Basics 2.0: The Hubris of the Champions - Game Thread

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Navilly said:
Why does it make you look at me more? I did the exact same thing with multiple people last game. Dolphin just has the misfortune of playing multiple in a row with me where I find her sketchy
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Idk if you should bring up last game did that Barks argument really work that well. :shrug:
 
dolphin106258 said:
Idk if you should bring up last game did that Barks argument really work that well. :shrug:
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The barks one? Decently well, gave my my day two reads list which was pretty good for day 2. The you lurking? Less well, but it helped move you down on my list the more you talked. The more you talk this game, the higher you have gone, which is different from last game
 
Official Day 3 Lynch Tally
genny () -
Pippy () -
miz (1) - Pippy
dolphin (2) - miz, Nav

3/7
lynch close in ~3 hours
 
Navilly said:
The barks one? Decently well, gave my my day two reads list which was pretty good for day 2. The you lurking? Less well, but it helped move you down on my list the more you talked. The more you talk this game, the higher you have gone, which is different from last game
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Yes but just saying someone talking more or less doesn’t really equate to anything. Like I’m sorry I have more time this game to play and respond than last time. But I think overall my play this game has not been wolf-y and I’ve yet to see anyone articulate what about it is bothering them.

Plus if we’re gonna keep playing the past game and dead chat discussion didn’t you say based on that Barks thing D1 Paws couldn’t possibly be a wolf...and well she was. That’s all I’m saying. You aren’t full proof in your thinking and for you to continue to act like you are is the opposite of being helpful.
 
If we lose this game that is essentially won right now, I will point back to this moment as to why we lost, and specifically blame pippy for it, since she knows why this is mechanistically bad (voting dolphin over miz). With that I am out for awhile, going out to dinner with the wife.
 
Clarification: voting dolphin over miz is the correct m, voting miz over dolphin is incorrect.
 
Navilly said:
If we lose this game that is essentially won right now, I will point back to this moment as to why we lost, and specifically blame pippy for it, since she knows why this is mechanistically bad (voting dolphin over miz). With that I am out for awhile, going out to dinner with the wife.
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Even if miz is incorrect, we cant lose in one day, and can always lynch dolphin tomorrow, no?
 
dolphin106258 said:
Yes but just saying someone talking more or less doesn’t really equate to anything. Like I’m sorry I have more time this game to play and respond than last time. But I think overall my play this game has not been wolf-y and I’ve yet to see anyone articulate what about it is bothering them.

Plus if we’re gonna keep playing the past game and dead chat discussion didn’t you say based on that Barks thing D1 Paws couldn’t possibly be a wolf...and well she was. That’s all I’m saying. You aren’t full proof in your thinking and for you to continue to act like you are is the opposite of being helpful.
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Mechanistically, I can be close to fool proof with my approach. Reads nah, everyone is fallible, but if I go in with “this person may be a wolf” doesn’t have the same ring to it or force behind it. I am strong in everything I say or do, you get a feel for it after awhile. But I congratulated paws on great play multiple times in dead chat.

Mechanics are a different story. If I have wolves mechanistically in checkmate, and people f that up, then I get mad. And going out now, see you all in a bit, don’t mess this up.
 
WildZoo said:
I don't get this mechanics argument so unless it's explained more or I'm given a better reason to trust it I'm gonna have to ignore it lol
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Pippy is stopping me from explaining it, but pippy is well aware of it, and knows it partially involves her as well. A full explanstion will be posted tomorrow morning at 9:59:59 to avoid any changes in strategy. But wolf loses if dolphin is lynched, regardless of if dolphin is wolf
 
WildZoo said:
I haven't decided yet and am waiting for her to respond
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What would you like responded to? At the point I have laid out how my game play from day 1 has been the antithesis of anti-wolf play. I’ve also laid out logically how there is a pool of 2-3 people that houses the remaining wolf.
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
What would you like responded to? At the point I have laid out how my game play from day 1 has been the antithesis of anti-wolf play. I’ve also laid out logically how there is a pool of 2-3 people that houses the remaining wolf.
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I mean, I asked questions in my post...
 
