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Hey guys! I’m a current M3 at Creighton SOM, and I thought I would make a list of common questions people often have.
Is there a preference for students from a particular state?
Does X class count for Y requirement?
How is life in Omaha?
What kind of impact does Creighton’s religious affiliation have on their medical education?
How are the interviews?
Will I get to see a diverse patient population?
Should I be worried if I’m interviewing late in the interview season?
What are my chances of getting in off the waitlist?
If you have any other questions, just message me! I love to help people out. I’m in and out of rotations all year, so I might take a bit to get back to you if I'm super busy. Unfortunately, I don't really have much time to go through secondaries, but just answer truthfully! I'm not sure how much the secondaries matter anyhow.
Is there a preference for students from a particular state?
- No. Creighton is a private school, so your state of residence doesn’t really factor into their admissions decisions.
Does X class count for Y requirement?
- If you have questions about whether you fulfill the course requirements, you should just call the admissions office. They are always happy to answer questions.
How is life in Omaha?
- Personally, I’ve loved Omaha. It’s just big enough to have plenty of things to do like bars, restaurants, clubs, concerts, sports, etc. The restaurant scene is particularly on point. But yet it’s still small enough to get from one end to the other in 20 minutes, which is a huge plus if you’re working in a clinic across town. Rent is very reasonable, around $500 per person in a 2BR downtown down to $300 per person in a house in midtown.
- The only cons most people talk about are the lack of outdoorsy things to do. It’s not a bike-friendly city, and there aren’t any mountains nearby. But there are a bunch of lakes, rivers, and nice places for camping. Plus, you can get from the center of downtown to the middle of nowhere in like 10 minutes, for all those people who crave a bit of country now and then.
- The weather is both good and bad. Winters are pretty cold, but there are random 60 degree days every few weeks through January and February, so there’s always a chance to get outside at some point. Fall and spring are beautiful and last for a full 3 months each (which was new to me, being from the Southwest). Summers are brutally hot and humid, but again the temperature dips down every couple of weeks, so you can get out on those days.
What kind of impact does Creighton’s religious affiliation have on their medical education?
- Creighton does not shy away from topics that might not be in line with the Jesuit tradition. We get complete and accurate lectures about reproductive health and contraception. However, Creighton facilities don’t perform certain procedures like abortions, vasectomies, or artificial inseminations. However, we still see a full range of treatments in OB/GYN. The doctors can provide birth control, tubal ligations, hysterectomies, etc.
- There are a couple of times when the Catholic affiliation comes to the surface. We had one lecture in Ethics class about the Jesuits’ position on various topics, but they were presented as one viewpoint among many.
- The biggest impact Creighton’s Jesuit affiliation has is the underlying attitude that runs through our entire education. Creighton emphasizes service to those in need, respect for each patient and student, and nurturing compassion in their future doctors. Our classes have a lot of emphasis on the social barriers to healthcare and how we can address them.
How are the interviews?
- Structure: two 30-minute interviews, one with a faculty and one with a student. The interviewers have access to anything you submitted to Creighton, including your AMCAS, but they may or may not have read it already.
- The interviews are very laid-back. They just need to be able to fill out a form asking about different types of experiences you may have. They will not be trying to trick you. During our training for interviewing, we are specifically told not to grill you.
Will I get to see a diverse patient population?
- YES. Though you might think of the Midwest as white-washed, Omaha is actually pretty diverse. Omaha is a destination for many refugees around the world, and we have significant populations from the Sudan, southeast Asia, and central America. In my time in clinic this past year, maybe one in six patients was white. There are Spanish-speaking clinic placements available if you want to work on your Spanish. No matter which placements you get, you'll get to see a diverse patient population.
Should I be worried if I’m interviewing late in the interview season?
- No. There are plenty of people in my class now who interviewed in February and March. There are still spots available at that point.
What are my chances of getting in off the waitlist?
- So 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 were bad years for the waitlist. The classes got overfilled, and I’m pretty sure no one got in off the list. BUT in 2015-2016, a ton of people got in off the list (probably because they were trying to make sure the classes didn’t get overfilled again). I don’t know what strategy they’ll be going with this year, but of the ~8 ish people I personally knew on the waitlist last year all got in.
