2015-2016 University of Pennsylvania (Perelman) Application Thread

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@AgentQuestion I'm a newly minted MS1 at Penn (still feels weird to say that...), so I'll give a newbies perspective. There are so many opportunities for community involvement at Penn, it can be overwhelming. If you are into free clinics, there are a number of them, serving the different underserved populations in Philly. They vary in terms of the role you play (more vs. less autonomy), whether they are student led or resident/attending led etc.

There are multiple certificates you can get that have large community service involvement (2 community health ones, women's health, global health) as well as a bridging the gaps service opportunity. There is outreach to the indigent through CHOP, the list goes on and on (here is a good site with overviews of some of the things available at Penn: http://www.med.upenn.edu/student/educational.shtml)

As far as institutional/faculty support: it is out of this world. Classes haven't started yet and we are already hearing about orientations and information sessions for the community outreach opportunities.

As you can tell, I'm thrilled to be at Penn. Some of the reasons I chose it are (in no particular order of importance):
1) The people: the faculty are obviously top-notch, but they also came across as really approachable and friendly
2) My class: one of the most talented, fun and dynamic groups I've met.
3) Facilities: CHOP (arguable the best children's hospital), HUP, the VA: lot's of great training sites. Plus a shiny new medical school
4) 1.5 year preclinical curriculum: getting to the good stuff faster.
5) Insane board scores (apparently the Penn average is the best in the country)
6) Consistently solid residency placements in the geographic region I am interested in.
7) Philadelphia is a fantastic city. Great places to eat, BYOB, and reasonably affordable
8) An institution that supports whatever you are interested in, medically related or not. I know that if I want to do business, or any type of research, or global health, or whatever, Penn can make it happen.

Hope that's helpful, and to anybody else who has questions, don't hesitate to ask!
 
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@AgentQuestion I'm a newly minted MS1 at Penn (still feels weird to say that...), so I'll give a newbies perspective. There are so many opportunities for community involvement at Penn, it can be overwhelming. If you are into free clinics, there are a number of them, serving the different underserved populations in Philly. They vary in terms of the role you play (more vs. less autonomy), whether they are student led or resident/attending led etc.

There are multiple certificates you can get that have large community service involvement (2 community health ones, women's health, global health) as well as a bridging the gaps service opportunity. There is outreach to the indigent through CHOP, the list goes on and on (here is a good site with overviews of some of the things available at Penn: http://www.med.upenn.edu/student/educational.shtml)

As far as institutional/faculty support: it is out of this world. Classes haven't started yet and we are already hearing about orientations and information sessions for the community outreach opportunities.

As you can tell, I'm thrilled to be at Penn. Some of the reasons I chose it are (in no particular order of importance):
1) The people: the faculty are obviously top-notch, but they also came across as really approachable and friendly
2) My class: one of the most talented, fun and dynamic groups I've met.
3) Facilities: CHOP (arguable the best children's hospital), HUP, the VA: lot's of great training sites. Plus a shiny new medical school
4) 1.5 year preclinical curriculum: getting to the good stuff faster.
5) Insane board scores (apparently the Penn average is the best in the country)
6) Consistently solid residency placements in the geographic region I am interested in.
7) Philadelphia is a fantastic city. Great places to eat, BYOB, and reasonably affordable
8) An institution that supports whatever you are interested in, medically related or not. I know that if I want to do business, or any type of research, or global health, or whatever, Penn can make it happen.

Hope that's helpful, and to anybody else who has questions, don't hesitate to ask!
I just want to get in now, accept, and be done with interview season...
 
how focused on numbers is upenn? my gpa/mcat are below their median (but above their 10th percentile) but I think I have some good ECs
 
how focused on numbers is upenn? my gpa/mcat are below their median (but above their 10th percentile) but I think I have some good ECs
You'll definitely get a holistic review. I know people in my class with all ranges of numbers. Just remember Penn is a competitive school to get into
 
For Q8 on the secondary, would it be appropriate/viewed upon favorably to admit one of the reasons you're interested in Penn is because its in Philly-->rich in culture and history. Isn't everyone going to be saying the same sorts of things in this type of essay Q if they've researched the school?
 
For Q8 on the secondary, would it be appropriate/viewed upon favorably to admit one of the reasons you're interested in Penn is because its in Philly-->rich in culture and history. Isn't everyone going to be saying the same sorts of things in this type of essay Q if they've researched the school?

Mm, I tend not to talk about the area in my "why x" essays...not sure about other people though. Instead, I talk about like "oh i'm interested in (insert something here) because of my previous involvement in xyz and etc" That way, you relate back to your own experiences and how it fits with a particular school (but note, this is not a time to show off your achievements because thats what your primary is for).
 
