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Going to start reapplication now. I'll be praying internally that I get surprised next weekend, but I'm kind of done panicking. There's nothing left to complain about, the only path forward is to lock in and make up for lost time.

What's another year? What's another move? Nah......we were good enough to get onto the waitlists of schools. When we apply again next year we'll show adcoms that yes, medicine is what we want - and we want to be physicians on top of that. We aren't afraid of going through bureaucracy and glazing and patient assault and lack of resources and privatization and funding cuts because to heck with that - we chose this career path because deep down, each of us wanted to make the world and its people better and healthier. I can think of no more noble cause to stand by.

Congratulations to all of those who've managed to get in this year, it warms my heart. Super Earth salutes you all. This has been John Helldiver, signing off.
 
I just don't get why schools waitlist dozens of people if they actually have no intention of actually taking them off...like what's the point.
I saw a post about this earlier there’s 3 tiers to a waitlist even if they don’t say there is. If we are on the bottom third then we are never getting off
 
On WL for my top choice school which starts in July. CTE deadline is mid June… is it basically over for me at this point? I want to keep my hopes up but also want to be realistic w my chances
 
What is the easiest way to find the CTE deadline for a school?
 
What is the easiest way to find the CTE deadline for a school?
Just google it.
ie I just googled "CTE deadline SLU" and got this answer:
"The Commit to Enroll (CTE) deadline for St. Louis University's School of Medicine is May 30th, 2025. This is the deadline for accepted applicants to formally indicate their commitment to attend the school. The "Plan to Enroll" deadline is February 20, 2025"

and for "CTE deadline Temple SOM" I got:
"The deadline to indicate "Commit to Enroll" (CTE) at The Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University is July 1st. Students in the MD/PhD program must commit by May 6th, and those in the PREP program by June 17th. If a student does not designate "Commit to Enroll" by July 2nd, their acceptance may be rescinded."
 
Just google it.
ie I just googled "CTE deadline SLU" and got this answer:
"The Commit to Enroll (CTE) deadline for St. Louis University's School of Medicine is May 30th, 2025. This is the deadline for accepted applicants to formally indicate their commitment to attend the school. The "Plan to Enroll" deadline is February 20, 2025"

and for "CTE deadline Temple SOM" I got:
"The deadline to indicate "Commit to Enroll" (CTE) at The Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University is July 1st. Students in the MD/PhD program must commit by May 6th, and those in the PREP program by June 17th. If a student does not designate "Commit to Enroll" by July 2nd, their acceptance may be rescinded."
You're my hero
 
Is there WL movement after CTE or is that it? Like at the CTE date the class is what it is?
To my understanding there is most definitely WL movement after CTE. For CTE any student holding an acceptance to the institution must drop all other acceptances/waitlists and confirm their enrollment. Meaning students backed up on waitlists or holding 2-3 acceptances will create potential open spaces for other students. That being said, I probably wouldn't count on CTE providing many spot openings.

I DO wish the CTE deadline (and the waitlist admitting process as a whole) was completed a lot earlier. Not a fan of the overlap between cycles. Hopefully when our generation makes it to senior positions on adcoms we can advocate for some change, and I'm sure between all the zoom interviews and AI processing we could make cycles much more time efficient. Or not...I ain't no expert.
 
This may be a stupid question but I'm just trying to understand how this works with CTE. So if I'm on the waitlist at school A, and the CTE deadline for school A is today, then the only way a spot would open up is if a student who is accepted at school A, B and C decides they will not commit to enroll at school A and instead go to school B or C granted those schools have later CTE deadlines. Is this logic correct? Just trying to figure out how this would affect me as someone who is in this exact situation, waiting on the WL with CTE deadline at WL school being today.
 
This may be a stupid question but I'm just trying to understand how this works with CTE. So if I'm on the waitlist at school A, and the CTE deadline for school A is today, then the only way a spot would open up is if a student who is accepted at school A, B and C decides they will not commit to enroll at school A and instead go to school B or C granted those schools have later CTE deadlines. Is this logic correct? Just trying to figure out how this would affect me as someone who is in this exact situation, waiting on the WL with CTE deadline at WL school being today.
This is mostly correct. However it is unlikely that a student would be holding onto 3 acceptances right now unless they got off multiple waitlists around the same time since we are past the April 30th PTE date.

There will be some waitlist movement at some schools post CTE deadline but it's gonna be minimal id guess.
 
