Werewolf in the Garden of Good & Evil - Game Thread

[Melchizedek]

So given that we have to wrap things up safely and succinctly, and given my role and the fact I *have* to submit an action nightly... It would be in the best interest of the village to lynch me. I am a delayed ambusher that is a villager and doesn't get to choose my targets. I have to pick a villager to watch each night and I trap one person who visits them, then they die two cycles later. It is a dangerous mechanic to use, as I have no choice in who the victim is and per my read of the rules must submit my action nightly... I think that makes me too dangerous to live, and too likely to obfuscate kills by making double kill nights happen which will muddy results. As much as I hate to do this right after coming back, I can see how my role will likely play out and it will not be in favor of the village

Unlynch AM, lynch MJ

If this was coming from anyone BUT you...


Lynch Genny

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[Navilly]

Or his role is to kill someone on his lynch

Sketch points for coopah in this one. While villagers sometimes think like this, wolves think like this much more often. Most of the time when I am village, I don’t care much about my life so long as it benefits the greater good.

 

[PippyPony]

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No copying and pasting of role PMs, paraphrase only

Clarification on the action submission requirement that was my bad: players can absolutely choose not to use an action, but it needs to be a strategic choice and not just a "whoops I peaced out for 24 hours and didn't contingency."

Submit No Action if you are opting to not use a role.

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[Navilly]

Lynch Sporty

Why?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Oho! Where does your garden grow?!

Stagg (2) - AM, dolphino
Lawpy (1) - Mixalot
Mixalot (2) - Lawpy, genny
AM (2) - FTF, Moosy
Navs (1) - Skilary
Mizzy (1) - Barky
FTF (1) - mizzy
acan (1) - mutts
Skilary (1) - Coops
MJ (1) - MJ
Sporty (1) - Stagg
genny (1) - Mel


14/20 voting
Lynch will close at 10pm Eastern (~2.5 hrs)

 

[Animal Midwife]

If this was coming from anyone BUT you...


Lynch Genny

Why genny?

 

[Stagg737]

Why?

Splash, splash, splash

 

[Coopah]

What's the rule for PMing?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

and we're back
had a busy day at the office

 

[Animal Midwife]

What's the rule for PMing?

PMing is allowed at all times in the pairs assigned below, provided both players are alive.

 

[PippyPony]

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What's the rule for PMing?

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As a general rule, you may freely PM within your assigned pairs only. Please add mods to your conversation.
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[Ms Procrastinator]

I am not sure if the statistics play out for this, I disagree with this logic. But how much control do you have there? And you say you get to pick a villager each night. And if that wasn’t a word slip up, you pretty much just said you have an affiliation seer mechanic built into your role.

Did rules say something about no copy and pasting of roles?

I think it was a word slip up. Maybe he has to choose a person instead of a villager. If not he would have to know a good amount of villagers in order to choose.

 

[Lawpy]

I think it was a word slip up. Maybe he has to choose a person instead of a villager. If not he would have to know a good amount of villagers in order to choose.

Thoughts so far?

 

[Navilly]

I think it was a word slip up. Maybe he has to choose a person instead of a villager. If not he would have to know a good amount of villagers in order to choose.

Or the role doesn’t function if he doesn’t pick a villager. Which would be a GREAT villager role, but a horrible one to put on the thread.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Miranda Senft I'm still waiting.

 

[Navilly]

Also MJ, you should not respond to the above logic flow, just nod, think about the wording of your pm, and use appropriately.

 

[Barkley13]

I think it was a word slip up. Maybe he has to choose a person instead of a villager. If not he would have to know a good amount of villagers in order to choose.

Any thoughts on the rest of the thread?

 

[genny]

Why?

I like to vote for people I haven't played with in a while. It's like giving them a hug, but a little more intense.

Pot meet kettle?

You are wrong, sir. No one asked me for my reasoning until you did. And I was commenting on Flush's reticence to give reasoning.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Or the role doesn’t function if he doesn’t pick a villager. Which would be a GREAT villager role, but a horrible one to put on the thread.

This is another reason why I think its a person and not just villagers. It would be too easy to find out who's village and who's a wolf, especially since there are no third parties. I guess he could possibly be restricted from saying who was wolf or village to make things interesting . I don't know how I feel about him disclosing his role on thread. I for one do not feel like hoping on his lynch.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I never did?

Edit: reread, I meant I could go for a Genny vote, not a you vote.

Ah sorry. Misuse understanding on my part.

 

[genny]

Also MJ, you should not respond to the above logic flow, just nod, think about the wording of your pm, and use appropriately.

OMG could you be any bossier?

 

[JustPaws]

but that would get into wifom territory?

It might actually force wolves to kill sketchier people, leaving more cleared villagers for end game, now that it's out there

 

[Navilly]

OMG could you be any bossier?

That’s the one you comment on? The one where it only benefits wolves if he goes any further with his explanation? I am bossy in several other posts leading up to that.

*********lynch genny*********

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

@Miranda Senft I'm still waiting.

sorry forgot to hit send.
Is w/w wolf/wolf? vs v for village? Actually asking for clarification

 

[Animal Midwife]

sorry forgot to hit send.
Is w/w wolf/wolf? vs v for village? Actually asking for clarification

Yes.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Yes.

I'm not willing to make that broad of a statement. I'm viewing them as sketch and I'm gonna go with my gut when/if I revote.

