2009-2010 University of Cincinnati Application Thread

[UniqueStarz]

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#1 Just wandering whether the invite for interview comes as an e-mail, U.S. mail, or did you see it on the status page??...

#2 If its the status page, where exactly does the invite for interview notice show?

#3 What's the deal with being able to see the current student's names, cell phone numbers, personal address and such? Am i missing something...isn't that too personal to have on one's status page or is it there for those invited to being able to contact before setting up where they will stay when coming for an interview....

Sorry for the long winded question, but hopefully at least one of you all will answer😀

Edit: Sorry about that, I took the time to READ...lol....however, can anyone still answer #2

 

[causalinference]

#1 Just wandering whether the invite for interview comes as an e-mail, U.S. mail, or did you see it on the status page??...

You will receive an e-mail telling you to check your status page.

#2 If its the status page, where exactly does the invite for interview notice show?

If you log in and check your status page, you can't miss it.

 

[Niespo2]

I'm going to take back what I said. What I said was in a moment of frustration. After my year there, I was excited to go to the school and it's just disappointing to be waitlisted.

 

[buffywannabe]

Has anyone been getting invites recently?

 

[linkin06]

Has anyone been getting invites recently?

im anxiously waiting as well 🙁

 

[womp]

So I'm going to trash Cinci because I graduated from their MS in Physiology program where you take their first year curriculum. I finished with a 3.93 in their first year med classes and they wait listed me. ****ers.

I feel for you. The MMI didn't leave any room to talk about our applications, discuss our goals and ask questions about the school. Completely turned me off from the school. I didn't want to be part of a school that herded their prospective students like cattle during the MMI. Talk about starting medical school on a dehumanizing foot. The MMI is terrible at evaluating critical thinking abilities when the interviewers themselves can't listen and logically think about your responses, and just mindlessly follow their prepared questions. Cincinnati didn't even write their own questions and format for the MMI, they ripped it off another school. The prompts even have copyrighted notes on them of the other school! This is the kind of crap that education majors come up with.

Hopefully you'll be pulled off the Alternate List as they eventually accept like 4 times the number of enrollees by summer (I wonder why 🙄). Gluck!

 

[FetalDoc]

I'm going to say this in hopes that it helps some people out. Trashing a school really does nothing for you. Infact it might make situations worse. Niespo 2 you have just identified your self by saying you came from the masters program at UC after the fact of being waitlisted. Im pretty sure people can put 2 and 2 together off your profile name. That really doesnt help you with getting off the waitlist (not to mention admission committee member do pay attention to this website not only from our school but other schools as well) and I understand if you say you don't like the school thats cool, but trashing it doesn't make you look good.
The amount of acceptances given last year was around 350 and only 2 people were pulled off the waitlist. Now you have to take everything on this website with a grain of salt so if you would like to confirm this there is the MSAR and/or asking Dr.Manuel if you get a chance to interview or if you wish calling him.
the MMI is being used because it has been proven through research in Canadian medical schools that it helps identify students who will do better in medical school as well as the treatment of their patients. It also gives applicants a better shot at getting an acceptance because if one station went bad but all the others did better, the bad station remarks are not considered. If you mess up once at a medical school that interviews once or twice your basically finished. It also gauges the maturity and professionalism of applicants so it can make up for other aspects that are considered deficient in your application. The MMI is set up to pick the best applicants who will provide the best patient care when the become doctors. This system is currently being researched by UC to see if we get the same results as the Canadian medical schools and this process isn't perfect but will be perfected as time goes by based on the results. If the results correlate they will continue, if not UC will go back to the drawing board. I hope the information is helpful to people on this website and I will do my best to answer any questions in the future.

 

[julups]

I feel for you. The MMI didn't leave any room to talk about our applications, discuss our goals and ask questions about the school. Completely turned me off from the school. I didn't want to be part of a school that herded their prospective students like cattle during the MMI. Talk about starting medical school on a dehumanizing foot. The MMI is terrible at evaluating critical thinking abilities when the interviewers themselves can't listen and logically think about your responses, and just mindlessly follow their prepared questions. Cincinnati didn't even write their own questions and format for the MMI, they ripped it off another school. The prompts even have copyrighted notes on them of the other school! This is the kind of crap that education majors come up with.

