England - Game Thread

[SportPonies]

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Okay mom, but the salt can live forever. Right @SportPonies ?

Just keep splashing, Staggikarp.

 

[mkg323]

@Viscernable Could I interest you in a bread vote? I really dont think either of us getting yeeted would be beneficial

 

[SportPonies]

Also @SportPonies

Zenge's post is probably the most succinct summary?


There's more which you can find by ISOing zenge and mkg but this is the gist of the argument I guess

thanks!

 

[Dinashadow]

###Unvote Finn ###
for now until I can find a better reason

Why are you trying to yeet Finn if you don't have a good reason for it?

 

[Zenge142]

I really want to see my theory play out, which makes me want to vote finn. Nothing she has done has rang particularly village or wolfy though to be honesy

MKG had a lot going on today and I don’t know if she’s the right vote. I actually don’t feel the greatest about that action.

With regards to your theory, are you leaning Finn more than AM for the wolf?

With regards to MKG, there’s a lot more than just today to consider.

 

[WildZoo]

It does start to feel a bit like the april vote as far as timing goes. I really wish people had voted earlier in the cycle.

I also don't love how the vis wagon kind of dissipated without much effort from vis herself. I'm not sure if that's a sign of wolfiness there, or just that the people who were on it didn't really believe in their votes. But I have to look to see who moved.

 

[The_Breadmann]

Why are you trying to yeet Finn if you don't have a good reason for it?

reason was thinking that there was a wolf from each area, her area has been mostly cleaned out and I felt a little better about AM

 

[samac]

Why break it towards April instead of DocE?

If you were around at that time you would know about my sheriff tinfoil and April was very open to me in PMs , giving me reads and asking for details about PM from day 0 when everyone else said they couldn’t trust me. So I was initially suspicious of her. Placed my vote there and she role revealed with 8 minutes to close with the role I thought the sheriff would try to clear herself.
and on a selfish note if she was being honest I thought it would prove my location matters theory because if it does the sheriff should be in the north with Robin.

 

[Zenge142]

It does start to feel a bit like the april vote as far as timing goes. I really wish people had voted earlier in the cycle.

I also don't love how the vis wagon kind of dissipated without much effort from vis herself. I'm not sure if that's a sign of wolfiness there, or just that the people who were on it didn't really believe in their votes. But I have to look to see who moved.

I think the only person who moved off of vis was Dina who moved onto MKG with us. Otherwise it’s the same wagon.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

You never mentioned her name specifically but you brought up the mayoral vote and having a theory about why it happened which is what I meant about highlighting it. This post below is the one I'm referencing and the bolded part was quoting TME summarizing the vote count and SAR was in the lead with 9.

I was flabbergasted that no-one knew what happened because it was freaking obvious. She was screwed regardless

 

[SportPonies]

I also don't love how the vis wagon kind of dissipated without much effort from vis herself. I'm not sure if that's a sign of wolfiness there, or just that the people who were on it didn't really believe in their votes. But I have to look to see who moved.

hmmm....
Probably not something I would have noticed, if I'm being honest with myself, but that's... interesting.

 

[holdthemayo]

You all are posting faster than I can read. Today was not a day off for me. I'm back around post 1200.

I'm going to read the last couple of pages. Feel free to ping me with questions. I'm trying to catch up.

Does anyone have a handy vote tracker they can post (sorry if you already have)?

 

[WildZoo]

I think the only person who moved off of vis was Dina who moved onto MKG with us. Otherwise it’s the same wagon.

Ah that explains why it felt like the wagons flip flopped. Hmmm. Still feeling not great about dina, but not 100% sure about wolf motive for that move unless it's a bus (or she was leaving a bus).

 

[samac]

With regards to your theory, are you leaning Finn more than AM for the wolf?

With regards to MKG, there’s a lot more than just today to consider.

I would lean finn at this point, but purely because she’s more neutral than AM is to me.

I realize this might be a weird meta, but AM posted less in ggoats which has made me feel better about her. I do think she’s a little softer this game than she usually is though and I don’t know how i feel about that.

 

[Dinashadow]

reason was thinking that there was a wolf from each area, her area has been mostly cleaned out and I felt a little better about AM

but then you unyeeted her and said you were going to find a better reason

 

[mkg323]

With regards to your theory, are you leaning Finn more than AM for the wolf?

With regards to MKG, there’s a lot more than just today to consider.

