2015-2016 New York University Application Thread

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carolina910 said:
II just now! I'm so excited!!! (Complete 7/18, LizzyM 75).

I want to apply to the 3-year pathway as well, but I'm a little confused about how that works. On the website (and in the interview e-mail) it says you have to be accepted to the 4-year MD program before being considered for the 3-year program. On the application site though, I can clearly access and submit the tertiary application right now. Is there any advantage to submitting it now?

Thanks!
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No actually I don't think you're supposed to. For my year at least you had to be accepted and then the 3 year pathway applications would open. You can also apply during the end of your first year now.
 
LuciusVorenus said:
For those of you interviewing right now sorry your tours of the anatomy lab are when we decided to dissect the butt...
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Any chance you could talk about your time at NYU thus far? How you like it, what you like most/least? Thanks
 
BurghMed said:
Any chance you could talk about your time at NYU thus far? How you like it, what you like most/least? Thanks
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Sure! What about it? I mean in terms of the school itself it was a surprise how much attention you get from the faculty to make sure that you're happy. I went to a big public school so that was a BIG deal for me. I haven't done rotations yet so I can't talk too much about that part but preclinicals I can answer any questions about.

This is gonna sound dumb but what I like least is that I have to walk to Park to get to a subway stop. I guess there's the free shuttle...
 
LuciusVorenus said:
Sure! What about it? I mean in terms of the school itself it was a surprise how much attention you get from the faculty to make sure that you're happy. I went to a big public school so that was a BIG deal for me. I haven't done rotations yet so I can't talk too much about that part but preclinicals I can answer any questions about.

This is gonna sound dumb but what I like least is that I have to walk to Park to get to a subway stop. I guess there's the free shuttle...
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That's great to hear. I just recently interviewed here and liked it a lot, got some great input from some students. How did you like the housing (Vilcek?) and being in midtown?

Do professors tend to teach to their strengths and give you material that you feel is unnecessarily overwhelming, or do they do a good job of dumbing things down?

How close is your class? Do students share materials willingly and are collaborative?

Thanks a ton!
 
Are they receptive to ITA emails (sorry if this has already been asked, don't want to scroll through the 6 pages)?
 
BurghMed said:
That's great to hear. I just recently interviewed here and liked it a lot, got some great input from some students. How did you like the housing (Vilcek?) and being in midtown?

Do professors tend to teach to their strengths and give you material that you feel is unnecessarily overwhelming, or do they do a good job of dumbing things down?

How close is your class? Do students share materials willingly and are collaborative?

Thanks a ton!
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Housing in Vilcek is great but we only have two elevators for 25 floors so it's kinda of a bother during rush times. You get a great view though! And it's really nice being right across from Bellevue where you do most your rotations. Greenberg is much better now that electricity is free, the elevators are better, and it's across from Langone (where you have class for preclinicals). I would say a lot of first years live in Greenberg but then move to Vilcek since Vilcek has the gym and lounge. Vilcek also has a much better package and mail system since they hired an outside company for it. Midtown is ok I guess. Lots of grocery stores and bars and there's a free shuttle to the main NYU campus which is probably in a better spot - but then again being near the hospital is probably more important.

There's usually a course director for each unit in CFM and CPM that does a good job organizing things and making sure only relevant stuff is on the test but there are a lot of guest lecturers who might go too far into detail. Usually the course director fixes that though - for one test he went through a lecture and removed the irrelevant stuff from the guest lecture just to help us. If you stick to the lecture objectives (4 per lecture) you will usually know enough for the questions from that lecture on the test (4 per lecture). Some course directors are better than others (Cardio/Renal >> Pulm) but again most of these courses last for only a month so it's not that big of a deal.

In terms of overwhelming I would say NYU has a more overwhelming preclinical curriculum than most med schools. We do it in 1.5 years instead of 2 and there's actually very little removed - it's just in less time. For example we did all of extremities for anatomy in 5 days while most schools get 3 weeks from what I've heard. You usually do a unit every month and each unit has 2 tests so you have a test every 2 weeks. They do a good job of making sure you get your weekends though. So I wouldn't say the information we get is overwhelming because of how people teach, it's more that the time allotted makes it a little overwhelming at times (especially 2nd year). That said we never have a problem with low averages on our tests and to actually fail (we're strictly P/NP) you need to get below a 70 AND 2 SD below the mean which is like what...the bottom 1%...on your combined score from both tests for that unit. Our averages are usually in the low to mid 80s.