Hopefully you'll be pulled off the Alternate List as they eventually accept like 4 times the number of enrollees by summer (I wonder why 🙄). Gluck!

Sounds like someone got waitlisted and is a bit sour. If you read the Canadian research, the MMI is a far better indicator of overall achievement than the traditional interview process. Don't go bashing the school just because you didn't get in. There should have been a number of chances to ask questions, from the student tour to various presentations from faculty to asking the dean after the session. A number of other US MD schools are doing trials of the MMI this year, if it is such a horrible system, I doubt it would be used around the world with increasing frequency.

Personally, I like the concept of the MMI because having just spend hours doing primary and secondary applications, I've already listed all my achievements and goals. Asking me to reiterate them, is almost treating me like they don't believe me and are trying to catch me on a small detail, or that they are too lazy to read the app I wrote. I rather prefer a school to spend the interview examining my qualities they can't get on paper.

And while I don't have exact numbers on hand, last year they interviewed about 650 people and eventually offered acceptances to about 350, for a class of 160. Maybe your math skills are one of the reasons you got waitlisted?

 

[womp]

I'm going to say this in hopes that it helps some people out. Trashing a school really does nothing for you. Infact it might make situations worse. Niespo 2 you have just identified your self by saying you came from the masters program at UC after the fact of being waitlisted. Im pretty sure people can put 2 and 2 together off your profile name. That really doesnt help you with getting off the waitlist (not to mention admission committee member do pay attention to this website not only from our school but other schools as well) and I understand if you say you don't like the school thats cool, but trashing it doesn't make you look good.
The amount of acceptances given last year was around 350 and only 2 people were pulled off the waitlist. Now you have to take everything on this website with a grain of salt so if you would like to confirm this there is the MSAR and/or asking Dr.Manuel if you get a chance to interview or if you wish calling him.
the MMI is being used because it has been proven through research in Canadian medical schools that it helps identify students who will do better in medical school as well as the treatment of their patients. It also gives applicants a better shot at getting an acceptance because if one station went bad but all the others did better, the bad station remarks are not considered. If you mess up once at a medical school that interviews once or twice your basically finished. It also gauges the maturity and professionalism of applicants so it can make up for other aspects that are considered deficient in your application. The MMI is set up to pick the best applicants who will provide the best patient care when the become doctors. This system is currently being researched by UC to see if we get the same results as the Canadian medical schools and this process isn't perfect but will be perfected as time goes by based on the results. If the results correlate they will continue, if not UC will go back to the drawing board. I hope the information is helpful to people on this website and I will do my best to answer any questions in the future.

Oh man, the propaganda troupe is here in full force, along with the 1-post posters. If only 2 people were pulled off from the waitlist as you say, then it doesn't really matter what Niespo says on this thread or not. They might as well just reject everyone instead of pretending to put everyone on the Alternate List. Niespo didn't trash your school either, he was expressing his severe disappointment at being waitlisted to a school where he took the same classes as the M1 students and got a 3.93 at their SMP program. Anyone with an ounce of compassion can relate to that, instead you are on here threatening him of being blackballed. Pathetic.

I know what the MMI in theory does, I listened through the speech your dean gave (along with some highly questionable correlation numbers to the Step 2, Canadians don't even take Step 2), but it doesn't work too well in reality when the interviewers aren't fluent enough themselves to think through your reasoned answers, and instead respond with non sequitur and prepared follow-up questions, all within the 8 minute limit. Are we auditioning for an acting job at Cincinnati or are we interviewing to become physicians? There's something wrong when the interview feels like a contrived reality TV contest.

Does the girl on the bottom in black make for a better doctor than the one in green?

Here's the actual stats from last year of OOS applicants to Cincinnati:
231 interviewed, 168 were accepted, 61 enrolled.

Are you sure only two were pulled from the waitlist?

