2015-2016 West Virginia University Application Thread

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What?! They're different tests. Someone who scores a 30 didn't compete with same testers as someone who scored a 508. They are different tests so the best you can do is to account for the overall percentiles. Someone who scored a 30 scored better than X% of testers on their test, and someone who scored a 508 scored better than X% of testers on theirs, which allows adcoms to "compare" tests without being skewed by the differences between them.

I think you're contradicting yourself by arguing that overall percentile ignores both the similarities and the differences...?

Someone who scored a 30 didn't compete with the same testers as someone else who scored a 30 on a different test date. I disagree that the best you can do is account for the overall percentiles.
 
Part of me is wondering if you're biased because you said you have a 35 but you have the percentile for a 32? In any case I have yet to see your argument made outside of this thread so I don't see it holding that much merit

I don't understand why the overall percentile ranking argument is automatically accepted by the masses when the masses don't know how admissions committees are going to compare old MCAT scores to new MCAT scores. I came up with my argument through my own common sense. It's not far-fetched at all. I took a physical sciences section, a verbal section, a biological sciences section, and the new section. That's 4 sections, 3 of which greatly overlap with the old exam. The individual section percentiles are still relevant regardless. A 99th percentile on a section is still 99th percentile.
 
Someone who scored a 30 didn't compete with the same testers as someone else who scored a 30 on a different test date. I disagree that the best you can do is account for the overall percentiles.
Edit: misread what you wrote. Someone who scored a 30 performed just as well as someone who scored a 30 on a different test date. I think you're misunderstanding how standardized tests are scored.

I don't understand why the overall percentile ranking argument is automatically accepted by the masses when the masses don't know how admissions committees are going to compare old MCAT scores to new MCAT scores.
We have an idea based on what every adcom on this forum has already stated.
 
I don't understand why the overall percentile ranking argument is automatically accepted by the masses when the masses don't know how admissions committees are going to compare old MCAT scores to new MCAT scores. I came up with my argument through my own common sense. It's not far-fetched at all.

We have an adcom member telling you that your idea of how it will be perceived is "wishful thinking"

I think that's as close as we'll get to a real answer
 
We have an adcom member telling you that your idea of how it will be perceived is "wishful thinking"

I think that's as close as we'll get to a real answer

The same adcom stated "In fact, my largest worry is that med schools will not know how to properly interpret the new scores". The closest we'll get is "we don't know".
 
"In fact, my largest worry is that med schools will not know how to properly interpret the new scores."
Is this from @Goro ? If so, my guess would be it's because adcoms previously took the bio section to be the most important and were largely forgiving of a lower verbal (assuming the other two sections were high and verbal was 8+). With the new test, 3/4 sections have biology on them. I'd assume that adcoms will still favor the bio/biochem section and be slightly forgiving of CARS, but what about the chem/physics section that also now has biochem? Does that weigh more heavily now, too? And what about an overall score that's slightly dropped because of the Psych section...how do adcoms interpret this overall score?

My point is that adcoms may not know everything about the subsections or how to interpret how each subsection affects an overall new score, but they can still compare overall percentiles. You're taking Goro's quote out of context to fit your own agenda.
 
We're smart enough to figure out what percentiles mean.

You said it yourself; you have no idea how they will interpret the scores. At least my reasoning is logical. I've taken (and done well on) both the old and new MCAT. There is significant overlap on the first three sections.


Even more wishful thinking. Is the new test suddenly "harder" simply because it has a new scoring rubric and one more subsection?
I'd argue a 508 on the new test should be weighted more heavily than a 30 on the old test, even if the overall percentile ranking is similar.

Yes. There';s no excuse for doing poorly in Bio, for example, and for a native English speaker to do poorly in VR is not a good sign, either.

Also, do you believe admissions committees will look at individual section scores/percentile rankings? If you believe they will look at them, wouldn't it make logical sense that an admissions officer could compare an old Bio section score to a new Bio section score? Or would they just throw their hands up in the air in confusion (as the new Bio section also has biochemistry) and go with the overall percentile ranking?

You're good to go!
Edit: Regardless of how they interpret it, I'm still 99th percentile on the Bio/Biochem section and 99th percentile on my graduate GPA. My overall MCAT percentile ranking could fluctuate from 89 to 96 depending on how they interpret it, but I suppose either way, when coupled with my grad GPA, I should be in good shape.
 
II!

I love this school and feel that I fit the mission well. I wanna interview sooner than November! The suspense is killing me.

Does anyone know how many people interview on a scheduled date?
 
II!

I love this school and feel that I fit the mission well. I wanna interview sooner than November! The suspense is killing me.

Does anyone know how many people interview on a scheduled date?
No idea, but the waitlist system is excellent!
 
