2011-2012 Temple Application Thread

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Was anyone able to find Temple's match list this year?
 
I was also waitlisted today at Temple (main campus), interviewed early March.
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Waitlisted for St. Lukes. Anyone know if/when, and how much movement there is on the St. Lukes WL?
 
Continuing Candidates today at St. Lukes, interviewed March 6th.

Any idea on waitlist movement?
 
Geekchick921 said:
I dont know if they posted it anywhere on TUSM's site but they sent it to us. Whatcha want to know?
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Its on the website but the link doesn't work. I was just curious to see the most popular specialties, how many people stay at Temple and PA in general.

thanks a lot
 
11235813 said:
Its on the website but the link doesn't work. I was just curious to see the most popular specialties, how many people stay at Temple and PA in general.

thanks a lot
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Alrighty. It looks like there are 176 people on this match list. Of those people...
(These are how they were listed in alphabetical order by specialty)
6 in Anesthesia
2 in Child Neuro
1 in Derm
17 in EM (The match lists I've seen tell me EM is a popular choice here. That makes sense given how busy and interesting the emergency department is at the hospital.)
9 in Family Medicine
11 in General Surgery
33 in Internal Medicine
1 in Med-Derm/BIDMC (Not sure what this is)
1 in Med-Peds
3 in Medicine-Primary (I'm not sure what this is. I thought maybe it was like a prelim year but those are listed elsewhere.)
3 in Neurology
14 in Ob/Gyn
7 in Ophtho
5 in Ortho
3 in ENT
2 in Pathology
23 in Pediatrics
1 in Pediatrics-Preliminary
1 in Pediatrics-Primary Care
1 in Peds/Psych/Child Psych
4 in PM&R
1 in Prelim Medicine
4 in Prelim Surgery
3 in Psych
1 in Rad-Onc
15 in Rads (Diagnostic)
1 in Surg-Prelim/Urology
1 in Surg-Prelim
1 in Transitional Year
1 in Transitional/Radiology

The 5 states with the most matches were PA, California, Massachusetts, Maryland and New York.
66 students matched in Pennsylvania. 47 in/right around Philly (48 if you count Crozer-Chester), 8 out in Pittsburgh, 4 at St. Luke's in Bethlehem, 2 at Geisinger, 2 in Lancaster, 1 in Hershey, and 1 in York,
10 students matched in California, I think mostly in the Los Angeles area (I think 2 are in/around San Francisco).
14 people in Massachusetts (I think they're all in Boston).
7 in Maryland.
18 in New York (looks like it's mostly in NYC and Long Island).

Of the Pennsylvania matches, 20 students matched to Temple (3 in EM, 1 in Gen Surg, 7 in IM, 1 in Ob/Gyn, 1 in Ophtho, 2 in Ortho, 2 in PM&R, 2 in Prelim Surgery and 1 in Diagnostic Rads).
 
my gawd, how is it possible that my application is still under review?
 
I withdrew my spot back in February and still haven't gotten the deposit money back 🙁
 
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anyone know when we will get our financial aid packages???
 
notreallysure said:
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anyone know when we will get our financial aid packages???
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Someone in the FB group called the financial aid office and asked, and apparently financial aid information doesn't go out until June.

I'll be withdrawing my acceptance (main program). Good luck to everyone!
 
Ismet said:
Someone in the FB group called the financial aid office and asked, and apparently financial aid information doesn't go out until June.

I'll be withdrawing my acceptance (main program). Good luck to everyone!
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can anyone else confirm this? it seems a little bizarre. I feel bad holding my acceptance when there are people on the waitlist but I would totally consider attending Temple if the financial aid package was good so I didn't want to withdraw until I saw the award. hmmmm
 
I honestly don't remember when our packages came out last year, but they definitely were late.
 
We were told by the financial aid lady during the interview day that the financial aid packages would not go out until June also.
 
A friend of mine recently sent out her FAFSA form; however, the Temple site states that there is a March 1st deadline for financial aid. And it states that after this date, you may not be able to recieve all of the financial aid that they offer. Are there any significant repercussions for not getting in the FAFSA in before this date?
 
Fisherington said:
A friend of mine recently sent out her FAFSA form; however, the Temple site states that there is a March 1st deadline for financial aid. And it states that after this date, you may not be able to recieve all of the financial aid that they offer. Are there any significant repercussions for not getting in the FAFSA in before this date?
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Just that everyone who submitted before March 1 (I'm assuming most people) gets first priority.
 
