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Santygrass said:
Do you?

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Like, no doubt there at all?
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See here:
Aprilthearab said:
Well if he's a wolf, he would have known who was going to be targeted for the night kill, and I just don't see a wolf planning out this whole elaborate thing where he fruitless fruit vendors the same person that the wolves plan on killing and then comes to announce the sketchy visit on thread just in case someone tracked him and then waits all day to give the real reveal all just for... potential mild credit from a few people and possible sus from others? So I'm just more likely to believe he's village telling the truth
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No I don't believe this undoubtedly but when in doubt I'm going to go with the option that makes most sense by chance and strategy

Usually when you have to pick between a relatively simple explanation and a very complex confusing explanation that doesn't have a clear motivation, the simple answer is the correct one
 
Aprilthearab said:
I've never seen something quite like it here but it doesn't surprise me because mods make up roles all the time
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Ok, I've typically used weak roles like this if there are going to be other roles in the game that can observe night actions in some fashion, so that's why my mind goes that direction.
 
Animal Midwife said:
I don't follow how this reveal clears him. Clem's (re?)re-reversal is interesting though. I'd like to hear where Nate is at gamewise.
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I think clear is a very strong word but his explanation makes a bit more sense as a villager than a wolf. Not locked or safe from the POE though
 
*Rips off Banana Suit*


I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
 
Empire said:
interesting. dunno, i think judgment on whether a role fits in site meta is valuable (i was nearly caught in a game elsewhere because my fakeclaim was a role no one had ever heard of) but bind setup spec can lose games


i think the claim by itself is fine but i'd like to hear from nate about what his current thoughts on the game are
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The mods around here (particularly the mods of this game) do like to make up their own roles, so it’s not impossible. Which is why my gut reaction was to believe the claim
 
Santygrass said:
*Rips off Banana Suit*


I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
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lol ahahaha okay this game is funny
 
Aprilthearab said:
N1: "Wow, I targeted the night kill as a fruit vendor, funny coincidence!" okay, possible
N2: "Can you believe it? I targeted the night kill as a fruit vendor two nights in a row!" bullshirt
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And so I don't see why the wolves would be motivated to use this excuse at all if they can only use it realistically for one night without being called out big time
 
I have to check the equity there , but Nate claim was specifically a fruit vendor'nt maybe because lf what April received ? Idk it smells bad and I want to kill one of them for sure. Want to reread their interactions for sure
 
Aprilthearab said:
And so I don't see why the wolves would be motivated to use this excuse at all if they can only use it realistically for one night without being called out big time
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Yeah but then you just… don’t use the excuse anymore.

But contemplating this, he is claiming that the player would be notified so I guess that is a bit tougher. Hmm
 
Santygrass said:
I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
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Oh, you did that? Didn't make the connection, tbh thought it might be somehow related to Samac's ability but Zenge wouldn't answer my questions about it. I'm not used to playing with fruit vendors at all so brain didn't make the connection
 
Santygrass said:
*Rips off Banana Suit*


I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
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Wait how the **** did I manage to hit the fruit vendor with a banana suit??
I'm mildly psychic in useless ways, I swear
 
Santygrass said:
*Rips off Banana Suit*


I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
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Well now I'm mad I didn't get to hand out fruit.
 
Santygrass said:
*Rips off Banana Suit*


I am the Fruit Vendor . April should know that there is one, or at least, waver on it cuz I acted on them last night. So I am kinda like, ¿?¿?¿?
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What made you choose April?
 
Santygrass said:
I have to check the equity there , but Nate claim was specifically a fruit vendor'nt maybe because lf what April received ? Idk it smells bad and I want to kill one of them for sure. Want to reread their interactions for sure
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This doesn't make sense, but honestly in a towny way. It says in the rules that wolves were given fake roles to claim, so even in your hypothetical April/me team I wouldn't have to make something up based on her getting fruit.
 
Animal Midwife said:
What made you choose April?
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Villa read that I thought wouldnt die so it was pretty okay with having a hint of my role there. Apparently the trust was deserved smh. Or Skill Issue smh.

But yeah like, not seeing that samac had high nk odds its kinda weird ?
 
NateTheLesser said:
And now, the underwhelming revelation!

My claim this morning was actually my role. I'm a village tourist, and each night I can visit someone (like a fruit vendor minus the fruit). My target is told that they were visited. That's it!