Wow, so on the lower end (assuming 10 per day) that would be about 160 interviews per month. That seems like a little much.

I think it's a good thing they are giving more people a chance. We are all more than numbers and statistics. We need to reach a certain standard and our applications show we might be a match, so they give us a chance. The school really cares about the character and personalities that become part of the class.
 
Received my secondary this afternoon!! Last one 😀
 
Where are the interviews dates at now? when is the earliest available?

when i scheduled it a few days ago it was early november



just checked again now, now its mid november
 
*Apparently* there is a 2 week deadline for the secondaries and I just missed it by 1 day... I really hope this doesn't hurt my chances.
So if you are applying make sure you submit everything by *2 weeks*!
 
Secondary received and submitted within 24 hours! But i must say, their portal is terrible. How can i check my status?
 
*Apparently* there is a 2 week deadline for the secondaries and I just missed it by 1 day... I really hope this doesn't hurt my chances.
So if you are applying make sure you submit everything by *2 weeks*!

Apparently? I felt they were really clear about it...but i hope youre good to go! Good luck!
 
:diebanana:Got an email saying they are waiting for my second MCAT score smh thought it was a secondary at first
 
*Apparently* there is a 2 week deadline for the secondaries and I just missed it by 1 day... I really hope this doesn't hurt my chances.
So if you are applying make sure you submit everything by *2 weeks*!
You'll be fine! Judging from years past, it's just a rough goal for when to get it in.
 
Yep, definitely did not realize there was a 2 week deadline for the secondary. I'm an idiot that should read. Well, good luck everyone, one less person in the applicant pool. :boom:
 
Yep, definitely did not realize there was a 2 week deadline for the secondary. I'm an idiot that should read. Well, good luck everyone, one less person in the applicant pool. :boom:
Hey man, I would still try. How late are you?
 
Hey man, I would still try. How late are you?

I got the email today saying I am no longer welcome to submit the secondary. I don't want to risk paying the $100 and not have them consider it. It's ok, West Virginia wasn't high on my list or else I would have submitted it sooner. Whoopsies
 
what?? They said "you are no longer welcome to submit" ????!!!!

Eh not exactly, I paraphrased a bit but I'm sure that's what they meant. Their exact words were, "Since our records indicate that your secondary application is incomplete, we must withdraw our offer of a secondary application as your two week deadline for completion has passed."
 
Eh not exactly, I paraphrased a bit but I'm sure that's what they meant. Their exact words were, "Since our records indicate that your secondary application is incomplete, we must withdraw our offer of a secondary application as your two week deadline for completion has passed."

wow, that sucks... sorry 🙁
 
Their exact words were, "Since our records indicate that your secondary application is incomplete, we must withdraw our offer of a secondary application as your two week deadline for completion has passed."
They do take professionalism seriously. There are a couple of things first year that will get you a call to the Dean's office... not completing paperwork on time (they do give you a month usually - so it's not like it's last minute) is one of those things.
 
Oh well, I'll survive. Hopefully this serves as a warning for people who are nearing the deadline! This school does not mess around.

They do take professionalism seriously. There are a couple of things first year that will get you a call to the Dean's office... not completing paperwork on time (they do give you a month usually - so it's not like it's last minute) is one of those things.
 
how long did it take to receive a secondary? verified july 31st.
 
how long did it take to receive a secondary? verified july 31st.

Submitted primary July 31st, received secondary August 12th (also submitted on the 12th, I pre-wrote) and II this morning.
 
For those of you recieving secondaries and II's would you mind sharing your stats, ties to the state, EC's and such?
 
For those of you recieving secondaries and II's would you mind sharing your stats, ties to the state, EC's and such?

37 mcat 3.6gpa 3.49 sgpa EC: lots of research and community service. little bit clinical and shadowing. no ties to state

got II for MD as well as MD/PhD
 
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For those of you recieving secondaries and II's would you mind sharing your stats, ties to the state, EC's and such?

No ties. From rural PA. 3.73c/3.79s/31(11/8/11).

225 hours nursing student clinical hours
Thousands as a pharmacy tech

Hundreds of non-clinical volunteer hours, which serves the underserved.
 
For those of you recieving secondaries and II's would you mind sharing your stats, ties to the state, EC's and such?
No ties. 3.86 gpa/3.86 sgpa/32 MCAT

About 300 hrs healthcare related volunteering, around 1300 hrs patient exposure, and 2.5 years of research but no publications yet.
 
I haven't received anything for a week since sending my primary app. Should I email?
 
I haven't received anything for a week since sending my primary app. Should I email?
No, it is understandable you don't receive anything because they review your primary thoroughly before sending the secondary and getting a secondary is highly correlated to getting an interview. wait for 3-4 weeks.
 
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