Basics 2.0: The Hubris of the Champions - Game Thread

[Stroganoff]

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He said "jumped" not "started" 😛

This is a teasing comment. Not meant to be antagonistic in any way

I coulda sworn I wasn't the first person to vote MsP... it just looks like I started the last minute bandwagon though.

 

[Navilly]

I coulda sworn I wasn't the first person to vote MsP... it just looks like I started the last minute bandwagon though.

I voted MsP starting I would go back and look at the last time they wolfed, look bad, saw stark differences in play styles, and switched my Lynch

 

[WildZoo]

Oh wow I have no idea but that's interesting.

Not to make dolphin's head explode with more talk of prior games or anything, I was just wondering (sorry dolphino)

She was, I think.

Hmmm. I'm not sure it matters or means anything, just popped into my head for some reason.

 

[Stroganoff]

Interesting, how do you usually think of zig?

Zen-like? I dunno, maybe I'm going off her pre-vet and Lounge posts.

@ziggyandjazzy did you play the Basics game in January? The hiking one with the mountains.

 

[WildZoo]

Zen-like? I dunno, maybe I'm going off her pre-vet and Lounge posts.

@ziggyandjazzy did you play the Basics game in January? The hiking one with the mountains.

Oh ok, I'm pretty sure she played that game but maybe it was one of the ones where she was killed early. Or something. Zen-like is not something I would associate with her in WW. The argumentative tone here is not, on its own, unusual for her.

 

[Stroganoff]

What can I say, I'm sweet and delicious

You don't want to do that, just saying. Also I might agree to it depending on where you smack

@Coopah, stahp pocketing the dudes. It's working.

I'm getting suspicious.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

A lynch vote for someone has nothing to do with you being a ****ty person or a non-****ty person? It's a game

I understand that. but I pretty ****ty about trying to get her to help me not get lynched and have that happen. Especially since I lynched her early last game, I feel really bad. She doesnt deserve that. And you know what? I AM tired of noobs getting lynched early game after game while you vets all circle jerk together. it's pretty old. You all have made it pretty clear that anyone new joining your games isn't really welcomed.

 

[Stroganoff]

Oh ok, I'm pretty sure she played that game but maybe it was one of the ones where she was killed early. Or something. Zen-like is not something I would associate with her in WW. The argumentative tone here is not, on its own, unusual for her.

Thanks, noted.

 

[Coopah]

@Coopah, stahp pocketing the dudes. It's working.

I'm getting suspicious.

You're a dude?!

 

[Coopah]

@Coopah, stahp pocketing the dudes. It's working.

I'm getting suspicious.

Also I have a feeling we would get on quite well IRL. This is my entire sense of humor

 

[PippyPony]

And you know what? I AM tired of noobs getting lynched early game after game while you vets all circle jerk together. it's pretty old. You all have made it pretty clear that anyone new joining your games isn't really welcomed.

I frequently heavily defend new players and your tenure has literally nothing to do with why I voted for you today. I'm sorry you feel that is the case.

 

[dolphin106258]

I feel really bad ok can we drop it. I'm already messaging her. I feel like a ****ty person enough

This wasn’t meant as a jab at you, more like I was confused. Sorry if it came across incorrectly.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Zen-like? I dunno, maybe I'm going off her pre-vet and Lounge posts.

@ziggyandjazzy did you play the Basics game in January? The hiking one with the mountains.

I just had to look. yeah I played that game

 

[Stroganoff]

You're a dude?!

*double-checks*



But NAI.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

###contingency Lynch ziggy####

have at it folks

 

[dolphin106258]

Not to make dolphin's head explode with more talk of prior games or anything, I was just wondering (sorry dolphino)


Hmmm. I'm not sure it matters or means anything, just popped into my head for some reason.

It’s okay my blood pressure lowered because you called me by my correct name of dolphino.

 

[genny]

Those that jumped on the MsP train, what was your logic?

I am fond of Ziggy, don't like to see her die early, and Ms. P's comment about making a 3-way sketched me out. I get anxious near lynch close, and usually waffle poorly. Most of the time I can resist the urge to move my vote needlessly, but not tonight. Can I blame it on the cognitive dissonance resulting from my transition from a bunny snuggle session to the wild accusations and arguing of WW?

