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deepsnow said:
scottyT - I wouldn't give up hope yet. I'm kind of in the same boat; after a lifetime of living CO, I spent last year doing a graduate program in Illinois and now I'm working in Georgia to be with my girlfriend. I have kept my CO driver's license, car registration and voted in CO this entire time, but now I'm worried about the "physical presence" part of the domicile requirement.

Reading their 2007 tuition requirements, though, it looks to me that establishing "physical presence" doesn't necessarily mean that your feet have to be on CO soil for 12 months. It seems that they evaluate each student on a case-by-case basis, and while there are lots of important guidelines for establishing "physical presence" it's clear that they don't have an absolute formula for doing so. You just need to make a series of pursuasive arguments on your behalf.

The most important factor, it seems, is filing CO state tax returns. It hurts you that you haven't filed a CO return for a couple years, and likewise it also hurts that I assume you did file CA returns. However, their tuition forms states that you do have the right to back file CO returns. Additionally, it states that for back filed returns you "will receive a credit for taxes withheld by or paid to another state." So it sounds like it might not cost you much (if anything) to back file a couple CO returns, and I think that might be worth a shot.

The bottom line is that while it is difficult to establish CO residency, it is also difficult for them to take it away. Simply living and working in another state for a relatively short period of time does not necessarily demonstrate your intent to permanently adopt residency elsewhere.

Or perhaps that's just wishful thinking on my part...
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Seems like it would be worth a shot. . .
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I spoke with the registrar's office a couple days ago and they said there is no set formula for determining residency. They were pretty fixated on whether your family/parents currently live in CO and whether you graduated from a CO high school. They were super friendly and helpful, and very strongly recommended filing a CO tax return for this year regardless of where you are right now.

CU has no vested interest in denying in-state tuition to students, since the state subsidizes the difference of the out-of-state cost. They just need to make a compelling case as to whether a student has enough ties to the state (and likewise no ties to another state) that they can be reasonably certain that the state is investing in a future CO physician and giving a benefit to a CO taxpayer.

If all else fails, you could always just put one of those "Native" stickers on your car and send in a picture...
 
I'd like to comment on this subject too...

I am a Georgia resident, and have been since I was born, but I recently moved to Colorado (MS @ CSU) for a few years. During this time, I applied to my in-state schools, Mercer University and the Medical College of Georgia, and I experienced a lot of feedback on my "in-state" residency to these schools. For Mercer, the admissions office basically told me that I had no chance of being considered for admissions (I did interview and they only interview Georgia Residents) due to the fact that I had been out of the state for such a long period of time (graduate school). At MCG, I was interviewed and wait-listed while I was a resident of Georgia, but located in Colorado.

Recently, I moved back to Georgia and applied EDP to MCG and was accepted. After my acceptance, I ran into my admission's committee member in hospital and I was told that "moving back to Georgia" was the best thing that I did for my application.

So, while I was always considered a Georgia resident (I had a judge sign on this as well), I was still experiencing prejudice based not he fact that I had been away from the state, in graduate school, for the past few years.

Residency is a bitch.
 
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fahimaz7 said:
I'd like to comment on this subject too...

I am a Georgia resident, and have been since I was born, but I recently moved to Colorado (MS @ CSU) for a few years. During this time, I applied to my in-state schools, Mercer University and the Medical College of Georgia, and I experienced a lot of feedback on my "in-state" residency to these schools. For Mercer, the admissions office basically told me that I had no chance of being considered for admissions (I did interview and they only interview Georgia Residents) due to the fact that I had been out of the state for such a long period of time (graduate school). At MCG, I was interviewed and wait-listed while I was a resident of Georgia, but located in Colorado.

Recently, I moved back to Georgia and applied EDP to MCG and was accepted. After my acceptance, I ran into my admission's committee member in hospital and I was told that "moving back to Georgia" was the best thing that I did for my application.

So, while I was always considered a Georgia resident (I had a judge sign on this as well), I was still experiencing prejudice based not he fact that I had been away from the state, in graduate school, for the past few years.

Residency is a bitch.
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And this is too bad, really. It discourages people from moving around and getting the best experiences possible. I am not having these issues because I haven't left the state (born and raised, +degrees from two CO universities). Although I am happy with my education (and I love this state and plan to live here in the future), I think there is something to be said about living somewhere else, somewhere unfamiliar, and I hope to be able to get this experience during residency.

They should consider this, and allow for students to establish intent to return. This will never happen, because it is all about the money, but it would be cool if it did.
 
I just got an interview invite today... I didn't even know they were still doing that at this point!
 
Thought I'd post on this thread simply to see if it would get moved to the School Specific Discussions sub-forum
 
interviewed in november. have heard nothing.
 
