2012-2013 University of Vermont Application Thread

[wanderedtoolong]

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a friend of mine got his acceptance via pigeon post

pigeons? I had assumed that owls were the birds of choice these days

 

[pisadeliveryman]

any idea when the next round of acceptance will go out?

 

[MeGoodManIThink]

any idea when the next round of acceptance will go out?

I believe the next committee meets near April 18thish...which means around there or after

 

[AFPremed]

I believe the next committee meets near April 18thish...which means around there or after

Here's hoping it doesn't take that long for the waitlist to start moving, I'll probably have broken the refresh button on the online applicant center by then.

 

[wanderedtoolong]

Here's hoping it doesn't take that long for the waitlist to start moving, I'll probably have broken the refresh button on the online applicant center by then.

yeah, I'm still curious as to whether we're all on a true waitlist now, or whether they still have acceptances to offer besides seats that are vacated by withdrawals

 

[NMonte82]

yeah, I'm still curious as to whether we're all on a true waitlist now, or whether they still have acceptances to offer besides seats that are vacated by withdrawals

They still have acceptances.

 

[wanderedtoolong]

They still have acceptances.

good to know, thanks! any idea whether they've made any offers recently? or what this "new notification system" might be? email is fine with, me if they want to just do it that way 😉

 

[snaq]

any idea when the april admissions committee meeting will be?

I had an interview today and they said that they're meeting on april 15th and we won't see a change before then

 

[pisadeliveryman]

hoping april 25th brings good news.

 

[Marlie28]

good to know, thanks! any idea whether they've made any offers recently? or what this "new notification system" might be? email is fine with, me if they want to just do it that way 😉

If I were an admissions committee (and obviously I am not), I would finish all the interviews, rank everybody who hadn't yet been rejected, and then start giving out acceptances. I know they say they don't rank people on the wait list, but I can't think of a way to handle 50-100 people on a wait list without some sort of order... (the 50-100 is conjecture btw, as is the rest of my comment)

 

[NekoBeats]

If I were an admissions committee (and obviously I am not), I would finish all the interviews, rank everybody who hadn't yet been rejected, and then start giving out acceptances. I know they say they don't rank people on the wait list, but I can't think of a way to handle 50-100 people on a wait list without some sort of order... (the 50-100 is conjecture btw, as is the rest of my comment)

If they don't rank people on the wait list, then how on earth do they decide who to pull off? And if the waitlist is unranked, then does sending additional LOR's or LOI's even help?

 

[Marlie28]

That's what I had heard but I'm not sure where - maybe here in last year's thread? I think I had read that people seem to be taken off of the wait list at random or at the discretion of somebody in particular. I just can't figure out how that can be the case though. I think they must have some sort of order and they are waiting to move until the interviews are all done.

 

[Marlie28]

I wonder if any admissions people look at these threads. It would probably be pretty funny to them how neurotic we are.

 

[wanderedtoolong]

ha we are neurotic- I just can't understand why nobody on here has gotten in since November. Two committee meetings have come and gone with no reported acceptances!

 

[NekoBeats]

That's what I had heard but I'm not sure where - maybe here in last year's thread? I think I had read that people seem to be taken off of the wait list at random or at the discretion of somebody in particular. I just can't figure out how that can be the case though. I think they must have some sort of order and they are waiting to move until the interviews are all done.

Oh okay. Yeah, I read that there is a particular person that chooses who gets accepted off of the waitlist. Maybe that person just reads through files...and picks those that are stand-out. I have no idea. But waiting until the interviews are done until real WL movement occurs makes sense. It seems like not many acceptances have even been given out? Most people seem to be WL'd..makes me wonder how big the WL is

 

[NMonte82]

If they don't rank people on the wait list, then how on earth do they decide who to pull off? And if the waitlist is unranked, then does sending additional LOR's or LOI's even help?

Waitlist is unranked, the only 'binning' that occurs is whether the applicant is IS or OOS.

Additional LOR's/LOI's are very important.

👍

 

[ChartaBona]

Going by the facebook page, it seems like at least half of the people that interviewed with me (back in October) got accepted to UVM. We were a very small group, however, so I'm not sure if you can infer much from this statistic.

 

[Jefe5]

So, I have been small pooled since August/September and am STILL waiting to hear anything from Vermont. My cousin attended and loved it there, so I would really like to go interview. Does anyone know if they accept additional letters of recommendation, or any news about when the last decisions on interviews will be? I have sent in multiple updates and letters of interest.

 

[nysegop]

Good luck, everyone! UVM is very hard to get into for OOS students.

 

[NMonte82]

Good luck, everyone! UVM is very hard to get into for OOS students.

Why do you say that?

 

[nysegop]

Why do you say that?

Class of 150. State legislature requires 100 to be instate (can be lower depending on how many instate applicants apply-usually around 80 apply in-state). That leaves maybe ~90 spots available for OOS students. UVM gets over 6,000 OOS applications. So yeah, competitive.

 

[pisadeliveryman]

i'm not sure were you got 150. the class size is around 110 or less previous years.

 

[nysegop]

i'm not sure were you got 150. the class size is around 110 or less previous years.

