2018-2019 Hackensack-Meridian School of Medicine at Seton Hall

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7331poas said:
About 50%.

Just a word of advice guys, it's a 500word limit. You absolutely do not need to write that much.

As for the other questions, if I had to guess, the median stats are 3.7 513ish. Just a guess.
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Do think it's worth applying as an OOS from NY? I've seen some other people say they're interested in serving North Jersey.
 
I still cannot figure out how to access this secondary. When I do forgot password, they just send me my AMCAS ID. I've tried logging in with my AMCAS ID and PW but it's not working

Anyone got any tips for how to log in?
 
Why do they ask about our motivations and then append short and long term goals at the end? It doesn't seem to follow... Also, I already gave my goals in question 2.
 
Mr. Peanutbutter said:
I still cannot figure out how to access this secondary. When I do forgot password, they just send me my AMCAS ID. I've tried logging in with my AMCAS ID and PW but it's not working

Anyone got any tips for how to log in?
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We're not supposed to use that. We have to use the other link to the Office form that they sent us in the final email.
 
Is there a major in-state preference here? I'm debating sending in the secondary with the $80 fee
 
7331poas said:
the school is more hackensack than seton hall tbh. but you can get away with either.
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Is it true? Lectures are mandatory, no recordings? If so, I'm really disappointed. Especially given the amount of effort needed for this secondary.
 
Does anyone know of any community outreach initiatives they have here? I'm having trouble finding them on their website or on Google.
 
SadAsian said:
Does anyone know of any community outreach initiatives they have here? I'm having trouble finding them on their website or on Google.
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Funny I had the same problem. But I did find those social services they partner with
 
pm_me_fortnite_highlights said:
nobody knows lol. a current student has postulated that they could be around 3.7 and 513 though.
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Current student here. I honestly have no idea what our class stats are, but I’d guess that 3.7, 510+ is as fair an estimate as any. I only know a couple of people’s stats, can’t speak to the 520+ students that 7331poas mentioned.

medschoolzombie said:
They’re not according to previous years thread and lectures are mandatory
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Classes are not recorded and are mandatory. It’s really not that big of a deal though, we’re only in class till 12 on most days for our first unit which we’re 5 weeks into. That will change when we move into other units, but should stay pretty consistent. The curriculum is very “pre-work” heavy, so you read for the next day’s classes the night before and go over it in TBL or large group sessions. Given how things are structured, they leave a lot of time for self-studying. Mandatory lectures haven’t been a problem for me yet, and I don’t really expect that to change. The slides are always made available to us. We’d prefer if they recorded lectures, but it isn’t a deal breaker.

SadAsian said:
Does anyone know of any community outreach initiatives they have here? I'm having trouble finding them on their website or on Google.
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Our orientation week had community outreach projects, including volunteer and education days at the Boys and Girls Club, with Habitat for Humanity, and community programs in Jersey, specifically Asbury Park, that are dedicated to training locals for the work force. We also have a longitudinal project that involves engaging local communities to improve the health of their populations that will hopefully culminate in a final project pushing for actual policy or infrastructural change in the towns. It’ still early in the process to determine how impactful it will be in the end, but the idea is interesting and all of the faculty are excited about it. Students are also starting organizations like mentoring programs with local high schools and universities, and interest groups for the healthcare of underserved populations.

medschoolzombie said:
It’s for only a select few at Hackensack. They don’t have all the specialties either but they said they were working on that and hope to make them options by the time the first class is close to matching
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According to the Dean of Medical Education Continuum, theoretically every student can enter the early residency program. The residencies are distributed throughout the Hackensack-Meridian system and allied hospitals. There are limited spots for certain specialties, but there are definitely more spots than students right now. Granted, if all 60 students tried to match for the one derm residency, there would be an issue, but there are a number of specialties across several hospitals in the network right now, and they’re considering adding more programs for when they finally roll it out. We’ll learn more about this in September 2019, when it’s all finalized, but it’s definitely in their interest to have spots open since they’re trying to bolster the NJ healthcare system, and doing residency here increases the odds you practice here.

All in all, the first month at HMSOM has been great for me and the other students I’m friends with. I feel for you guys with that secondary though. I considered myself lucky that I didn't have answer it when I applied when I heard how many questions it had. Slow and steady, comrades, it’s an endurance game. Good luck with everything, it’s still early in the cycle, so keep your heads up, and maybe I’ll see some of you at interviews/next year.
 
herrprofessordoktor said:
Our orientation week had community outreach projects, including volunteer and education days at the Boys and Girls Club, with Habitat for Humanity, and community programs in Jersey, specifically Asbury Park, that are dedicated to training locals for the work force. We also have a longitudinal project that involves engaging local communities to improve the health of their populations that will hopefully culminate in a final project pushing for actual policy or infrastructural change in the towns. It’ still early in the process to determine how impactful it will be in the end, but the idea is interesting and all of the faculty are excited about it. Students are also starting organizations like mentoring programs with local high schools and universities, and interest groups for the healthcare of underserved populations.
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Thank you so much for your detailed response 🙂 I really appreciate it! Does the longitudinal project have a title?
 
medschoolzombie said:
I think it’s part of the human dimension course
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Oh okay, thanks 🙂

Also... anyone else finding the "personal experiences that have motivated your decision to enter health care, as well as short- and long-term goals" question kind of... redundant? Or at least the goals part? I don't know what to write for this as I feel that I've answered that in the second prompt....
 