If you have any other questions, just message me! I love to help people out. I’m in and out of rotations all year, so I might take a bit to get back to you if I'm super busy. Unfortunately, I don't really have much time to go through secondaries, but just answer truthfully! I'm not sure how much the secondaries matter anyhow.
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Definitely give omaha at least a few days visit if you're thinking seriously of coming here. I'm very familiar with the place and, in my opinion, there's little to do here. As @Rhizobium said, nothing outdoorsy, the bar scene / Old Market area is stale after a few weeks, winters are annoyingly long, no public transport, and generally very suburban feel everywhere. Restaurants are surprisingly good though for a midwestern town, housing is cheap, and the entire city is very low stress generally speaking (minus North O).
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I'm another Creighton person that can answer questions. I'm now a resident who opted to stay in Omaha, because frankly it's an awesome place to train. No Omaha is not LA or NY, but it's also not in the middle of nowhere. It's a medium sized city with plenty of things to do while also focusing on becoming a good clinician. The NCAA College World Series is happening right now with the US Olympic Swim Trials coming up in two weeks. The bar scene may get old to some people, but when your whole class is down in Old Market following a Monday exam, it's still a pretty fun time. My point is that the people you go to school with matter far more than the city you are in, and I wouldn't trade my classmates for any city. Omaha still has plenty of fun bars and more than enough stuff to do when you're not studying for whatever Step exam is next on the radar. Plus you have the added benefit as a medical student to experience the full spectrum of patients Omaha has to offer. I've loved my time in Omaha, and the Creighton atmosphere is awesome. While so many med schools have a competitive, cutthroat atmosphere, Creighton was the opposite. Many of my closest friends are people I met in medical school. I chose staying in Omaha for residency over programs in more popular cities. Feel free to ask me any questions you have about Creighton. I'll give my honest option both good and bad. There is a lot of transition happening that will certainly impact your potential experience and medical education.
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What do you think of the new medical education center theyre building at bergan mercy (I think that's where it is)? Are they planning to have all four years located there?
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The plan is to move the main academic medical center to Bergan Mercy which is about 15 min from the current hospital. For medical students I don't think this will be a big change since we already do several rotations at Bergan. The switch is also supposed to happen sometime in 2017 so by the time people currently applying start clinical rotations it will have been several years since the transition. Bergan is already a busy hospital and probably already has a higher patient census than CUMC. The main thing that will affect students is which faculty members go to Bergan. I believe the first two years will still be on Creighton's main campus since that's wephere all the lecture halls, anatomy lab, etc. is located.
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Well from what @Rhizobium has said this sounds like a great school and a great place to go to school! I'm an OOS applicant but this school sounds like it'd be a great fit. Thanks for the info!
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Hey folks. Just graduated from Creighton a couple months ago; this is the same post as I put up late in last year's thread but figured I'd chime in to the lovely M3 up above.
Background: grew up in SF Bay Area, grad school and work in DC, then came to Omaha. Going into Emergency Medicine at Jacobi/Montefiore in The Bronx.
I spent all four years in Omaha and absolutely LOVED it. It's the (MUCH) older of the two campuses so the name is well-established; you'll find lots of Creighton "lifers" who have been here from undergrad through working as attendings here. Others leave for some time then come back. It's a very close-knit community here and we all look out for each other. The faculty are wonderful teachers who, for the most part, care about the students deeply. (Every school has a few bad apples; we are no exception.) Recently, there has been some issues with the clinical experience for several reasons:
1) Creighton University Medical Center (CUMC) is now owned by CHI Health, yet another big health corporation that has no ****ing clue how to run an academic medical center. Their policies have unfortunately sent some of our faculty members to look for greener pastures, especially the surgery department. Having said that, however, we've also hired some wonderful new surgeons who are doing great things for the department's status and respect in the region.