Navilly said:
Pippy is stopping me from explaining it, but pippy is well aware of it, and knows it partially involves her as well. A full explanstion will be posted tomorrow morning at 9:59:59 to avoid any changes in strategy. But wolf loses if dolphin is lynched, regardless of if dolphin is wolf
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Who is the wolf if it's not dolphin?
 
Navilly said:
Pippy is stopping me from explaining it, but pippy is well aware of it, and knows it partially involves her as well. A full explanstion will be posted tomorrow morning at 9:59:59 to avoid any changes in strategy. But wolf loses if dolphin is lynched, regardless of if dolphin is wolf
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But I don’t want to be lynched thanks very much. I have no reason to believe you’re for sure village so I don’t understand why you think everyone should follow suit.
 
WildZoo said:
That's not how bus driver works silly. It's not redirection. I thought you designed this game?

Anyway, the reason it probably looks odd based on reads is I was expecting the opposite result.


I'm confused why you're so mad about something that netted a wolf


Did she though?


Coop's not stupid. Well within her abilities t mention her wolf partner as sketch while not actually voting for them or really putting them in danger.


Those look pretty hedgey to me


Mentioning as sketchy =/= bussing
I agree the wolf pair was unlikely to really be pushing each other, but complete ignoring is also unlikely imo

Again, why are you so mad about something that netted a wolf?
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I’m not angry in the slightest that it netted a wolf. It appears I misunderstood how the bus driver role actually worked. I’m less upset about the logic behind that now.

Coopah was on my case for a large majority of yesterday, pretty much calling everything I did half baked or not well thought out and continued to antagonize all of the logic I put out there. That on top of putting me in her top 3, when she wasn’t under any suspicion whatsoever, is what leads me to say that. Regardless of Coopah, my actions on the first day of game play are not at all consistent with wolf play. I’ve wolfed before and I’m a lot more careful as a wolf and try not to draw attention to myself. I essentially put a spotlight on myself on day one because I have nothing at all to hide.

And yes, Coopah did throw a lot of shade at Nav yesterday. I’m on phone, can get quotes eventually.
 
Cubs, if you want more information feel free to pm me as you are cleared, can answer pms in code on the main thread, just make sure you provide a code decryptor in the pm. Getting seated for dinner now, will respond after
 
About to see Detective Pikachu so...

It basically comes down to whether coop decided to defend her partner (she called dolphin her most village read) or not quite bus, but at least throw shade (miz or nelly).

I'm inclined to believe the latter, on top of the fact that I've been reading dolphin village.

I liked miz's response, plus after reading over some of coop's posts and their interactions again I'm more ok with her.

I don't really like how nelly has come out trying to direct things as if he's cleared and everyone should just trust what he says. Also got a bad feel from his response to night results.

lynch nelly
 
Navilly said:
If we lose this game that is essentially won right now, I will point back to this moment as to why we lost, and specifically blame pippy for it, since she knows why this is mechanistically bad (voting dolphin over miz).
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That's not what I meant by improving your pocketing attempts 😉

Navilly said:
Clarification: voting dolphin over miz is the correct m, voting miz over dolphin is incorrect.
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I think I will vote for who I think the most likely wolf is, thanks

Navilly said:
Mechanistically, I can be close to fool proof with my approach.

Mechanics are a different story. If I have wolves mechanistically in checkmate, and people f that up, then I get mad. And going out now, see you all in a bit, don’t mess this up.
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This is allllmost enough to make me swap you with Miz. Finally, there is the Ultimate Powerwolf attitude, thank you for finally showing up to play.

Navilly said:
Pippy is stopping me from explaining it, but pippy is well aware of it, and knows it partially involves her as well. A full explanstion will be posted tomorrow morning at 9:59:59 to avoid any changes in strategy. But wolf loses if dolphin is lynched, regardless of if dolphin is wolf
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Real talk I actually have no clue what you are raving about right now, and I'm not sure how I am stopping you from explaining anything that you really shouldn't be explaining anyhow lol.

I repeat: I'm voting for who I think the most likely wolf is based on a combination of mechanics and reads. I don't see how that's "mechanistically bad."
 