The way financial aid worked for us last year is that you will find out shortly after submit your FAFSA form/get accepted if you get scholarships or not. I think this is generally true but I'm sure there are exceptions, so if you are deciding between schools, you shouldn't be waiting on Temple to send you scholarships if you don't already have them. While the financial aid package doesn't go out until June-ish, it is the same for everybody as far as I know. Everyone will get the same amount of Stafford Subsidized & Unsubsidized & you can apply for Grad Plus on top of that up to the Cost of Attendance. You will not have to worry about not having the money to pay tuition, rent, etc as everyone will get what they need, unless you can afford to pay out of pocket.

My point is that Temple's financial aid package should not be the determining factor or thing that is stalling you from choosing between schools. Money that you will be offered outside of loans has probably already been offered & the money you get on top of that with the financial aid package is just loans, which is the same amount of subsidized & unsubsidized for everyone.
 
cer26 said:
The way financial aid worked for us last year is that you will find out shortly after submit your FAFSA form/get accepted if you get scholarships or not. I think this is generally true but I'm sure there are exceptions, so if you are deciding between schools, you shouldn't be waiting on Temple to send you scholarships if you don't already have them. While the financial aid package doesn't go out until June-ish, it is the same for everybody as far as I know. Everyone will get the same amount of Stafford Subsidized & Unsubsidized & you can apply for Grad Plus on top of that up to the Cost of Attendance. You will not have to worry about not having the money to pay tuition, rent, etc as everyone will get what they need, unless you can afford to pay out of pocket.

My point is that Temple's financial aid package should not be the determining factor or thing that is stalling you from choosing between schools. Money that you will be offered outside of loans has probably already been offered & the money you get on top of that with the financial aid package is just loans, which is the same amount of subsidized & unsubsidized for everyone.
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Agreed all around. 👍
 
cer26 said:
The way financial aid worked for us last year is that you will find out shortly after submit your FAFSA form/get accepted if you get scholarships or not. I think this is generally true but I'm sure there are exceptions, so if you are deciding between schools, you shouldn't be waiting on Temple to send you scholarships if you don't already have them. While the financial aid package doesn't go out until June-ish, it is the same for everybody as far as I know. Everyone will get the same amount of Stafford Subsidized & Unsubsidized & you can apply for Grad Plus on top of that up to the Cost of Attendance. You will not have to worry about not having the money to pay tuition, rent, etc as everyone will get what they need, unless you can afford to pay out of pocket.

My point is that Temple's financial aid package should not be the determining factor or thing that is stalling you from choosing between schools. Money that you will be offered outside of loans has probably already been offered & the money you get on top of that with the financial aid package is just loans, which is the same amount of subsidized & unsubsidized for everyone.
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Are the scholarships you're referring to need-based, merit-based, or both?

Perhaps people just haven't been disclosing their scholarship awards on here, but so far I've only seen one post on this thread about receiving any scholarship and nothing on the mdapps of those accepted. Have scholarship funds really been used up already? It may be wishful thinking, but perhaps they haven't given out many scholarships yet. :shrug:
 
I have 40+ MCAT and 3.95 GPA... no merit scholarship money to date. Not trying to be a douche, but damn.... if I don't get any, who is?
 
DoctorDachshund said:
I have 40+ MCAT and 3.95 GPA... no merit scholarship money to date. Not trying to be a douche, but damn.... if I don't get any, who is?
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The one poster on this thread who received a scholarship has excellent numbers, but not as high as yours. If I remember correctly from second look, merit based scholarships are based solely on GPA and MCAT, which would mean you certainly should have been offered a scholarship. I don't understand this process at all. 😕
 
I'm pretty sure it is both that have come out so far & it seems to me that scholarships are based on both need & merit. Also MOST students don't get scholarships of any kind, just loans.
Here's what happened to me and what the financial aid office has told me over the past year, as we've had a lot of hassle & frustration with getting our loans this year:
I was accepted early last Feb & got my scholarships by the middle of March. At the time, I thought they were merit based, but I've learned in the past week or so that they are actually need based, so I really don't think they give scholarships just for merit or just for need, and also if the class size is getting larger, the scholarship funds will go more quickly and less students will get them. I think I then got my financial aid package in June that included those scholarships & mostly loans. EVERYONE gets $8500/year in unsubsidized Staffords, and EVERYONE gets $34222/year in subsidized Staffords.

Again, with the scholarships, if you have been accepted recently, then I'd say there's still a chance of getting some money, but if it's been a few months, I wouldn't count on it too much. Obviously, there is always a chance, but in my opinion it's not super likely.
 
Thanks cer26 for your posts, I appreciate your help. Of course, I realize scholarships are a rarity and am expecting to go into serious debt, but I guess I just feel a little misled by how they talked about financial aid during second look. I mean, they explained how we will be "ranked" in terms of GPA/MCAT and then funds will be distributed accordingly -- i.e. not past tense. It would have been better if they just said, "You would have received a scholarship shortly after your acceptance" but they didn't say that at all. They made it seem like scholarships weren't distributed yet. That was my impression at least.
 
