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So thrilled-- ii for Oct. 28!!
Campbell University (CUSOM) DIscussion Thread 2013 - 2014
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it's gotta be per person. it's gotta
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From what I've been looking at there are homes you can buy that would cost ~500 a month. Some even cheaper.
I got the whole house for that amount. I was surprised at the amount too, b/c when I drove by I thought it would be out of my price range.
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I plan to put a deposit down here.
Kind of a weird question though....How long does it take to complete the criminal background check AND initiate the drug screen?
Just trying to get a timeframe of things. I'd greatly appreciate it, thanks!
Kind of a weird question though....How long does it take to complete the criminal background check AND initiate the drug screen?
Just trying to get a timeframe of things. I'd greatly appreciate it, thanks!
I would advise anyone planning to chose this school to not come.
They have already dismissed students in the first two months for poor grades.
This is not worth going to. They do not try to retain their students and are misleading.
This happened to my cousin and I'm gonna vouch for her experiences.
They have already dismissed students in the first two months for poor grades.
This is not worth going to. They do not try to retain their students and are misleading.
This happened to my cousin and I'm gonna vouch for her experiences.
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3 weeks for me
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I'm going to call BS. They don't have remediation for nothing and all of the support they offer I can't imagine doesn't exist after they sold it to us. If it is true that's pretty damning but again I doubt it with all of the services they seemed so willing and able to provide to struggling students.
Ps sorry if I'm inadvertently feeding the troll
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Yep, it's a troll. Nice try. I happen to go to school here, we started with 162 and still have 162. I also know people who successfully remediated. They are as advertised in every way.
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We have 160 students now.
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Really? Did these students drop or get kicked out for academics? I feel like they did a really good job of remediating the people that were having trouble. I didn't notice that anyone was missing.
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Yes, it is true. However, from my understanding these students were dismissed for poor grades and failing multiple courses. However, this is speculation. I was told that they may be offered a seat in c/o 2018. Once again, speculation. But, I know several people that were remediated successfully. I think that those who were dismissed were extreme cases.
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Yes, these must have been extreme cases because I know people that failed multiple classes and were still able to remediate.
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Curious if anyone would comment on interview "curveball" questions and rotation strength. Thanks!
I don't remember anything too bad. Mine were pretty straightforward. As far as rotations, we haven't gone on any yet but there are a lot of them - I think they have over 200.
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I am sorry things worked out the way they did for her and was sad to see the two students leave (I was good friends with the other student also dismissed) but I want this to be clear for prospective students and others on SDN, since its such a prominent place for learning about schools and programs...
CUSOM administration has a very transparent and clear process concerning all of these things and has communicated them to us along the way. Unfortunately, med school is a brutal process and while CUSOM does what it can to support us at the end of the day it is an individual journey and sometimes doing right by the student means bad news. With the investment of time and money involved in the process and the recognition that Boards must be passed by each student... these may have all been involved with the establishment of the policy (which is clear in the student handbook).
Every med school in the country will have students dismissed or choose to leave. This is unique to no program.
I do wish her all the best though
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I got a complete email on Tuesday after I submitted everything about 3 weeks ago. What's the usual turnaround from the complete to a decision for you guys?
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Interviewed 10/22
Rejected 10/24, 11:52 AM via e-mail
Stats: UG GPA 3.2 Overall (UNC-Chapel Hill)
UG sGPA 3.0
SMP Postbac/Grad Program GPA: 3.63 (Classes: Histology, Gross Anatomy, Neuroscience, Neuroanatomy, Cell Physiology, Medical Physiology, Immunology, Microbiology, etc--A challenging program, I assure you)
MCAT:29R
Asian Male. Extensive clinical experience/volunteer experience. 2,000+ hours working with medically, socioeconomically underserved populations. Worked in a homeless hospice home as a nurse's aide for 1 year (40 hrs/wk). EMT-Intermediate, Shadowed 10+ doctors and completed 200+ hours shadowing experience. Other meaningful, volunteer/EC experiences that I did throughout undergrad. Very passionate about serving the NC underserved/rural communities. Lived in NC 24.5 years of my life. Live 30 minutes away from CUSOM. Used to attend basketball camp at Campbell in middle school summers.
Interview went extremely well, I thought. But then again, that is only how I perceived it.
I am mature enough to know that my undergraduate efforts leave much to be desired, but I also thought that I had done sufficiently enough to remedy that. I have a strong PS that reflects on my experiences, and catered my secondary strongly (and honestly) towards CUSOM's mission.