 

[dingyibvs]

I'm curious, where can I find the Canadian research about MMI that I hear so much about? Does anybody have a link to it?

BTW, the waitlist movement was EXTREMELY small, because UC over-accepted by a large margin last year and really struggled to get to their class size. The first movement didn't come until I think over a month after 5/15.

EDIT:

Also, I fail to see how it gives candidates a better chance at getting an acceptance. The only thing that can change that is the interviewee/acceptance ratio, not the interview format.

 

[Latetotheparty]

I haven't had my interview at Cincinnati yet, so I can't speak from personal experience about the MMI format, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that traditional medical school interview formats are without flaw. Just talk to the other interviewees at your interview about how the interview went, how the interviewer approached the interview, what kinds of questions were asked, and you'll see a HUGE range.

What do the schools gain from having two people interview, one person is asked about their application contents and ends up being a chatty conversation about some side-topic, and the second person is grilled about global health care, domestic health care policy and the best ways to tackle the biggest problem in the health care system. How are these two interviews even close to equivalent? This kind of stuff happens all the time.

The alternative is to have interviewers instructed to ask a certain set of questions (this method often seems awkward and random...and unless the questions are very well crafted, I question again what is being gained from the interview) or stick to discussing things in the interviewees application, at which point we don't gain much information about this person we can't simply read in their papers.

MMI might be totally flawed, or maybe it's the best thing since creamy peanut butter. I don't have any experience with it, and I suspect that it's the kind of thing that can't be tuned or perfected overnight. I think a lot of the backlash against it stems from it being unfamiliar and therefore uncomfortable, but saying that it's unfair or less useful than a standard interview seems to be little bit willfully ignorant.

 

[rockaction]

I'm kind of glad my last med school interview EVER will be this MMI stuff. I'm so tired of conventional interviews at this point (I don't know how people with double-digit invites do it).

At any rate, I'm looking forward to bumming off my parents in Cincy for a couple days!

 

[FetalDoc]

Womp: I obviously never said the supposed person was going to be blacklisted. I said it didnt make him/her look good. I wish him/her the best in his/her med school application cycle and I was making him/her aware of the perception of his words and how they can do harm. I was trying to help, I could have basically said nothing. I'm not getting into an argument, especially with someone I will never meet nor is it important, Im a successful med student and will be a doctor. My purpose is to put info out their for people who want it and answer questions to people interested in my school. If your not interested in my school thats fine, but it seems you are putting in a lot of effort in saying things about my school that isn't productive especially by saying "the interviewers themselves can't listen and logically think about your responses, and just mindlessly follow their prepared questions". You know what you were getting in before you applied and if you didnt like it you should have just given the opportunity to someone else who would appreciate it. This is all the time I wish to spend on this.

dingyibvs:
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[womp]

Thanks FetalDoc for the study links.

Essentially these studies (Eva, Reiter, Rosenfield) showed that the MMI was most predictive of your ability to take other MMI tests (OSCE in the Canadian licensing exams). Wow... that's some finding there. And most of the positive studies all come from the same McMaster University group (Eva, Reiter, Rosenfield). Too bad the closest thing we have in the US to the OSCE is the pass/fail Step 2 CS, which is considered an arbitrary joke to most US students. Remember to obsessively wash your hands when you take Step 2 CS!

"Results. The MMI was the best predictor of objective structured clinical examination (OSCE) performance and grade point average was the most consistent predictor of performance on multiple-choice question examinations of medical knowledge."

https://journals.lww.com/academicme...ity_of_the_Multiple_Mini_Interview_to.12.aspx

Canadians also don't take the Step 1, Step 2... so what were those Step 2 correlations we saw in the presentation slides from Dean Manuel? Cincinnati just started their MMI last year, too early to have any Step 2 data. Furthermore, Step 2 CK is a written test of clinical sciences knowledge (hardly related to the "skills" tested on the MMI), and Step 2 CS using the standardized patients is pass/fail with 97% (!) pass rate among all US seniors, so how are we correlating anything? Even with 97% passing, Step 2 CS is also the most controversial of all the Steps, and is about to be phased out soon in the US. Gee, I wonder why?

