2021-2022 Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences

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Did the coordinator email you after your status changed in DODMERB or before?

How long after you completed your medical exam were you able to start the waiver process?
I emailed coordinator when I saw that my status changed to get the ball rolling. I received an automated message from USUHS of the status change a few days after my initial email to them, but they had been in contact with me before that.
 
Waitlist over here 🙁

Can't believe they have already given out all the seats and it's only day one of acceptances!
Getting on the waitlist is great news (at USU). Most of the incoming class actually comes from the waitlist! I think the numbers were something along the lines of ~270 total acceptances (100 of which are from the waitlist) and a class size of around 170.

Also, being waitlisted doesn't necessarily mean all of the seats have filled. I'm pretty sure that it means "we want to see what other applicants have to offer before making a decision about you".
 
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Waitlist over here 🙁

Can't believe they have already given out all the seats and it's only day one of acceptances

Where did you get the info that all seats have been filled? Was it in the email sent to you?
 
Where did you get the info that all seats have been filled? Was it in the email sent to you?
I don't think the seats are actually filled. Being put on the waitlist in university often means the class is full while being put on the waitlist in medical school is more complex and may mean the adcoms want to wait before making a decision. Getting waitlisted to a medical school does not necessarily mean that the class is full. Getting waitlisted at this point may mean your application isn't very competitive and adcoms want to see what the other applicants have to offer (not to be rude).

Since USU has a strict budget and can't matriculate more students than their budget allows (~165-175 students), most applicants will end up getting waitlisted. Many of these students will eventually come off of the waitlist as applicants choose other schools, medically disqualify, etc. If I am correct, USU also saves a few spots for students that are competitive.

When I applied last year (which, as many of you may know, was incredibly competitive), Capt. Liotta told me that the incoming Navy and AF classes were pretty much consolidated by November. Based solely on the activity in this thread (compared to last year's thread), the 2021-2022 cycle is not nearly as intense.
 
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Currently waiting on my conditional release from my career field so I can find out the news (interviewed Sept 23rd). I think I'll find out about my release this week. Ah, the suspense!!
 
Every time I come on SDN my blood pressure gets just a little bit higher.
Hoping everyone's paperwork comes through.
My last CO, just got swapped out this weekend, was very supportive and got me my LOA almost immediately and my 368 is expected any day now. Having that heart-to-heart with your commander might just get you the support you need to get that stuff pushed through. I mean, they all talk about that open-door policy, it might as well be good for something. And when you're sending paperwork that needs a very well-paid person to sign, it helps to have that kind of support to back you up, especially if you're like me and one of the scum of enlisted riff-raff.

Now all I have to do is get medically cleared and not bomb the interview.

Cheers!
 
Still have not heard anything from this school. Materials received/complete for review email on 08/04. Would you all say it is safe to say it's a no from them? Thought about emailing my advisor, but it says that update emails are welcome beginning in December. What do you guys think? I do not want to be annoying about it and possibly affect my chances by doing so.
 
Still have not heard anything from this school. Materials received/complete for review email on 08/04. Would you all say it is safe to say it's a no from them? Thought about emailing my advisor, but it says that update emails are welcome beginning in December. What do you guys think? I do not want to be annoying about it and possibly affect my chances by doing so.
They send roughly equal numbers of interview invites each week between August and November. There are still around 1/3 of interviews to be handed out.
 
Still have not heard anything from this school. Materials received/complete for review email on 08/04. Would you all say it is safe to say it's a no from them? Thought about emailing my advisor, but it says that update emails are welcome beginning in December. What do you guys think? I do not want to be annoying about it and possibly affect my chances by doing so.
Interviews go until Janurary/February. Did you receive the actual "Complete" email or just the "Materials Received" email? At this point in the cycle, you'll likely hear back in 6-12 weeks after receiving the "Complete" email.

Last cycle, I received the "Material Received" email on 9/19/2020, the "application is complete" email on 9/23/2020, and an interview invite on 12/22/2020 (about 13 weeks). I interviewed on the week of 1/25/2021 and was waitlisted. I was given a spot but decided not to take it because it was literally the last possible spot and I needed time to develop personally. Take this with a grain of salt though - remember that the 2020 cycle was absolutely brutal and extremely competitive (COVID delays, Fauci effect, etc.).

This cycle, I received the "application is complete" email on 8/9/2021 and received an II on 9/10/2021 (just under 5 weeks). I had both of my interviews last Tuesday (10/12/2021).
 