Navilly said:
If we lose this game that is essentially won right now, I will point back to this moment as to why we lost, and specifically blame pippy for it, since she knows why this is mechanistically bad (voting dolphin over miz). With that I am out for awhile, going out to dinner with the wife.
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So miz has told me what her role is and also said that she doesn’t plan to use it. I don’t understand why it would be better to leave that in the game rather than dolphin’s used up vig shot.
 
If anyone is interested, I will vote for myself tomorrow and leave my vote there until I die. It won’t matter at that point. But only if dolphin is lynched today. Repeat, will not fight the vote if done tomorrow. (On that note, whoever babysitter is, DO NOT use your role tonight. Same with regretful tracker, DO NOT use it ).
 
Navilly said:
If anyone is interested, I will vote for myself tomorrow and leave my vote there until I die. It won’t matter at that point. But only if dolphin is lynched today. Repeat, will not fight the vote if done tomorrow. (On that note, whoever babysitter is, DO NOT use your role tonight. Same with regretful tracker, DO NOT use it ).
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If....we lynch dophin and shes a wolf... there is no game tomorrow. So what are you even talking about?
 
Navilly said:
If anyone is interested, I will vote for myself tomorrow and leave my vote there until I die. It won’t matter at that point. But only if dolphin is lynched today. Repeat, will not fight the vote if done tomorrow. (On that note, whoever babysitter is, DO NOT use your role tonight. Same with regretful tracker, DO NOT use it ).
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I'm just going to remind you that my track record for success when following along with things like this is not great lol.
 
cubsrule4e said:
If....we lynch dophin and shes a wolf... there is no game tomorrow. So what are you even talking about?
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Pm me, give me a numeric/symbol code to work with, I will type a message corresponding to the appropriate symbols, and explain to you what is going on. If you choose to reveal it afterwards, you are welcome to.
 
Navilly said:
If anyone is interested, I will vote for myself tomorrow and leave my vote there until I die. It won’t matter at that point. But only if dolphin is lynched today. Repeat, will not fight the vote if done tomorrow. (On that note, whoever babysitter is, DO NOT use your role tonight. Same with regretful tracker, DO NOT use it ).
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I don’t even know what to make of this...I think I’m just hurt why I’m the lynch pin of this plan. Or maybe I’m hurt because I don’t get to be in on the secrets I don’t know.
 
dolphin106258 said:
I don’t even know what to make of this...I think I’m just hurt why I’m the lynch pin of this plan. Or maybe I’m hurt because I don’t get to be in on the secrets I don’t know.
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It’s unfortunate but you are the person with the most sketch on them that needs to go down for this to be a guaranteed win. I also think you are most likely by a long shot, but that’s another story I guess and is based on biases. This plan involves me dying either tonight or tomorrow during the day, so if you think it’s me, I will be joining you shortly. But if either me or miz is lynched in this Lynch (or genny or cubs) then the plan doesn’t work.
 
PippyPony said:
I actually don't understand why you are the MUST DO lynch today haha.

I kind of know what he's talking about beyond that, but I don't understand why I can't vote for anyone else but you :shrug:
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Okay well I mean personally I know I’m just a village vig with no more shots so like I know I’m not useful mechanics wise but I was just lost why it has to be me.
 
Navilly said:
It’s unfortunate but you are the person with the most sketch on them that needs to go down for this to be a guaranteed win. I also think you are most likely by a long shot, but that’s another story I guess and is based on biases. This plan involves me dying either tonight or tomorrow during the day, so if you think it’s me, I will be joining you shortly. But if either me or miz is lynched in this Lynch (or genny or cubs) then the plan doesn’t work.
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But what if just hang on with me for a second, I know Genny and cubs are village and it’s really just down to you or Miz and we could easily solve it without all the secret nonsense.
 
Navilly said:
It’s unfortunate but you are the person with the most sketch on them that needs to go down for this to be a guaranteed win. I also think you are most likely by a long shot, but that’s another story I guess and is based on biases. This plan involves me dying either tonight or tomorrow during the day, so if you think it’s me, I will be joining you shortly. But if either me or miz is lynched in this Lynch (or genny or cubs) then the plan doesn’t work.
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You are going to need to explain this for me more explicitly because I think either I am missing something or you are
 
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