2) Creighton is moving from CUMC, our hospital and academic home across the street from the university, to Bergan-Mercy, about 6 miles away. CUMC has always been an academic center with a strong educational and training mission, whereas Bergan has always been more of a private community hospital with many attendings who prefer to NOT teach. (Bergan has always been a major site for Creighton's OB and Surgery so they're used to seeing students and residents, and will become THE primary site with this coming move. Some other programs rotate through there, but currently, resident presence is far smaller than at CUMC). Well, now we're bringing all the academics over there and forcing many of these attendings - the ones who chose to work at Bergan because they didn't want to teach - to teach. Undoubtedly some of them will leave; the great thing is that we will retain most of the Creighton faculty, the ones dedicated to teaching, over to Bergan. The other issue with moving to Bergan is that Creighton's mission has always been to serve those who cannot help themselves. Our current location next to North Omaha works perfectly for that - most of our patients are very underserved/underinsured. Will we still be able to serve that mission as effectively by physically moving away from that community? Will they still come to us? So that's a little up in the air too.
The 45 or so who choose Phoenix for M3 and M4 are a fairly self-selected group. They are usually 1) southwest US or SoCal natives who want to go back home, 2) the partiers who want to be in a much bigger city than Omaha, or 3) the super outdoorsy ones. They all loved their experience down there - St. Joe's is a MASSIVE, super busy hospital with some truly superstar faculty. The Phoenix crowd tends to be Psych heavy too (6 of my classmates switched out of whatever specialty they were gonna do into Psych, on top of the others already doing it) due to Dr. Caplan, who is such an amazing psychiatrist and teacher that he convinced them to switch. The OB experience seems to be the one big downfall - it's an EXTREMELY busy baby factory with tons of deliveries every day and night, which is great if you wanna catch 5-10 babies every day, but all my classmates there hated the residents. OB there seems to be a very malignant program and culture; the department says they are taking action to make changes, but those are very much up in the air right now.
There are some really new exciting changes coming to the curriculum that I'm sad I won't get to experience! First of all, every incoming M1 will get a MacBook pre-loaded with apps and books; these laptops will also be used to take exams so we don't have to use the computer lab for that purpose anymore. Secondly, M3 year is getting completely redone - they are adding a 4-week Neuro rotation and three 2-week electives, which I did not get to have.
Having said all that, I've absolutely loved almost every single bit of my experience here. The Midwest is such a comfortable and friendly place to be, and Omaha is a phenomenal city that's growing every day. The food scene here is surprisingly awesome, and this is coming from a snobby Californian such as myself. The farm-to-table restaurant movement here is alive and kicking, and DAMN, do they do it well here. So the big changes these next few years are a little scary, but Creighton knows what they're doing and there's no way they will let this 125-year-old institution go down the drain. I am confident that it will be every bit as great the school it was before some of these unforeseen changes happened.
Background: grew up in SF Bay Area, grad school and work in DC, then came to Omaha. Going into Emergency Medicine at Jacobi/Montefiore in The Bronx.
I spent all four years in Omaha and absolutely LOVED it. It's the (MUCH) older of the two campuses so the name is well-established; you'll find lots of Creighton "lifers" who have been here from undergrad through working as attendings here. Others leave for some time then come back. It's a very close-knit community here and we all look out for each other. The faculty are wonderful teachers who, for the most part, care about the students deeply. (Every school has a few bad apples; we are no exception.) Recently, there has been some issues with the clinical experience for several reasons:
1) Creighton University Medical Center (CUMC) is now owned by CHI Health, yet another big health corporation that has no ****ing clue how to run an academic medical center. Their policies have unfortunately sent some of our faculty members to look for greener pastures, especially the surgery department. Having said that, however, we've also hired some wonderful new surgeons who are doing great things for the department's status and respect in the region.
2) Creighton is moving from CUMC, our hospital and academic home across the street from the university, to Bergan-Mercy, about 6 miles away. CUMC has always been an academic center with a strong educational and training mission, whereas Bergan has always been more of a private community hospital with many attendings who prefer to NOT teach. (Bergan has always been a major site for Creighton's OB and Surgery so they're used to seeing students and residents, and will become THE primary site with this coming move. Some other programs rotate through there, but currently, resident presence is far smaller than at CUMC). Well, now we're bringing all the academics over there and forcing many of these attendings - the ones who chose to work at Bergan because they didn't want to teach - to teach. Undoubtedly some of them will leave; the great thing is that we will retain most of the Creighton faculty, the ones dedicated to teaching, over to Bergan. The other issue with moving to Bergan is that Creighton's mission has always been to serve those who cannot help themselves. Our current location next to North Omaha works perfectly for that - most of our patients are very underserved/underinsured. Will we still be able to serve that mission as effectively by physically moving away from that community? Will they still come to us? So that's a little up in the air too.