Interviews go until Janurary/February. Did you receive the actual "Complete" email or just the "Materials Received" email? At this point in the cycle, you'll likely hear back in 6-12 weeks after receiving the "Complete" email.

Last cycle, I received the "Material Received" email on 9/19/2020, the "application is complete" email on 9/23/2020, and an interview invite on 12/22/2020 (about 13 weeks). I interviewed on the week of 1/25/2021 and was waitlisted. I was given a spot but decided not to take it because it was literally the last possible spot and I needed time to develop personally. Take this with a grain of salt though - remember that the 2020 cycle was absolutely brutal and extremely competitive (COVID delays, Fauci effect, etc.).

This cycle, I received the "application is complete" email on 8/9/2021 and received an II on 9/10/2021 (just under 5 weeks). I had both of my interviews last Tuesday (10/12/2021).
Let me rephrase it. I received the "application complete email" on 08/23. Forgot to mention that. Thanks for the response.
 
Still have not heard anything from this school. Materials received/complete for review email on 08/04. Would you all say it is safe to say it's a no from them? Thought about emailing my advisor, but it says that update emails are welcome beginning in December. What do you guys think? I do not want to be annoying about it and possibly affect my chances by doing so.
It’s very early.
 
Still have not heard anything from this school. Materials received/complete for review email on 08/04. Would you all say it is safe to say it's a no from them? Thought about emailing my advisor, but it says that update emails are welcome beginning in December. What do you guys think? I do not want to be annoying about it and possibly affect my chances by doing so.
Not that I can speak for the ADCOM, but have you contacted your advisor at all? I wouldn't say I've had regular contact with mine but I've been emailing mine pretty frequently, asking for updates while sending updates, hiked up to Bethesda and met them for a tour. Bottom-line, they know my name and know my face. While the rest of my stuff was in around mid-July, it didn't move forward until my MCAT came in at the beginning of September. I imagine my calling my advisor to tell them about it had a hand in going right to the tracker they keep.

So, squeaky wheel. If my asking whether everything is in and good to go is annoying but the reason I went straight onto the spreadsheet, well I'm okay with being annoying.
 
Anyone have a general idea of when officer training takes place? USU's website states "during the summer", so June-ish?
 
Anyone have a general idea of when officer training takes place? USU's website states "during the summer", so June-ish?
Depends on the branch. Army and Navy are June (and first week of July for Navy), Air Force is like mid-June to mid-July. At least for the Navy, a small number of people go in April/may if they are available to go.
 
Can anyone who has attended the informational sessions and Q&A's speak to their value? I am scheduled to interview next week but am unable to get off work to attend the upcoming sessions.
 
Can anyone who has attended the informational sessions and Q&A's speak to their value? I am scheduled to interview next week but am unable to get off work to attend the upcoming sessions.
I attended the OSA/Commandant/Student panel one in the morning and they were more of an opportunity for us to ask questions that are important to us.
Their schedule says that they also hold evening sessions with CAPT Santiago at 8:30pm EST on some Thursdays. Next one is on November 18th.
 
Got the call at 4 PM EST informing me of a conditional acceptance. Air Force, here I come!!!
Reapplicant that interviewed the week of 09/06.
what is this conditional acceptance? is it different from an acceptance?
 
Is it even worth applying to this school at this point? I haven't submitted my secondary yet. I know I am very late in submitting it. Is it true all the slots are already full? Should I not even bother with this secondary? I don't have crazy high stats or anything
I mean, it's free. So the only thing you're sacrificing is time to fill it out.
 
Is it even worth applying to this school at this point? I haven't submitted my secondary yet. I know I am very late in submitting it. Is it true all the slots are already full? Should I not even bother with this secondary? I don't have crazy high stats or anything
I highly doubt the slots are already full. Most schools will waitlist people that are competitive, but may be right on the border of what the school is looking for. Like they’ll admit them if they don’t find anyone else, but they still want to keep their options open. Makes the more sense then the filling 100% of the schools slots on day one.
 
Anyone get the 'everything received' email in early September and still waiting for the complete email?
 
Is it even worth applying to this school at this point? I haven't submitted my secondary yet. I know I am very late in submitting it. Is it true all the slots are already full? Should I not even bother with this secondary? I don't have crazy high stats or anything
Unless you're past the three-week deadline, you lose nothing but time in sending it in.