 

[Coopah]

I understand that. but I pretty ****ty about trying to get her to help me not get lynched and have that happen. Especially since I lynched her early last game, I feel really bad. She doesnt deserve that. And you know what? I AM tired of noobs getting lynched early game after game while you vets all circle jerk together. it's pretty old. You all have made it pretty clear that anyone new joining your games isn't really welcomed.

I actually truly understand your frustrations. I believe I was also a person that bitched about veterans always lynching the newer players when I was a newer player. But you know what I got better and they stopped doing it. I feel your pain but that is not what happened here today. Promise

 

[dolphin106258]

###contingency Lynch ziggy####

have at it folks

Well now I definitely won’t do it. 😛

 

[Stroganoff]

I frequently heavily defend new players and your tenure has literally nothing to do with why I voted for you today. I'm sorry you feel that is the case.

Pshhh, you subbed in and chewed my ass. "Stop macking on the nooblets" "Stop manufacturing sketch" "Decide whether you're a noob or a vet"

Just messing. I appreciate your change of heart this game. 🙂

 

[Stroganoff]

Also I have a feeling we would get on quite well IRL. This is my entire sense of humor

OK, now you're really tryna pocket me. 😉

 

[PippyPony]

Pshhh, you subbed in and chewed my ass. "Stop macking on the nooblets" "Stop manufacturing sketch" "Decide whether you're a noob or a vet"

Just messing. I appreciate your change of heart this game. 🙂

Yeah well, maybe I know you can take some heat from a tiny girl and live to tell the tale 😉

 

[Stroganoff]

Yeah well, maybe I know you can take some heat from a tiny girl and live to tell the tale 😉

How tiny?

 

[WildZoo]

I understand that. but I pretty ****ty about trying to get her to help me not get lynched and have that happen. Especially since I lynched her early last game, I feel really bad. She doesnt deserve that. And you know what? I AM tired of noobs getting lynched early game after game while you vets all circle jerk together. it's pretty old. You all have made it pretty clear that anyone new joining your games isn't really welcomed.

No. Stop this. I have run multiple games specifically to get new players to join and I'll be damned if that effort and the effort of the people who volunteered to be mentors is forgotten because you guys have a chip on your shoulder about being lynched. None of us sit around chatting about how we're going to intentionally get new players lynched D1. In fact the only time I've actually seen that be a thing prior to this past dead chat was other veterans talking about the challenge of getting each other lynched D1. Newer players get lynched D1 for a lot of reasons, but it's not because we don't want you guys to play or because we sit around talking about how great it is to lynch noobs. Not to mention the pool of newer players is actually a lot bigger than the pool of veteran players in most games (depending on where you draw the line). So just statistically speaking, it's going to happen more often. Add on the fact that new players are often still figuring out their play style and how to come across as village to other players in the game, it is not surprising that lynches go through more often. It is harder to get a veteran players lynched because we have a lot of practice with what helps avoid getting lynched. But it is not a targeted, planned thing, and I'm pretty sick of it being portrayed as such. MsP wasn't just lynched by a bunch of veterans, was she?

 

[Coopah]

@genny 🤣 I'm dying halp

 

[genny]

MsP wasn't just lynched by a bunch of veterans, was she?

😳

 

[WildZoo]

😳

For shame 😛

 

[PippyPony]

How tiny?

Tiny.

 

[genny]

So this just occurred to me: in dead chat after the last game, ZJ was posting about how it was harmful to village not to role reveal when going down, but didn't post about her role despite being in the lead up until very close to lynch close. The inconsistency bothers me a little.

 

[dolphin106258]

Thanks @Coopah 😍

 

[WildZoo]

Day 1

cubs (1) - coop
cubs (0) - coop
pippy (1) - zig
cubs (1) - coop
MsP (1) - nelly
zig (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz, pip
nav (1) - dolphino
miz (1) - genny
MsP (2) - nelly, miz
MsP (1) - nelly, miz
genny (1) - nelly
pip (0) - zig
dubz (1) - zig
genny (2) - nelly, strog
genny (1) - nelly, strog
miz (2) - genny, MsP
MsP (0) - nelly, miz
zig (3) - dubz, pip, miz
strog (1) - nelly
genny (0) - nelly, strog
MsP (1) - strog
miz (1) - genny, MsP
MsP (2) - strog, genny
zig (2) - dubz, pip, miz
MsP (3) - strog, genny, miz
MsP (4) - strog, genny, miz, cubs
dubz (0) - zig
MsP (5) - strog, genny, miz, cubs, zig

 

[WildZoo]

So this just occurred to me: in dead chat after the last game, ZJ was posting about how it was harmful to village not to role reveal when going down, but didn't post about her role despite being in the lead up until very close to lynch close. The inconsistency bothers me a little.