The 45 or so who choose Phoenix for M3 and M4 are a fairly self-selected group. They are usually 1) southwest US or SoCal natives who want to go back home, 2) the partiers who want to be in a much bigger city than Omaha, or 3) the super outdoorsy ones. They all loved their experience down there - St. Joe's is a MASSIVE, super busy hospital with some truly superstar faculty. The Phoenix crowd tends to be Psych heavy too (6 of my classmates switched out of whatever specialty they were gonna do into Psych, on top of the others already doing it) due to Dr. Caplan, who is such an amazing psychiatrist and teacher that he convinced them to switch. The OB experience seems to be the one big downfall - it's an EXTREMELY busy baby factory with tons of deliveries every day and night, which is great if you wanna catch 5-10 babies every day, but all my classmates there hated the residents. OB there seems to be a very malignant program and culture; the department says they are taking action to make changes, but those are very much up in the air right now.
There are some really new exciting changes coming to the curriculum that I'm sad I won't get to experience! First of all, every incoming M1 will get a MacBook pre-loaded with apps and books; these laptops will also be used to take exams so we don't have to use the computer lab for that purpose anymore. Secondly, M3 year is getting completely redone - they are adding a 4-week Neuro rotation and three 2-week electives, which I did not get to have.
Having said all that, I've absolutely loved almost every single bit of my experience here. The Midwest is such a comfortable and friendly place to be, and Omaha is a phenomenal city that's growing every day. The food scene here is surprisingly awesome, and this is coming from a snobby Californian such as myself. The farm-to-table restaurant movement here is alive and kicking, and DAMN, do they do it well here. So the big changes these next few years are a little scary, but Creighton knows what they're doing and there's no way they will let this 125-year-old institution go down the drain. I am confident that it will be every bit as great the school it was before some of these unforeseen changes happened.
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Has anyone received information about the secondary? From the website it looks like it should open today.
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Nothing yet, I think this is a weird year for admissions timelines with the earlier start.
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Mine gives an option to create secondary, but it loads to an error message.
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Mine has worked fine. Maybe try it again soon, I had issues with other secondaries throwing errors that were resolved after the portal had been open for a little while. Has anyone received an additional email about the MD/PhD program?
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I was just going to ask about this, I didn't apply MD/PhD, so I was worried I did on accident but if others are getting it, maybe they're just publicizing it.
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Same thing here, i guess they promote it to everyone after sending out their secondary
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I'm a re-applicant who received an interview last time but didn't get in - I really enjoyed the school atmosphere though so I was gonna apply again but it looks like they've added in physiology as a course requirement which I didn't take 🙁
Now I'm trying to decide if I should bother applying or not since I have a full time job and don't know if it's worth taking a night course for just this one school... ugh.
Now I'm trying to decide if I should bother applying or not since I have a full time job and don't know if it's worth taking a night course for just this one school... ugh.
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So does everyone get the md phd information too?
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I noticed nobody posted the prompts here. Same as last year though:
How will you use your specific attributes and experiences to reinforce the Creighton University School of Medicine Mission?
Please describe your current activities/employment if you are not currently enrolled as a fulltime student.
Please state your reasons for applying to Creighton University School of Medicine.
2000 characters max all.
How will you use your specific attributes and experiences to reinforce the Creighton University School of Medicine Mission?
Please describe your current activities/employment if you are not currently enrolled as a fulltime student.
Please state your reasons for applying to Creighton University School of Medicine.
2000 characters max all.
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Hm, can we only pay using PayPal? I really don't want to have to set up a PayPal account......
Also, word to the wise, I just tried to cancel my payment and even though I didn't enter anything in, I have to wait for them to reset my payment status since, by clicking "pay by credit card" I began a payment transaction. So, uh, don't do what I did!