From what it sounds like, at least I hope, people getting waitlisted this early sounds like the ADCOM is waiting to see what else comes across their desk. You might not be grabbing any potential advantage in applying now, but I don't think you're necessarily counted out either. Likewise, they don't seem to be too hard on the stats. From what I understand, a 500 on an MCAT is their hard deck for an interview as far as numbers are concerned. GPA I have no idea, but there's a strong emphasis on the "whole-person."

At the same time, you have to realize it's not just an MD you'd be going for with USUHS. You're applying for a spot in the Armed Forces, as an officer, so you'd be entering a whole other world compared to civilian medical schools. 4 years of school, plus 7 more after your residency, that's a long time. On top of the demands of the lifestyle. Go here, live there, work these hours, deploy here, train there. Putting in a little extra time for a secondary is hardly the worst of it.
 
Is it even worth applying to this school at this point? I haven't submitted my secondary yet. I know I am very late in submitting it. Is it true all the slots are already full? Should I not even bother with this secondary? I don't have crazy high stats or anything
You don't really lose anything other than a bit of your time. Worst case scenario, you improve your application/essays and try again next year. You'll be more confident in yourself and you'll already have some intel about how USU's admissions process works. Best case scenario, you get accepted and don't need to worry about anything.

It's been said once but I'll reiterate because everyone asks about it. USU believes an MCAT score of 500 (or more) is sufficient supporting evidence of a prospective student's success in medical school. They care more about GPA (median is about 3.75).

The slots are more than likely not all full. USU has a strict budget and can't accept more students than their budget allows for (the class size is always around 165-175). Like other schools, USU values diversity and likes to keep their options open. They want to see what every student has to offer before finalizing the incoming class. It's not over until it's over, and the admissions cycle runs until July of next year.

Furthermore, this cycle doesn't seem as competitive as last cycle. @PMWB2022 just mentioned that they were complete 10/4 (submitted everything in August) and got an II on 10/21. Last year, when I was complete in late-September, I didn't hear back until late December and interview until late January. Furthermore, this thread is significantly less popular than it was last year so there are likely fewer applicants.

Also, USU is one of those schools that will give you feedback if you ask. Use that to your advantage if things don't work out.

tl;dr You don't have anything to lose. Best case scenario, you get accepted. Worst case scenario, you don't get in and spend an entire year improving your application and essays using the feedback that USU gives you.
 
You don't really lose anything other than a bit of your time. Worst case scenario, you improve your application/essays and try again next year. You'll be more confident in yourself and you'll already have some intel about how USU's admissions process works. Best case scenario, you get accepted and don't need to worry about anything.

It's been said once but I'll reiterate because everyone asks about it. USU believes an MCAT score of 500 (or more) is sufficient supporting evidence of a prospective student's success in medical school. They care more about GPA (median is about 3.75).

The slots are more than likely not all full. USU has a strict budget and can't accept more students than their budget allows for (the class size is always around 165-175). Like other schools, USU values diversity and likes to keep their options open. They want to see what every student has to offer before finalizing the incoming class. It's not over until it's over, and the admissions cycle runs until July of next year.

Furthermore, this cycle doesn't seem as competitive as last cycle. @PMWB2022 just mentioned that they were complete 10/4 (submitted everything in August) and got an II on 10/21. Last year, when I was complete in late-September, I didn't hear back until late December and interview until late January. Furthermore, this thread is significantly less popular than it was last year so there are likely fewer applicants.

Also, USU is one of those schools that will give you feedback if you ask. Use that to your advantage if things don't work out.

tl;dr You don't have anything to lose. Best case scenario, you get accepted. Worst case scenario, you don't get in and spend an entire year improving your application and essays using the feedback that USU gives you.
I agree! I submitted my secondary August 31st with a 3.45 GPA, my prereqs got messed up in their system and I still was in the wave of IIs last night
 
You don't really lose anything other than a bit of your time. Worst case scenario, you improve your application/essays and try again next year. You'll be more confident in yourself and you'll already have some intel about how USU's admissions process works. Best case scenario, you get accepted and don't need to worry about anything.

It's been said once but I'll reiterate because everyone asks about it. USU believes an MCAT score of 500 (or more) is sufficient supporting evidence of a prospective student's success in medical school. They care more about GPA (median is about 3.75).

The slots are more than likely not all full. USU has a strict budget and can't accept more students than their budget allows for (the class size is always around 165-175). Like other schools, USU values diversity and likes to keep their options open. They want to see what every student has to offer before finalizing the incoming class. It's not over until it's over, and the admissions cycle runs until July of next year.