I really do think my interview's with the 3 prof's went well. One was odd though, but still good--this was with Dr. Terreberry. He asked me if I planned on becoming an "Obamacare lobbyist in Raleigh in 10 years", because I majored in Health Policy as an undergraduate. I am also a health insurance navigator for the Affordable Care Act, and he condescendingly asked me (very smugly, I assure you) "Hmph! So, how's thatworking out for you?". Fact of the matter is, I needed a job, and my health policy expertise fit quite well with my current job. I am not politically inclined whatsoever. I made a pretty good case for my commitment to osteopathic ideals, and he countered with "Have you told this to your father?". (Full Disclosure: My father is an MD--not that it should matter) All that aside, he said that my experience spoke volumes about my commitment to underserved populations.
Finally, I realize nobody is guaranteed acceptance anywhere. I do not claim some divine right to be a physician, but I have worked pretty daggum hard to merit an acceptance. I really felt this was the one, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Great school. Amazing facilities. For those accepted, take full advantage!
I would appreciate any feedback if anyone feels so inclined. 😕
Rejected 10/24, 11:52 AM via e-mail
Stats: UG GPA 3.2 Overall (UNC-Chapel Hill)
UG sGPA 3.0
SMP Postbac/Grad Program GPA: 3.63 (Classes: Histology, Gross Anatomy, Neuroscience, Neuroanatomy, Cell Physiology, Medical Physiology, Immunology, Microbiology, etc--A challenging program, I assure you)
MCAT:29R
Asian Male. Extensive clinical experience/volunteer experience. 2,000+ hours working with medically, socioeconomically underserved populations. Worked in a homeless hospice home as a nurse's aide for 1 year (40 hrs/wk). EMT-Intermediate, Shadowed 10+ doctors and completed 200+ hours shadowing experience. Other meaningful, volunteer/EC experiences that I did throughout undergrad. Very passionate about serving the NC underserved/rural communities. Lived in NC 24.5 years of my life. Live 30 minutes away from CUSOM. Used to attend basketball camp at Campbell in middle school summers.
Interview went extremely well, I thought. But then again, that is only how I perceived it.
I am mature enough to know that my undergraduate efforts leave much to be desired, but I also thought that I had done sufficiently enough to remedy that. I have a strong PS that reflects on my experiences, and catered my secondary strongly (and honestly) towards CUSOM's mission.
I really do think my interview's with the 3 prof's went well. One was odd though, but still good--this was with Dr. Terreberry. He asked me if I planned on becoming an "Obamacare lobbyist in Raleigh in 10 years", because I majored in Health Policy as an undergraduate. I am also a health insurance navigator for the Affordable Care Act, and he condescendingly asked me (very smugly, I assure you) "Hmph! So, how's thatworking out for you?". Fact of the matter is, I needed a job, and my health policy expertise fit quite well with my current job. I am not politically inclined whatsoever. I made a pretty good case for my commitment to osteopathic ideals, and he countered with "Have you told this to your father?". (Full Disclosure: My father is an MD--not that it should matter) All that aside, he said that my experience spoke volumes about my commitment to underserved populations.
Finally, I realize nobody is guaranteed acceptance anywhere. I do not claim some divine right to be a physician, but I have worked pretty daggum hard to merit an acceptance. I really felt this was the one, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Great school. Amazing facilities. For those accepted, take full advantage!
I would appreciate any feedback if anyone feels so inclined. 😕
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I spoke with a few of the students whom were required to remediate and they all told me the same thing. The professors were very helpful, they would sit down one on one with you and go over the material you were having trouble with over and over until you understood it. The faculty and staff were supportive and caring, and it really helped motivate them to do better. They were also guided with new study methods and advice, boosting their confidence to start anew for block 2.
That being said, you cannot expect there to be a remediation process for everyone. Those that don't do so well or are borderline just need that extra week of remediation to grasp the material and change their study habits. To those that completely BOMB the entire block and fail >5 classes could only mean either they weren't taking medical school seriously and not studying hard, or simply they could not handle the work load. The truth hurts. I'm sorry about what happened to your cousin, but medical school is just not a good fit for everyone, and she should be lucky she found that out early instead of say after year 2. Maybe in the future she can retry, but obviously she cannot handle it at this moment. I wish her all the best in her future endeavors.
That being said, you cannot expect there to be a remediation process for everyone. Those that don't do so well or are borderline just need that extra week of remediation to grasp the material and change their study habits. To those that completely BOMB the entire block and fail >5 classes could only mean either they weren't taking medical school seriously and not studying hard, or simply they could not handle the work load. The truth hurts. I'm sorry about what happened to your cousin, but medical school is just not a good fit for everyone, and she should be lucky she found that out early instead of say after year 2. Maybe in the future she can retry, but obviously she cannot handle it at this moment. I wish her all the best in her future endeavors.