 

[Barkley13]

It's not random, of the people that haven't posted feels lead me to choose her

Do you have any feels for anyone else that hasn’t posted?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

and we're back
had a busy day at the office

posted this and forgot to read thread
whoops

 

[JustPaws]

@Navilly what are your thoughts on Miz?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Or they just want to see how you respond to a slight nudge.

still a bad line of questioning
ultimately it was empty and if they believe that it wasn't
it's a bad look

 

[Navilly]

@Navilly what are your thoughts on Miz?

That she is having a really ****ty day and I am avoiding doing any analysis on her until tomorrow when her life isn’t imploding before her.

 

[muttmanager]

Do you have any feels for anyone else that hasn’t posted?

I have feels for everyone

 

[Mad Jack]

But your role may be our only vigilante type role. I agree with what AM said, with good strategy you could actually kill wolves

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No copying and pasting of role PMs, paraphrase only

Clarification on the action submission requirement that was my bad: players can absolutely choose not to use an action, but it needs to be a strategic choice and not just a "whoops I peaced out for 24 hours and didn't contingency."

Submit No Action if you are opting to not use a role.

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Well that changes everything lol

 

[genny]

That’s the one you comment on? The one where it only benefits wolves if he goes any further with his explanation? I am bossy in several other posts leading up to that.

*********lynch genny*********

Yes, but in that one, you're bossy AND you assume MJ is a complete idiot.

 

[Navilly]

Yes, but in that one, you're bossy AND you assume MJ is a complete idiot.

How?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not willing to make that broad of a statement. I'm viewing them as sketch and I'm gonna go with my gut when/if I revote.

Do you still have plans to revote?

 

[genny]

Do you have any feels for anyone else that hasn’t posted?

I'm fighting the urge to switch my vote to you because you've been village every game and I've always been wrong when I want to lynch you. But you're sitting on a grudge vote and asking questions of others while not putting forth reads of your own.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Do you still have plans to revote?

I will do what I think is right.

 

[JustPaws]

@MSUcvmHOPE I see that you were liking posts on the thread today, are you around? Any thoughts?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I will do what I think is right.

You need to be less vague on what that is because I'm this close to starting a wagon on you.

 

[genny]

How?

The fact that you even said anything. Maybe it's just because you haven't played with MJ, but this isn't his first rodeo.

 

[Coopah]

Sketch points for coopah in this one. While villagers sometimes think like this, wolves think like this much more often. Most of the time when I am village, I don’t care much about my life so long as it benefits the greater good.

I do think like this, it doesn't turn off when I am village. I also don't care if I die, which is my typical village play. I couldn't see how this role could be anything but a detriment for the village before the clarification of submitting no action. Because think about it if someone was protecting a night kill target and a wolf goes there to kill a target they could randomly catch the protector. There is almost no control. Not very useful imo. But since there is a no action option the point is moot.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

You need to be less vague on what that is because I'm this close to starting a wagon on you.

It's literally Day 1. You haven't justified your Stagg vote. I'm not being vague, there's not a lot of information yet.

 

[Coopah]

So given that we have to wrap things up safely and succinctly, and given my role and the fact I *have* to submit an action nightly... It would be in the best interest of the village to lynch me. I am a delayed ambusher that is a villager and doesn't get to choose my targets. I have to pick a villager to watch each night and I trap one person who visits them, then they die two cycles later. It is a dangerous mechanic to use, as I have no choice in who the victim is and per my read of the rules must submit my action nightly... I think that makes me too dangerous to live, and too likely to obfuscate kills by making double kill nights happen which will muddy results. As much as I hate to do this right after coming back, I can see how my role will likely play out and it will not be in favor of the village

Unlynch AM, lynch MJ

Actually screw this. You could also be a wolf that can act on a "villager" each night to get an extra kill and doing this preemptively argues people to not vote for you.

Unlynch Skim lynch MJ

 

[JustPaws]

Feeling a skim Lynch based on feels from her two posts or a mutts Lynch based on the acanth vote which seems very odd of the no posters

 

[Animal Midwife]

It's literally Day 1. You haven't justified your Stagg vote. I'm not being vague, there's not a lot of information yet.

Okay, let's move to a more justified vote then to level the field.

Unlynch Stagg
Lynch MOOSE

You're either sitting on a joke vote or you have solid reasons to believe I'm a wolf. Choose.

 

[Barkley13]

I'm fighting the urge to switch my vote to you because you've been village every game and I've always been wrong when I want to lynch you. But you're sitting on a grudge vote and asking questions of others while not putting forth reads of your own.

Well at this point I’m also sitting on it because I think she’s sketchy. I think mutts is sketchy too

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

@MSUcvmHOPE I see that you were liking posts on the thread today, are you around? Any thoughts?

Yup it was my long day at work was trying to scan through when I had a couple seconds here and there. Getting thoughts together and will post momentarily.

 

[JustPaws]

Actually screw this. You could also be a wolf that can act on a "villager" each night to get an extra kill and doing this preemptively argues people to not vote for you.

Unlynch Skim lynch MJ

I did have this thought as well

 

[Navilly]

It's literally Day 1. You haven't justified your Stagg vote. I'm not being vague, there's not a lot of information yet.

This mentality sucks. “It’s day 1, so who cares how we play?” No, step up, put on your big boy/girl pants and start doing some sleuthing, some pressuring, some mud slinging, pig wrestling, what have you. Don’t resign yourself to its day1 so it doesn’t matter.