Furthermore, this cycle doesn't seem as competitive as last cycle. @PMWB2022 just mentioned that they were complete 10/4 (submitted everything in August) and got an II on 10/21. Last year, when I was complete in late-September, I didn't hear back until late December and interview until late January. Furthermore, this thread is significantly less popular than it was last year so there are likely fewer applicants.

Also, USU is one of those schools that will give you feedback if you ask. Use that to your advantage if things don't work out.

tl;dr You don't have anything to lose. Best case scenario, you get accepted. Worst case scenario, you don't get in and spend an entire year improving your application and essays using the feedback that USU gives you.
It's an interesting observation, about this forum not being as busy this year.
I've looked in previous forum cycles and noticed that by this point it was at least a few pages longer compared to this time around.
Ah well, maybe I'm overthinking it and the other applicants out there are just shy. Or maybe that just means good news for the rest of us.
 
It's an interesting observation, about this forum not being as busy this year.
I've looked in previous forum cycles and noticed that by this point it was at least a few pages longer compared to this time around.
Ah well, maybe I'm overthinking it and the other applicants out there are just shy. Or maybe that just means good news for the rest of us.
Haha yeah, the numbers are definitely interesting. Looking back at past USU cycle threads on October 22nd, here's what I found:
2015-2016: Page 12/33
2016-2017: Page 9/19
2017-2018: Page 8/17
2018-2019: Page 10/29
2019-2020: Page 5/25
2020-2021: Page 16/36
2021-2022: Page 7/??

Probably a multitude of factors but it definitely speaks for the competitiveness of the previous cycle. I'd look at the number of unique contributors but that would take quite some time. Either way, I'm hoping that it's good news for us!

"Further research is needed."
-Aristotle, probably
 
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I don't think the seats are actually filled. Being put on the waitlist in university often means the class is full while being put on the waitlist in medical school is more complex and may mean the adcoms want to wait before making a decision. Getting waitlisted to a medical school does not necessarily mean that the class is full. Getting waitlisted at this point may mean your application isn't very competitive and adcoms want to see what the other applicants have to offer (not to be rude).

Since USU has a strict budget and can't matriculate more students than their budget allows (~165-175 students), most applicants will end up getting waitlisted. Many of these students will eventually come off of the waitlist as applicants choose other schools, medically disqualify, etc. If I am correct, USU also saves a few spots for students that are competitive.

When I applied last year (which, as many of you may know, was incredibly competitive), Capt. Liotta told me that the incoming Navy and AF classes were pretty much consolidated by November. Based solely on the activity in this thread (compared to last year's thread), the 2021-2022 cycle is not nearly as intense.
Genuinely just quoting USUHS here:

"If you receive a wait list letter, you have been recommended for acceptance by the Admissions Committee,
but there are no spaces available in the First-Year Class and/or in your service choice at the time."

Going verbatim off of what they said. Not just making this ish up lol
 
Genuinely just quoting USUHS here:

"If you receive a wait list letter, you have been recommended for acceptance by the Admissions Committee,
but there are no spaces available in the First-Year Class and/or in your service choice at the time."

Going verbatim off of what they said. Not just making this ish up lol
And it’s totally possible that one or two of the branches are out of spots for now, but the class isn’t totally full because the other branches still have spots. It is very early for the entire class to be filled, but it is possible I guess. That usually doesn’t happen until November.
 
Anyone who has interviewed have any good advice for the types of questions to prepare for? Will I be fine just preparing for just traditional questions + why military medicine?
 
Anyone who has interviewed have any good advice for the types of questions to prepare for? Will I be fine just preparing for just traditional questions + why military medicine?
For sure prep for the standard question and the why military medicine, but also be ready for leadership questions. Remember, the goal of USU is to produce medical corps officers, and the key aspect of being an officer is leadership.
 
For sure prep for the standard question and the why military medicine, but also be ready for leadership questions. Remember, the goal of USU is to produce medical corps officers, and the key aspect of being an officer is leadership.
I will put an extra focus on leadership questions, thanks so much
 
No problem, good luck in your USU interview! USUHS was definitely one of my more laid back interviews. It for sure felt more like a conversation.
Just based off my communications to schedule my interview I genuinely feel that the interviewers want to get to know me and have a conversation, really excited to have the opportunity. Thanks again!
 