For Q8 on the secondary, would it be appropriate/viewed upon favorably to admit one of the reasons you're interested in Penn is because its in Philly-->rich in culture and history. Isn't everyone going to be saying the same sorts of things in this type of essay Q if they've researched the school?
Everyone is bound to say different things because everyone is interested in Penn for different reasons. They have hundreds --if not thousands-- of different opportunities for their students in research, global health, mentoring, student organizations, etc...
I did the same thing as @pineapplecake
 
For Q8 on the secondary, would it be appropriate/viewed upon favorably to admit one of the reasons you're interested in Penn is because its in Philly-->rich in culture and history. Isn't everyone going to be saying the same sorts of things in this type of essay Q if they've researched the school?

Mm, I tend not to talk about the area in my "why x" essays...not sure about other people though. Instead, I talk about like "oh i'm interested in (insert something here) because of my previous involvement in xyz and etc" That way, you relate back to your own experiences and how it fits with a particular school (but note, this is not a time to show off your achievements because thats what your primary is for).

This is a good answer to your question. Especially when you have such a small character limit and the prompt says "Why Penn?", you don't want to answer Why Philly?, because that might set the adcom to wonder why you don't just apply or go to Temple, Drexel, Jefferson. I think the best way to get around this is to mention Penn's free clinics, student organizations, and academic programs etc, especially if you're interested in, say, a music organization that would let you perform in Philly, because then you're showing interest in Penn but also referring to the rich culture of Philly.
 
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His is a good answer to your question. Especially when you have such a small character limit and the prompt says "Why Penn?", you don't want to answer Why Philly?, because that might set the adcom to wonder why you don't just apply or go to Temple, Drexel, Jefferson. I think the best way to get around this is to mention Penn's free clinics, student organizations, and academic programs etc, especially if you're interested in, say, a music organization that would let you perform in Philly, because then you're showing interest in Penn but also referring to the rich culture of Philly.

*Her's or *this but yes, I agree~ being very specific about what the school has to offer is always good!
 
@popcorn225 Are there many opportunities for community involvement or community service? Is it encouraged/supported by the school and faculty or something students must pursue on their own? I'm having trouble finding much info on the website...
Besides research, what made you choose Penn?
Thanks for the help!

@AgentQuestion Sorry for the late reply! First week of medical school has been a whirlwind so far to say the least. @QuantumFlame already said it much better than I possibly could have, and I couldn't agree more, but just to reiterate some of the key points - Penn doesn't just encourage community involvement, they make it a part of everything they do. Penn Preview for accepted students in April involved a community service experience. They made sure we knew about next week's community outreach info session before I even knew what classes I would be taking this week. A huge percentage of students get involved in community outreach, and I've heard nothing but positive experiences. Apart from involvement in the Philadelphia community, it's day 2 of medical school and we've already been informed of multiple opportunities for leadership positions within Medical Student Government, the Program for Diversity and Inclusion, etc. that I can apply to be a part of right now. Penn makes it a big priority to provide students with as many opportunities as possible starting the second you step foot on campus, and beyond that, they're unbelievably open and receptive to student feedback and input. If there's something that you think is missing or that they're not providing, they're willing to do what they can to meet that need. I'll inevitably have more to share as I spend more time at Penn and in Philly (I've only been here two weeks?!?), but I can confidently say that orientation and the first couple days of classes have done nothing but exceed my expectations every step of the way. Hope this helps!
 
@AgentQuestion Sorry for the late reply! First week of medical school has been a whirlwind so far to say the least. @QuantumFlame already said it much better than I possibly could have, and I couldn't agree more, but just to reiterate some of the key points - Penn doesn't just encourage community involvement, they make it a part of everything they do. Penn Preview for accepted students in April involved a community service experience. They made sure we knew about next week's community outreach info session before I even knew what classes I would be taking this week. A huge percentage of students get involved in community outreach, and I've heard nothing but positive experiences. Apart from involvement in the Philadelphia community, it's day 2 of medical school and we've already been informed of multiple opportunities for leadership positions within Medical Student Government, the Program for Diversity and Inclusion, etc. that I can apply to be a part of right now. Penn makes it a big priority to provide students with as many opportunities as possible starting the second you step foot on campus, and beyond that, they're unbelievably open and receptive to student feedback and input. If there's something that you think is missing or that they're not providing, they're willing to do what they can to meet that need. I'll inevitably have more to share as I spend more time at Penn and in Philly (I've only been here two weeks?!?), but I can confidently say that orientation and the first couple days of classes have done nothing but exceed my expectations every step of the way. Hope this helps!
Thank you for the reply! My stats are a bit low for Penn but I think it is a school I would really enjoy going to. Gonna give it a shot!
 
