2009-2010 University of Alabama Application Thread

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crimsonred said:
I received a letter last year in august to inform me that I could no longer be accepted off of the wait-list.

"This year 2261 students applied, 405 interviewed, and 275 acceptances were offered to fill the 175 positions. Of the 102 students placed on the alternate list, 75 were offered a position at UASOM and 11 of the remaining alternates were accepted elsewhere."

I'm not sure if the 75 in the alternate list are included in the 275 acceptances. I'm assuming they are...? This means there were 34 people per tier and 86 of those on the alternate list were accepted somewhere. So--last year--only 16 people from the wait-list DID NOT go to medical school in 2009. Also, they accepted 1 fewer person last year than they were supposed to--175 instead of 176.
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I don't remember getting that letter, I probably did but I have just blocked it out. So we're 2/16... we should feel pretty special to be in such an exclusive group.
 
Would they accept the entire upper third before moving on to the middle third?
 
Heh...no matter how many times I check my status, it still says "No Longer Under Consideration".

Maybe it'll change? Good luck to you waitlisters. At least they cut me loose now so I don't have to live in delusion for 3 months (at least until I stop re-checking my status)
 
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
 
VanBrown said:
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
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Well, that's no good... Hopefully this was just a pessimistic admission person and the horse will have better news. Thanks for finding out for us tho!
 
DrHKitty said:
Well, that's no good... Hopefully this was just a pessimistic admission person and the horse will have better news. Thanks for finding out for us tho!
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Argh just when things were looking a little better for those in the lower third. If this is true, it's pretty bad.
 
VanBrown said:
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
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VANBROWN - I don't understand the secrecy on the size of the wait list. Did your source say how many people are on the wait list and how reliable is that source?
 
VanBrown said:
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
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What about the upper tier? Did they say anything about how far down they would get?
 
it was a reliable source...

I'm not sure about how far the list will go... but you can assume that the majority of the OOS folks will drop. It goes like that every year. If they have accepted 100 or so then look for 80 of those to drop.

This isn't really any different than any other years, numbers wise... it's just this year they accepted like 180 people rather than 280. So the waitlist is much larger but the spread to acceptance is a lot smaller.

Since it's the first year they are probably saying things very conservatively but it is better to plan for the worst than hope for the best. If they make it into the bottom third then they do... but nothing is certain. A few years ago they accepted 7 people off the waitlist... last year they accepted about 60. So go figure
 
VanBrown said:
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
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Dude that is NOT what I wanted to hear. Thanks for ruining my day.


But seriously thanks for the info... I bet the waitlist still moves a lot.
 
VanBrown said:
it was a reliable source...

I'm not sure about how far the list will go... but you can assume that the majority of the OOS folks will drop. It goes like that every year. If they have accepted 100 or so then look for 80 of those to drop.

This isn't really any different than any other years, numbers wise... it's just this year they accepted like 180 people rather than 280. So the waitlist is much larger but the spread to acceptance is a lot smaller.

Since it's the first year they are probably saying things very conservatively but it is better to plan for the worst than hope for the best. If they make it into the bottom third then they do... but nothing is certain. A few years ago they accepted 7 people off the waitlist... last year they accepted about 60. So go figure
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So upper third people shouldn't consider an acceptance a "sure thing"?
 
Just a quick boost of optimism for you waitlisters -- I'll be turning down my spot in the class next week. I know of one other student who is planning to do the same. Congratulations to everyone accepted and all of those of you who will be accepted shortly! Stay positive!
 
ALPhysics87 said:
Just a quick boost of optimism for you waitlisters -- I'll be turning down my spot in the class next week. I know of one other student who is planning to do the same. Congratulations to everyone accepted and all of those of you who will be accepted shortly! Stay positive!
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Thank you for going ahead now and making that decision to notify them that you are declining a spot. Hopefully, lots of others will also make that same decision very soon!!
 
ALPhysics87 said:
Just a quick boost of optimism for you waitlisters -- I'll be turning down my spot in the class next week. I know of one other student who is planning to do the same. Congratulations to everyone accepted and all of those of you who will be accepted shortly! Stay positive!
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Thanks!
 
2324tigers said:
This may sound irrational, but I'd almost rather get in next early for next year than get in the day before orientation. Talk about no mental prep time.
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At this point they could tell me that I got in the week after class started and I would be ready to go. I know what you mean though
 
VanBrown said:
I haven't gotten to speak to Dr. Smith yet but I have spoken to someone else in admissions.

This year the waitlist is LARGER than the previous 3 years. The class was in fact not oversubscribed as it had been in the past. People will start hearing very soon as people drop.

They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year.

When all is said in done they will have about 25 OOS students, 10 or so MSTP, a handful of early acceptance program people and the rest IS. Our class last year matriculated with 180.