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Sorry for spreading misinformation everyone, but I was under the impression that we still had 162. With that being said, I agree with what has been said about the support from CUSOM. They have been very helpful, and I also heard similar things from people that had to remediate. I guess with 162 people and a grueling medical school curriculum you have to expect that a couple of people won't make it through. It can be really easy to get behind and feel overwhelmed with the course load. I wish your cousin the best of luck as well, and I hope she can get back in school in the near future.
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**UPDATE**
I spoke with Joy Henderson on the phone. I asked her how I could improve my application for future application cycles and she told me that there was no area that needed improvement. I asked her if there were any red flags or fatal flaws in my application and she also said "no". She said that based on the interviewers feed back it was determined that I simply was not a good fit. It was not a matter of reapplying or improving stats, but just that I was not a good fit.
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I'm sorry about that bornandbred...it's got to be hard enough to not get the acceptance but then to have a vague explanation probably stings. Just trust that your stats are in range for an acceptance somewhere else. I think it's just one of those things where sometimes we click with a person and sometimes we rub each other the wrong way (for fair or unfair reasons). I thought I was toast after an awkward exchange with an interviewer, they were super polite and professional but that few minutes was not very comfortable as I felt med school slipping out of my fingers. And it ended up working out. It should work out for you somewhere soon, keep your head up and good luck on the application trail 👍
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No doubt, all med schools end up dismissing some students but after only 2 months? Seems really quick and I do not know what kind of remediation they could have been offered if they are already gone after 2 months. Really concerns me actually.
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I kinda agree. failing out of med school after two months... yikes!
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The remediation process is actually very beneficial and fair. If you have to remediate, you first meet with the deans and explain your reasoning for your poor performance, what you plan to do to do better, etc... It's not just a grade/performance thing, you have to show them that you actually want to be there. My guess is, is that that person's cousin that got dismissed must have not shown enthusiasm or passion at that hearing, or said something they didn't like. That on top of the borderline grades and numerous fails must have been severe enough to ask her to leave. Babying or being too lenient on those kinds of students is detrimental for future patients as well as the school's reputation so you have to do what's best for everyone, including that girl.
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I can agree with what you said but unfortunately you don't really know whether this is what occurred during their remediation. They could have done the complete opposite and shown a desire to improve. It's all speculation, but what we do know is that its two months in and 2 people have already been dismissed which seems too quick to me. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many other schools that have dismissed students this soon.
One of the main reasons that I already sent my deposit into Campbell was because I got the impression that they are very very serious about their students success and are willing to work hard to insure you are given absolutely everything you need to obtain that success. Dismissing two students after one block just seems very quick even in the event that the students weren't doing their part in their studies. Lets be honest, you don't get into medical school by being a terrible student and I am just thinking there is possibly more that could have been done to find a way for these students to succeed. This quick dismissal is likened to law school and not so much medical school (the whole look to the left and right of you and one of you will not be here at graduation). I am not trying to bad mouth Campbell. My instinct says Campbell had a very valid reason to dismiss the students and they made the best decision. I guess it just scares/concerns me and I would like to know more details about the incident. It's likely that part of my inquiry is just shell shock and a reality check to the fact that getting in is not getting "out of the woods".
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Yeah, I'm basically where you are at hothamh2o, I know that graduation rates are almost 95% (after 10 years to account for md/phd on the allopathic side https://www.aamc.org/download/102346/data/ ) so I'm fully aware that means for whatever reason 5-6% never make it to graduation day. With the standard ego and optimism of all premed students I've always told myself there was no way I'd end up in that 5%. It just seems pretty quick to drop someone if you aren't giving their money back and there were no behavioral/ethical issues. A years tuition for 2 months and a goodbye letter? There are obviously two sides to the story and there is no way to get the school's side as it would be inappropriate for them to do so, but it does give you pause to think. I still consider myself blessed beyond measure to get my acceptance, I'm still showing up and still optimistic but an occurrence like this sure will add to the level of stress I will approach exams. May God help us all through our process...I couldn't imagine having to tell me wife I was sent home...can't even fathom it
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Of course it's all speculation. It's rare for a school to dismiss a student so soon based solely on poor performance, and so I was theorizing possibilities that could have led to such grounds for dismissal. I'm not saying that's exactly what happened. We don't know what the reasons the school had, but they did have reason. But that's neither here nor there. All I know is that there were a fair amount of students that remediated and every one of the ones I spoke with couldn't be more pleased with the caring nature of the faculty/staff.