The advantage to this is that we get to finish core rotations in the middle of third year and take the boards then, which most people (even schools that don't do it that way) say is a huge plus. If someone has US News they can correct me but I think this last year's average broke 240. This also gives you the last half of 3rd year for research before you apply to residencies. You then get all of 4th year for sub-Is/electives/selectives/research/6-8 weeks off for interviewing.

Our class shares EVERYTHING on our Facebook group and I would say we're pretty close - even people from the previous years will share things. There are cliques that form in most schools but no one really is a dick or anything. You always have the one or two kids who participate a lot but that's in every school. People are usually always going out together within the class which is nice.
 
LuciusVorenus said:
Housing in Vilcek is great but we only have two elevators for 25 floors so it's kinda of a bother during rush times. You get a great view though! And it's really nice being right across from Bellevue where you do most your rotations. Greenberg is much better now that electricity is free, the elevators are better, and it's across from Langone (where you have class for preclinicals). I would say a lot of first years live in Greenberg but then move to Vilcek since Vilcek has the gym and lounge. Vilcek also has a much better package and mail system since they hired an outside company for it. Midtown is ok I guess. Lots of grocery stores and bars and there's a free shuttle to the main NYU campus which is probably in a better spot - but then again being near the hospital is probably more important.

There's usually a course director for each unit in CFM and CPM that does a good job organizing things and making sure only relevant stuff is on the test but there are a lot of guest lecturers who might go too far into detail. Usually the course director fixes that though - for one test he went through a lecture and removed the irrelevant stuff from the guest lecture just to help us. If you stick to the lecture objectives (4 per lecture) you will usually know enough for the questions from that lecture on the test (4 per lecture). Some course directors are better than others (Cardio/Renal >> Pulm) but again most of these courses last for only a month so it's not that big of a deal.

In terms of overwhelming I would say NYU has a more overwhelming preclinical curriculum than most med schools. We do it in 1.5 years instead of 2 and there's actually very little removed - it's just in less time. For example we did all of extremities for anatomy in 5 days while most schools get 3 weeks from what I've heard. You usually do a unit every month and each unit has 2 tests so you have a test every 2 weeks. They do a good job of making sure you get your weekends though. So I wouldn't say the information we get is overwhelming because of how people teach, it's more that the time allotted makes it a little overwhelming at times (especially 2nd year). That said we never have a problem with low averages on our tests and to actually fail (we're strictly P/NP) you need to get below a 70 AND 2 SD below the mean which is like what...the bottom 1%...on your combined score from both tests for that unit. Our averages are usually in the low to mid 80s.

The advantage to this is that we get to finish core rotations in the middle of third year and take the boards then, which most people (even schools that don't do it that way) say is a huge plus. If someone has US News they can correct me but I think this last year's average broke 240. This also gives you the last half of 3rd year for research before you apply to residencies. You then get all of 4th year for sub-Is/electives/selectives/research/6-8 weeks off for interviewing.

Our class shares EVERYTHING on our Facebook group and I would say we're pretty close - even people from the previous years will share things. There are cliques that form in most schools but no one really is a dick or anything. You always have the one or two kids who participate a lot but that's in every school. People are usually always going out together within the class which is nice.
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Wow, thank you so much for all the advice. I literally can't even imagine repaying you for that. It's great to here that the class and even previous classes is close and willing to share material, and that the faculty/course director are responsive and good at removing unnecessary fluff. I heard a student mention how great it was to get into clinic before step 1 because he learned so much of the clinical application of medicine, which is fantastic. Tests every 2 weeks sounds extreme, but at least it makes you keep up with the material and not fall too behind?

Ahhh so below a 70 AND 2 SD below the mean, makes sense, good to know its not just below a 70 haha. I'm sure the class is incredibly, incredibly bright, but the fact that people work together is so wonderful to hear. Thanks!!!!
 
BurghMed said:
Wow, thank you so much for all the advice. I literally can't even imagine repaying you for that. It's great to here that the class and even previous classes is close and willing to share material, and that the faculty/course director are responsive and good at removing unnecessary fluff. I heard a student mention how great it was to get into clinic before step 1 because he learned so much of the clinical application of medicine, which is fantastic. Tests every 2 weeks sounds extreme, but at least it makes you keep up with the material and not fall too behind?