Probably fewer in-state applicants. Vermont has a declining youth population.

 

[LePoisson]

Class of 150. State legislature requires 100 to be instate (can be lower depending on how many instate applicants apply-usually around 80 apply in-state). That leaves maybe ~90 spots available for OOS students. UVM gets over 6,000 OOS applications. So yeah, competitive.

According to https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2012factstable1.pdf

the 2012 entering class of 112 matriculants included 34 in-state and 78 out-of-state. Probably varies a bit year-to-year.

Competitive, yes.

 

[nysegop]

According to https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2012factstable1.pdf

the 2012 entering class of 112 matriculants included 34 in-state and 78 out-of-state. Probably varies a bit year-to-year.

Competitive, yes.

Definitely varies, and the original legislative mandate was created ~10 years ago. Vermont's youth population is shrinking. The 100 in-state requirement is reduced based on the number of in-state applicants. Even if 100 in-state students apply, not all of them can be accepted (can you imagine 50 students with under a 3.5?). Getting in is easier as an in-state applicant, but it's still no breeze.

 

[NMonte82]

Class of 150. State legislature requires 100 to be instate (can be lower depending on how many instate applicants apply-usually around 80 apply in-state). That leaves maybe ~90 spots available for OOS students. UVM gets over 6,000 OOS applications. So yeah, competitive.

A few corrections:

1) The class size is 114 students per class +/- 1-2 places.
2) Each year approximately 30% of the class is made up of In-State students.
3) Ergo, ~70% of the student body at UVMCOM are from Out-Of-State.
4) In the class of 2016 we have 35 Native Vermonters and 79 Out of State Students.
5) This breaks down to 30.7% IS, 69.3% OOS.
6) These percentages vary by year. In recent years the split has been as large as 24.5% IS, 75.5% OOS.

All of this data is available on the school's website at: http://http://www.uvm.edu/medicine/admissions/?Page=classprofiles.html

More detailed info can be found in the newest version of the MSAR.

 

[nysegop]

A few corrections:

1) The class size is 114 students per class +/- 1-2 places.
2) Each year approximately 30% of the class is made up of In-State students.
3) Ergo, ~70% of the student body at UVMCOM are from Out-Of-State.
4) In the class of 2016 we have 35 Native Vermonters and 79 Out of State Students.
5) This breaks down to 30.7% IS, 69.3% OOS.
6) These percentages vary by year. In recent years the split has been as large as 24.5% IS, 75.5% OOS.

All of this data is available on the school's website at: http://http://www.uvm.edu/medicine/admissions/?Page=classprofiles.html

More detailed info can be found in the newest version of the MSAR.

Like I said, the demographics are changing rapidly in Vermont. At my high school we used to have ~1,000 students. Last year we had ~950. Next year the small freshman class will bring it down to about ~920. Additionally, many of the youths that Vermont have are leaving the state to seek work and school elsewhere. We call this here "the brain drain".

 

[mmmcdowe]

Definitely varies, and the original legislative mandate was created ~10 years ago. Vermont's youth population is shrinking. The 100 in-state requirement is reduced based on the number of in-state applicants. Even if 100 in-state students apply, not all of them can be accepted (can you imagine 50 students with under a 3.5?). Getting in is easier as an in-state applicant, but it's still no breeze.

What may be true for you as you are applying to undergrad may or may not apply equally to all graduate and professional programs.

 

[nysegop]

What may be true for you as you are applying to undergrad may or may not apply equally to all graduate and professional programs.

I'm talking specifically about the medical school. The undergraduate college hasn't had a class size of smaller than 500 students since the 1800's.
I think the data are from the year 2000. So it's pretty out dated. But, in summary, UVMCOM is a very difficult school to get into.

 

[NMonte82]

I'm talking specifically about the medical school. The undergraduate college hasn't had a class size of smaller than 500 students since the 1800's.

Like I said, the demographics are changing rapidly in Vermont. At my high school we used to have ~1,000 students. Last year we had ~950. Next year the small freshman class will bring it down to about ~920. Additionally, many of the youths that Vermont have are leaving the state to seek work and school elsewhere. We call this here "the brain drain".

The IS:OOS ratio is quite stable.

Entering Class of:
2008
28IS
87OOS
2009
34IS
80OOS
2010
30IS
84OOS
2011
35IS
79OOS
2012
35IS
79OOS

 

[nysegop]

The IS:OOS ratio is quite stable.

Entering Class of:
2008
28IS
87OOS
2009
34IS
80OOS
2010
30IS
84OOS
2011
35IS
79OOS
2012
35IS
79OOS

Which is good for instate applicants. If the youth population is going down but the number going to UVM is stable, more are getting accepted. In recent years only about 80 applicants were in-state (we're such a tiny state).

 

[NMonte82]

Which is good for instate applicants. If the youth population is going down but the number going to UVM is stable, more are getting accepted. In recent years only about 80 applicants were in-state (we're such a tiny state).

That is an inappropriate interpretation of the figures. Approximately the same number of IS students are being accepted as in the past. The percentage of IS applicants who matriculate may be transiently increased in certain years, but this has no bearing on the qualifications of the individual candidates nor the absolute number of issued IS acceptances.