If I get a change to get with Dr. Smith next week I will try and get some from the horse's mouth but this is as good as I got for now.
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I'm having a hard time making sense of these numbers. If the class has in fact not been oversubcribed that would mean we can rightfully assume roughly 180 acceptances TOTAL have been extended. According to most here, almost 120 of those 180 acceptances are OOS. If we assume that only 25 OOS students actually matriculate, that means 95 individuals would have to come off the waitlist (not even considering any IS students who drop, so the number is indeed actually larger).

Now, the waitlist in the past has supposedly been ~60 people. Even if the waitlist was twice that (120), a minimum of 95 people coming from off the waitlist is still dipping into the lower tier. In fact, in my personal discourse with admissions staff I was told 120 was "way too high."

This is why I question the validity of "They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year."

Please explain if I'm wrong. Apparently we have a lot of erroneous numbers floating around.
 
ddroukas said:
I'm having a hard time making sense of these numbers. If the class has in fact not been oversubcribed that would mean we can rightfully assume roughly 180 acceptances TOTAL have been extended. According to most here, almost 120 of those 180 acceptances are OOS. If we assume that only 25 OOS students actually matriculate, that means 95 individuals would have to come off the waitlist (not even considering any IS students who drop, so the number is indeed actually larger).

Now, the waitlist in the past has supposedly been ~60 people. Even if the waitlist was twice that (120), a minimum of 95 people coming from off the waitlist is still dipping into the lower tier. In fact, in my personal discourse with admissions staff I was told 120 was "way too high."

This is why I question the validity of "They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year."

Please explain if I'm wrong. Apparently we have a lot of erroneous numbers floating around.
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I agree with your analysis ddroukas. I too think there is a lot of speculation going on - what I can't understand is the "secrecy" on the part of UAB admissions - why not tell us how many are on the list and how many OOS have been accepted so we can at least make an educated guess as to our chances of getting in. It is not like all of our future plans aren't depending on this!!
 
ddroukas said:
I'm having a hard time making sense of these numbers. If the class has in fact not been oversubcribed that would mean we can rightfully assume roughly 180 acceptances TOTAL have been extended. According to most here, almost 120 of those 180 acceptances are OOS. If we assume that only 25 OOS students actually matriculate, that means 95 individuals would have to come off the waitlist (not even considering any IS students who drop, so the number is indeed actually larger).

Now, the waitlist in the past has supposedly been ~60 people. Even if the waitlist was twice that (120), a minimum of 95 people coming from off the waitlist is still dipping into the lower tier. In fact, in my personal discourse with admissions staff I was told 120 was "way too high."

This is why I question the validity of "They don't expect to get through the middle third of the waitlist this year."

Please explain if I'm wrong. Apparently we have a lot of erroneous numbers floating around.
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There is no way they accepted 120 oos to fill the class of 180 if they in fact have not oversubscribed the class. I think this is where the error is at in the numbers.
 
biomed23 said:
There is no way they accepted 120 oos to fill the class of 180 if they in fact have not oversubscribed the class. I think this is where the error is at in the numbers.
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I agree 👍
 
biomed23 said:
There is no way they accepted 120 oos to fill the class of 180 if they in fact have not oversubscribed the class. I think this is where the error is at in the numbers.
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I looked back in the posts and it was "GITLOW" that posted that Peggy in the admissions office told him that there were 120 OOS accepted. Is this really true - or is "GITLOW" just throwing out #'s??? Is there anyone who can verify this with "peggy in admissions"??
 
ERS said:
I looked back in the posts and it was "GITLOW" that posted that Peggy in the admissions office told him that there were 120 OOS accepted. Is this really true - or is "GITLOW" just throwing out #'s??? Is there anyone who can verify this with "peggy in admissions"??
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Someone should e-mail the UASOM admissions office and ask how many people are on the wait-list.

NOT IT.
 
biomed23 said:
There is no way they accepted 120 oos to fill the class of 180 if they in fact have not oversubscribed the class. I think this is where the error is at in the numbers.
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you think the error is with the 120 or the fact that they have not oversubscribed?
 
Tully Mars said:
you think the error is with the 120 or the fact that they have not oversubscribed?
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"Not oversubscribed" is from the waitlist e-mail itself. And crimsonred, I've already asked admissions staff myself ... in person. Unless I was fed false information I was told the waitlist was ~60-80 people. This was from someone who has personally handled the entire stack of waitlist files.
 
ddroukas said:
"Not oversubscribed" is from the waitlist e-mail itself. And crimsonred, I've already asked admissions staff myself ... in person. Unless I was fed false information I was told the waitlist was ~60-80 people. This was from someone who has personally handled the entire stack of waitlist files.
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yeah i know that was in the waitlist email. i've just heard from numerous sources that 120 OOS was accurate and i don't think there would have been a that much of a delay if this was like any other year and they only let in ~90 OOS. they might not be oversubscribed by much but i tend to think that if the waitlist is in fact only ~70 people that they have to have let in more than 176.
 