Do you think they will be sending out acceptances in Feb? It seems like in previous years if you did not hear by Jan then you had to wait until March. Also, has anybody heard what day in March we will be told?
 
Kona07 said:
Do you think they will be sending out acceptances in Feb? It seems like in previous years if you did not hear by Jan then you had to wait until March. Also, has anybody heard what day in March we will be told?
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The deadline for them to give you accepted/rejected/waitlist is March 31st.

As to whether they are sending out acceptances, it depends on how many people they have accepted already.
 
YAY!!!! First acceptance!!! Interviewed 2/9, accepted 2/13!!!!!! Talk about quick turn-around.
 
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Ahhhh I still haven't heard back. Interviewed in late October. The wait is driving me crazy!!:(
 
can anyone remember when in march they said we would hear by??
 
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furby said:
can anyone remember when in march they said we would hear by??
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Last year they heard the majority of the interviewee's heard on Friday March 14th. Unless you interview in late February or early March, I would expect that you would hear in mid-march some time.
 
MeowMix said:
just wait until you get the first tuition bill. Then the tears will really flow.:D

Congratulations!
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Thanks!

On that note, am curious about persons who have continued some type of paid employment while in med school, even first few years. I've read anecdotally its possible and would love to hear of this working!
I'd read about work study and the like which seems to indicate it's possible.

(pls no flames; I'm truly interested in experiences; particularly as Colorado students stressed the ability to continue with things important to them while in med school, at least M1 & M2 - I'd skip the skiing in order to do this).

The work in question would be 100% flexible regarding which hours & which days are worked, and the work could be done from home/school/office/etc, & hourly rate is enough to pay mtg + basic living expenses w/part time work. thanks!
 
does anyone know if cu offers many scholarships to accepted students? that would be really nice...
 
bballluvr34 said:
does anyone know if cu offers many scholarships to accepted students? that would be really nice...
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Not as many as last year! On a serious note, with the economy in the tank, endowments have tanking a hit and from what I have heard, schools are having to cut down on the amount of financial aid that they give to their students.

:(

Maybe CO has a better endowment?

Buff, Kirsten got into DPT at MCG!
 
bballluvr34 said:
does anyone know if cu offers many scholarships to accepted students? that would be really nice...
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I'm not sure, but from what I heard in the financial aid meeting, it sure didn't seem like it. I'm sure there is some available, but probably don't count on it.

fahimaz7 said:
Not as many as last year! On a serious note, with the economy in the tank, endowments have tanking a hit and from what I have heard, schools are having to cut down on the amount of financial aid that they give to their students.

:(

Maybe CO has a better endowment?

Buff, Kirsten got into DPT at MCG!
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That's fantastic, Congrats to her!
 
i just saw a facebook group for uchsc class of 2013....
 
I called the admin office and spoke with someone today (not Sean). She said that they did interviews today and had two more interview sessions scheduled. After that, interviews are done.

As far as acceptances go, she would only say that they would have them out by the end of March. Nothing more specific than that, just a matter of when the adcoms get everything together.

I wish I had more info to share. Been waiting since November and am slowly going out of my mind...
 
thanks for the info. i too interviewed in november. waiting is rough...
 
furby said:
thanks for the info. i too interviewed in november. waiting is rough...
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Yeah, it's getting bad. Really hope we all hear earlier in March rather than later.
 
Interviewed in December, haven't heard anything back...the wait is ridiculous....AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
 
I wonder how many acceptances they have sent out so far? any ideas?
 
NepKancha said:
I wonder how many acceptances they have sent out so far? any ideas?
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On their website it says that in October around 25 acceptances are issued with a similar number each month. If this is the case (25*5), they have already issued around 125 acceptances with only around 32 left to give out. I'm not sure if this is accurate but it definitely makes sense because if you look back at last years thread, almost everyone who had to wait until March was waitlisted or rejected. Im just hoping for top 1/3 at this point. Good luck to everyone!
 
cast128 said:
On their website it says that in October around 25 acceptances are issued with a similar number each month. If this is the case (25*5), they have already issued around 125 acceptances with only around 32 left to give out. I'm not sure if this is accurate but it definitely makes sense because if you look back at last years thread, almost everyone who had to wait until March was waitlisted or rejected. Im just hoping for top 1/3 at this point. Good luck to everyone!
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I know some people that got acceptances in March last year, so I haven't lost my hope yet. But they say they send out about 260 acceptances, and matriculate 156. Does that 260 include all waitlisted folks??
 
cast128 said:
On their website it says that in October around 25 acceptances are issued with a similar number each month. If this is the case (25*5), they have already issued around 125 acceptances with only around 32 left to give out. I'm not sure if this is accurate but it definitely makes sense because if you look back at last years thread, almost everyone who had to wait until March was waitlisted or rejected. Im just hoping for top 1/3 at this point. Good luck to everyone!
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So why does CU say that they give out most of their acceptances in March? :confused:
 
MedYEP said:
So why does CU say that they give out most of their acceptances in March? :confused:
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I agree with you here. I feel that they have to compare ALL the people in one table before they can send out acceptances, and they send out early acceptance for the applicants that they don't have any problem saying they would be accepted at the end no matter what...
 