Also, word to the wise, I just tried to cancel my payment and even though I didn't enter anything in, I have to wait for them to reset my payment status since, by clicking "pay by credit card" I began a payment transaction. So, uh, don't do what I did!
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If you click pay by credit card, you do not need a PayPal account?
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You can choose to not set up an account when going through the process. It will say off to the side to enter your new account info but there is an option below to skip making the account and simply do the transaction.
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Ah, I missed that, thank you! Sorry to be blind.
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No worries. I just remembered it because I had the same reaction as you at first.
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Is anyone else having problems getting their essays to save in the "Additional Info" section? I've tried doing it in three browsers and it won't work in any of them 🙁
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Hey everyone! Does anyone know if for the pre-req requirements for Biochemistry, Statistics, and Physiology if we just need a minimum of ONE course? I know they specified Two for English so I assumed it was one for the others. Just wanted to know if I should add all the courses I took on the pre-req page for those requirements or just one. Thanks!
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I am pretty sure it is just one course for all three of those. No school asks for two stats courses, and I don't know of any that asks for two biochem courses. I am pretty sure it is just one each, but feel free to confirm by calling.
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That moment when you have to download a new internet browser...how are they not compatible with chrome yet?!
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It's just one each. But like it's been said before, if you have questions about courses, you should really just call the admissions office to confirm.
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So I just found out that the acronym CUSOM refers to an osteopathic school... I've been using 'CUSOM' in my essays, but changing it to 'Creighton' now would put me over the character limit. Do you think the adcom will care if I make this slight faux pas?
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I am sure you can reduce the extra 10-15 characters. It would really be in your favor. I personally would go with Creighton regardless, because that is what is correct.
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for the prerequisite page, what did you guys do if you did not take the course yet? i just graduated and i'm not sure where i will be taking the physiology course that is required, and i can't leave any of the fields blank.
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Anyone know the maximum number of LORs that can be submitted?
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I definitely used "CUSOM" in my application, and they let me in anyway. CUSOM also refers to Creighton, and we use it all the time.
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Creighton states that they don't take AP statistics credit and I never took another statistics course. Should I even go forth in applying here? I don't know when I would have time to take one since I am now graduated. Are there any substitutes for this credit?
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I am in the same boat with no statistics and still applied.... I think for those of us who are no longer in school, they would probably accept an online course from a community college or something, which is what I'll plan for if accepted.
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Call up the admissions office and ask them! They're super nice and are glad to help.
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If I have been a full-time student my entire college career but will be a part-time student beginning in the fall, do you think I will have to answer the second question? Or do you think I should just leave it as I don't quite know what my plans for the fall will be?...
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Any advice on whether it would be appropriate to talk about my Christian values and how thats a major reason why I am applying?
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I have met the med school's dean, and he was very into talking about christian values and how they inform professional lives.
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I love this school but im jewish. is that going to hurt me? lol
I highly doubt it. They want a diverse student body.. not a bunch of white, Catholic, Midwestern people.
Then again, I'm not an adcom member. Go for it though, imo. Its all about ending up where you love. [/soapbox]
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Most are from california, if i'm not mistaken
20% are Creighton undergrads
12.7% are from Cali
10.8% are from Minnesota
10.1% are from Illinois
7.6% are from Colorado
7% are from Iowa
So who knows how much overlap there is between the Creighton UG's and those states, but it seems like Cali and Midwest people from MSAR/their site
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Definitely will not hurt you in any way. While the university is officially Jesuit, the main mission of the medical school is serving the underserved and treating the whole patient, not just their disease. This mindset is applicable to all religions. Any non-medical volunteering will be very beneficial and I'd say at least some community service is almost required to get an interview. Any involvement with helping the less fortunate will be a strong positive regardless of the religious affiliation.
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- 23
- Points
- 4,621
- Medical Student (Accepted)
I received the secondary but one of my mcat sections is below 55th percentile which they "highly recommend" should I even bother applying? High gpa, very strong and unique ec's and strong LOR, oos
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- Joined
- May 27, 2015
- Messages
- 208
- Reaction score
- 285
- Points
- 5,246
- Medical Student
Hey how long did it take for the website to reset your payment status? I did the same mistake you made... 🙁
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