SadAsian said:
Oh okay, thanks 🙂

Also... anyone else finding the "personal experiences that have motivated your decision to enter health care, as well as short- and long-term goals" question kind of... redundant? Or at least the goals part? I don't know what to write for this as I feel that I've answered that in the second prompt....
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Yeah same. The entire secondary feels very redundant.
 
SadAsian said:
Oh okay, thanks 🙂

Also... anyone else finding the "personal experiences that have motivated your decision to enter health care, as well as short- and long-term goals" question kind of... redundant? Or at least the goals part? I don't know what to write for this as I feel that I've answered that in the second prompt....
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Same. So I realized that my professional goal essay also fits for this prompt, so I'm debating on switching it over for this one and finding another professional goal to write about
 
Has anyone submitted everything including mailed the check and gotten confirmation that their files complete? I know it's a little dramatic, but I'm worried my check will get lost and i'll never know what happened
 
edb63 said:
Has anyone submitted everything including mailed the check and gotten confirmation that their files complete? I know it's a little dramatic, but I'm worried my check will get lost and i'll never know what happened
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I mailed mine yesterday and plan to call next week if I don't hear back. Also gives me a chance to put my name/file out there.
 
For the "field of medicine (or a related field) that has prepared you for advanced study in this area." question, are we supposed to pick a particular field to talk about for 'advanced' area
 
edb63 said:
Has anyone submitted everything including mailed the check and gotten confirmation that their files complete? I know it's a little dramatic, but I'm worried my check will get lost and i'll never know what happened
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No confirmation from the school, but I know they got it today, as I had delivery confirmation with my mailed check.
 
arczim said:
Hi! I was wondering if you heard anything from admissions? I tried calling but got no response 🙁 I'm currently facing the same issues with the word count.
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I called and emailed admissions. They suggested that I paste into wordpad and paste that into the application as plain text, but I am still not able to submit. For those of you who successfully submitted, which browser did you use and where did you paste from? I tried pasting from a google doc and notepad..... running out of ideas here
 
premed12335 said:
I called and emailed admissions. They suggested that I paste into wordpad and paste that into the application as plain text, but I am still not able to submit. For those of you who successfully submitted, which browser did you use and where did you paste from? I tried pasting from a google doc and notepad..... running out of ideas here
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I used chrome and it worked fine, was able to submit. Try that...and if that doesn’t work try it in incognito mode, maybe that will work?
 
AS6191 said:
I used chrome and it worked fine, was able to submit. Try that...and if that doesn’t work try it in incognito mode, maybe that will work?
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I just tried the same thing! Chrome and chrome in incognito mode! Still getting the same error that says my response exceeds the limit. Also tried Safari to no avail..... running out of ideas here....
 
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premed12335 said:
I just tried the same thing! Chrome and chrome in incognito mode! Still getting the same error that says my response exceeds the limit. Also tried Safari to no avail..... running out of ideas here....
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and you're using the app (microsoft office form) from the link in the "secondary app glitch" email, not the first one that's incorrect? i just tried pasting it into the form (from Pages) again, and it actually let me paste 500+ words in....
 
herrprofessordoktor said:
Current student here. I honestly have no idea what our class stats are, but I’d guess that 3.7, 510+ is as fair an estimate as any. I only know a couple of people’s stats, can’t speak to the 520+ students that 7331poas mentioned.



Classes are not recorded and are mandatory. It’s really not that big of a deal though, we’re only in class till 12 on most days for our first unit which we’re 5 weeks into. That will change when we move into other units, but should stay pretty consistent. The curriculum is very “pre-work” heavy, so you read for the next day’s classes the night before and go over it in TBL or large group sessions. Given how things are structured, they leave a lot of time for self-studying. Mandatory lectures haven’t been a problem for me yet, and I don’t really expect that to change. The slides are always made available to us. We’d prefer if they recorded lectures, but it isn’t a deal breaker.



Our orientation week had community outreach projects, including volunteer and education days at the Boys and Girls Club, with Habitat for Humanity, and community programs in Jersey, specifically Asbury Park, that are dedicated to training locals for the work force. We also have a longitudinal project that involves engaging local communities to improve the health of their populations that will hopefully culminate in a final project pushing for actual policy or infrastructural change in the towns. It’ still early in the process to determine how impactful it will be in the end, but the idea is interesting and all of the faculty are excited about it. Students are also starting organizations like mentoring programs with local high schools and universities, and interest groups for the healthcare of underserved populations.