This is mostly correct. However it is unlikely that a student would be holding onto 3 acceptances right now unless they got off multiple waitlists around the same time since we are past the April 30th PTE date.

There will be some waitlist movement at some schools post CTE deadline but it's gonna be minimal id guess.
So when do we give up expert 😨
 
today's mood: starting to fully envision the next year of my life living at home (again), working in clinical research and volunteering at a women's shelter-hopefully kicking ass at any interviews that come my way
taking preview tomorrow morning bc my ****ty score from last cycle expired.

some days I'm so hopeful about getting off the waitlist at my dream school, throwing myself into M1 and studying my butt off to be the best physician i can be for my future patients. but delayed dreams are still worth working towards
 
Is it worth it to write a letter of intent? Does it seem desperate? Ik I’ll attend the school of accepted.
 
today's mood: starting to fully envision the next year of my life living at home (again), working in clinical research and volunteering at a women's shelter-hopefully kicking ass at any interviews that come my way
taking preview tomorrow morning bc my ****ty score from last cycle expired.

some days I'm so hopeful about getting off the waitlist at my dream school, throwing myself into M1 and studying my butt off to be the best physician i can be for my future patients. but delayed dreams are still worth working towards
Felt this, it sucks living at home but the joy of succeeding this upcoming cycle will make it so worth it. Taking preview tomorrow, Casper the following week, and I’m starting to get into a prewriting groove. We’ve got this ❤️
 
today's mood: starting to fully envision the next year of my life living at home (again), working in clinical research and volunteering at a women's shelter-hopefully kicking ass at any interviews that come my way
taking preview tomorrow morning bc my ****ty score from last cycle expired.

some days I'm so hopeful about getting off the waitlist at my dream school, throwing myself into M1 and studying my butt off to be the best physician i can be for my future patients. but delayed dreams are still worth working towards
Wait does preview not carry over from last year???
 
After a terrible nightmare of a cycle, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to reapply and this honestly sucks. Still on 2 WLs but one of them seems to be at class size and the other one has minimal movement. I've turned into one of those high stat, good experiences horror stories. I thought I conveyed my story well but I guess I didn't. I'm feeling so sad and defeated bc I took 2 gap years to make sure I felt confident in my application. When I submitted, I felt so good about my application, my writing, my stats, and my experiences and now I feel nothing but wasted time and imposter syndrome. Even if I get in next cycle, it's just going to feel like I got lucky rather than my hard work amounting to anything. Anyone else in the same boat?
 
After a terrible nightmare of a cycle, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to reapply and this honestly sucks. Still on 2 WLs but one of them seems to be at class size and the other one has minimal movement. I've turned into one of those high stat, good experiences horror stories. I thought I conveyed my story well but I guess I didn't. I'm feeling so sad and defeated bc I took 2 gap years to make sure I felt confident in my application. When I submitted, I felt so good about my application, my writing, my stats, and my experiences and now I feel nothing but wasted time and imposter syndrome. Even if I get in next cycle, it's just going to feel like I got lucky rather than my hard work amounting to anything. Anyone else in the same boat?
Not a high stat but I feel you on everything else. On 1 WL at my top school and the school specific thread has people saying the hope is pretty much gone. Last year they had some movement around this time but idk it seems like everyone else is getting picked up one by one except me. Getting hard to stay optimistic especially when balancing switching gears to a reapp. I have no motivation to even prewrite secondaries but they aren’t gonna write themselves.
 
Got my first two As today. Yall this cycle is NOT OVER. I did not have the stats to get into anywhere this cycle, let alone the one MD school I was accepted in to. Please continue to have hope for this current cycle and the next🩷🩷
congratulations!!!!🥳🥳 2 in one day is so exciting
 
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Wait does preview not carry over from last year???
hmmmmmm sooooooooo it looks like I was mistaken and my score from last year is in fact still valid and can be reused from last cycle? found out about this $100 too late🤡 still retaking it tomorrow morning pray for me
 
About to leave my job and do more volunteer work. Should I send an update letter about the new volunteer opportunity?
 
About to leave my job and do more volunteer work. Should I send an update letter about the new volunteer opportunity?
I would wait just because you haven’t done any additional hours yet. It’s also pretty late in the cycle at this point it may not move the needle if it’s less than 100 hours
 
If CTE passes it doesn’t even mean WL movement is over. CTE at my WL was June 2 and people have gotten the A today and yesterday
 
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