Tully Mars said:
you think the error is with the 120 or the fact that they have not oversubscribed?
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I think the error is in the amount of oos students they have accepted. if they tried to fill a class of 180ish with 120 oos students gov. Riley himself would pay them a visit haha, but seriuosly if they have accepted 120 oos students then they have had to accept more than the class size.
 
biomed23 said:
I think the error is in the amount of oos students they have accepted. if they tried to fill a class of 180ish with 120 oos students gov. Riley himself would pay them a visit haha, but seriuosly if they have accepted 120 oos students then they have had to accept more than the class size.
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yeah but i think you have to consider that they plan that only about 1/4 (30) of those OOS are going to come (20-30% is the usual rate) and it seems like most of the people on the waitlist are IS so i think they did accept about 120 OOS and just plan most of them dropping. i could be wrong, but that's just my opinion.
 
Tully Mars said:
yeah but i think you have to consider that they plan that only about 1/4 (30) of those OOS are going to come (20-30% is the usual rate) and it seems like most of the people on the waitlist are IS so i think they did accept about 120 OOS and just plan most of them dropping. i could be wrong, but that's just my opinion.
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I understand what you're saying about 70-80% of the OOS'ers dropping. But I really have a hard time believing that UAB accepted 120 OOS out of 175 spots, for a medical school that is funded by the state of Alabama.
 
ERS said:
I looked back in the posts and it was "GITLOW" that posted that Peggy in the admissions office told him that there were 120 OOS accepted. Is this really true - or is "GITLOW" just throwing out #'s??? Is there anyone who can verify this with "peggy in admissions"??
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it was peggy in usa admissions. perhaps it was anti uab propaganda but i doubt it.
 
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Or maybe everyone is right, and they really did accept 120/175 OOS students - and 90 will go elsewhere. And on top of that the waitlist only has 60-90 people on it, so everyone on the waitlist will get in. 😀

Doubt it though...
 
auburnO5 said:
Or maybe everyone is right, and they really did accept 120/175 OOS students - and 90 will go elsewhere. And on top of that the waitlist only has 60-90 people on it, so everyone on the waitlist will get in. 😀

Doubt it though...
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If I were to get in off the bottom third of the waitlist, which is where I stand now, I would guess it would have to be due to some pretty extreme circumstances (such as the entirety of the accepted class taking up dangerous hobbies such as ice waterfall climbing or base jumping).

The ADCOM is not stupid..they aren't going to inexplicably create a smaller waitlist knowing they are going to go through the whole thing. As much as I wish this were the case, I really hope South comes through.
 
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thejetplane said:
If I were to get in off the bottom third of the waitlist, which is where I stand now, I would guess it would have to be due to some pretty extreme circumstances (such as the entirety of the accepted class taking up dangerous hobbies such as ice waterfall climbing or base jumping).

The ADCOM is not stupid..they aren't going to inexplicably create a smaller waitlist knowing they are going to go through the whole thing. As much as I wish this were the case, I really hope South comes through.
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Haha, nice edit.

Best case scenario is they hit the middle third by the time May 15th rolls around...
 
Do you think they hold and send waitlist acceptances in bulk or do them one-by-one?

Discuss.
 
ddroukas said:
Do you think they hold and send waitlist acceptances in bulk or do them one-by-one?

Discuss.
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DrHKitty mentioned that someone was accepted from the top tier only a couple of days after the waitlist notifications were sent out, so I'm going to guess they send them out one-by-one. I don't imagine too many people could have been accepted so soon after the list was first released.

I'm definitely hoping they don't sent out acceptances in bulk...I can't stand this wait :scared:
 
Received a snail-mail version of the waitlist e-mail today.

EDIT: Got bored and counted the number of Facespace UASOM 2014 group members who were from OOS networks: 17/59.
 
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Just got accepted off of the top 1/3 of the waitlist this morning! :soexcited:

Seems like the waitlist is moving extremely fast! If it keeps moving at this rate, I'm sure many of you guys will have acceptances before you know it. Good luck to everyone still waiting 👍 :luck:
 
Alethea said:
Just got accepted off of the top 1/3 of the waitlist this morning! :soexcited:

Seems like the waitlist is moving extremely fast! If it keeps moving at this rate, I'm sure many of you guys will have acceptances before you know it. Good luck to everyone still waiting 👍 :luck:
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Congrats! Maybe at this rate they may dip down into the lower third.
 
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