 

[FetalDoc]

Thanks FatalDoc for the study links.

Essentially these studies (Eva, Reiter, Rosenfield) showed that the MMI was most predictive of your ability to take other MMI tests (OSCE in the Canadian licensing exams). Wow... that's some finding there. And most of the positive studies all come from the same McMaster University group (Eva, Reiter, Rosenfield).

Canadians also don't take the Step 1, Step 2... so what were those Step 2 correlations we saw in the presentation slides from Dean Manuel? Cincinnati just started their MMI last year, too early to have any Step 2 data. Furthermore, Step 2 CK is a written test of clinical sciences knowledge (hardly related to the "skills" tested on the MMI), and Step 2 CS the clinical skills test using the standardized patients is pass/fail with 97% (!) pass rate among all US seniors, so how are we correlating anything? Even with 97% passing, Step 2 CS is also the most controversial of all the Steps, and is about to be phased out soon in the US. Gee, I wonder why?

I cannot comment on these papers or questions based on your interaction with Dr.Manuel and the data he presented and I think you should contact him in reference to these claims. I would also encourage any other applicants if they have the same views to contact Dr.Manuel. nice touch with "fataldoc" man and the amount of effort you put in downing UC, I hope it makes you feel great. lol. something tells me you were rejected or waitlisted by my institution and probably for good reason.

 

[rowerontheriver]

Sorry you had such a bad experience with the MMI interview womp, most people I talk to rather enjoyed it. No interview process is going to be perfect, especially one that is still being developed. There are a number of threads on these boards dedicated to horror stories about interviewers who say inappropriate things, seem to hate the interviewee on sight, or ask 2 questions and that's the end of the interview. What I found with the MMI is that even if I have one or two people like that, there are still 6-7 who are willing to vouch for me. I'll take that over one person having the ability to screw me over every time.

As for the acceptances/enrollment statistics, go look at most other schools. Other than Harvard/Hopkins/etc, you're going to see a lot of similar numbers. You see a lot of people on these boards with 8 acceptances, they're going to have to turn down 7 of those schools, it's life. You either can complain that a school has a low enrollment:acceptance ratio or that they screen out "overqualified" applicants- you can't have it both ways. Would you prefer a school that has an 100% enrollment rate because they take people they don't think will get in anywhere else? At least UC takes who they believe to be the best people.

I have to agree with FetalDoc, if you disliked the school so much, why didn't you withdraw your app immediately after the interview, had you gotten an acceptance, it could have gone to someone else. What happened happened, and if you were so disgusted with the school, why do you even care enough to keep posting here. I'm with FetalDoc in that it's silly to argue with you beyond this. You have an acceptance elsewhere, move on. Other people would kill to be in your position right now, accept it with grace and enjoy the victory.

To everyone else, if you get an opportunity to interview, I would recommend you do so and decide for yourself. Personally my UC interview day was my favorite.

 

[womp]

I'm done with this thread. I get it, thou shall not speak negatively of the MMI. It's amazing that as a group of people supposedly invested in science and interested in research, everyone here just accepts on face value of these magical "Canadian studies that show how great the MMI is." Most of these studies cited have a sample size of 45, are self-referencing, and deal with issues unique to the Canadian medical system, such as the existing OSCE (Objective Structured Clinical Examination) focus in the Canadian medical licensing exam. The applicant pool and the matriculation age of Canadian med students are also much younger, at around 22.

G'luck to those who are applying. BTW, I withdrew right after my top choice acceptance. I liked UC when I visited (as you can find in the last page or so), and gave the facilities and students a rave review, my only gripe was with the MMI and its touted benefits. I'm unconvinced and reading through these studies has made me even less convinced. It's highly conceivable that something like the MMI would lend to large systematic biases.

And FetalDoc, I misread your username, it was not intentional.

 

[Priya Q Pied]

Forum fight! Forum fight! Forum fight!

Womp, I like you.