I really dont know what to say to get you off this vote any more. It hasnt just been today, I've over extended myself for the entire duration of this game. I have tried to stay as active in terms of posting as I have in the past, but because I havent had the same amount of time to keep up to date, actually think and take notes, and engage with other people on the thread that means the content I'm going to post is going to be different. Its just the way things work, I cant have the same quality of posts with half the time and work put into making them

 

[genny]

I was flabbergasted that no-one knew what happened because it was freaking obvious. She was screwed regardless

So if the wolves were royal hunting, why just SAR and not DocE too?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

While it was something anyone paying attention could have guessed at, I do remember you bringing this up and highlighting it on thread before her death? Which wasn’t ideal because I’m guessing if the wolves happened to overlook it, they figured it out after that.

But that being said I have msp leaning village from that interaction with bob, but still need to catch up on a lot of stuff. Yikes, taking yesterday off was a mistake there are so many pages...

Wolves would not have overlooked what happened. No one did. If anything, I'd bet my right hand wolves were the only ones not clueless.

 

[capri1722]

But why though?

And yet you stayed on me.... how is everyone else feel about Capri? Because I’m highly tempted to yeet there

There was a post of yours I didn't like and it was day 1 so it was really all I had to go on.
And don't pretend that I was the swing vote on either your or Visc's yeet vote in that cycle.
It's not like I followed up that quote with a vote on Visc the very next day or anything... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[PippyPony]

Day Two - Keep Calm and WW On - Vote Tally

AM (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (1) - Cray
Bobloblaw (1) - Ms P
Viscernable (3) - cyndia, capri, sunshine
LIS (1) -
Mayo (0) -
Sunshine (2) - LIS, DocE
DocEspana (1) - Mayo
WZ (0) -
Dina (1) - samac
Finn (2) - genny, alley
Ms P (1) - viscernable
MKG (5) - barks, zenge, Dubz, AM, dina
genny (0) -
Bread (1) - mkg
Capri (1) - alissa
Samac (1) - sporty

@mkg323 you are in the lead
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[mkg323]

I think the only person who moved off of vis was Dina who moved onto MKG with us. Otherwise it’s the same wagon.

So all the people who sheeped onto April have now sheeped onto me, got it. great. fantastic.

 

[The_Breadmann]

but then you unyeeted her and said you were going to find a better reason

Sorry, better reason to vote

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

So if the wolves were royal hunting, why just SAR and not DocE too?

That's what I wondered and why I asked if there was a possibility royals were wolves as well. Not liking the fact that he lived when there were three kills.

 

[WildZoo]

There was a post of yours I didn't like and it was day 1 so it was really all I had to go on.
And don't pretend that I was the swing vote on either your or Visc's yeet vote in that cycle.
It's not like I followed up that quote with a vote on Visc the very next day or anything... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Animal Midwife how do you feel

 

[Zenge142]

So all the people who sheeped onto April have now sheeped onto me, got it. great. fantastic.

Other than Dubz literally no one voting for you was on the April wagon...

 

[samac]

That's what I wondered and why I asked if there was a possibility royals were wolves as well. Not liking the fact that he lived when there were three kills.

I don’t know why you think he *has* to be Royal though.

 

[WildZoo]

Maybe I'm a sucker but

Unyeet mkg yeet dina

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife how do you feel

Triggered.

 

[Cyndia]

I was flabbergasted that no-one knew what happened because it was freaking obvious. She was screwed regardless

I remember people maybe hinting that there were a lot of royal votes on the thread that was screwing with it, and so I figured some people took that as a reason why, whereas I felt unless there was a TON of royals, the only other thing that made sense was she was royal herself. I personally was purposefully trying not to highlight it on thread or mention it because there was something in the writeup that hinted royals were possibly village, and I assume others that picked up on it were doing the same. That's why I didn't like seeing you try to highlight it and made note of it, but again, your interactions this day cycle with bob have you leaning village to me.

 

[genny]

That's what I wondered and why I asked if there was a possibility royals were wolves as well. Not liking the fact that he lived when there were three kills.

I thought you were referring to Bob with that comment, since he didn't vote in the election.

 

[WildZoo]

Other than Dubz literally no one voting for you was on the April wagon...

And now it is literally no one!

 

[Stagg737]

Read through pg 37, skipping to 50 to stay UtD

 

[mkg323]

Other than Dubz literally no one voting for you was on the April wagon...

you literally said its the same wagon

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I thought you were referring to Bob with that comment, since he didn't vote in the election.

