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[Animal Midwife]

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In any case I believe stagg, what with the #glitch and him not being a real yeet candidate until well into the day this feels more like village scrambling than wolf deception. He mentioned a day ago or whatever that he was waiting on mod clarification on something about Dina and unyeeted her after he got that clarification. So for me it pretty much adds up. And meats you have mentioned yourself multiple times that you have mixed up tracker and watcher before, granted you were a wolf but it happens to villagers too.

I wasn't kidding when I said that trying to figure out the game based on night action notifications would get us in trouble.

What are your thoughts on meats's claim?

 

[Stagg737]

What was with voting Dina this cycle?

Was already explained, see an earlier VMH comment.

I think I had one good visit and one not town visitor watching me but I can't say that's for sure (that it was one villager and one not)

Okay, so I was the watcher and the other person was what you perceived as town? In that case I'll keep the other visitors identity secret for now.

I had two people watching me but based on the wording my perception was one was town and one wasn't

Ah, in that case we should Yeet VMH, since she was the other person who visited you.

It wasn't clear cut. I was told that someone looked closely at me and that there were a pair of eyes on me followed by these emojis 😱 😱

Also, the roles sounded very similar based on the actions I was told (i.e. being watched) so I figured one was village and one was not

I pretty much flat out stated what my PM said without quoting it so you guys can interpret how you wish. Like I said multiple times it wasn't clear cut and I thought it might be town and not town based on the wording and because the two roles sounded so similar, but I wasn't positive.

Yep so shady that I told everyone almost exactly what was in my PM, gave my thoughts on what I thought it meant and my reasoning, AND said that it wasn't clear cut but that's what my perception was. You're the one who outed VMH, not me. I would have loved to clarify more before vote ended but SDN was falling apart

So this exchange bothers me a bit. Initially made it sound like there was a non-town, especially with her second comment, then kind of back-tracking later and saying, "but I wasn't really sure". Could be miscommunication, but does come off as a bit trappish to me.

Well, congratulations, you just did that.

I did, and you can see my explanation above.

Because Stagg waited until two minutes before close to post this, and also because the result I got that night is that "Someone was close on your trail last night" so I thought he had actually tracked me and lied about it but SDN was glitching so I couldn't post that

Like I said, I revealed 20 minutes before close. If SDN hadn't glitched out it would have been plenty of time to adjust. Also, I'm not the person who was "close on your trail", so there's another talking point. Who else has been tracked?

Probably the only good thing is Dina being even more solidified village for me. But I don't regret any PR pressure if I can't get good content from people for days. Reveals are never necessary if you don't hedge your being cleared on them. Work as hard as any vanillager would.

How?

so you, plus some mysterious 3rd party that stagg is now pretending to be, both visited Dina last night, while stagg actually tracked you?

I'm not 3rd party, I'm village. Wish I was third party though, I love it even more than wolfing.

tbh you should both act on me
I want to see it for myself.

Sounds like a great way for us to waste our abilities for a night. Wolf point for you.

I don't understand how you pulled this out of your butt.

Go back and re-read. I'm still confused about your soft vouch for Dina.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Was already explained, see an earlier VMH comment.

I think you forgot to quote said meats comment.

How?

As I already said, two people I'm sus of acted on her. That's no coincidence.

Sounds like a great way for us to waste our abilities for a night. Wolf point for you.

Explain exactly to me why it would be wasted.

 

[Stagg737]

I think you forgot to quote said meats comment.

As I already said, two people I'm sus of acted on her. That's no coincidence.

Explain exactly to me why it would be wasted.

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Is this a serious question? Don't be so egocentric.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is this a serious question? Don't be so egocentric.

Yep, it's as serious as the other 3+ questions I asked and you avoided, leading up to where we're at. Maybe I'll get lucky and you'll answer this one.

 

[WildZoo]

What are your thoughts on meats's claim?

That she was tracked? I mean I don't see a good reason to lie about that but I also don't think that action had to be stagg. "Hot on her trail" could be a lot of things.