Your argument blew everyone else's support of MMI out of the water. Several of your critics have moved away from addressing your points and have moved toward ad hominem attacks -- a definite sign of their defeat. Hell yeah.

That said, I have yet to participate in an MMI interview (or any med school interview, for that matter). A part of me thinks MMI could be really... fun. But that's irrelevant and a priori.

 

[Dr Wake N Bake]

Man... simmah down now fellas and ladies. No need to raise blood pressure over an internet argument about interview methods.

For those who have an upcoming interview or are waiting for an interview, just relax. The MMI is real chill. Even borderline entertaining relative to the standard interviews that you're used to. You guys will do great.

 

[jahen86]

im anxiously waiting as well 🙁

same here. doesn't seem like there's much activity going on here, and i applied pretty early too (july). are they being more selective with their interview screenings?

 

[dingyibvs]

I'm done with this thread. I get it, thou shall not speak negatively of the MMI. It's amazing that as a group of people supposedly invested in science and interested in research, everyone here just accepts on face value of these magical "Canadian studies that show how great the MMI is." Most of these studies cited have a sample size of 45, are self-referencing, and deal with issues unique to the Canadian medical system, such as the existing OSCE (Objective Structured Clinical Examination) focus in the Canadian medical licensing exam. The applicant pool and the matriculation age of Canadian med students are also much younger, at around 22.

G'luck to those who are applying. BTW, I withdrew right after my top choice acceptance. I liked UC when I visited (as you can find in the last page or so), and gave the facilities and students a rave review, my only gripe was with the MMI and its touted benefits. I'm unconvinced and reading through these studies has made me even less convinced. It's highly conceivable that something like the MMI would lend to large systematic biases.

And FetalDoc, I misread your username, it was not intentional.

Hmmm...interesting points, anybody has a retort?

 

[linkin06]

only way to settle this is the octagon

 

[Priya Q Pied]

wait, so, linkin06...
does that mean MMI actually stands for Mixed Martials Interview?

 

[linkin06]

wait, so, linkin06...
does that mean MMI actually stands for Mixed Martials Interview?

OMG u win

 

[rowerontheriver]

Forum fight! Forum fight! Forum fight!

Womp, I like you.

Your argument blew everyone else's support of MMI out of the water. Several of your critics have moved away from addressing your points and have moved toward ad hominem attacks -- a definite sign of their defeat. Hell yeah.

That said, I have yet to participate in an MMI interview (or any med school interview, for that matter). A part of me thinks MMI could be really... fun. But that's irrelevant and a priori.

The reason womp got such strong responses back from people is that he initially wasn't attacking the MMI, but rather the school itself. I'll be more than happy to discuss my opinions of the pros and cons of the MMI (and maybe even reread the papers over christmas break when I don't have chapters to be studying each night), but I don't want to get into an emotionally-charged argument about it. Womp brings up some good points about flaws in the research currently available, but until a few American schools are willing to try the new method, it will be rather difficult to obtain the data womp seemed to be seeking. Yeah, UC gets rather excited about the MMI, but even they will admit that it is something they are constantly evaluating and working to improve.

Honestly, I can't say I have read any of the literature on the MMI in the past year, and in no way claim to be an expert on it- school demands I focus on other things. What I can say, is that I enjoyed it and in my experience, it attempts to correct for a number of horror stories from other people and problems I have encountered with the traditional interview system. Given how it is spreading through more than just Canada, other people are finding it effective as well, or at least worth investigating. Does that make it perfect? Nope. But after reading these boards and realizing how many people participate in activities based on how they think they it will look on their application (not how interested they are in them) I appreciate med schools attempting to look at personality/character in an interview instead of asking applicants to regurgitate information about officer positions, volunteering, and other accomplishments.

Oh, and in the Mixed Martials Interview, if you get the dean of admissions in the nose, automatic acceptance!