Why did I pick Samac?
There's not a whole lot of utility with a role like this, but one thing I can do is visit someone I'm not totally sure about and see what they do with the fact they were visited, if anything. And Samac fit that bill, strong voice that was in my high nulls verging on a townread. And I didn't think they were likely to die, so lol me on that part.

Why claim?
When I saw the flip my first thought was that I wasted my visit. Second thought was that it could potentially be bad depending on what other roles are in the game. I was a wagon for most of yesterday so it wouldn't be that surprising for me to be the target of a tracker or watcher if there is one, and if they saw me visit Samac then they would naturally assume that they saw the kill. And this would be bad! Because if they "out" me and I'm killed today, then they're likely killed in the night and we're down two villagers, the other of whom has a much more useful role than mine. So claiming prevents that hypothetical worst case scenario. To be clear, if you have a role that confirms what I'm saying, don't claim.

AMA
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>visit someone
>player is told they were visited

This is a fruit vendor by a different name lol, the distinction is just flavor
 
NateTheLesser said:
This doesn't make sense, but honestly in a towny way. It says in the rules that wolves were given fake roles to claim, so even in your hypothetical April/me team I wouldn't have to make something up based on her getting fruit.
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These rules were copypasted from a different game. Unclear if wolves have cover roles here.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Fruit vendors don't necessarily have to be village. Sorry banana man.
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I think he was trying to make a role claim gotcha moment because nate was also claiming something similar to fruit vendor. But to me they sound like two different roles that are perfectly plausible to exist in the game together so it's NAI to me
 
Clem J said:
>visit someone
>player is told they were visited

This is a fruit vendor by a different name lol, the distinction is just flavor
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This was a reply to AM, im too lazy to fix it so you get this followup instead
 
Aprilthearab said:
I think he was trying to make a role claim gotcha moment because nate was also claiming something similar to fruit vendor. But to me they sound like two different roles that are perfectly plausible to exist in the game together so it's NAI to me
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they are functionally the same role but could exist as duplicates if the mod feels like messing with people to subvert expectations. no comment from me on whether or not i think that is likely
 
Aprilthearab said:
I think he was trying to make a role claim gotcha moment because nate was also claiming something similar to fruit vendor. But to me they sound like two different roles that are perfectly plausible to exist in the game together so it's NAI to me
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They're the same role flavored differently lol

Its like having a vig and a "hammer of God that allows you to kill one player a night," it serves the same function

Anyways its definitely not impossible for them to both be town but combined with nate claiming a samac visit im gonna say just nuke nate lol
 
Aprilthearab said:
I think he was trying to make a role claim gotcha moment because nate was also claiming something similar to fruit vendor. But to me they sound like two different roles that are perfectly plausible to exist in the game together so it's NAI to me
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Werent you talking about how fruit vendor was kinds rare in the games ? And its okay to be there two kinda samesies and you dont question it much?

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Clem J said:
Ok, without using flavor explain the functional difference
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Son, I ran a game just with these roles being the entire meat of the game.

A visitor is only visible to trackers/watchers. A fruit vendor is loud to their target as well.
 
i'm glad i didn't start actually trying to reread santy before this because it would have been a huge waste of time
 
Santygrass said:
Werent you talking about how fruit vendor was kinds rare in the games ? And its okay to be there two kinda samesies and you dont question it much?

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Yeah, it's uncommon over here but if mods are gonna use it I don't think it's a big deal that they use two variations twice in the game. Also not uncommon for there to be two similar/identical roles given to the same aff. The mods love doing that just to stop people from assuming that roles are AI, and in the case of two roles to the same affiliation, that two identical roles need to be balanced across wolves/village. Mods love to jazz things up to keep people from role association solving
 
Animal Midwife said:
Son, I ran a game just with these roles being the entire meat of the game.

A visitor is only visible to trackers/watchers. A fruit vendor is loud to their target as well.
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He claims his target is informed they were visited

Next
 
Empire said:
i'm glad i didn't start actually trying to reread santy before this because it would have been a huge waste of time
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🤰

If anyone have any unpaired read between Nate/April hit me up with those, otherwise if Nate flips W I'm kinda down to turbomurderize April too
 
Specially if the calim is fake, prob the prepared for it and a partner was in thread for the timing of Nate's reveal
 
Aprilthearab said:
I think he was trying to make a role claim gotcha moment because nate was also claiming something similar to fruit vendor. But to me they sound like two different roles that are perfectly plausible to exist in the game together so it's NAI to me
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If not april psv could also fit since they also gave a like to this wowee
 
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