 

[Stagg737]

I think you forgot to quote said meats comment.

Can't find it, but I still thought she was wolfy after N2 but was waiting for mod clarification of my night results/ability. Once I got that I was trying to figure things out with Genny and VMH more. I stated several times that I was fine with an Alissa or MsP vote but preferred Alissa d/t information.

Brings me back to my question. Why did you switch to me after pushing MsP so hard for 2 days when she was finally going to get voted? If your previous response is all you've got that's garbage and very atypical for village you, so another wolf point if you don't have a better explanation.

 

[Animal Midwife]

That she was tracked? I mean I don't see a good reason to lie about that but I also don't think that action had to be stagg. "Hot on her trail" could be a lot of things.

No, I meant her watcher claim. Though, honestly, that should mean someone saw meats with Dina anyway.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Can't find it, but I still thought she was wolfy after N2 but was waiting for mod clarification of my night results/ability. Once I got that I was trying to figure things out with Genny and VMH more. I stated several times that I was fine with an Alissa or MsP vote but preferred Alissa d/t information.

Alright, you have the alissa and the FTF info now. Who is your pack?

Brings me back to my question. Why did you switch to me after pushing MsP so hard for 2 days when she was finally going to get voted? If your previous response is all you've got that's garbage and very atypical for village you, so another wolf point if you don't have a better explanation.

*places needle on record*
Do you remember well into late D3 when still you wouldn't answer simple affiliation questions I had? Even when you met your criteria to have said answers?

 

[Stagg737]

Yep, it's as serious as the other 3+ questions I asked and you avoided, leading up to where we're at. Maybe I'll get lucky and you'll answer this one.

How would it be useful other than let you know what our results are? I'm trying to catch wolves and I don't think you're getting NK'd, so I'm not going to act on you unless I think you will be. You're not the only one game-solving, try to understand the world doesn't revolve around you.

No, I meant her watcher claim. Though, honestly, that should mean someone saw meats with Dina anyway.

What watcher claim? I never saw VMH claim watcher, so unless you've got info we don't (or I just missed something) this makes no sense.

 

[WildZoo]

No, I meant her watcher claim. Though, honestly, that should mean someone saw meats with Dina anyway.

Did she claim watcher? If she did I must have missed it during the glitch.

 

[Stagg737]

Alright, you have the alissa and FTF info now. Who is your pack?

*places needle on record*
Do you remember well into late D3 when still you wouldn't answer simple affiliation questions I had? Even when you met your criteria to have said answers?

What simple affiliation questions? I honestly don't remember these? I can give updated info with FTF and Alissa info going forward. I also don't know why you're including FTF in that question, I just said I thought he was wolfy, not that his flip would provide significant info I was looking for. Grasping much?

 

[Animal Midwife]

How would it be useful other than let you know what our results are? I'm trying to catch wolves and I don't think you're getting NK'd, so I'm not going to act on you unless I think you will be. You're not the only one game-solving, try to understand the world doesn't revolve around you.

Who's "our"? I hope you made a logical choice to watch, but we shall see after results I suppose.

watcher claim? I never saw VMH claim watcher, so unless you've got info we don't (or I just missed something) this makes no sense.

*squints*
I'm going to give you a chance to go back and re-read every post since you claimed.

 

[Stagg737]

Did she claim watcher? If she did I must have missed it during the glitch.

She did not. The number of AM inconsistencies is concerning to me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did she claim watcher? If she did I must have missed it during the glitch.

How else would Dina have gotten those results?

 

[WildZoo]

How else would Dina have gotten those results?

I thought stagg said he watched dina?

This is what I'm talking about. Trying to interpret things based on action notifications. It just gets hella confusing. One of Dina's results was stagg, the other is meats I guess if she also acted on dina that night, but it's vague enough it could be any number of actions and I don't think meats made an exact claim yet.

 

[Stagg737]

Who's "our"? I hope you made a logical choice to watch, but we shall see after results I suppose.

