You're saying a lot can be gained from the deaths, but I don't know if the rest of us agree based on the discussion that Dubz, Zenge and I had this morning. Obviously we gained data, which has been discussed at length, but I don't know how that new data should change my reads list.
Well, there's obvious reasons to do that lol
If you look back, you were in at least 4 POEs (mine, shorty's, Zenge's, and Lawpy's). I would not be surprised at all if you were a village kill, and would be really confused if you were a scum target.
Why squinting at Zenge?
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Barring scum trying really hard to take out other scum and get on the blocc's good side I guess. That is possible.
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I agree with a lot of shorty’s list, and I specifically want more pressure on genny, MKG, and True. Still concerned about Lumi and WO2, but less so. Dubz, Z, and Vis are all hanging out on the village side of neutral. I’m hoping Lumi comes back soon, along with hoping to hear more from Wonder and Staygo.
Why am I the only one laugh reacting this?? I’m picturing PSV’s gay ghost being beamed up into a spaceship and cracking tf up.
I agree with this post from Lawpy, I don’t see how MKG is village based on tone at all
Would you be willing to share or elaborate on those tinfoils?
Why are you less concerned about Lumi?
I guess my tinfoil and uneasiness first is because shorty, who is strong village, is dead, and was very much pushing for you. I have not played much with you other than anniversary and we stumped but that’s hard for me to gauge because we were on the same team. The other thing that the tinfoil is based upon is that lying is easier when shrouded in truth. You have said repeatedly that your 3 rands were Town Lover, Town Lover, and a scum role you used for ability. You have reiterated this more than any other player has. It’s throwing me off and wondering if the lover you used for aff was town after all. You also have said that you’re 100% not a wolf. And that pinged me because this is multi ball and wolf isn’t the only faction. The top post in my quote also pinged me because it read very assured when I am very unsure what factions are out there. So my little tinfoil is that you could be Mafia Bloodsucker. Your rands were Town Lover, Mafia Lover, and Alien bloodsucker. Discarded town lover, used mafia lover for aff, and alien bloodsucker for ability. It is very tinfoil-y I know. I could be wrong about your aff. But I’m leaning towards you to be the bloodsucker… definitely somewhat stretchy I know… somewhat gut feels and tunneling
I just don’t get why chaos would lie about it in the first place if a packmate doesn’t have the card. Like when I scummed in CYO last year, I’m pretty sure I just claimed vanilla townie for my aff instead of hardcore risking it with a role that definitely could’ve been claimed by someone else. Chaos is in general probably a riskier player than me, but I still don’t get it at all.
Yeah I get this 100%, and it outlines (in a funny way) why I’m not feeling the best about genny rn either
I agreeThat "Well, frick" was such a pure reaction
I like your thought process but I just really cannot see why this would’ve been chaos’ play in the first place
Yes, this is true. If they are town I just don’t understand why they needed to start their thread entrance off with a complete lie. It’s unnecessary and all it did was catch them suspicion, when instead they could’ve stayed under the radar and not risked their blood hood ability right off the bat. Plus the fact that I think it’s highly suspicious that Lumi is even still around right now and wasn’t one of the 37346 people that died overnight.
Same, I’m hoping this has been clarified by Alissa
I had another response to this but I don’t remember it now 😔
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Everyone is sus in multiball.
Combining some of these things together to think through things again...
Who is most sus?
Agreed
A lot of tonal things that didn’t sit right, he kept changing his story on reasoning, and people who’ve played wolf true provided quotes from wolf games that sounded in line with his play here
Lawpy’s last POE
The coffee I spent that $5 on was the best coffee I’ve ever had 😂
Is true someone who would want to eliminate as many of the people raising suspicions of him as possible?
I’m sensing a theme that all of them were interested in a True vote. That seems really obvious though, and whatever scum team True is on couldn’t have eliminated all of them, right? That’d be ridiculous
Lawpy was in several people’s village blocs, so he makes sense as a scum NK target imo
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Vis, what does cc mean? And why does everyone know what it means except for me?
That’s a totally valid position to have, but I’ve already said that I think Lumi’s decision to lie right off the bat is anti-village play. Also, your fake claim in that game reslly only has a benefit from a village perspective. Lumi’s play could easily be from a scum perspective or a village perspective
Do you have night info or something? I don’t get how you can know this
You guys solve things?
So I was mistakenly looking at the role and affiliation as a unit, once again, forgetting that role and affiliation are split.
later
Yep, mindmelding with Dubz again. She’s right, Lumi would benefit from that play as scum as well. Your fake claim was benefit as a villager only.
Or it could have been scum trying to get closer to parity. I feel like there were people deeper in the POE that would’ve been stump-vigged before Alissa.
Being scum in CYO II was one of my most fun wolfing games.
I didn’t even have a real scum option. The one shot townie was technically 3P I guess, but a survivor wincon is barely scum imoI could have gone with scum masonor just nilla scum
Exactly. It seems pretty odd to me, even if there are some protection mechanisms in this game
I really don’t think Lumi has enough traction rn for scum to completely hold off on trying to NK them. There were only 3 of us voting for them last night.
It’s because you’re a terrifying wolf Dubz
Exactly! Lumi could very easily be a scum bloodhound too
I haven't even won since Shots!
This is how I feel. Even if they’re scum, n-1 factions still decided not to target them, so I don’t see it as a crazy stretch that they’re not and n factions all decided not to target them
I'm so glad you understood what I was saying because I felt like I was just rambling nonsense lol
Historically no, I don't
but boy do I try...
That’s a really good point, but I’m thinking that scum just chose to ignore Lumi and assume they’re lying. Or maybe scum did attempt something (terrifying thought) and Lumi was protected. I really need them to come back to the thread though so I can get a better grasp on what they’re doing
I didn’t have anything happen to me
This post is extremely wolfy to me, especially the bolded part. At the very least, from a scum perspective you know everyone that’s not your affiliation, so I could see scum!True putting several strong villagers in the village bloc exactly for this reason. Like this: “see I was right about my villagers, but I haven’t caught scum yet. Darn!!!l
Because they’re not here to defend themselves, I think they’re going to be self-resolving (scum takes them out hopefully), or they come on here and name their night target. Also kind of worried that several people I’m scum-reading are also intent on yeeting Lumi.
That’s it? That’s all you have? Can we please have a POE or something?
And yet I’m shocked every time because I really just don’t understand why someone risks lying when they really, really don’t need to lie at all.
I’ve never won a wolf game and the closest I got was actually CYO II. And I haven’t wolfed since then.
Agree. I think Vis is village too, so that’s a lot of people who are all agreeing True is scum. I’ve never actually played with scum True so I wouldn’t know what he looks like scumming.
Apparently, True.
All scum factions chose to frame True last night, rather than go for Lumi.
I'll think about it. I should have dinner first or something.
You played Globe with scum!True, though I guess since you died n1 it wouldn't be the best data point lol
You're not pursuing your Wonder theory?
True killed like 4 people last night, it's totally him. Forget about Wonder.
genny pls
I was really surprised when I got Quadruple Murderizer as my role, but who am I to complain?