No.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

You’re still in my neutrals and I don’t really follow his train of thought here, but I do find it interesting that you’re the one person who would meet his criteria for suspicion on Enigma’s death, and are the only one saying Enigma must have been random.

... which brings me to how the heck did Doc E go from it must be a PM partner of enigma (Samac), to rambling about defending Visc despite not even thinking she’s NOT a wolf necessarily, to defending MKG, to reaching a conclusion of a naked vote on me?!

Well, from that perspective, DocE is in trouble. If Visc and MKG are ones he was defending then I am not worried about DocE at this time. Visc and MKG are the lower hanging fruit. If one of those flip wolf, then his ship starts sinking very quickly. Plus, I think his play has proved even more village as time went on. Point being, keep him in neutral, I think yeeting him would be doing wolf's work for them.

 

[Dinashadow]

Maybe I'm a sucker but

Unyeet mkg yeet dina

I see that you're still terrible at reading me

 

[WildZoo]

I see that you're still terrible at reading me

Scuse you, you were in my POE in goats. One of them anyway. I think.

 

[Zenge142]

Maybe I'm a sucker but

Unyeet mkg yeet dina

Dubz. Have I ever led you wrong when you’ve sheeped me?

Look at the way MKG just twisted everything to pretend everyone who was voting for her also misyeeted April.

So all the people who sheeped onto April have now sheeped onto me, got it. great. fantastic.

Other than Dubz literally no one voting for you was on the April wagon...

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I don’t know why you think he *has* to be Royal though.

He mentioned it

 

[PippyPony]

Day Two - Keep Calm and WW On - Vote Tally

AM (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (1) - Cray
Bobloblaw (1) - Ms P
Viscernable (3) - cyndia, capri, sunshine
LIS (1) -
Mayo (0) -
Sunshine (2) - LIS, DocE
DocEspana (1) - Mayo
WZ (0) -
Dina (2) - samac, dubz
Finn (2) - genny, alley
Ms P (1) - viscernable
MKG (4) - barks, zenge, AM, dina
genny (0) -
Bread (1) - mkg
Capri (1) - alissa
Samac (1) - sporty

@mkg323 you are in the lead
20/24 players voting
Voting closes in 45 min

 

[Cyndia]

That's what I wondered and why I asked if there was a possibility royals were wolves as well. Not liking the fact that he lived when there were three kills.

My guess is there is a vet on the wolves that didn't want to kill him off his first game. Or they were testing the theory before taking them both out. Or there were multiple killers/packs and some missed this whole thing.

 

[genny]

I really dont know what to say to get you off this vote any more.

self prez would generally be a good first move.

 

[The_Breadmann]

So all the people who sheeped onto April have now sheeped onto me, got it. great. fantastic.

I think WZ was the only person that was on the April wagon that is on yours and she just jumped off

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz. Have I ever led you wrong when you’ve sheeped me?

Look at the way MKG just twisted everything to pretend everyone who was voting for her also misyeeted April.

Don't say my name zenge, it triggers me even if it's only once instead of 5 times

Also I can't remember what happened the other time I sheeped you besides that genny vote. Was there another time?

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz. Have I ever led you wrong when you’ve sheeped me?

Look at the way MKG just twisted everything to pretend everyone who was voting for her also misyeeted April.

I see it but I just...feel like a wolf would check their facts?? I don't know. Like I said, maybe I'm a sucker.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Wow. The more I try to catch up, the more pages you guys add.

Yeet AM

 

[genny]

Look at the way MKG just twisted everything to pretend everyone who was voting for her also misyeeted April.

That was a genuine misunderstanding of what you said. I actually had to go look at the wagons after your post because it was so damn misleading.

 

[mkg323]

Dubz. Have I ever led you wrong when you’ve sheeped me?

Look at the way MKG just twisted everything to pretend everyone who was voting for her also misyeeted April.

I think the only person who moved off of vis was Dina who moved onto MKG with us. Otherwise it’s the same wagon.

I'm responding to this Z, if its not the same wagon, dont say its the same wagon. dont start pulling BS that I twisted your words.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

MsP being 99% sure I was wolf and pushing it would look bad in retrospect if I got yeet'd. As a wolf it would look bad and they would know what the end result would reveal. Finnick pointed this out fairly well as did others. Although that could be a move to earn favor with both of us. And it would probably not be giving too much away otherwise that most probably already realize.

 

[WildZoo]

That was a genuine misunderstanding of what you said. I actually had to go look at the wagons after your post because it was so damn misleading.

How was it misleading? I had said I needed to look at who moved off vis