 

[dingyibvs]

The reason womp got such strong responses back from people is that he initially wasn't attacking the MMI, but rather the school itself. I'll be more than happy to discuss my opinions of the pros and cons of the MMI (and maybe even reread the papers over christmas break when I don't have chapters to be studying each night), but I don't want to get into an emotionally-charged argument about it. Womp brings up some good points about flaws in the research currently available, but until a few American schools are willing to try the new method, it will be rather difficult to obtain the data womp seemed to be seeking. Yeah, UC gets rather excited about the MMI, but even they will admit that it is something they are constantly evaluating and working to improve.

Honestly, I can't say I have read any of the literature on the MMI in the past year, and in no way claim to be an expert on it- school demands I focus on other things. What I can say, is that I enjoyed it and in my experience, it attempts to correct for a number of horror stories from other people and problems I have encountered with the traditional interview system. Given how it is spreading through more than just Canada, other people are finding it effective as well, or at least worth investigating. Does that make it perfect? Nope. But after reading these boards and realizing how many people participate in activities based on how they think they it will look on their application (not how interested they are in them) I appreciate med schools attempting to look at personality/character in an interview instead of asking applicants to regurgitate information about officer positions, volunteering, and other accomplishments.

Oh, and in the Mixed Martials Interview, if you get the dean of admissions in the nose, automatic acceptance!

I don't see how the MMI can allow an applicant to demonstrate his personality/character. In fact, I'd least expect the MMI with its set prompts and questions to allow that. A conversational, hour-long interview seems to do that much better, no?

 

[osumc2014]

I don't see how the MMI can allow an applicant to demonstrate his personality/character. In fact, I'd least expect the MMI with its set prompts and questions to allow that. A conversational, hour-long interview seems to do that much better, no?

I disagree, after going through the MMI, I felt that it definately was able to gauge my personality and character with the on the fly response times and see how you think through ethical questions.

 

[dingyibvs]

I disagree, after going through the MMI, I felt that it definately was able to gauge my personality and character with the on the fly response times and see how you think through ethical questions.

I've gone through it as well, and I don't see how that can gauge anyone's personality and character. It's more of a gauge of your preparedness with ethical questions(they're pretty standard) and your critical thinking skills. I felt that in my "normal" conversational interviews, I was able to let my personality show much better, even in how I handled my mistakes.

 

[rowerontheriver]

I've gone through it as well, and I don't see how that can gauge anyone's personality and character. It's more of a gauge of your preparedness with ethical questions(they're pretty standard) and your critical thinking skills. I felt that in my "normal" conversational interviews, I was able to let my personality show much better, even in how I handled my mistakes.

If you look at the scoring rubrics available online, most of what actually gets scored has little to do with your actual answers, the exception being evaluating how well you've thought about them. You can answer pretty much anything you want, and as long as you are non-confrontation about it and not closed-minded to the fact that other people may have different opinions, you can score well. While a person may be able to make themselves appear more interesting/humorous/fun to be around in a regular interview, I think MMI gets at, if not your views and beliefs, how well you can think on your feet, how understanding you can be of other view points, and how well you can compose your thoughts under pressure. Other than academics, leadership, and character (which pretty much every school relies the standard app and letters to assess) I think those are some of the most important qualities a doctor can have.

That being said, I'm not entirely convinced of the research saying people who prepare for the MMI and have the questions in advance do no better than if they hadn't prepared (I'm pretty sure I read something along these lines last year). However, you can be coached just as much for a traditional interview, and at least this way there is a bit more spontaneity involved. It's kinda like how the MCAT gives you all 500 or so essay prompts that could be used, but I'm not convinced that really helps anyone that much. Schools also write some of their own questions/scenarios from time to time. Given that schools have only been doing this for the past 5 years or so, I have no doubt that it will continue to evolve over the the coming years.

 

[c4e]

I find womp's comments of UCCOM just based on the interview process to be dismissive of and insulting towards an accredited medical school. Some of us medical students were only accepted to one medical school (in my case UCCOM) and did not have the luxury of being accepted to our top medical school of choice. The MMI was my saving grace, since I do not do well in the traditional 45-minute interview. You should at least respect the school's method of selecting its students to be what the school believes to be way of trying to select the most qualified applicants to make the best doctors, even if you do disagree with its methods and ultimately move on to another school. Ultimately, womp's demeanor crosses the line into territory that is hardly fitting of a future professional, and is why I think it has elicited such a strong response from some of us in this thread.