MedYEP said:
So why does CU say that they give out most of their acceptances in March? :confused:
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In this case CU is right. They send out about 25 acceptance letters every month from October thru March. So right now they have sent out about 125 acceptances.

So if you do the math there will 31 more acceptance letters to be sent out in March. (Which will most probably not include us but those who were interviewed in February)

But, as you know CU sent out 275 acceptance letters last year. Mainly because some people eventually decide on going to school somewhere else.

So if we go by last year's numbers, there will be an additional 150 acceptance letters which will be sent in March and after that. The only thing that could hurt you at this point is the bad economy and the possibility that not too many people may decide to go to out of state schools.

Still I believe there will be at least 125 more acceptance letters to be sent. So relax and just wait.
 
Anyone else who interviewed today receive a decision? By the time I got home I had an acceptance e-mail in my in-box!!!! Good luck to everyone!
 
987 said:
Anyone else who interviewed today receive a decision? By the time I got home I had an acceptance e-mail in my in-box!!!! Good luck to everyone!
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Holy ****, that's the fastest response I've ever heard! Congrats!
 
987 said:
Anyone else who interviewed today receive a decision? By the time I got home I had an acceptance e-mail in my in-box!!!! Good luck to everyone!
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super-star!
 
987 said:
Anyone else who interviewed today receive a decision? By the time I got home I had an acceptance e-mail in my in-box!!!! Good luck to everyone!
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That is awesome! Congrats.
 
So in mid to late march when we are supposed to hear where we stand, do they also send out a bunch of actual acceptances?? I mean, being on the top 1/3 of the list would be awesome, but does me no good if they dont give me a definite yes or no answer before May....at which time I must give a yes or no answer to other schools at which I am accepted.
 
rockydoc said:
So in mid to late march when we are supposed to hear where we stand, do they also send out a bunch of actual acceptances?? I mean, being on the top 1/3 of the list would be awesome, but does me no good if they dont give me a definite yes or no answer before May....at which time I must give a yes or no answer to other schools at which I am accepted.
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Unfortunately, most decisions given in mid-March will be wait-lists or rejections. Very few acceptances are given out and if you interviewed a few months ago and still haven't heard it will most likely be a waitlist or a rejection. I am in the same boat as you and in regards to May, that is just how the game is played. If I am on a waitlist I will just choose the next best school and wait it out, nothing much else you can do. Good luck
 
cast128 said:
Unfortunately, most decisions given in mid-March will be wait-lists or rejections. Very few acceptances are given out and if you interviewed a few months ago and still haven't heard it will most likely be a waitlist or a rejection. I am in the same boat as you and in regards to May, that is just how the game is played. If I am on a waitlist I will just choose the next best school and wait it out, nothing much else you can do. Good luck
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where did you hear this?

sadly I am on my third cycle applying to CU and interviewed all three years. Each march plenty of people are accepted, everyone who makes the waitlist is told and everyone else is rejected. Look at threads on SDN from past years you will see in a two day span around March 15th plenty of people reporting acceptances
 
I'm am no longer a Colorado resident. It seems that despite my conviction that Colorado is my true home, the registrar's office disagrees. Apparently 1.5 years of working in California outweighs 25 years of Colorado residency and over a decade of Colorado taxes (or over a 100 years if you count my family). This is unfortunate. I'm a little pissed off at the whole state right now and feel bitter towards CU. By applying such a generic and narrowly defined formula to determine residency, I feel that the registrar's office is being both disingenuous and not acting in the spirit of the legislation. If they are truly interested in educating physicians to stay in Colorado, they need to act with better discretion regarding who can be considered a resident. I will most likely wind up there in the end regardless; however, it would be nice to be close to my family during med school.