Anyone who has interviewed have any good advice for the types of questions to prepare for? Will I be fine just preparing for just traditional questions + why military medicine?
As a disclaimer, I'm a civilian reapplicant so I've had 4 interviewers to date.

The single most important question is "Why medicine, and why in particular military medicine?" or some variation of that. All four of my interviewers asked that. Three of my interviewers asked me about leadership ("Tell me about your most important/humbling leadership experience") and three of them also asked me about where I saw myself in the future ("... outside of, you know, medical specialties.").

The other question that all four interviewers asked me was "Do you have any questions?".

Aside from that, three of my four interviews were very conversational (almost too conversational, which can throw you off). The fourth interview was similar to a traditional "drill you with interview questions" interview but the Q/A session at the end was very conversational and casual. I talked about things like martial arts or research or rocket launchers or therapy pets (Shetland!) with my interviewers.

You generally won't get oddball questions ("What is your favorite microbe?") unless it's very specific to you (i.e. if you're passionate about microbiology).

Other interview questions that I encountered (mostly from that one interviewer):
-Why our school?
-What do you offer us?
-How would your friends describe you?
-What is the last book that you read?
-Tell me about your most significant research experience
-Tell me about the time you spent abroad (because I did medical volunteering abroad)
-What would you say is the biggest downside of military medicine and how do you plan on overcoming that?
-What military exposure do you have outside of your work with ROTC and veterans?
 
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Anyone who has interviewed have any good advice for the types of questions to prepare for? Will I be fine just preparing for just traditional questions + why military medicine?
As a currently serving military applicant, both of my interviewers skipped the "why military medicine" question(s) that they implied normally get asked to everyone. The interviews were then very comparable to others I have done and in both interviews we had enough additional questions to use the full amount of time.
 
My primary application was verified 9/3. I submitted my secondary 9/13. I got a call from the commissioning coordinator about my PMH on 10/1. The admissions office told me on 10/5 that my secondary and LORs were received and they had all the necessary materials for my application. I have not heard back yet about an interview/rejection.
 
My primary application was verified 9/3. I submitted my secondary 9/13. I got a call from the commissioning coordinator about my PMH on 10/1. The admissions office told me on 10/5 that my secondary and LORs were received and they had all the necessary materials for my application. I have not heard back yet about an interview/rejection.
You'll generally hear back about interviews/holds/rejections 4-6 weeks (and up to 8+ weeks if it is later in the cycle) after you receive the "complete" email, which is different from the "all material received" email. At this point in the cycle, the turnaround time is probably around 5-6 weeks. If what you received on 10/5 was the "complete" email, you should expect to hear from USU again sometime in November.
 
You'll generally hear back about interviews/holds/rejections 4-6 weeks (and up to 8+ weeks if it is later in the cycle) after you receive the "complete" email, which is different from the "all material received" email. At this point in the cycle, the turnaround time is probably around 5-6 weeks. If what you received on 10/5 was the "complete" email, you should expect to hear from USU again sometime in November.
Thank you so much! I assume it was the complete email because they said nothing else was required of me.
 
Thank you so much! I assume it was the complete email because they said nothing else was required of me.
The complete email will have a subject line that mentions "Application Complete" (or something like that). Not all admissions counselors send one.
 
Long time listener, first time (ish) poster. Has anyone besides the folks that heard on the first day of announcements (Friday, Oct 15th) received a decision and if so what week did you interview?
 
email? phone call?

I heard WL isnt the worst USUHS... lots of movement.
WL is a great outcome, especially since it's so early. It basically means "accepted but we don't have any seats open right now". Most of the incoming class (about 100 students out of 170ish) come from the waitlist.

Waitlist movement starts as other applicants choose different schools, medically disqualify/fail security clearance, or decide to withdraw their applications for personal reasons. Waitlist movement is pretty consistent until June of next year and then it slows down significantly (or stops) in July-August.
 
WL is a great outcome, especially since it's so early. It basically means "accepted but we don't have any seats open right now". Most of the incoming class (about 100 students out of 170ish) come from the waitlist.

Waitlist movement starts as other applicants choose different schools, medically disqualify/fail security clearance, or decide to withdraw their applications for personal reasons. Waitlist movement is pretty consistent until June of next year and then it slows down significantly (or stops) in July-August.
This. I got off the waitlist in March. Was a great birthday present. Most people in my class are from the waitlist.
 
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