However, this conversation is quickly becoming irrelevant. Bottom line: For IS & OOS applicants, UVMCOM is essentially no more (or less) difficult to gain acceptance to than any other US allopathic medical school. All are highly selective.

 

[wanderedtoolong]

That is an inappropriate interpretation of the figures. Approximately the same number of IS students are being accepted as in the past. The percentage of IS applicants who matriculate may be transiently increased in certain years, but this has no bearing on the qualifications of the individual candidates nor the absolute number of issued IS acceptances.

However, this conversation is quickly becoming irrelevant. Bottom line: For IS & OOS applicants, UVMCOM is essentially no more (or less) difficult to gain acceptance to than any other US allopathic medical school. All are highly selective.

yes. it's amusing when high school students post in pre-allo forums.

let's get back to wondering when the next acceptances will go out .. .

 

[NMonte82]

yes. it's amusing when high school students post in pre-allo forums.

let's get back to wondering when the next acceptances will go out .. .

HS? I was trolled. Sorry folks.

 

[pisadeliveryman]

did anyone who interviewed after february 25th get reviewed at the MArch meeting?

 

[nysegop]

HS? I was trolled. Sorry folks.

Yes it's difficult for both IS and OOS to get into, but still much easier to get into for IS. Let's do the math:
35/80=.4375
=43.75% accepted
OOS
100/6000
=1.66% Accepted

In terms of being "trolled" by a high school student, how can you not see that it clearly says "hSDN" on under my profile information to the side of the post?

What are your least favorite and most favorite things about UVM? It doesn't have to be restricted to the medical college.


For me:

Pros - Faculty and people, facilities, Burlington (off-campus dining), Vermont
Cons - Weather, lack of diversity on the campus (though the medical school is probably different), tuition

 

[GreyEarl]

Yes it's difficult for both IS and OOS to get into, but still much easier to get into for IS. Let's do the math:
35/80=.4375
=43.75% accepted
OOS
100/6000
=1.66% Accepted

In terms of being "trolled" by a high school student, how can you not see that it clearly says "hSDN" on under my profile information to the side of the post?

What are your least favorite and most favorite things about UVM? It doesn't have to be restricted to the medical college.


For me:

Pros - Faculty and people, facilities, Burlington (off-campus dining), Vermont
Cons - Weather, lack of diversity on the campus (though the medical school is probably different), tuition

I think you might be looking at matriculated/applied instead of accepted/applied, but the numbers are still pretty similar according to this. http://www.medicalschoolsinusa.com/university-of-vermont-college-of-medicine/

 

[nysegop]

I think you might be looking at matriculated/applied instead of accepted/applied, but the numbers are still pretty similar according to this. http://www.medicalschoolsinusa.com/university-of-vermont-college-of-medicine/

True, 46% accepted in-state.

What do you like about VT?

 

[Haerts]

Hey everyone,

I interviewed and was placed on the OOS waitlist. I loved the school and would definitely go if accepted, but I am considering deferring as I am a little burned out at the moment. I would like to get my head in the right place before jumping into med school (I'm sure some of you know what I mean).

tl;dr: Does anyone know if UVM allows deferrals?

Thanks for any info!

 

[nysegop]

Hey everyone,

I interviewed and was placed on the OOS waitlist. I loved the school and would definitely go if accepted, but I am considering deferring as I am a little burned out at the moment. I would like to get my head in the right place before jumping into med school (I'm sure some of you know what I mean).

tl;dr: Does anyone know if UVM allows deferrals?

Thanks for any info!

From the website:
"Accepted applicants may defer their matriculation for one year if approved by the College of Medicine."

 

[DrMarty]

Hey All. For those that have been accepted, join the FB group!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/493731874002505/

 

[pisadeliveryman]

anyone interview in february and not get a decision (site says to be reviewed by committee)? thanks

 

[wanderedtoolong]

anyone interview in february and not get a decision (site says to be reviewed by committee)? thanks

dude, I think you've asked this 5 times- just call them tomorrow and ask if you've been reviewed.

 

[AllIn416]

how is the oos waitlist movement here?

 

[484511]

No movement yet this year (it seems)

 

[riversickle125]

Is anybody that's in Small Pool Purgatory still holding out any hope, or are the interview invitations for the season done?

 

[Jefe5]

Is anybody that's in Small Pool Purgatory still holding out any hope, or are the interview invitations for the season done?

I'm still hoping. Until I get that rejection e-mail there's still hope!

 

[NMonte82]

Is anybody that's in Small Pool Purgatory still holding out any hope, or are the interview invitations for the season done?

Interview invites may or may not be complete, but as far as I know, the last interview date for this year is April 11th.

 

[nysegop]

Interview invites may or may not be complete, but as far as I know, the last interview date for this year is April 11th.

I will be at Fletcher Allen on the 11th 🙂

 

[hjb]

During my interview, my interviewer explicitly told me there is a sort of ranking on the waitlist. He said he had been on the committee for a while (older person). He said the applicant gets a score for the application and a score for the interview. Those two are added up. He said the composite score is the largest determinate of when the applicant is taken off the waitlist.