lucky that the banana phone was used within an existing pm network, and so then caught 3 players instead of two, but it still relied on them dying before him.

There were a number of seer roles in the game that would have been able to find him out, in addition to him being vulnerable to being voted out or night killed. He did have one auto-revival prior to night 7 but would have lost all existing skeletons if he died and would have had to start from scratch. The skeletons were required to post at least once to indicate that they existed, and there were actually write up hints every time a player died and became a skeleton as well.

I don't think the game at all favored that role over any other, he used his ability well, the items all had restrictions, and with the first one he created very publicly being somewhat booby trapped, there was also cause for village to distrust additional items.
 
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Village was literally told that there was an exclusive 3p group in the game as well. That was known since Violet revealed the answer to her first ask a mod question. Zenge and the stumps did a good job of making village doubt that it was actually referring to a group.
 
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justafluff said:
I was so happy I could still play the game after being the D1 misyeet! Thank you for making me a skelly mods!
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awful my PM friend became a smelly skelly 🙁 our pm chat could have been so long
bluestoat said:
I love the banana phone virus. What an inspirational use of tinkering
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does that make me the only PM chat not to be converted?
samac said:
If mkg was still alive I guess it would have gotten her too once I used the banana phone
PMs are lifeeeee
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still salty about the fluff misyeet then my misyeet... both sketch masons... so sad

Edit: fixed autocorrect "smelly" to "skelly"
 
Doctor-S said:
Yup ... see the cat in this sandbag?

Left my cat avatar in game, and was aware @DVMDream has a cat, right?

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Yes, I do have a kitty.

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potentialsheltervet said:
I think Zenge is 3Ping here. 🤔
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This is from my role PM. May 25th.

Skeletonized remains not withstanding, I'm still super proud of my scum-reading ability this game. With the exception of some paranoia and the unfortunate choice to treadmill Vis instead of sunny, my reads were pretty darn good and I'm very happy with how I villaged.
Also, major props to @holdthemayo for holstering his vig shot after post restricting me rather than shooting me. Much appreciated.
I had so much fun this game. Tinkering, solving sunny's night results puzzle, unexpectedly getting turned into a skeleton, and then just having space to meme freely after my death. It was a good time. 10/10.
 
WildZoo said:
The whole point of him being able to make items was to make his wincon possible :shrug: otherwise, the only way he got skeletons past the first two was by pushing misyeets, which would of course put him more on village radar for getting voted out himself, or by correctly guessing who would be killed every fourth night. He had an extremely difficult wincon, and with the exception of the treadmill (which had a decay rate AND required that the targeted player be village and choose to join the skeleton army), his items were one time use. He did get lucky that the banana phone was used within an existing pm network, and so then caught 3 players instead of two, but it still relied on them dying before him.

There were a number of seer roles in the game that would have been able to find him out, in addition to him being vulnerable to being voted out or night killed. He did have one auto-revival prior to night 7 but would have lost all existing skeletons if he died and would have had to start from scratch. The skeletons were required to post at least once to indicate that they existed, and there were actually right up hints every time a player died and became a skeleton as well.

I don't think the game at all favored that role over any other, he used his ability well, the items all had restrictions, and with the first one he created very publicly being somewhat booby trapped, there was also cause for village to distrust additional items.
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I agree. The roster had 30 players and our goal was to have greater numbers than the living. All the 3ps and wolves etc, couldn't have joined us. We could only grow through villager misyeets OR if we guessed right every other odd night. We couldn't kill and only got 1 collective vote.
Without the items, the game would have dragged. It was already more than 2 weeks long. All people had to do was seer/kill Zenge and they didn't, so we won. Even the car he was using wasn't working half the time and he only used it twice. Plus the RNG made sure that items weren't catered to one player specifically. We were 3 stumps for a loooong time until PSV and alley died, and joined but Zenge didn;t kill them. And most NK couldn't join, only those that got specific items.
Aannd Village had a tinkerer too
 
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