According to the Dean of Medical Education Continuum, theoretically every student can enter the early residency program. The residencies are distributed throughout the Hackensack-Meridian system and allied hospitals. There are limited spots for certain specialties, but there are definitely more spots than students right now. Granted, if all 60 students tried to match for the one derm residency, there would be an issue, but there are a number of specialties across several hospitals in the network right now, and they’re considering adding more programs for when they finally roll it out. We’ll learn more about this in September 2019, when it’s all finalized, but it’s definitely in their interest to have spots open since they’re trying to bolster the NJ healthcare system, and doing residency here increases the odds you practice here.

All in all, the first month at HMSOM has been great for me and the other students I’m friends with. I feel for you guys with that secondary though. I considered myself lucky that I didn't have answer it when I applied when I heard how many questions it had. Slow and steady, comrades, it’s an endurance game. Good luck with everything, it’s still early in the cycle, so keep your heads up, and maybe I’ll see some of you at interviews/next year.
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What is the target area that HMSOM is trying to serve? The Tri-State area? Or just North New Jersey?
 
AS6191 said:
and you're using the app (microsoft office form) from the link in the "secondary app glitch" email, not the first one that's incorrect? i just tried pasting it into the form (from Pages) again, and it actually let me paste 500+ words in....
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Yes, I'm using the microsoft form they emailed out. I tried pasting from google docs and from wordpad. Everything is within the 500 words allowed. I'm able to paste into the boxes, but when I hit submit it says "you response exceeds the limit"
 
premed12335 said:
Yes, I'm using the microsoft form they emailed out. I tried pasting from google docs and from wordpad. Everything is within the 500 words allowed. I'm able to paste into the boxes, but when I hit submit it says "you response exceeds the limit"
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In the same boat here. Wasn't able to submit my response even though my essays were under 500 words. Tried pasting in Safari/Chrome/Firefox/Internet Explorer, and using Microsoft Word/Pages/Textedit. Worked on this for half a day and still wouldn't let me submit. What to do?
 
Has anyone called about the word count issue on the new secondary form?
 
SadAsian said:
Oh okay, thanks 🙂

Also... anyone else finding the "personal experiences that have motivated your decision to enter health care, as well as short- and long-term goals" question kind of... redundant? Or at least the goals part? I don't know what to write for this as I feel that I've answered that in the second prompt....
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What did you decide to do for this? I am having the same problem.
 
So when I submitted my secondary form I did not get a confirmation email. I was wondering if anyone has been notified after sumbitting the secondary? Or does it take a few days for them to process it?
 
i just got the email "We have received your secondary application".
 
shyguyk said:
i just got the email "We have received your secondary application".
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You submitted the app on the second link they gave you right?

I called the office today and they said I wouldn't get a confirmation email till they received my money order in the mail which could take a week and half.
 
FuturePplHelper said:
You submitted the app on the second link they gave you right?

I called the office today and they said I wouldn't get a confirmation email till they received my money order in the mail which could take a week and half.
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What number did you use to call?
 
I'm really struggling with having even half of the 500 word count. How many words do you all think would be deemed acceptable? I am almost ready to give up tbh. It's a bit excessive.
 
Catsfordays said:
I'm really struggling with having even half of the 500 word count. How many words do you all think would be deemed acceptable? I am almost ready to give up tbh. It's a bit excessive.
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I think 250-300 words is fine. I'm struggling with the prompts themselves lol, feels like I'm repeating ideas in every single essay.
 
13. Describe your experience with the field of medicine (or a related field) that has prepared you for advanced study in this area. Specifically, how have your life experiences prepared you to pursue a degree in medicine, including coursework experiences, clinical work, experiences in overcoming adversity, work experiences, volunteer activities, and/or research experiences?

So I understand it must be a science/medicine adversity experience and not a real early life adversity essay, is that correct? I don't know if I'm supposed to explain my coursework and medical activities (I already did that in the primary with my experiences section) or can I discuss the major adversity in my life that I used in other secondaries.

So this is basically an adversity question only for medical experiences?
 
PotGoblinsales10 said:
13. Describe your experience with the field of medicine (or a related field) that has prepared you for advanced study in this area. Specifically, how have your life experiences prepared you to pursue a degree in medicine, including coursework experiences, clinical work, experiences in overcoming adversity, work experiences, volunteer activities, and/or research experiences?

So I understand it must be a science/medicine adversity experience and not a real early life adversity essay, is that correct? I don't know if I'm supposed to explain my coursework and medical activities (I already did that in the primary with my experiences section) or can I discuss the major adversity in my life that I used in other secondaries.

So this is basically an adversity question only for medical experiences?
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The way I took it, it's asking you what you learned from your experiences (whatever they are) that will help you become a great doctor
 
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