Ahhh so below a 70 AND 2 SD below the mean, makes sense, good to know its not just below a 70 haha. I'm sure the class is incredibly, incredibly bright, but the fact that people work together is so wonderful to hear. Thanks!!!!
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You're welcome 🙂 Let me know if you have any more questions!
 
Can a current student describe the primary teaching styles employed here (i.e., percentage that is lecture vs. small group)?
 
Speaking of the teaching style... do you think it's worth it to take them up on sitting in on a class in the morning?
 
justadream said:
Can a current student describe the primary teaching styles employed here (i.e., percentage that is lecture vs. small group)?
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We have lecture almost every single day and basically all of the information that is going to be on the test is presented in lecture (these are recorded and put up maybe an hour after they happen so attendance is not mandatory the majority of the time). Every week - depending on the unit - we also have one to three case studies. Usually these are cases that are used to solidify the material that was presented in lecture and are done in small group formats (10-12 kids). Attendance is usually mandatory for these.

TheVirg said:
Speaking of the teaching style... do you think it's worth it to take them up on sitting in on a class in the morning?
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I mean you could get a feel of how lecturers present information to students but it's just a lecture nothing more.
 
Some other random info I wish I knew when I was applying:

Most of your rotations are done at Tisch, Bellevue (the oldest public hospital in the country and one of the few who'll treat literally anyone who walks in), and the VA. They're on 33rd, 26th, and 23rd so you never have to go far. But there's also Rusk Rehabilitation and the Hospital for Joint Diseases which are part of NYU Langone and are some of the highest ranked in their specialties. They just acquired Lutheran in Brooklyn too and there's a free ferry that shuttles employees there. But maybe most importantly - they're building a brand new peds hospital right next door to Tisch called Hassenfeld. It's supposed to be done in 2017 so I doubt I'll spend any time in it but you guys might!

There are a lot of clubs that let you do hands on things during your first year (vaccinating with the hepatitis project, learning to suture with the critical care club) but the most important is probably NYC free clinic near Union Square. Free clinic is a huge deal at NYU. Basically each patient is seen by a first or second year medical student alongside a 3rd or 4th year medical student. The two students do all the interviewing and examination and then present the patient to the residents, fellows, and attendings there at the time. Depending on how comfortable the older student is with you, you can actually do a lot just in your first month of medical school. First years do interviews, patient education, oral presentations, physical exams and blood draws alongside the older student, and even pelvic exams and pap smears alongside the resident or fellow. You also get to observe a whole bunch of other procedures. Doing free clinic makes OSCEs SO much easier.
 
Can uploading multiple updates pre-II hurt anything at schools like NYU where they give you a space to do so?

This school would be a dream and I believe I am a good fit. Unfortunately, no love thus far, but I have at least two fairly significant updates (accepted first author paper, award). Unfortunately, I have already submitted one update at the end of the summer. Please refrain from bashing me for being an idiot and not waiting to provide update 1.
Thanks for the advice
 
omnxbeast said:
Can uploading multiple updates pre-II hurt anything at schools like NYU where they give you a space to do so?

This school would be a dream and I believe I am a good fit. Unfortunately, no love thus far, but I have at least two fairly significant updates (accepted first author paper, award). Unfortunately, I have already submitted one update at the end of the summer. Please refrain from bashing me for being an idiot and not waiting to provide update 1.
Thanks for the advice
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send it. this is not the time to worry what other people think of you
 
Complete early July. Safe to say I'm passed over?
 
Interviewed here two weeks ago and there's a tab on my secondary that says "waitlisted" with a green checkmark- does anyone else see that?
 
I interviewed this month and see it too. Did you call the admissions office and ask them what it's about?
 
I wanted to but, it says "
Should I call the office to inquire about my status (i.e. AMCAS application, secondary application, letters of recommendation, etc.)?
No. Our office will notify you via e-mail with the status of your application. You will also be able to check your status online."
in FAQs, but it seems way too early to get any type of status change right?
 
I hope so 🙁, who knows maybe they already quantified our MMI/academic scores and sorted. Anyone else who interviewed see the waitlist tab in the online portal?
 
I interviewed a couple of weeks ago as well, but I don't see any waitlist tab.
 
You don't see this?
 

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