Congrats everybody! Great news on a Monday 🙂
would any of you mind sharing stats?
 
question. regarding awards from a state, regional or national organization... Would a recognition for outstanding research from an ivy college be considered as an award from a state/national organization? Or does it refer only to public organizations... (e.g. the Association of xxxxxxx)
 
question. regarding awards from a state, regional or national organization... Would a recognition for outstanding research from an ivy college be considered as an award from a state/national organization? Or does it refer only to public organizations... (e.g. the Association of xxxxxxx)
I highly doubt it means awards from a college, Ivy-league or otherwise.
 
question. regarding awards from a state, regional or national organization... Would a recognition for outstanding research from an ivy college be considered as an award from a state/national organization? Or does it refer only to public organizations... (e.g. the Association of xxxxxxx)
When I called asking about something sort of related, the person who answered told me that they did not want anything school-specific or issued by one's institution. So I'd say no. Congratulations, though!
 
When I called asking about something sort of related, the person who answered told me that they did not want anything school-specific or issued by one's institution. So I'd say no. Congratulations, though!
Well crap... Hopefully they won't be mad at me for putting a departmental award 🙁
 
Well crap... Hopefully they won't be mad at me for putting a departmental award 🙁
They green-lighted an award from my fraternity's national organization. I have trouble imagining it moving the needle much. Plus you already did it I guess so now you just have to own it. If you get lucky enough for it to be an issue during an interview, I'm sure talking about how important it is to you/whatever your reasoning was wouldn't be that big of a problem.

Regardless, here's to happy endings for all of us!
 
Well crap... Hopefully they won't be mad at me for putting a departmental award 🙁
They won't be mad, but you should take it as a lesson on reading directions. A school dept is obviously not a local/state/national organization.
 
They won't be mad, but you should take it as a lesson on reading directions. A school dept is obviously not a local/state/national organization.
Well my reasoning was that the school is a state organization. I will take it as a lesson on calling people to verify things if I'm not sure though.
 
Well my reasoning was that the school is a state organization. I will take it as a lesson on calling people to verify things if I'm not sure though.
Universities are not organizations in the classic sense of the world. Most of them are incorporated entities and their sources of funding determine our common conception of whether is a public, private, charter, etc. you can twist arms to make anything an organization, but schools aren't it. It's okay, all of us have tried to make something sound more impressive at one time or another 😉
 
My AMCAS was processed on July 27th, which is when I started receiving emails from all the schools I have applied to, except for Perelman. I haven't even received a confirmation that they received my application. Should I be concerned and try to email someone about this?
 
Did anyone have problem paying their application fee? I keep getting a "you are not authorized to view this page transcation not processed"
 
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Still waiting for a II myself. Completed my secondary last week of July.
 
Just received an II! Complete in late July.
II!!!!! super pumped! Complete in late July as well!
II!!!!!! Also complete in July 🙂

Congrats on the II's and good luck!! I received an II too last week. I was wondering, other school's so far have requested photos either before or after an II. Do you all remember having to send one in after the II? I am asking because I do not remember receiving that request after my II.
 
Looking forward to meeting you all on interview day!
 
II About an hour ago! Can't believe it! Absolute dream school! Looking forward to meeting you guys soon!
 
II About an hour ago! Can't believe it! Absolute dream school! Looking forward to meeting you guys soon!

Congrats!! My apologies for the double post above. I was invited last week. I don't quite remember an interview photo submission on mine like other schools, could you tell me if you received one after the II?
 
For the 6th secondary question ("Have you or your family experienced economic hardships?"), should we still answer the question if it was covered in other areas of our application? It doesn't say "not addressed elsewhere" as in question 4, but I'm afraid answering might be a bit repetitive and necessary.
 
For the 6th secondary question ("Have you or your family experienced economic hardships?"), should we still answer the question if it was covered in other areas of our application? It doesn't say "not addressed elsewhere" as in question 4, but I'm afraid answering might be a bit repetitive and necessary.

Yes but try to word it differently I think.

Congrats!! My apologies for the double post above. I was invited last week. I don't quite remember an interview photo submission on mine like other schools, could you tell me if you received one after the II?

No photo request in my invite.
 
Congrats!! My apologies for the double post above. I was invited last week. I don't quite remember an interview photo submission on mine like other schools, could you tell me if you received one after the II?

I did not
 
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