How do you define "need". We are all med students coming in with next to nothing. Oh, my parents have some money? I'm 22, they are done paying for me. Oh, because my parents have some money, I get to borow it all, but little Jimmy, who's parents don't make as much, gets free money so he'll owe less when he graduates. HOW THE HELL does that make any sense? We are both Temple doctors and have the same ability to pay of loans. Why does Jimmy get to graduate with fewer loans? It's all just a system designed to screw anybody whose PARENTS have some money. They just expect your parents to pay for the medical school now. What a crock. Devoid of any cogent thought. If I can afford to pay off $200,000 in loans, so can JIMMY, no matter HOW MUCH MONEY his parents have.
 
DoctorDachshund said:
How do you define "need". We are all med students coming in with next to nothing. Oh, my parents have some money? I'm 22, they are done paying for me. Oh, because my parents have some money, I get to borow it all, but little Jimmy, who's parents don't make as much, gets free money so he'll owe less when he graduates. HOW THE HELL does that make any sense? We are both Temple doctors and have the same ability to pay of loans. Why does Jimmy get to graduate with fewer loans? It's all just a system designed to screw anybody whose PARENTS have some money. They just expect your parents to pay for the medical school now. What a crock. Devoid of any cogent thought. If I can afford to pay off $200,000 in loans, so can JIMMY, no matter HOW MUCH MONEY his parents have.
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I understand this is frustrating, but there are a couple things you have to realize about the scholarships:

1. MOST people do NOT get a scholarship of any kind. You should be feeling extremely lucky if you get one. Everyone here is extremely smart & extremely deserving of scholarships, and they obviously can't give one to everyone. They are not that common as they were in undergrad, and most people are living off loans or family contributions.

2. I don't know about everyone else, but for the scholarships I got, they are in no way whatsoever going to keep me from getting >$200,000 in debt. But again, I don't know if this is generally true for most people who did get them. Obviously people that got scholarships aren't advertising it.

3. The scholarships come from very specific donors and are not from a general fund that the school provides. The only reason I know this is because we were given the names of our specific donors and asked to write thank you letters to them. On the papers with their names was a short description of what they were given for. The point of this is that if it's a specific person donating, they are obviously allowed to have guidelines, etc on who gets is, and while it is up to the school on how to distribute them, it's not like it's coming from a giant pool of money.

4. There are people in school that have parents that are extremely wealthy or have some outside source of money, because I know of a few people that took no loans out at all. Obviously those people deserve no need based aid & will not get it. My parents are contributing NOTHING for me to go to school because they just can't & my guess is that many people who are still in their early 20s and aren't married/don't have a family are getting contributions in some way from their parents and therefore aren't getting any scholarship money.

Yeah, it's frustrating, but deal with it -> (med school in a nutshell)
 
DoctorDachshund said:
How do you define "need". We are all med students coming in with next to nothing. Oh, my parents have some money? I'm 22, they are done paying for me. Oh, because my parents have some money, I get to borow it all, but little Jimmy, who's parents don't make as much, gets free money so he'll owe less when he graduates. HOW THE HELL does that make any sense? We are both Temple doctors and have the same ability to pay of loans. Why does Jimmy get to graduate with fewer loans? It's all just a system designed to screw anybody whose PARENTS have some money. They just expect your parents to pay for the medical school now. What a crock. Devoid of any cogent thought. If I can afford to pay off $200,000 in loans, so can JIMMY, no matter HOW MUCH MONEY his parents have.
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Here in America we have one party to take care of the wealthy and one to take care of the poor. Fall into one of those categories and you'll be in decent shape. If you fall somewhere in the middle, you can go die in a ditch for all anyone cares.
 
DoctorDachshund said:
How do you define "need". We are all med students coming in with next to nothing. Oh, my parents have some money? I'm 22, they are done paying for me. Oh, because my parents have some money, I get to borow it all, but little Jimmy, who's parents don't make as much, gets free money so he'll owe less when he graduates. HOW THE HELL does that make any sense? We are both Temple doctors and have the same ability to pay of loans. Why does Jimmy get to graduate with fewer loans? It's all just a system designed to screw anybody whose PARENTS have some money. They just expect your parents to pay for the medical school now. What a crock. Devoid of any cogent thought. If I can afford to pay off $200,000 in loans, so can JIMMY, no matter HOW MUCH MONEY his parents have.
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Not to attack you or anything, but what do you think the solution should be? Distribute the little funds they have equally among all students or simply not give any aid at all? Using your parents' info isn't a perfect way of distributing funds, but what else can they use? If they just use the students' financial info, then we'd all look dirt poor.
 