Ah well. 160/162 is still only a 1% attrition rate if we all graduate, which I'm pretty optimistic about.
A FAIR amount already remediated? That worries me more than the fact that two students were already dismissed...
To further clarify what happened regarding student dismissal; I actually underwent remediation and can further explain the entire process if anybody has specific questions regarding that. Following a block of courses the administration will curve grades appropriately and if you are still failing multiple classes you are asked to speak to the APPS committee consisting of department chairs and deans explaining why you think some classes went poorly and how you propose to improve yourself. Based on their impression of you as a student, how close you were to passing, how many classes you had failed, etc. they make a decision whether or not to grant remediation. As long as all of the prior conditions are met within reason remediation will be granted, however in the case of one of the students who was dismissed, the APPS committee had decided based on the number of courses failed along with other factors that remediation should not be granted. The student was asked to speak with the Dean to determine where to go from there, so they were not immediately "kicked out" but rather given a chance to talk things out and figure out a possible game plan going forward. It was my impression, as well as the impression of several others I have spoken to, that said meeting ultimately decided the student's fate (albeit that's just speculation). CUSOM is definitely still evolving and figuring things out as they go along with us 1st year's as the guinea pigs, but I would fully back the fact that all of the faculty wants nothing more that to help us and see us succeed. They have done an excellent job of creating an environment where CUSOM feels like one big family and while it is discerning to see students leave, it was not without thorough investigation and proper consideration.
I hope this eases some worries of potential future students about retention and again if you have any specific questions regarding remediation or really anything please pm me.
I hope this eases some worries of potential future students about retention and again if you have any specific questions regarding remediation or really anything please pm me.
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Lol "fair" is used as a relative term. To me, 10/162 is a fair amount. I'm not sure how many remediated but I think it was around 15? Maybe my colleague above could shed more light on it. Very well written post g24
I wish you knew more of "why," that's such a vague reply. I'm interviewing soon, does anyone have any clue how many of the current seats are filled (how many out of 162)? Or is that something that won't be known until after 11/15? I see that there's only 29 members in the FB group tonight, so I'm guessing that's a conservative 100 out of 162 seats offered??? haha CUSOM is actually my #1 pick, I applied late last year and interviewed here but only got on the waitlist (interview was in February). Loved the school, can't wait to go back.
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Just figured I'd toss this out...my wife is in education (state license and a M.EdL) and looking for job up there...anybody have any connections with schools near campus?
sb247, is your wife licensed for NC? My fiance and I have been looking into NC licensure (she will receive her SC licensure at the end of this year which will be her 2nd year). We have been trying to determine if she would have to be evaluated for another 2 years all over again to receive certification in NC or if she can essentially apply for an NC license due to already being licensed and certified in SC. Wondering if ya'll had looked into the same thing? She has a bachelor's and will have 2 years experience.
This seems to be pretty informative and it seems to be just an application process, but still not sure.
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She has turned in her papers and should be granted a full license transfer from our state
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I am wondering the same info... Have you heard anything from anyone? I was accepted on 10/24 and realize we have 30-days to decide but does ALL of the matriculation stuff need to be in as well as the $1,500 deposit by 30-days or just the deposit?
Thanks!
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For my group it was the $1500, the matriculation agreemet and the background/drug check.....it might vary though so check with them
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Everything sb247 mentioned should be in by the date.
The background check doesn't take long, you'll get results in a day.
The drug check on the other hand, wtf. Certiphi does not give good instructions at all as to what to do next. They only listed labcorp groups in North Carolina. Am i really expected to travel to NC to get a drug test lol?
I guess ill just have to call them tomorrow
The background check doesn't take long, you'll get results in a day.
The drug check on the other hand, wtf. Certiphi does not give good instructions at all as to what to do next. They only listed labcorp groups in North Carolina. Am i really expected to travel to NC to get a drug test lol?
I guess ill just have to call them tomorrow
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Thanks for the heads up! Please post back once you hear about the drug screen and what not.
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Im pretty sure the results are automatically sent over. At least the background check. Haven't figured out info on drug screen yet
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So I got an email reminding me that I am on the waitlist (like I might of forgot that bit of information). Does this mean that they re-evaluated me and decided to keep me on the waitlist or just a friendly reminder? Did any other waitlist people get this email? I was super excited when I saw the email that said Admission Status, being already on the waitlist I thought it was an acceptance. 😵
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