I have been very successful this cycle so I will try not to dwell on this for too long. This decision is probably for the best as I've been accepted to numerous other schools with wider notoriety at which I will be happy. I simply can't justify $300,000 in loans for the privilege of being educated in my home state. I will be withdrawing my position from UCHSC MD class of '13 after I get a financial aid offer to chuckle at. Hopefully the school can fill it with someone who will both enrich the class and stay in Colorado.
 
scottyT said:
I'm am no longer a Colorado resident. It seems that despite my conviction that Colorado is my true home, the registrar's office disagrees. Apparently 1.5 years of working in California outweighs 25 years of Colorado residency and over a decade of Colorado taxes (or over a 100 years if you count my family). This is unfortunate. I'm a little pissed off at the whole state right now and feel bitter towards CU. By applying such a generic and narrowly defined formula to determine residency, I feel that the registrar's office is being both disingenuous and not acting in the spirit of the legislation. If they are truly interested in educating physicians to stay in Colorado, they need to act with better discretion regarding who can be considered a resident. I will most likely wind up there in the end regardless; however, it would be nice to be close to my family during med school.

I have been very successful this cycle so I will try not to dwell on this for too long. This decision is probably for the best as I've been accepted to numerous other schools with wider notoriety at which I will be happy. I simply can't justify $300,000 in loans for the privilege of being educated in my home state. I will be withdrawing my position from UCHSC MD class of '13 after I get a financial aid offer to chuckle at. Hopefully the school can fill it with someone who will both enrich the class and stay in Colorado.
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I feel your pain I had this happen to me previously at CU. Residency rules are only about where you were the last year and not how long you or your family has been in-state. It seems stupid that someone who has lived in CO for only 1 year would be IS and someone whose family has been here for upwards of 3 generations but has been absent for greater than 1 year is OOS. They are way to cut and dry about it. Sorry to hear it and best of luck.
 
scottyT said:
I'm am no longer a Colorado resident. It seems that despite my conviction that Colorado is my true home, the registrar's office disagrees. Apparently 1.5 years of working in California outweighs 25 years of Colorado residency and over a decade of Colorado taxes (or over a 100 years if you count my family). This is unfortunate. I'm a little pissed off at the whole state right now and feel bitter towards CU. By applying such a generic and narrowly defined formula to determine residency, I feel that the registrar's office is being both disingenuous and not acting in the spirit of the legislation. If they are truly interested in educating physicians to stay in Colorado, they need to act with better discretion regarding who can be considered a resident. I will most likely wind up there in the end regardless; however, it would be nice to be close to my family during med school.

I have been very successful this cycle so I will try not to dwell on this for too long. This decision is probably for the best as I've been accepted to numerous other schools with wider notoriety at which I will be happy. I simply can't justify $300,000 in loans for the privilege of being educated in my home state. I will be withdrawing my position from UCHSC MD class of '13 after I get a financial aid offer to chuckle at. Hopefully the school can fill it with someone who will both enrich the class and stay in Colorado.
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If you get an acceptance, petition your residency. I just did this for my wife (Georgia) and it worked. After being admitted as a CO resident, she is now getting in-state tuition to a Georgia school.
 
fahimaz7 said:
If you get an acceptance, petition your residency. I just did this for my wife (Georgia) and it worked. After being admitted as a CO resident, she is now getting in-state tuition to a Georgia school.
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I am accepted. I did petition. I was denied. I asked the person who denied me about appealing it and it sounds like a lost cause. In fact, my appeal would go straight back to the person who originally denied me.

I'm assuming Georgia's rules for residency are much more holistic in nature. The information I gathered from the CU tuition classification officer indicates that they use a pretty formulaic approach in their determination. That was the purpose of my rant. I understand that I am a non-resident by virtue of having left the state for more than 12 months. I was trying to make a case for the fact that they should exercise greater discretion in their judgment.
 
tdsbird2 said:
where did you hear this?

sadly I am on my third cycle applying to CU and interviewed all three years. Each march plenty of people are accepted, everyone who makes the waitlist is told and everyone else is rejected. Look at threads on SDN from past years you will see in a two day span around March 15th plenty of people reporting acceptances
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good luck, I met an MS1 @ UCHSC who was a 3rd time reapplicant before being accepted. This person said when interviewed the 3rd time that the interviewer didn't understand why the candidate was not accepted during the 2nd round given the candidate's credentials. Dare I say this process is subjective?
 
OMG! After applying to CU for 3 years I just got my acceptance letter today. For those interested I am instate, interviewed for the third time in November, and am a non-traditional student. With a 3.29 GPA 30 MCAT and nearly 30 years of age I didn't think I had much chance at CU, but I made it. Good luck to all those waiting and I hope to see you in August
 
EWAustin said:
OMG! After applying to CU for 3 years I just got my acceptance letter today. For those interested I am instate, interviewed for the third time in November, and am a non-traditional student. With a 3.29 GPA 30 MCAT and nearly 30 years of age I didn't think I had much chance at CU, but I made it. Good luck to all those waiting and I hope to see you in August
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CONGRATS!!!:thumbup:
 
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