*squints*
I'm going to give you a chance to go back and re-read every post since you claimed.

VMH and I, obviously since you asked us both to act on you. Stop being obtuse.

How else would Dina have gotten those results?

You serious? @vetmedhead maybe we really do need a reading comprehension game.

 

[Stagg737]

Redacted (previously my N3 results)

 

[vetmedhead]

VMH and I, obviously since you asked us both to act on you. Stop being obtuse.



You serious? @vetmedhead maybe we really do need a reading comprehension game.

I'm like two seconds away from putting it on my docket I swear

 

[WildZoo]

@Stagg737 Dude you're not supposed to discuss night results until writeup is posted. That's like, WW 101.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought stagg said he watched dina?

This is what I'm talking about. Trying to interpret things based on action notifications. It just gets hella confusing. One of Dina's results was stagg, the other is meats I guess if she also acted on dina that night, but it's vague enough it could be any number of actions and I don't think meats made an exact claim yet.

Okay, I just don't phantom people acting on Dina unless it's a very specific subset of PRs. I won't list them if meats is not claiming watcher, but she was pretty obviously village to me.

 

[Stagg737]

Contingency Vote AM

Very likely to switch, but just want to get this out there to emphasize how ridiculous you're being.

 

[vetmedhead]

No, I meant her watcher claim. Though, honestly, that should mean someone saw meats with Dina anyway.

I haven't claimed watcher. Have more thoughts for today but I want to see night write up first

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not going to quote that Stagg, but I have thoughts after write-up.

 

[Stagg737]

@Stagg737 Dude you're not supposed to discuss night results until writeup is posted. That's like, WW 101.

Sorry, honestly didn't realize it. I've never actually been able to be this active between getting my results and write-up.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Contingency Vote AM

Very likely to switch, but just want to get this out there to emphasize how ridiculous you're being.

This is terrible for so many reasons.

 

[Stagg737]

This is terrible for so many reasons.

So is your logic, so at least we've got one thing in common.

 

[WildZoo]

So is your logic, so at least we've got one thing in common.

AM failing to understand mechanics discussions is pretty NAI

 

[Animal Midwife]

So is your logic, so at least we've got one thing in common.

Poor logic > no logic. After not having four questions answered, I'm doing better than I should be rn honestly.

 

[Stagg737]

Poor logic > no logic. After not having four questions answered, I'm doing better than I should be rn honestly.

You keep adding questions after I answer them. Post the questions you want answered so I can today, otherwise stop making excuses for your crap play.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You keep adding questions after I answer them. Post the questions you want answered so I can today, otherwise stop making excuses for your crap play.

I will, but you best answer them for serious this time. These kills and yeets have only been in your favor.

 

[kaydubs]

Night 3

Still reeling and dealing with the aftermath of #SDNglitch aka When the Abyss Screams Back, the students were nervous and wary. They skittered home, intending to sleep with one eye open. (kaydubs took a large dose of pain meds due to the migraine that the glitch had caused).

Some students were more active. Some took several alcoholic or dairy shots, depending on their natures. Some still didn't want to interact with, well, anyone. (I receive all news secondhand cause I ACTUALLY WAS SLEEPING!!!)

Dead by failing a course is .... well. No one. No one has died.



It is now Day 4.
Yeet/vote will close at 10pm EDT (9pm central/8pm mountain/7pm fantasy land) on Wednesday, 9/30/20.

A note on PMs: You may chat with anyone in your group. As requested, include mods if you so choose.

11 players STILL remain 😱 😱 😱

PM Chat Groups:

Year 1:
@killerleaf
@vetmedhead
@Ms Procrastinator

Year 2:
@cubsrule4e
@Animal Midwife

Year 3:
@ddstothecor
@SARdoghandler
@Stagg737

Year 4:
@WildZoo
@Dinashadow
@genny


Expelled or Otherwise Removed
@katashark - 4th Year Student (vanillager)
@Barkley13 - The Student Who Asks Way Too Many Questions During Lecture (neutral)
@Cyndia - 4th Year Student (vanillager)
@FrostySparrow - 3rd Year Student (vanillager)
@Dr. ForgotToFlush - 1st Year Student (vanillager)
@alissa14 - 2nd Year Student (vanillager)

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[WildZoo]

I would usually wait on this to see how things play out but I'm going to be really busy the next two days, and I have already wasted time I didn't have today. I was wrong, stagg is howling.