I was going to say something about this too - not necessarily the dead chat bit, but just how it was interesting she said something to MsP about her role instead of posting it on thread, and then turned around and lynched MsP when that wasn't even necessary for self prez anymore. Very odd.

 

[WildZoo]

##lynch msp###

Also want to hear something about this vote because it appeared to come entirely out of left field

 

[WildZoo]

Overall 0/10, would not like to see that kind of psychotic end of lynch again

 

[Navilly]

Overall 0/10, would not like to see that kind of psychotic end of lynch again

But it involved a tie at one point. Are you making the claim that ties are no longer valuable in games like this? 🙂

 

[dolphin106258]

Official Day 1 Lynch Tally
cubs (1) - Coop
Pippy () -
MsP (5) - Strog, genny, miz, cubs, ziggy
ziggy (2) - dubz, Pippy
Nav (1) - dolphin
miz (1) - MsP
genny () -
dubz () -
Strog (1) - Nav

11/11
lynch closed

 

[WildZoo]

It's weird to know there are only 2 wolves here but feel like there are at least 5

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

So this just occurred to me: in dead chat after the last game, ZJ was posting about how it was harmful to village not to role reveal when going down, but didn't post about her role despite being in the lead up until very close to lynch close. The inconsistency bothers me a little.

I had a post lined up with my role on it and was going to vote with miz to tie it. I also planned to tell me role to msp, not like you care

I was going to say something about this too - not necessarily the dead chat bit, but just how it was interesting she said something to MsP about her role instead of posting it on thread, and then turned around and lynched MsP when that wasn't even necessary for self prez anymore. Very odd.

It was for self prez when I tried to type it out... just because people voted like two seconds in front of me doesn't mean I could see those. I was going to vote miz but had to untype and type quickly. Sorry I couldn't keep up I guess

 

[dolphin106258]

Am I AM now??

 

[dolphin106258]

It's weird to know there are only 2 wolves here but feel like there are at least 5

Same.

 

[Navilly]

It's weird to know there are only 2 wolves here but feel like there are at least 5

It’s almost like villagers can also be involved in bandwagons!!!

 

[WildZoo]

But it involved a tie at one point. Are you making the claim that ties are no longer valuable in games like this? 🙂

I was not referring to any ties that may or may not have occurred (if they did they lasted for all of two seconds), I was referring to sudden bandwagons in the last 5 minutes of the day

 

[dolphin106258]

But it involved a tie at one point. Are you making the claim that ties are no longer valuable in games like this? 🙂

I thought you said earlier the tie wouldn’t be beneficial to village for this kind of game.

 

[WildZoo]

It’s almost like villagers can also be involved in bandwagons!!!

It is one of the most frustrating things about villagers if you ask me. Makes it hard to tell them apart from wolfies trying to save their pals.

 

[Navilly]

I thought you said earlier the tie wouldn’t be beneficial to village for this kind of game.

I am and am trying to fight against Dubz’s tendency that ties are beneficial

 

[cubsrule4e]

@Coopah, stahp pocketing the dudes. It's working.

I'm getting suspicious.

She doesn’t want me anywhere near her pocket

 

[WildZoo]

I am and am trying to fight against Dubz’s tendency that ties are beneficial

Good luck with that, my love of ties goes back to my very first game 😉

 

[Stroganoff]

It's weird to know there are only 2 wolves here but feel like there are at least 5

 

[genny]

not like you care

 

[WildZoo]

I had a post lined up with my role on it and was going to vote with miz to tie it. I also planned to tell me role to msp, not like you care

It was for self prez when I tried to type it out... just because people voted like two seconds in front of me doesn't mean I could see those. I was going to vote miz but had to untype and type quickly. Sorry I couldn't keep up I guess

Just confused how you saw the votes in time to realize that they were swinging to MsP but not in time to see that one of them was also pulling a vote off of you