To Niespo2: I feel your disappointment with being waitlisted at your program of choice, as I have been many times, especially after having put so much time and effort towards your goal. However, being negative, especially on such an open forum, is not a wise approach to take, especially since admissions committees have been known to scour forums and other online venues for extra personal and identifying information that do not show up on a typical application. All I can say is that this is another setback, yes, but you can now start planning to follow up with the school and possibly start planning what you can do towards the next application cycle (6 months) to improve your chances of getting in.

 

[makeshift123]

got the invite today, but it was their special Diversity Interview Day (2 day program, with the actual interview on the second day). Anyone else get this/know anything about it?

 

[starl3tte]

got the invite today, but it was their special Diversity Interview Day (2 day program, with the actual interview on the second day). Anyone else get this/know anything about it?

I rec'd the Diversity invite today too. I don't know anything about it though.

 

[linkin06]

are u guys urm?

 

[osumc2014]

Are they releasing some decisions tomorrow?? 😳

 

[starl3tte]

I rec'd the Diversity invite today too. I don't know anything about it though.

Also, the interview invite doesn't show up in my status page! But the complementary hotel lodging is pretty sweet - don't know if that's just for the Diversity Day Interview invite or all invites.

 

[starl3tte]

are u guys urm?

I'm half Mexican and half over-represented minority. I guess so?

 

[osumc2014]

Also, the interview invite doesn't show up in my status page! But the complementary hotel lodging is pretty sweet - don't know if that's just for the Diversity Day Interview invite or all invites.

Just you it seems

 

[adqnn]

Is it known what time of day decisions are released? Also, has anyone who interviewed on October 16th heard anything yet?

Thanks for any input!!

Adam

 

[thedoctor8706]

same here. doesn't seem like there's much activity going on here, and i applied pretty early too (july). are they being more selective with their interview screenings?

I've also been complete since July 24 and I haven't heard anything yet...

 

[osumc2014]

Is it known what time of day decisions are released? Also, has anyone who interviewed on October 16th heard anything yet?

Thanks for any input!!

Adam

No idea when. I have not heard either

 

[Absurdist]

Completed 9/24. Haven't heard anything yet...

 

[adqnn]

No idea when. I have not heard either

Will ya post up if you hear back today? Ill do the same. It will either be today or next Wednesday if I remember correctly.

 

[osumc2014]

Will ya post up if you hear back today? Ill do the same. It will either be today or next Wednesday if I remember correctly.

Ya sure. 2/3 this wed. 1/3 next wed

 

[adqnn]

Ya sure. 2/3 this wed. 1/3 next wed

I assumed it was 5050. That is great news it is 2/3. Good luck to you!

 

[adqnn]

No decision on my front yet. Has anyone heard anything yet? Would it be too pushy to call just to see if they have released any acceptances today?

Thanks,

Adam

 

[osumc2014]

No decision on my front yet. Has anyone heard anything yet? Would it be too pushy to call just to see if they have released any acceptances today?

Thanks,

Adam

Ya calling would probably be a good idea, they said they were sending out decisions this wed. Let us know!

 

[adqnn]

I just gave the admissions office a call, but I only made it to a voicemail. They may have left for the day. I am unsure if maybe we are part of the one third who will hear back from them next week or if they are a little delayed on sending out decisions. Have you heard anything else?

 

[ilikekiwis]

i haven't heard my decision from them either. maybe they set it up to go out automatically at night? hopefully?

 

[osumc2014]

I just gave the admissions office a call, but I only made it to a voicemail. They may have left for the day. I am unsure if maybe we are part of the one third who will hear back from them next week or if they are a little delayed on sending out decisions. Have you heard anything else?

I have not heard anyone who interviewed that day got news.

 

[osumc2014]

i haven't heard my decision from them either. maybe they set it up to go out automatically at night? hopefully?

Doubt it, they did say when the adcom enters it in their computer, it transfers to our status page immediately, in real time