 

[WildZoo]

yeet stagg

this is both my own vote and an order for the rest of you

 

[vetmedhead]

vote dubz

something is really off over there and I'd like to get to the bottom of it.

 

[vetmedhead]

yeet stagg

this is both my own vote and an order for the rest of you

no u

 

[vetmedhead]

wait how about this

yeet dubz

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Stagg737

Information on whom? And what would that tell you based on a village or wolf flip?

Who would be cleared from a village flip of killer and FTF, respectively?

As soon as you said nobody would be cleared. So if that's not the case, I circle back to my original question of who would be cleared if one or both flip village?

Yes, since you don't believe they're w/w, that's a real possibility, yes? Who will be in your new POE because of this? Who is more likely to be village because of this? We only have so many yeets. If you get nothing new from a yeet, you yeeted the wrong person for the wrong reason.

Well, could you clarify who'd it give info on so we're all on the same page?

It's a question because finding villagers is just as important as POEing wolves. Who do you have in mind for each one?

What kind of info based on each affiliation?

btw @Stagg737 you have that FTF flip now. I'd be interested in hearing about the results of that world building you've alluded to for a while now.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't quote any of the questions I have just asked you because I am a considerate person.

 

[Stagg737]

Woooooooow, well played wolves (if the no kill was planned).

I tried to watch VMH last night but was told I got an e-mail about an assignment due tomorrow and had to stay in to finish it. Assuming I was blocked.

I would usually wait on this to see how things play out but I'm going to be really busy the next two days, and I have already wasted time I didn't have today. I was wrong, stagg is howling.

Lol, you know you'd have been dead days ago if I were a wolf. Do you really think I play this poorly as a wolf? Should be careful showing those teeth until endgame.

 

[Animal Midwife]

New question from today: Why did you want to watch meats?

 

[SARdoghandler]

I would usually wait on this to see how things play out but I'm going to be really busy the next two days, and I have already wasted time I didn't have today. I was wrong, stagg is howling.

Why, specifically?

 

[Stagg737]

New question from today: Why did you want to watch meats?

I wanted to see if someone tried to act on her after she was outed yesterday and thought she was a potential NK target. The ladder could net a wolf. The former could provide other potentially useful info. Who do you think I should have watched (other than you)?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I wanted to see if someone tried to act on her after she was outed yesterday and thought she was a potential NK target. The ladder could net a wolf. The former could provide other potentially useful info. Who do you think I should have watched (other than you)?

I don't know. Maybe your strongest village read?

Anyway, please answer my other questions you said you would.

 

[SARdoghandler]

AM, what happens if I develop concerns about Dubz being wolfy?

 

[SARdoghandler]

AM, what happens if I develop concerns about Dubz being wolfy?

To follow, I'm not so sure Stagg is a wolf. But I feel like between the two could be a wolf.

 

[Stagg737]

I don't know. Maybe your strongest village read?

Anyway, please answer my other questions you said you would.

Fair, but I didn't think they'd be targeted at all, so felt like VMH was a better option.

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM, what happens if I develop concerns about Dubz being wolfy?

We talk about it because good villagers discuss things instead of whining about me talking to them.

 

[SARdoghandler]

We talk about it because good villagers discuss things instead of whining about me talking to them.

Well, if this isn't me trying to talk about it then I must be dreaming?

 

[Stagg737]

Unvote AM

Still not happy with her play, but more concerned with others right now.

@Animal Midwife , will be answering your questions one at a time as I reread. Can say for your first one Genny for sure since she jumped on Alissa pretty quickly that day. Would have felt much better about her being village if Alissa flipped wolf.