I know its frustrating to be in the middle. As I am there with you. But someone pointed out to me that those who receive aid usually are not only independent of parental support but are also supporting their parents. When you think about it that way, it seems much more fair.
 
poohbear12345 said:
I know its frustrating to be in the middle. As I am there with you. But someone pointed out to me that those who receive aid usually are not only independent of parental support but are also supporting their parents. When you think about it that way, it seems much more fair.
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Again..... If i can be told to borrow $250,000 to go to Medical School, because I will be a doctor and can afford to pay it back, then so can somebody whose parents don't have a lot. It's a really simple concept. But... You have to remember, it's all about social engineering. That is what colleges do.

How about this.... When they ask your parents assets, they dont even ask about pensions. Lets say parent A is a teacher... They make $80,000. meanwhile parent B is an accountant who makes $125,000. Oh... We gotta give the kid from the teacher $20,000 a year. The kid from the accountant doesnt need any money. But wait... What did they forget? The pension! The teacher will get a pension that the accountant has to save $1 million to match. Oppssss.... Forgot that! But who cares... The social engineering makes the financial people feel good.
 
Dude, you're preaching to the choir about how much student loans suck. If you liked enough to come here anyway, cool. If some other school you liked gave you money, that's cool, too. Go there and don't look back. No one here can do anything about it. What do you expect us to tell you?

Chill, bro, you got into medical school!
 
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chicosuave said:
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where are you guys seeing the financial aid?
i found the links on the deposit tab, made a TUportal login, but my award and all of that is no where to be found, not even the general stafford loans and such.
hope i didn't do anything wrong haha

also, cost of attendance 29,000? give me a break...

finally, do you guys still have required submissions like your enrollment verification, and have you sent in your tax transcripts?
 
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notreallysure said:
where are you guys seeing the financial aid?
i found the links on the deposit tab, made a TUportal login, but my award and all of that is no where to be found, not even the general stafford loans and such.
hope i didn't do anything wrong haha

also, cost of attendance 29,000? give me a break...

finally, do you guys still have required submissions like your enrollment verification, and have you sent in your tax transcripts?
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No idea what's going on on TUportal either. At first I was like 29k? Sweet! Then I realized nothing makes sense on the site. I think it thinks we're currently enrolled as grad (not med) students? I mean, we can't possibly fill out the grad student enrollment verification sheet, which supposedly is an unmet requirement. In any case, I didn't find anything useful about fin aid awards on there.
 
jesse120 said:
No idea what's going on on TUportal either. At first I was like 29k? Sweet! Then I realized nothing makes sense on the site. I think it thinks we're currently enrolled as grad (not med) students? I mean, we can't possibly fill out the grad student enrollment verification sheet, which supposedly is an unmet requirement. In any case, I didn't find anything useful about fin aid awards on there.
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The financial aid people were beyond helpful to me when I called a couple weeks ago. She helped me set up my login and told me that she wasn't sure what they'd actually have in there for us at this point. It sounds like they still have to go through and change what we're able to access.

She told me we would be filling out that grad enrollment sheet eventually and told me I should do the entrance counseling on studentloans.gov now
 
tilton said:
The financial aid people were beyond helpful to me when I called a couple weeks ago. She helped me set up my login and told me that she wasn't sure what they'd actually have in there for us at this point. It sounds like they still have to go through and change what we're able to access.

She told me we would be filling out that grad enrollment sheet eventually and told me I should do the entrance counseling on studentloans.gov now
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Thanks for the info 👍
 
Accepted! Correspondence sent today, got the email just now. Interviewed around march 13th.
 
accepted off the waitlist? would you mind sharing your stats? 🙂
 
Aliko said:
accepted off the waitlist? would you mind sharing your stats? 🙂
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not off the waitlist, but it did take 5 weeks to hear back even though we were told to expect 3.
3.62 & 36 in state
 
Does "Continuing Candidates" = "Waitlist"? Also, might anyone be able to provide some insight on how much movement this list usually has?
 
Can anyone find the list of where first years live on TempleMedOnline?
 
helloitsmee said:
Does "Continuing Candidates" = "Waitlist"? Also, might anyone be able to provide some insight on how much movement this list usually has?
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Yes it means waitlist. No idea how much movement because ranks are not disclosed if there even is a rank. My guess is that there is not much movement because of the number of applicants on the list.

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Does anyone find it weird that the continuing candidates list letter makes it sound really promising? like it says congratulations three times as if its a good thing
 
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